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Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 477	Posted - 2013.12.10 16:47:00 - [1] - Quote I hopped into an ambush a little while ago to check things out and their were 7 tanked on the field!! Holy schitt... For the next 3 ambushes same drill...derships and tanks all over the place. I saw an ADS camping a spawn point - a first for me. I also noticed that the rail rifle is now my bestest friend forever.
Sigberct Amni Goonfeet Top Men. 267	Posted - 2013.12.10 16:49:00 - [2] - Quote cheap vehicles means lots of vehicles. LOTS.
True Adamance Scions of Athra 4727	Posted - 2013.12.10 17:32:00 - [3] - Quote Cheap, moderately useful.....well yeah sure why not use the dream iteration of what we have loved since we started playing. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
chase rowland The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 107	Posted - 2013.12.10 17:39:00 - [4] - Quote Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: I hopped into an ambush a little while ago to check things out and their were 7 tanked on the field!! Holy schitt... For the next 3 ambushes same drill...derships and tanks all over the place. I saw an ADS camping a spawn point - a first for me. I also noticed that the rail rifle is now my bestest friend forever. if they fixed rendering for rails then the only vehicle left would be the big daddy railtank. sht would be balanced real fast
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1248	Posted - 2013.12.10 17:44:00 - [5] - Quote I LOVE CHEAP HAVS AND DS AND LAVS!! It's like a BUFFET FOR ME!! greedy.. shut up! I'm dinning on HAVs!!
Michael Epic The Neutral Zone 161	Posted - 2013.12.10 17:49:00 - [6] - Quote Tanks are no longer a threat lol Al I gotta do is deploy with Boundless, F/45 and Remote explosives and sticky the tank from behind... sticky one, sticky two, sticky three, switch. sticky one, sticky two, sticky three, switch. sticky one, sticky two, sticky three, sticky four, switch. turn around and run like hell....TAP ONE: 1500 HP 1500 HP 1500 HP TAP TWO: 1500 HP 1500 HP 1500 HP TAP THREE: 1500 HP 1500 HP 1500 HP 1500 HP = 15,000HP of damage. waves bye bye tank....you use to really frustrate me but now you are my b!tch. :D
Yagihige Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 447	Posted - 2013.12.10 17:56:00 - [7] - Quote That reminds me of the situations i've been really close to a tank armed with REs. I killed a few plating the explosives on the ground right next to the tank but it should be exceedinlgy easier now that they stick. I guess tanks should pay attention and not let enemies get that close but at the same time they can't really shake off the explosives once they're planted. em ta kool t'nod
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 479	Posted - 2013.12.10 18:55:00 - [8] - Quote Michael Epic wrote: Tanks are no longer a threat lol Al I gotta do is deploy with Boundless, F/45 and Remote explosives and sticky the tank from behind... sticky one, sticky two, sticky three, switch. sticky one, sticky two, sticky three, switch. sticky one, sticky two, sticky three, sticky four, switch. turn around and run like hell....TAP ONE: 1500 HP 1500 HP 1500 HP TAP TWO: 1500 HP 1500 HP 1500 HP TAP THREE: 1500 HP 1500 HP 1500 HP 1500 HP = 15,000HP of damage. waves bye bye tank....you use to really frustrate me but now you are my b!tch. :D Let me know the first time you successfully pull that off.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1190	Posted - 2013.12.10 19:00:00 - [9] - Quote Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: Michael Epic wrote: Tanks are no longer a threat lol Al I gotta do is deploy with Boundless, F/45 and Remote explosives and sticky the tank from behind... sticky one, sticky two, sticky three, switch. sticky one, sticky two, sticky three, switch. sticky one, sticky two, sticky three, sticky four, switch. turn around and run like hell....TAP ONE: 1500 HP 1500 HP 1500 HP TAP TWO: 1500 HP 1500 HP 1500 HP TAP THREE: 1500 HP 1500 HP 1500 HP 1500 HP = 15,000HP of damage. waves bye bye tank....you use to really frustrate me but now you are my b!tch. :D Let me know the first time you successfully pull that off. Any tanker stupid enough to sit there and not hear the remotes arming deserves to die. 2 or 3 remotes before getting out of the blast radius....reasonable. But sitting there and letting them drop 10? If you get a kill like that, all you've managed to do is kill someone who fell asleep in his chair. ADS Reports - Defining Racial Themes
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES 992	Posted - 2013.12.10 19:06:00 - [10] - Quote Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: Michael Epic wrote: Tanks are no longer a threat lol Al I gotta do is deploy with Boundless, F/45 and Remote explosives and sticky the tank from behind... sticky one, sticky two, sticky three, switch. sticky one, sticky two, sticky three, switch. sticky one, sticky two, sticky three, sticky four, switch. turn around and run like hell....TAP ONE: 1500 HP 1500 HP 1500 HP TAP TWO: 1500 HP 1500 HP 1500 HP TAP THREE: 1500 HP 1500 HP 1500 HP 1500 HP = 15,000HP of damage. waves bye bye tank....you use to really frustrate me but now you are my b!tch. :D Let me know the first time you successfully pull that off. lol, you don't know the difference between an AV Specialist and just a guy with a Swarm Launcher do you?

Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 1799	Posted - 2013.12.10 19:06:00 - [11] - Quote Now what I want to know is: Will a Flux grenade set off my remote explosive. & If a Flux grenade will set off my remote explosive, will the Flux damage be applied to the tank before my Explosive damage?
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1453	Posted - 2013.12.10 19:06:00 - [12] - Quote yep their are **** tons of vehciles in every match now, seriously EVERY match.
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES 1395	Posted - 2013.12.10 19:10:00 - [13] - Quote calisk galern wrote: yep their are ** tons of vehciles in every match now, seriously EVERY match. yes and ther is also a ** ton of av whats your point ??? Its gone from suck .....to blow level 1 forum warrior
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1453	Posted - 2013.12.10 19:12:00 - [14] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: calisk galern wrote: yep their are ** tons of vehciles in every match now, seriously EVERY match. yes and ther is also a ** ton of av whats your point ??? I never saw one of those tanks pop except when they were being taken out by other tanks. I saw plenty of useless swarms firing and accomplishing nothing, and a few forge guns accomplishing nothing, but that's it.
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 479	Posted - 2013.12.10 19:12:00 - [15] - Quote 8213 wrote: Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: Michael Epic wrote: Tanks are no longer a threat lol Al I gotta do is deploy with Boundless, F/45 and Remote explosives and sticky the tank from behind... sticky one, sticky two, sticky three, switch. sticky one, sticky two, sticky three, switch. sticky one, sticky two, sticky three, sticky four, switch. turn around and run like hell....TAP ONE: 1500 HP 1500 HP 1500 HP TAP TWO: 1500 HP 1500 HP 1500 HP TAP THREE: 1500 HP 1500 HP 1500 HP 1500 HP = 15,000HP of damage. waves bye bye tank....you use to really frustrate me but now you are my b!tch. :D Let me know the first time you successfully pull that off. lol, you don't know the difference between an AV Specialist and just a guy with a Swarm Launcher do you? I'm aquainted with the concept. I think you are underestimating how the level of team play between infantry and tankers is going to increase. Also, tanks can flat out accelerate and move in ways they couldn't before. I think RE's will be more of a threat by placing them in ambush points and clacking them off after you lure the tank in.
Taeryn Frost Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 134	Posted - 2013.12.10 19:12:00 - [16] - Quote Until half assed AV'ers like myself start specializing in countering tanks, they're going to run amuck for quite a while I imagine. I can't even be mad at the tankers either. Merry Christmas guys~ Honestly I can only think of jeep full of explosives, forge guns, or tanks as reliable counters.
Jammer Jalapeno BIG BAD W0LVES 94	Posted - 2013.12.10 19:13:00 - [17] - Quote calisk galern wrote: yep their are ** tons of vehciles in every match now, seriously EVERY match. OMG really? Like the old days? I can't wait to blow some up!!!! MmMmMm TanKs....delicious TanKs**
Daxxis KANNAH Distinct Covert Initiative 512	Posted - 2013.12.10 19:14:00 - [18] - Quote Tanks and Dropships just need to show up on tacnet CCP you did so much right but havent fixed this yet ???
Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 519	Posted - 2013.12.10 19:15:00 - [19] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Now what I want to know is: Will a Flux grenade set off my remote explosive. & If a Flux grenade will set off my remote explosive, will the Flux damage be applied to the tank before my Explosive damage? Only in FW and PC If you plant remotes on something then flux it, pretty sure the RE damage is applied against the shields, then the flux wipes out the remaining shield. In PC/FW you can flux a turret and blow it up with two REs (planted after the flux), but if you plant the two REs then flux, the turret still stands. You could theoretically plant REs on a shield tank then throw your fluxes so that the REs are outside the flux radius, and it'd probably work.
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 399	Posted - 2013.12.10 19:17:00 - [20] - Quote Michael Epic wrote: Tanks are no longer a threat lol Al I gotta do is deploy with Boundless, F/45 and Remote explosives and sticky the tank from behind... sticky one, sticky two, sticky three, switch. sticky one, sticky two, sticky three, switch. sticky one, sticky two, sticky three, sticky four, switch. turn around and run like hell....TAP ONE: 1500 HP 1500 HP 1500 HP TAP TWO: 1500 HP 1500 HP 1500 HP TAP THREE: 1500 HP 1500 HP 1500 HP 1500 HP = 15,000HP of damage. waves bye bye tank....you use to really frustrate me but now you are my b!tch. :D then the tank backs up and crushes you, instantly biomassing your body as the Remotes fade away If you can read this, it means you are reading. Unless you are skimming

Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 520	Posted - 2013.12.10 19:18:00 - [21] - Quote I think the problem with traditional AV now (swarms/forge) is that it's too slow and weak, allowing the speedy tanks to roll off before you can kill them. Not to mention switching to these puts you at an anti-infantry disadvantage, allowing the tank to recall his vehicle and move in on foot against a weaker enemy. The only reliable way to solo kill tanks are to either plant REs on their backs or spam AV grenades (preferably both).
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 480	Posted - 2013.12.10 19:20:00 - [22] - Quote Sana Rayya wrote: You could theoretically plant REs on a shield tank then throw your fluxes so that the REs are outside the flux radius, and it'd probably work. That would be a pretty nifty 2 or 3 person battle drill. I like it.
lee corwood The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 13	Posted - 2013.12.10 19:23:00 - [23] - Quote According to people's experience so far on the forums, which I take with a grain of salt for now, I'll be throwing out my proto AV swarmer and spending my respec SP on REs. Pure Logi
Taeryn Frost Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 135	Posted - 2013.12.10 19:25:00 - [24] - Quote lee corwood wrote: According to people's experience so far on the forums, which I take with a grain of salt for now, I'll be throwing out my proto AV swarmer and spending my respec SP on REs. Yeah, not sure you can get much mileage out of the proto swarms. Not that I'm complaining about the AV nerf, but I think the pre-nerfed AV damage would work well with tanks as they are now. Their speed and active hardeners make them far more survivable than before.
Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 520	Posted - 2013.12.10 19:30:00 - [25] - Quote Swarms are pretty useless offensively unless you chase down the tank in a LAV, or have two to three swarmers firing in sequence at a tank who got too close. Their lock on distance is now so low that tanks will roll out of your range and laugh at you from afar as their infantry mow you down. Multiple guys with AV grenades, or soloing with REs, are the best ways to take down tanks. Luckily these methods have the least detrimental effect over your anti-infantry effectiveness. Edited to add: You don't need proto REs. Level 1 is fine. Plant three REs, throw three EX-11 AVs, then detonate. I took out a Maddy this way even after he activated hardeners/reppers or whatever it is that makes them glow.
Harpyja DUST University Ivy League 893	Posted - 2013.12.10 19:34:00 - [26] - Quote Do REs go away if the user gets killed? "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 520	Posted - 2013.12.10 19:36:00 - [27] - Quote Nope. The only way for an enemy to get them off would either be to shoot them (risky) or call a new tank and recall the old one. Not sure what happens to them if the vehicle is recalled. Maybe they float? Naturally, if you deploy the REs elsewhere, they will disappear.
Taeryn Frost Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 135	Posted - 2013.12.10 19:40:00 - [28] - Quote Lol, currently in a pub match. My whole team is locked in one of those pyramid type warehouses as 5 tanks on the enemy team circle around like sharks. For some reason the blueberries keep trying to call in vehilces too. Personally, I'm resigned to our fate. A quick and bitter end. Probably a OB since we're all huddled together.
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 1486	Posted - 2013.12.10 19:53:00 - [29] - Quote Tanks are not op lol. Use remote explosives. 1) actually takes skill to do 2) is way more fun than swarms "HP needs no buff, certain weapons need nerf. Or else all other become obsolete." GÿåForum warrior lvl.1Gÿå
Doc Noah Algintal Core Gallente Federation 977	Posted - 2013.12.10 19:54:00 - [30] - Quote Well then, I'll see you guys in BF4.

Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 198	Posted - 2013.12.10 20:02:00 - [31] - Quote Spamming proximity mines will now be a thing. As part of any AV ambush, piles of AV grenades, remote explosive, and proximity mines will become popular. There will be bullets. ACR+SMG


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