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I-Shayz-I
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Posted - 2013.12.11 12:55:00 -
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I have only gone positive isk-wise in a few matches since 1.7 deployed. I had 40k, now I'm almost down to 33ish.
It's not like I run expensive suits either. My most expensive one right now costs 51k and I average about 30k per suit. But now it's like I die every other second playing this game. I've even been better about using cover instead of running out in the open, but even still I'm finding myself dying about 7-9 times every match. Just the other day I was only dying about 0-3 times per match.
At this rate I'm going to have to start using free suits until I get some more isk...
It's not just me though is it? I see other players on my team and the enemy team dying just as much or more (The top 3-4 players anyways). Could it be the new weapons? The fact that I'm running armor plates? Me not being used to the game yet?
idk, I honestly don't think any specific weapon is OP or killing faster than I was dying back in 1.6...even though I still get pissed off every time I die by an AR. And I know for a fact that the combat rifle and rail rifle tear through shields fast enough that having more shields wouldn't exactly help much.
I will try profile dampeners later...maybe that is the new thing.
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.12.11 12:59:00 -
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Noticed that too. I died at least twice as much as prior to the patch. |
Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:00:00 -
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I've been in FW, where every PC corp I run into is a slideshow. I know it's not FW itself, since the games without them are as smooth as they were before.
I take it the modes outside of FW have been horrendous?
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KIRSTY j
The Walking Targets
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:02:00 -
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yes same here, it's like my stuff isn't working. going down in a few shots from everything, even in proto suits. |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:09:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:I've been in FW, where every PC corp I run into is a slideshow. I know it's not FW itself, since the games without them are as smooth as they were before.
I take it the modes outside of FW have been horrendous?
Are you implying that PC corps are part of some lag conspiracy?
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Asirius Medaius
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:11:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:I have only gone positive isk-wise in a few matches since 1.7 deployed. I had 40k, now I'm almost down to 33ish.
It's not like I run expensive suits either. My most expensive one right now costs 51k and I average about 30k per suit. But now it's like I die every other second playing this game. I've even been better about using cover instead of running out in the open, but even still I'm finding myself dying about 7-9 times every match. Just the other day I was only dying about 0-3 times per match.
At this rate I'm going to have to start using free suits until I get some more isk...
It's not just me though is it? I see other players on my team and the enemy team dying just as much or more (The top 3-4 players anyways). Could it be the new weapons? The fact that I'm running armor plates? Me not being used to the game yet?
idk, I honestly don't think any specific weapon is OP or killing faster than I was dying back in 1.6...even though I still get pissed off every time I die by an AR. And I know for a fact that the combat rifle and rail rifle tear through shields fast enough that having more shields wouldn't exactly help much.
I will try profile dampeners later...maybe that is the new thing.
1.7 is making me feel like the Duvolle isn't relatively overpowered anymore...
Every time I see a person with one, I just laugh and kill them with 2 shots of my Proto Rail Rifle @ 70 meters.
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Mortedeamor
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
976
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:12:00 -
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im making loads of money running mlt tanks u should try it bro |
knight of 6
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:19:00 -
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I've been thinking it has something to do with aiming but you're right. the best I managed yesterday was 11/1 my average was like 4/9 or some ludicrously low number. i couldn't seem to get my WP count up either so I didn't get paid well.
"God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon
Ko6, scout, tanker.
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Foley Jones
The Exemplars Top Men.
300
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:22:00 -
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I blame the illuminati
They have eyes even in dust......
Got dat Murderboner raging on
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KIRSTY j
The Walking Targets
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:27:00 -
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knight of 6 wrote:I've been thinking it has something to do with aiming but you're right. the best I managed yesterday was 11/1 my average was like 4/9 or some ludicrously low number. i couldn't seem to get my WP count up either so I didn't get paid well. same here. haven't even been able to kill ten people, dieing more than i'm killing right now. |
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ResistanceGTA
Valor Tactical Operations Immortal Coalition of New-Eden
72
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:41:00 -
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I think part of the increased death countage is that so many people are using the new guns. There is a slight learning curve. Getting a feel for them, testing their limits, I know that killed me a couple of times, also the moving of sockets caught me off guard quite a bit.
I still went overall positive, I think I died somewhere between 20-25 times in about the ten games I played yesterday, got more assists than usual, probably cause I'm favoring the RR and had at least 1 guy near me with a Prof. V CR. Did get a nice kill at 170m+ with the RR on a sniper, which was fun. (He had no health left, my buddy was just reloading, so I said 'screw it' and shot). |
Lazy Scumbag
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
72
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:46:00 -
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I think the concept of this game keeps getting further from likeable... why anyone would elect to be a mercenary in New Eden is beyond me. Repetitive death, eventual bankruptcy, and our skills and weapons are repeatedly nerfed. Oh, and Scotty the matchmaker is clueless. Another great patch. |
Acturus Galaxy
Lo-Tech Solutions Ltd
269
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:52:00 -
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The extra range of the rail rifles makes a huge difference including their high damage. I am in a scout suit with 50 meters passive scanner. They are further away and I do not have a chance of reacting once the open fire, not knowing where they are and where to take cover. I am going free BPO suits and will put points into tanks, the environment has become very unhealthy for my scout at the moment. It feels like only 2-4 shots are needed from the proto rail to kill me, I have no way of closing the many open areas without getting spotted and insta killed. A frustrating experience yesterday and it completely changes how I will be playing. |
KIRSTY j
The Walking Targets
19
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:53:00 -
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I've been playing this game for a year now, think this is it for me. time to find a new game i recon |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
779
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:57:00 -
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Foley Jones wrote:I blame the illuminati
They have eyes even in dust......
sounds painful |
NAV HIV
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
582
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:57:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:I have only gone positive isk-wise in a few matches since 1.7 deployed. I had 40k, now I'm almost down to 33ish.
It's not like I run expensive suits either. My most expensive one right now costs 51k and I average about 30k per suit. But now it's like I die every other second playing this game. I've even been better about using cover instead of running out in the open, but even still I'm finding myself dying about 7-9 times every match. Just the other day I was only dying about 0-3 times per match.
At this rate I'm going to have to start using free suits until I get some more isk...
It's not just me though is it? I see other players on my team and the enemy team dying just as much or more (The top 3-4 players anyways). Could it be the new weapons? The fact that I'm running armor plates? Me not being used to the game yet?
idk, I honestly don't think any specific weapon is OP or killing faster than I was dying back in 1.6...even though I still get pissed off every time I die by an AR. And I know for a fact that the combat rifle and rail rifle tear through shields fast enough that having more shields wouldn't exactly help much.
I will try profile dampeners later...maybe that is the new thing.
I'm actually dying less and killing more. Finally i can bring something to those lolLOGI suits. |
Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
829
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:57:00 -
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Oddly enough, I've been doing fairly well soloing in my std Gal scout suit w/ 2x range extenders and a rail rifle. Unless the match is swamped with tanks, I usually get 15+ kills with 0-9 deaths.
(I still want the higher TTK to return though)
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Jarod Garamonde Jr
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
5
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:58:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:I have only gone positive isk-wise in a few matches since 1.7 deployed. I had 40k, now I'm almost down to 33ish.
Um... when you're grinding for ISK and LP.... just use your endless supply of noobsuits. That way you NEVER lose things you paid ISK or AUR for.
Does it really take an EVE player to come up with ideas like this?
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
1454
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Posted - 2013.12.11 14:02:00 -
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KIRSTY j wrote:I've been playing this game for a year now, think this is it for me. time to find a new game i recon
I was kind of their as well honestly, i've already begun phase 3 of my moving on process.
step 1 is stop spending money, step 2 is get bored, step 3 is start playing a new game and having more fun.
only 2 more phases to go before i quit ^^ |
Beeeees
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
329
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Posted - 2013.12.11 14:03:00 -
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Every time a patch hits average engagement range doubles and triples for a while, because people are unsure of how the weapon handling changed. RR benefits from it.
The issue with the update is also that people are unsure of how to use RR and CR or react to them, so more chaos in CQB ensues. Cue more deaths.
The engagement range will go down as people adapt to the changes, in between 3 and 5 days.
Numbers, as always, taken out of my ass. |
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
2186
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Posted - 2013.12.11 14:05:00 -
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PC squads tend to spam equipment and lag out matches. They do this to themselves and then complain. CCP really does need to fix this though since equipment use should be a valid tactic.
Rifle ranges are a fair amount longer now and once people adapt survival will go back up. Honestly, I had a lot more enjoyable matches yesterday including the FW ones. I was only in one redline stomp fest the entire day.
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ROEG X
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
31
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Posted - 2013.12.11 14:08:00 -
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Prototype weapons and dropsuits and advance don't mean anything, this game is like Call of Duty with isk currency. This game shields and armor are more like a gimmick. Nothing I've done protects me or the high powered rifles I use don't seem effective. |
Spaceman-Rob
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
260
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Posted - 2013.12.11 14:13:00 -
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It's really not very realistic to expect only to die 0 to 3 times a match, imagine if every other player died so little, there wouldn't be much killing going on now would there.
I suspect that some of you think because you don the best gear and suits that you should be invisible, it's time you woke up. |
Aria Gomes
Death by Disassociation Zero-Day
204
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Posted - 2013.12.11 15:01:00 -
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Yeah I was getting like 4/12, 5/15, 4/8 and stuff like that. Thank god for uplinks cause I was getting war points left and right. I just want to kill more instead of being killed more. It's just hard to do as a Scout right now, I can't run from everything. |
ROEG X
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
34
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Posted - 2013.12.11 16:03:00 -
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Spaceman-Rob wrote:It's really not very realistic to expect only to die 0 to 3 times a match, imagine if every other player died so little, there wouldn't be much killing going on now would there.
I suspect that some of you think because you don the best gear and suits that you should be invisible, it's time you woke up.
Haha I never wanted to be invisible but I do want the guy trying to kill me to see me in plain sight shoot some powerful lead his way to make him understand he's in for a fight. Which makes his challenge a whole lot of fun if he can best me in a lesser suit because if I'm wearing some militia or basic suits I'm gonna play a whole lot smarter to take a prototype down. It should be balance for lower suits to perform well but not in a sense of where he can kill me just as easy with a lesser suit. This game is based on who has the bigger gun the game wasn't designed for noobs to be on equal terms to a guy who has grind his way to the top. If I wear prototype gear I should feel a sense of power and accomplishment, I should not be scared of some noob in a cheap suit killing my ultimate badass prototype suit just because he was hiding in a corner, that's why I question the modules effectiveness to protect me. |
Grimm Mjolnir
Crusaders Of The Abyss
27
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Posted - 2013.12.11 16:09:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde Jr wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:I have only gone positive isk-wise in a few matches since 1.7 deployed. I had 40k, now I'm almost down to 33ish. Um... when you're grinding for ISK and LP.... just use your endless supply of noobsuits. That way you NEVER lose things you paid ISK or AUR for. Does it really take an EVE player to come up with ideas like this?
You only get standing if you win and if your standing isnt high enough you only get 65 lp its a joke and a Fvckin waste of time |
IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
393
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Posted - 2013.12.11 16:12:00 -
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Because CCP feels the need to change aiming mechanics every patch. You will get used to it, your muscle memory just has to adapt again to the change.
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Imp Smash
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
192
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Posted - 2013.12.13 05:53:00 -
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I've haven't noticed that. I've gone positive using an adv suit and basic rail and basic combat rifles in my new weapon experimentation runs. Every single game. And I am by no means a fps monster. Maybe cause I try to play more tactical and less run into fire? Maybe? |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
1730
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Posted - 2013.12.13 05:54:00 -
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My KDR since patch has dropped from 5.88 to like 5.5 now... Might be due to getting a feel for the new stuff and lol-suiciding with the new LAVs.
In other news though my KDR is bliss with the new RR on a Minnie Assault, damned Minni is actually pretty scary now that it can sport the fasted speed and longest range combo instead of fighting in AR hell...
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Lazy Scumbag
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
79
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Posted - 2013.12.17 02:20:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:KIRSTY j wrote:I've been playing this game for a year now, think this is it for me. time to find a new game i recon I was kind of their as well honestly, i've already begun phase 3 of my moving on process. step 1 is stop spending money, step 2 is get bored, step 3 is start playing a new game and having more fun. only 2 more phases to go before i quit ^^
I have completed this challenge, but pop back in from time to time to see how bad its gotten. |
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