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BL4CKST4R
warravens
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.12.14 15:51:00 -
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I just noticed that the Rail rifle is extremely similar to the Duvolle tactical rifle before it had its ROF nerfed. Extremely accurate, good at CQC, and high clip; with a scope to boot. Aside from the negligible spool time this weapon is a monster. Although it is similar to the breach the rof feels faster (well it is), and the bullets feel stronger (well they are)
At least this FOTM boat is easy to jump into.
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Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S.
Public Disorder.
515
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Posted - 2013.12.14 16:15:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:I just noticed that the Rail rifle is extremely similar to the Duvolle tactical rifle before it had its ROF nerfed. Extremely accurate, good at CQC, and high clip; with a scope to boot. Aside from the negligible spool time this weapon is a monster. Although it is similar to the breach the rof feels faster (well it is), and the bullets feel stronger (well they are)
At least this FOTM boat is easy to jump into.
o7
Got RRs up to proficiency lvl 3 and I can tell you that they are not all that good up close.They are adequate,but they have quite a bit of recoil (especially the assault variant which has no scope) unlike the Duvolle Tac,which makes hitting targets in CQC quite a task.
Also,the -10% to shields is enough is more of a negative than when the Duvolle Tac was OP.I will admit though,it is hellastrong,but still get's outclassed by the ScR.
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Nitrobeacon
Freek Coalition
Freek Alliance
119
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Posted - 2013.12.14 16:19:00 -
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Butthurt Galente (well we needed one) |
BL4CKST4R
warravens
League of Infamy
1357
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Posted - 2013.12.14 16:20:00 -
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Nitrobeacon wrote:Butthurt Galente (well we needed one)
I use a minmatar suit now  |
BL4CKST4R
warravens
League of Infamy
1357
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Posted - 2013.12.14 16:22:00 -
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Th3rdSun wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:I just noticed that the Rail rifle is extremely similar to the Duvolle tactical rifle before it had its ROF nerfed. Extremely accurate, good at CQC, and high clip; with a scope to boot. Aside from the negligible spool time this weapon is a monster. Although it is similar to the breach the rof feels faster (well it is), and the bullets feel stronger (well they are)
At least this FOTM boat is easy to jump into.
o7 Got RRs up to proficiency lvl 3 and I can tell you that they are not all that good up close.They are adequate,but they have quite a bit of recoil (especially the assault variant which has no scope) unlike the Duvolle Tac,which makes hitting targets in CQC quite a task. Also,the -10% to shields is enough is more of a negative than when the Duvolle Tac was OP.I will admit though,it is hellastrong,but still get's outclassed by the ScR.
Strafing greatly reduces the recoil of the RR. |
Nitrobeacon
Freek Coalition
Freek Alliance
119
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Posted - 2013.12.14 16:32:00 -
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I'd use a Combat Rifle on a Minmatar Dropsuit, looks cooler there. Also, I am pre-empting a bonus to Combat Rifles for the Minmatar Assault. Last time I saw you you were Gallente sorry ^^. The Combat Rifle has insane damage per second by the way try it, about 600 for the advance variant. |
BL4CKST4R
warravens
League of Infamy
1357
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Posted - 2013.12.14 16:33:00 -
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Nitrobeacon wrote:I'd use a Combat Rifle on a Minmatar Dropsuit, looks cooler there. Also, I am pre-empting a bonus to Combat Rifles for the Minmatar Assault. Last time I saw you you were Gallente sorry ^^. The Combat Rifle has insane damage per second by the way try it, about 600 for the advance variant.
I gave up using my Gallente suit, first I was gimped then I became OP and now I am fodder. I use the Combat rifle, I don't use Caldari tech :). I just used a Aurum RR to compare it to the breach. |
crazy space 1
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
2090
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Posted - 2013.12.14 16:50:00 -
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the TAC and burst are placeholder that were suppose to be removed, and now everyone can see why they should be removed |
Evolution-7
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
240
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Posted - 2013.12.14 16:56:00 -
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tactical rail rifle is awful in CQC
Veteran Pilot
"Fight on and fly on to the last drop of blood and the last drop of fuel, to the last beat of the heart."
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Viktor Skirov
Heag Enterprises
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
35
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Posted - 2013.12.14 17:08:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:the TAC and burst are placeholder that were suppose to be removed, and now everyone can see why they should be removed
If that is, why not remove the Assault variants for the other rifles?, Those unnecessary as we already have an Hybrid Assault rifle...
"Sleep with faith, live with honour, and fight with valor. Immortality is both a tool and a curse, use it wisely"
V.Zkt
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Meeko Fent
State Patriots
Templis Dragonaors
1711
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Posted - 2013.12.14 17:11:00 -
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Uhhh, am I the only one who notices the very noticeable recoil in ADS?
DUST is a half decent game.
Be happy its free.
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Smoky Fingers
Red Star.
152
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Posted - 2013.12.14 17:14:00 -
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What OP is trying to say is ,that it's okay to bring back the TacAR from the Uprising of Ye Olde
No one ever pays me in gum :<
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JP Acuna
war-legends elite
50
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Posted - 2013.12.14 17:35:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:Uhhh, am I the only one who notices the very noticeable recoil in ADS?
I love that recoil. Not a huge disadvantage, and visually awesome. |
Obodiah Garro
Tech Guard
RISE of LEGION
449
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Posted - 2013.12.14 17:37:00 -
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RR has terrible recoil though, and its damage at its alledged optimum range is a joke against armor. |
Smoove Zan
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2013.12.14 17:45:00 -
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Someone tell protoman the breach is back  |
Texs Red
DUST University
Ivy League
98
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Posted - 2013.12.14 17:49:00 -
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I do quite well with the RR myself, I recommend the regular version over the assault though. The recoil is a bit lower on the regular RR vs the assault (both hipfire and ADS) so you have to make sure to use distance and the terrain to your advantage and I suggest either carrying a scanner or having an ally who does so you can selectively engage your foes. This also helps when you do get into CQC so you know when an enemy is about to go around a corner and you get begin your spool before they do.
I can win in CQC but I usually need an advantage of some kind, usually getting the drop of them or good strafing, but against a good AR or CR user it really isn't much of a contest.
I find the RR a much more tactical weapon myself as it allows for far more selective engagement and the only tactic is pretty much "run straight at 'em". I am looking at you AR users, although your littered bodies in the open areas between objectives means you might want to reconsider your tactics.
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Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
709
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Posted - 2013.12.14 17:54:00 -
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._.
As a Gallente who armor tanks, lolno RRs aren't invincible. I get up close on someone and they're scared for their life. I really enjoy it because I rip through them with ease by then.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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Meeko Fent
State Patriots
Templis Dragonaors
1713
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Posted - 2013.12.14 18:23:00 -
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JP Acuna wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:Uhhh, am I the only one who notices the very noticeable recoil in ADS? I love that recoil. Not a huge disadvantage, and visually awesome.
At range it sucks big ones though, and for some reason I do ridulously less damage against shields, even though it supposedly does 90 to shields, it seems almost like 70 percent on shields
DUST is a half decent game.
Be happy its free.
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Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S.
Public Disorder.
518
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Posted - 2013.12.14 19:14:00 -
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Hell no you're not!
The other thing I noticed about RRs is that they melt advanced suits and lower,but seem to have just a slight bit of trouble with Protos.Maybe it's lag,maybe it's something else,but I have a harder time melting through their shields,and armor.
Something else that I'm trying to get use to with the RRs is that sweet spot with the range.
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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
Public Disorder.
4159
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Posted - 2013.12.14 19:18:00 -
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RR is good, combat rifle is better, plus in my mimatar logi i look 50 shades of awesome.
Lv 4 forum warrior
Bringer of Bacon
Knight of AMV's
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
417
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Posted - 2013.12.14 19:19:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:the TAC and burst are placeholder that were suppose to be removed, and now everyone can see why they should be removed
Actually, they are not placeholders, they are copies. The Tac is a copy of Amarr tech and the burst is a copy of Matari tech. The Breach is a copy of Caldari tech, so the Assault variants of the other three are copies of Gallente tech.
That is why the Assault Variants of the other three have the same cost (SP and ISK) as the Variant Plasma Rifles.
Names of playstyles
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Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S.
Public Disorder.
518
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Posted - 2013.12.14 19:25:00 -
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gbghg wrote:RR is good, combat rifle is better, plus in my mimatar logi i look 50 shades of awesome.
I don't like the CR one bit.I feel like the RR just outclasses it.CR just doesn't have enough punch against high end dropsuits for me,and the burst on it is terrible for my play style.
RR has some recoil that takes some getting use to,but the range and overall damage just makes it better.
At the end of the day though,to each their own.
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Tectonic Fusion
710
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Posted - 2013.12.14 19:38:00 -
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Viktor Skirov wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:the TAC and burst are placeholder that were suppose to be removed, and now everyone can see why they should be removed If that is, why not remove the Assault variants for the other rifles?, Those are unnecessary as we already have an Hybrid Assault rifle...
They are so you don't have to skill into the Assault Rifle. Honestly the Rail Rifle needs a nerf so it at least doesn't out DPS the AR in its optimal, and less kick so it can be used as a longer ranged weapon. But I guess I suck with it so I need less kick 
Solo Player
Squad status: Locked
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Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core
377
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Posted - 2013.12.14 20:00:00 -
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Not even close to the old tac,the current RR acts more towards the breach ar of old because of it's accarcy and Low rof(except the recoil) compared to the OLD Tac's rof of 700ish. As for it's cqc capabilities it's manageable BUT it gets outdone by other guns in CQC with higher rates of fire(Scr) and most improtant bigger clip size.
A strange game.
The only winning move is
not to play.
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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.14 20:03:00 -
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Th3rdSun wrote:gbghg wrote:RR is good, combat rifle is better, plus in my mimatar logi i look 50 shades of awesome. I don't like the CR one bit.I feel like the RR just outclasses it.CR just doesn't have enough punch against high end dropsuits for me,and the burst on it is terrible for my play style. RR has some recoil that takes some getting use to,but the range and overall damage just makes it better. At the end of the day though,to each their own.
yeah i feel the opposite, i find the burst style works perfectly for me, in fact the only issue i'm having is the lack of hp on my suit, half the time if i'd just had that extra tenth of a second i'd have won the firefight. The CR does have issues at range though, its definitely a close to mid range weapon, while the rail is best at mid-long range. however like you said to each his own.
Lv 4 forum warrior
Bringer of Bacon
Knight of AMV's
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Meeko Fent
State Patriots
Templis Dragonaors
1717
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Posted - 2013.12.14 20:06:00 -
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Th3rdSun wrote:gbghg wrote:RR is good, combat rifle is better, plus in my mimatar logi i look 50 shades of awesome. I don't like the CR one bit.I feel like the RR just outclasses it.CR just doesn't have enough punch against high end dropsuits for me,and the burst on it is terrible for my play style. RR has some recoil that takes some getting use to,but the range and overall damage just makes it better. At the end of the day though,to each their own.
I kinda like both, but I went full on RR because its the first Caldari weapon that isn't extremely niche, so I liked it a ton.
The CR and RR are both good competitors with the original AR IMO.
DUST is a half decent game.
Be happy its free.
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