If you post video, they will come.
Equip a maxed SP logi with 5 damage mods 10% and see what happens to the tank..........Nothing! By the time you reload, he is fully recharged. Four ways swarms where nerfed:
1. Reload/lock on time
2. Clip size/max amount carried
3. Range
4. Damage
Overkill.

I am a full time A/V, A/S. After I make my deliveries of course. Until my swarm is returned to it's former glory, I will proto stomp until the cows come home.<-----Actually making good profits 600-900k a match. I use to farm wp killing all the installations/vehicles. Now I just farm murdering reds. A savage bloody rampage. Piles of bodies screaming for someone to save them. "I've fallen and cant get up"
If they had just left swarms alone, everything would have balance. I liked the super fast vehicles. I DONT drive tanks.
What CCP did is actually lay off a bunch of employee's right before xmas.
A/S=Anti Sniper

If you post video, they will come.
Equip a maxed SP logi with 5 damage mods 10% and see what happens to the tank..........Nothing! By the time you reload, he is fully recharged. Four ways swarms where nerfed:
1. Reload/lock on time
2. Clip size/max amount carried
3. Range
4. Damage
Overkill.

I am a full time A/V, A/S. After I make my deliveries of course. Until my swarm is returned to it's former glory, I will proto stomp until the cows come home.<-----Actually making good profits 600-900k a match. I use to farm wp killing all the installations/vehicles. Now I just farm murdering reds. A savage bloody rampage. Piles of bodies screaming for someone to save them. "I've fallen and cant get up"
If they had just left swarms alone, everything would have balance. I liked the super fast vehicles. I DONT drive tanks.
What CCP did is actually lay off a bunch of employee's right before xmas.
A/S=Anti Sniper

"Durr, I hit a HAV when its hardeners were up, and it done nothing, plz nerf"

You all just need to adapt, sitting yourself on top of a mountain or tower, with Swarms or Forge Guns wasting ammo into an enemy HAV wont work anymore, unless you're concentrating fire with your squad, or unless, you got him with his hardeners down.

5x Complex Damage mods?



Go biomass yourself.

Tanks are fast.

Swarms are a joke now, and only the worst of the worst tankers are going to let you hit them when their resists are down.

Anyone who thinks swarms are balanced right now and not total garbage should probably just go ahead and uninstall the game

Nevermind that it generally costs far more ISK in a single AV fit than it does half the tanks rolling around, and they have to play perfect where the tank driver can generally just be a noob.

Swarms are balanced for a weapon that doesn't require you to aim.

All you need to do with them is position yourself in a suitable area, and attack at the right time. Thats it, thats all you have to do.

But of course, some idiots cant wrap their heads around this, they still think wasting ammo into a HAV will destroy it.

Swarms are balanced for a weapon that doesn't require you to aim.

All you need to do with them is position yourself in a suitable area, and attack at the right time. Thats it, thats all you have to do.

But of course, some idiots cant wrap their heads around this, they still think wasting ammo into a HAV will destroy it.

I completely and wholeheartedly agree.

What CCP did is actually lay off a bunch of employee's right before xmas.

Are you using said swarm vs a shield tank? Are you attacking when the resists are up? Are you just standing out in the open and expect to kill the tank?

Ps, swarms will NEVER return to their former glory (fire and forget extreme range and extreme damage weapon)

love those mouthbreathing self-appointed experts AV that are tank scrubs in disguise that were whining for months the real good tank drivers shown how awesome a tank can be pre patch and that they could sustain 20s of proto fire from a single person but for some reason those "pros" cant (well we know the reason, hint: lack of skill)

tanks are supposed to be balanced around cooldowns. the downside of having module downtime is simply not there when the tanks speed is that high (oh and btw speed bug is already fixed and as I said millions of time before, the tank speed is still too high even without the nitro bug) thus they can evade your "proper positioning and attack at the right time". beside that a tank with zero SP for 100k isk is better than any proto combat suit that you can field.

if you dont understand this then do not bother to post because your credibility is as much as the amount of skill and SP to drive tanks (hint: it is ZERO)

Who are you?

Have you ever tried tanking in a competitive enviroment, or do you just go around spitting out bullshit with little to none experience as a tanker in PC?



Anything works in Pubs, ****, I've gotten +20 Scores with a PLC + Scout fit in Pubs.

If I tried to take that to PC, I'd be stomped.

If you post video, they will come.
Equip a maxed SP logi with 5 damage mods 10% and see what happens to the tank..........Nothing! By the time you reload, he is fully recharged. Four ways swarms where nerfed:
1. Reload/lock on time
2. Clip size/max amount carried
3. Range
4. Damage
Overkill.

I am a full time A/V, A/S. After I make my deliveries of course. Until my swarm is returned to it's former glory, I will proto stomp until the cows come home.<-----Actually making good profits 600-900k a match. I use to farm wp killing all the installations/vehicles. Now I just farm murdering reds. A savage bloody rampage. Piles of bodies screaming for someone to save them. "I've fallen and cant get up"
If they had just left swarms alone, everything would have balance. I liked the super fast vehicles. I DONT drive tanks.
What CCP did is actually lay off a bunch of employee's right before xmas.
A/S=Anti Sniper

PC is entirely irrelevant when the vast majority of players never touch it, either because they don't want to, or because they like games that play at more than 3 frames per second. You can't just say that because a full squad of officer AV can take out standard tanks, that standard tanks are balanced as is.

Playing PC doesn't magically make people relevant

People who play PC are more relevant than some idiot who plays lolSpambush all day, that cant even wrap his head around the fact that tower camping isn't a viable AV tactic anymore.

No, now the only viable tactic is skilling to proto and running with 3-5 other proto AV

Then we have achieved balance.

It now requires teamwork to take down a TANK.

Congratz CCP.

Then we have achieved balance.

It now requires teamwork to take down a TANK.

Congratz CCP.

Why aren't you working in a squad with other AV and attacking when the hardener is down? If its because vehicles are running to the red line then the red line is the problem, not vehicles.

PC is entirely irrelevant when the vast majority of players never touch it, either because they don't want to, or because they like games that play at more than 3 frames per second. You can't just say that because a full squad of officer AV can take out standard tanks, that standard tanks are balanced as is.

Playing PC doesn't magically make people relevant

cant be bothered to scroll down to see if anyone else has mentione dbut thought it would be worth mentioning
that those employees were laid off from CCP Atlanta who were working on World of Darkness, not DUST.