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Castor Crave
Orbital Flares
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Posted - 2013.12.10 12:14:00 -
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I just tried out my first FW Match and was thrown out due to friendly fire shortly before it ended. I think it was due to a grenade throw.
I was #1 in WP and kills when that happened, killing and reviving people left and right. The fact that this happened in the first ever match I played is concerning. At least it doesn't seem to be possible to go into negative standing, but waiting a whole days before I can try again is frustrating, especially after not being able to complete a match. And the booster I bought and activated is useless for the time being. I wasn't playing reckless, since I am used to FF in PC matches. Does anyone else have similar experiences?
I'll try Minmatar FW now, being extra careful.
Edit: Nevermind, I am excluded from ALL FW contracts. Suboptimal CCP |
Tiberius Ernaga
State Patriots
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Posted - 2013.12.10 12:17:00 -
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Castor Crave wrote:I just tried out my first FW Match and was thrown out due to friendly fire shortly before it ended. I think it was due to a grenade throw.
I was #1 in WP and kills when that happened, killing and reviving people left and right. The fact that this happened in the first ever match I played is concerning. At least it doesn't seem to be possible to go into negative standing, but waiting a whole days before I can try again is frustrating, especially after not being able to complete a match. And the booster I bought and activated is useless for the time being. Does anyone else have similar experiences?
ur fault
Closed beta vet
State Patriots public - State Patriots - Join for Caldari and Amarr faction warfare
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EternalRMG
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND
Legacy Rising
696
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Posted - 2013.12.10 12:18:00 -
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Flux is the only nade u can use in a FF enviroment
"Fight Togheter; Win Together"
Duster Since: July 2012
Best DropShip Pilot; Soon To be best Jet Fighter Pilot
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Vulpes Dolosus
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
434
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Posted - 2013.12.10 12:19:00 -
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EternalRMG wrote:Flux is the only nade u can use in a FF enviroment
Still, be careful with the damage kick. AV nades are the only safe bet.
Dropship Specialist: AKA Clinically Insane
Kills- Incubus: 3; Pythons: 0; Logistics: 0; Militia: 19; Tanks: 4
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
604
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Posted - 2013.12.10 12:25:00 -
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It's supposed to take either 4 TKs or 5000 team damage, I don't see how you getting kicked constitutes you being careful.
{edit^^^
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bearjew69
FLiCK MY BeaN
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Posted - 2013.12.10 12:27:00 -
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Castor Crave wrote:I just tried out my first FW Match and was thrown out due to friendly fire shortly before it ended. I think it was due to a grenade throw.
I was #1 in WP and kills when that happened, killing and reviving people left and right. The fact that this happened in the first ever match I played is concerning. At least it doesn't seem to be possible to go into negative standing, but waiting a whole days before I can try again is frustrating, especially after not being able to complete a match. And the booster I bought and activated is useless for the time being. I wasn't playing reckless, since I am used to FF in PC matches. Does anyone else have similar experiences?
I'll try Minmatar FW now, being extra careful.
Edit: Nevermind, I am excluded from ALL FW contracts. Suboptimal CCP
That will teach you for spamming grenades u deserve getting kick out!! |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.10 12:28:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:It's supposed to take either 4 TKs or 5000 team damage, I don't see how you getting kicked constitutes you being careful.
{edit^^^
He killed one guy and that guy reported him, hence the kick.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 2
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Castor Crave
Orbital Flares
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Posted - 2013.12.10 12:29:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:It's supposed to take either 4 TKs or 5000 team damage, I don't see how you getting kicked constitutes you being careful.
{edit^^^
I don't know either, since I can't test it anymore. I threw a grenade that didn't kill anyone (I think you also get -50WP for killing a member of your team). It feels off though that after repping and reviving blueberries throughout the match you still get kicked.
Edit: added a question mark to the thread title |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.10 12:30:00 -
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Yeah..... unless it was a weird grenade glitch that somehow netted you 5000 damage, you had been damaging people before. And 5000 friendly damage isn't exactly a small number. That's like killing 5 really well tanked proto suits. I mean, it sucks you cant play for a day but that is the penalty. Hopefully you'll be more careful in the future.
Marston VC, STB Member
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
605
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Posted - 2013.12.10 12:31:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:It's supposed to take either 4 TKs or 5000 team damage, I don't see how you getting kicked constitutes you being careful.
{edit^^^ He killed one guy and that guy reported him, hence the kick.
Doesn't work like that, or at least it's not supposed to.
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
2963
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Posted - 2013.12.10 12:32:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:It's supposed to take either 4 TKs or 5000 team damage, I don't see how you getting kicked constitutes you being careful.
{edit^^^ He killed one guy and that guy reported him, hence the kick. Doesn't work like that, or at least it's not supposed to.
5k damage
4 TKs
1 reported TK.
To my understanding.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 2
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Yagihige
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
433
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Posted - 2013.12.10 12:32:00 -
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I think until you level up a bit in standings you need to be extra careful. I'm probably making fittings just for FW.
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fawkuima juggalo
Eternal Beings
222
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Posted - 2013.12.10 12:32:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:It's supposed to take either 4 TKs or 5000 team damage, I don't see how you getting kicked constitutes you being careful.
{edit^^^ He killed one guy and that guy reported him, hence the kick.
takes more then one.
Dropship auto leveling and THE SOLUTION
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Booker DaFooker
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
177
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Posted - 2013.12.10 12:34:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:It's supposed to take either 4 TKs or 5000 team damage, I don't see how you getting kicked constitutes you being careful.
{edit^^^ He killed one guy and that guy reported him, hence the kick. Doesn't work like that, or at least it's not supposed to.
4 seperate kill reports would be required
Bullshit Baffles Brains
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Castor Crave
Orbital Flares
132
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Posted - 2013.12.10 12:34:00 -
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Yagihige wrote:I think until you level up a bit in standings you need to be extra careful. I'm probably making fittings just for FW.
That might be a good idea. I will do the same tomorrow. |
Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
605
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Posted - 2013.12.10 12:36:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:It's supposed to take either 4 TKs or 5000 team damage, I don't see how you getting kicked constitutes you being careful.
{edit^^^ He killed one guy and that guy reported him, hence the kick. Doesn't work like that, or at least it's not supposed to. 5k damage 4 TKs 1 reported TK. To my understanding.
To my understanding, it is four reported TKs. Why would you even do one reported TK. Who is not going to report a TK. Outside of frinds/corp members.
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Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
935
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Posted - 2013.12.10 12:37:00 -
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Basically having grenades fit in FW will be bad fits... |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
2963
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Posted - 2013.12.10 12:38:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:It's supposed to take either 4 TKs or 5000 team damage, I don't see how you getting kicked constitutes you being careful.
{edit^^^ He killed one guy and that guy reported him, hence the kick. Doesn't work like that, or at least it's not supposed to. 5k damage 4 TKs 1 reported TK. To my understanding. To my understanding, it is four reported TKs. Why would you even do one reported TK. Who is not going to report a TK. Outside of frinds/corp members.
*shrugs*
Just going off what I heard.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 2
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Castor Crave
Orbital Flares
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Posted - 2013.12.10 12:38:00 -
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*takes notes* |
Jason-Anthony Testa
Death Firm.
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Posted - 2013.12.10 12:39:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:It's supposed to take either 4 TKs or 5000 team damage, I don't see how you getting kicked constitutes you being careful.
{edit^^^
also if you read the dev notes if you TK the player you kill votes on whether to punish you or not for the tk so if you kill a corpmate or friend by accident and they vote no you won''t be penalized. and it's 4tks , you still ge tthe damage counted towards the 5k whether the tk is reported or not
A Little Violence Never Hurt Anyone!
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CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.10 12:40:00 -
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Just to clarify it's 4 reported team kills or 5k damage.
CCP FoxFour // Game Designer // Team True Grit
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2013.12.10 12:40:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:Basically having grenades fit in FW will be bad fits...
Just use M8 grenades.
Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
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Castor Crave
Orbital Flares
132
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Posted - 2013.12.10 12:42:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Just to clarify it's 4 reported team kills or 5k damage.
Thanks, must be the latter in my case (or that's what I hope). 5k damage goes for everything? So People, Vehicles, Turrets and Equipment? |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
2964
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Posted - 2013.12.10 12:44:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Just to clarify it's 4 reported team kills or 5k damage.
Thank you sir
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 2
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
1891
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Posted - 2013.12.10 12:44:00 -
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Castor Crave wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Just to clarify it's 4 reported team kills or 5k damage. Thanks, must be the latter in my case (or that's what I hope). 5k damage goes for everything? So People, Vehicles, Turrets and Equipment?
Just people and vehicles.
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
2964
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Posted - 2013.12.10 12:44:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Rasatsu wrote:Basically having grenades fit in FW will be bad fits... Just use M8 grenades.
Or contact nades! \0/
.....no?
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 2
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
605
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Posted - 2013.12.10 12:46:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:Castor Crave wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Just to clarify it's 4 reported team kills or 5k damage. Thanks, must be the latter in my case (or that's what I hope). 5k damage goes for everything? So People, Vehicles, Turrets and Equipment? Just people and vehicles.
Is that confirmed? Because that would really suck if it was turrets and equipment too.
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
605
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Posted - 2013.12.10 12:53:00 -
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I would lol at people trying to kill me around the base of an enemy turret/CRU right before I watch them vanish like a fart in the wind.
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CCP Nullarbor
C C P
C C P Alliance
3206
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Posted - 2013.12.10 12:54:00 -
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Not turrets, but yes equipment and vehicles.
CCP Nullarbor // Exotic Dancer // Team True Grit
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BMSTUBBY
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
452
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Posted - 2013.12.10 12:58:00 -
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Oh the QQ! 
Meh, F2P Lobby Shooter.
Working as intended.
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Castor Crave
Orbital Flares
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Posted - 2013.12.10 12:58:00 -
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BMSTUBBY wrote:Oh the QQ!
Haven't seen any QQ yet ;) |
DiGreatDestroyer
Grupo de Asalto Chacal
RISE of LEGION
44
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Posted - 2013.12.10 13:01:00 -
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Castor Crave wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Just to clarify it's 4 reported team kills or 5k damage. Thanks, must be the latter in my case (or that's what I hope). 5k damage goes for everything? So People, Vehicles, Turrets and Equipment?
Everything but installations |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1791
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Posted - 2013.12.10 13:05:00 -
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Castor Crave wrote:BMSTUBBY wrote:Oh the QQ! Haven't seen any QQ yet ;)
Agreed. You have kept this thread on track and constructive, which is probably why it got Blue tags. |
BMSTUBBY
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
453
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Posted - 2013.12.10 13:11:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:Castor Crave wrote:BMSTUBBY wrote:Oh the QQ! Haven't seen any QQ yet ;) Agreed. You have kept this thread on track and constructive, which is probably why it got Blue tags.
Constructive QQ is still QQ.
There has been no less than 500 threads about FW FF since it was announced.
So yeah QQ. 
Meh, F2P Lobby Shooter.
Working as intended.
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Kaltos Darksbane
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND
Legacy Rising
123
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Posted - 2013.12.10 13:12:00 -
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So if I TK someone and they refuse to report it does the damage still get counted towards the 5k to be kicked?
Dust 514?...............More like Dust 5150.
I support SP rollover!
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BMSTUBBY
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
453
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Posted - 2013.12.10 13:13:00 -
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Kaltos Darksbane wrote:So if I TK someone and they refuse to report it does the damage still get counted towards the 5k to be kicked?
Yes
Meh, F2P Lobby Shooter.
Working as intended.
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Castor Crave
Orbital Flares
143
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Posted - 2013.12.10 13:13:00 -
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BMSTUBBY wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:Castor Crave wrote:BMSTUBBY wrote:Oh the QQ! Haven't seen any QQ yet ;) Agreed. You have kept this thread on track and constructive, which is probably why it got Blue tags. Constructive QQ is still QQ. There has been no less than 500 threads about FW FF since it was announced. So yeah QQ.
Ya right 
Kaltos Darksbane wrote:So if I TK someone and they refuse to report it does the damage still get counted towards the 5k to be kicked?
It seems like that. |
Ryme Intrinseca
The Rainbow Effect
328
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Posted - 2013.12.10 13:15:00 -
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EternalRMG wrote:Flux is the only nade u can use in a FF enviroment
Yeah, no one uses core locus in PC  |
Castor Crave
Orbital Flares
143
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Posted - 2013.12.10 13:17:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:EternalRMG wrote:Flux is the only nade u can use in a FF enviroment Yeah, no one uses core locus in PC
I'd expect shield damage still being counted towards the 5k limit. And seeing how equipment has up to 400 hp and some shield tanked suits even more than that... :s |
steadyhand amarr
Scions of Athra
2069
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Posted - 2013.12.10 13:18:00 -
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Welcome to the world of FF need to be careful with nades sounds like u damage quite a lot of blues so its working as intented spaming nades is a nono now :-)
"i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk"
winner of EU squad cup
GOGO power rangers
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Robert JD Niewiadomski
NULLIMPEX INC
724
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Posted - 2013.12.10 13:27:00 -
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What about ppl who intentionaly run into line of fire or into blast area and then "punish" me for TK? Is there any possibility for CCP to judge it from battle server match logs?
F.E.A.R. stands for False Expectations Assumed Real
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BMSTUBBY
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
453
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Posted - 2013.12.10 13:30:00 -
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Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote:What about ppl who intentionaly run into line of fire or into blast area and then "punish" me for TK? Is there any possibility for CCP to judge it from battle server match logs?
No.
Meh, F2P Lobby Shooter.
Working as intended.
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Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
1641
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Posted - 2013.12.10 13:30:00 -
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Quote:Watch that s**t, Cowboy!
Greedy Bastards' Hate Lord
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game
611
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Posted - 2013.12.10 13:37:00 -
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just remember 1 friendly equip is on average 400ehp.. accidently take out your own teams nest when its been overrun can be the end of your game. i suppose that would lower grenade and equipment spam in this game so maybe not a bad thing but something to considder
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
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NAV HIV
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
578
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Posted - 2013.12.10 13:43:00 -
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Castor Crave wrote:I just tried out my first FW Match and was thrown out due to friendly fire shortly before it ended. I think it was due to a grenade throw. I was #1 in WP and kills when that happened, killing and reviving people left and right. The fact that this happened in the first ever match I played is concerning. At least it doesn't seem to be possible to go into negative standing, but waiting a whole days before I can try again is frustrating, especially after not being able to complete a match. And the booster I bought and activated is useless for the time being. I wasn't playing reckless, since I am used to FF in PC matches. Does anyone else have similar experiences? I'll try Minmatar FW now, being extra careful. Edit: Nevermind, I am excluded from ALL FW contracts. Ewwwww 
Welcome to proper gameplay?! |
smartlayer
What The French
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Posted - 2013.12.10 13:45:00 -
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if you run in front of a tank or a vehicle i bet that if he damage or kill you that count as a kill and for your grief damage total ?
If you get TK does the grief get one kill and damage stacking or only the kill ?
if you TK 22 guy but nobody report you you Dont get kicked ?
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Get Weird
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
0
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Posted - 2013.12.10 13:55:00 -
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Yep, looks like if you're going to use Flux OR Mass Drivers in FW you're going to have to be really careful where you spam your shots. |
Rogue Saint
Science For Death
609
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Posted - 2013.12.10 13:58:00 -
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Castor Crave wrote:I just tried out my first FW Match and was thrown out due to friendly fire shortly before it ended. I think it was due to a grenade throw. I was #1 in WP and kills when that happened, killing and reviving people left and right. The fact that this happened in the first ever match I played is concerning. At least it doesn't seem to be possible to go into negative standing, but waiting a whole days before I can try again is frustrating, especially after not being able to complete a match. And the booster I bought and activated is useless for the time being. I wasn't playing reckless, since I am used to FF in PC matches. Does anyone else have similar experiences? I'll try Minmatar FW now, being extra careful. Edit: Nevermind, I am excluded from ALL FW contracts. Ewwwww
I lol'd 
GôêGÆ+GÆ+GƦ - Bringing the dakka
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Preacher Death 2
Lockheed Dynamics
64
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Posted - 2013.12.10 14:00:00 -
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I think your just unlucky. I went on a 3-4 team kill spree after they failed to watch my back while trying to cap a point on my second match. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
3432
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Posted - 2013.12.10 14:01:00 -
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not Harsh enough. Watch the damn fire blues.m |
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CELESTA AUNGM
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
56
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Posted - 2013.12.10 14:07:00 -
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Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote:What about ppl who intentionaly run into line of fire or into blast area and then "punish" me for TK? Is there any possibility for CCP to judge it from battle server match logs?
...This is a subject of Dust 514 that I am very interested in following. For some or us it's been 7 months (for some nearly three years) with an FPS that's Friendly Fire DISABLED... That's a LONG time, and in a game like Dust 514 that is MORE TEAM-based and COOP-encouraging than any I've played, that equates to a LOT of damaging reflex-habit that has to be erased from our behavior on the battlefield.
It's not going to be easy.
And I'm not sure any amount of discrete blue-on-blue tracking from the devs is going to help us with this. WE have to help each other.
CHECK your fire!! Don't blame the stupid blueberry for crossing over your line of fire---because half the time he's not a stupid blueberry, he's the experienced vet who was leading your squad and owning the map last week (but that was when friendly fire was disabled, so he didn't have to THINK before he moved).
CHECK you movements!! Don't blame your buddy for squashing you with is LAV, or tearing open the back of your dropsuit, and don't be so eager to report him to the devs. The devs will take your word for it that it was ALL HIS mistake, when in reality YOU DIDN'T THINK before you moved. NOW, in FW, you have to think it out more (quickly before you're shot of course).
INCREASE buddy-communication! MIC is best (I know, it's "yuck" for a lot of us), or some kind of visual sign language to get your buddies to understand --"Grenade goin' in!" "Clear out--I'm calling down a Strike" or "Stay away from him so we can get a clear shot".
USE that "Forgive" button as much as possible. Hey, we've got to give each other a break for accidental friendly fire in the first two weeks or so---this is a new adjustment period for so many of us. Yes, I know she was a careless klutz in that last match, but if she's your team-buddy, cut her some slack and let the incident go. Otherwise you won't have much of a team left to finish the day with.
Steadyhand amarr's statement is correct. With the new FW, one of the toughest FPS games to deal with, has just gotten even tougher. Don't SPAM any weapons anymore.
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
46
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Posted - 2013.12.10 14:08:00 -
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In PC i have only team killed once so how is this so hard for you guys
The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
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Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
Public Disorder.
1340
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Posted - 2013.12.10 14:17:00 -
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We all have to retrain our reflexes lol
I played 6 FW games, essentially with randoms, did join one squad of AE but most matches were randoms. And things were actually pretty good, died to one FF incident while charging forward, was as much my fault as his. Tagged a few friendlies without killing them and was tagged a few times but nothing serious. Given that the teams were random i was expecting far worse, tbh.
As SOP i'm not forgiving any FF kills, and i'm hoping nobody is forgiving my kills - the harder we are on each other the quicker we'll retrain those explosive-spamming reflexes.
Now that we have FF FW i'm feeling absolutely no incentive to go back to pub match skirmish. It's funny how quickly things can change.
I support SP rollover.
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Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
473
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Posted - 2013.12.10 15:02:00 -
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It's rapidly become apparent that SP spent in grenades level IV And V are SP best spent elsewhere. Oh well.
However....
I also saw a nasty way of WP whoring...a guy was shooting other guys uplinks and putting his own down. I actually don't mind getting whacked by a mistake particular this early in the new system snd honestly I don't mind straight up griefing that much (after the fact) but that's just plain old dueche bag stuff. It's selfish and makes me wish we could have team kick vote or something like that.
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Ghermard-ol Dizeriois
Maphia Clan Corporation
18
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Posted - 2013.12.10 15:20:00 -
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Good to know that FF on turrets won't lead to FW kick, yet the turret I was in got attacked by a teamate who used another turret nearby just to prevent me from getting WP.
If you're an hacker, a cheater o a glitcher, you deserve death. In real life.
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Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
477
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Posted - 2013.12.10 15:38:00 -
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I think that TK will be less a problem after the first week or two. I also think that WP ganking tactics will start to increase....which may lead to more TK if I see another dude whip out his SMG and kill my uplink and put one down. |
pseudosnipre
383
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Posted - 2013.12.10 15:50:00 -
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Glad to see its super harsh, fewer griefers and tools persisting in my matches. =)
Solutions:
1. Don't TK
2. Queue synch with corpies sympathetic to your ineptitude
Today is the sort of day where the sun only comes up to humiliate you.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.12.10 16:08:00 -
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I'm enjoying this morning already. Love these kind of threads.
OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
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Zeke Zero
Circus of midnight
7
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Posted - 2013.12.10 16:23:00 -
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I tried orbital strike earliest, received a penalty of 24 hours imprisonment is kick earliest.
I doubt attack on the facility is not in a penalty target.
Either way, it should be set up with care penalty. |
CLONE117
planetary retaliation organisation
499
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Posted - 2013.12.10 16:31:00 -
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dark days are ahead.
only way to avoid them is to do one thing and one thing only...
STOP WASTING AMMO ON YOUR OWN TEAM MEMBERS.
unless there afking or not doing anything in the redline then i guess dats ok. |
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Onesimus Tarsus
702
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Posted - 2013.12.10 16:37:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Just to clarify it's 4 reported team kills or 5k damage.
Except on odd-numbered Thursdays if "i" is before "e" with a left-handed monkey wrench during the Spanish Inquisition while you file jointly in the absence of a flush-mounted plexiglas guard.
Big red button that respecs your SP on demand.
Protos only get points from killing protos.
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Jadd Hatchen
Psygod9
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
211
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Posted - 2013.12.10 16:41:00 -
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Castor Crave wrote:I just tried out my first FW Match and was thrown out due to friendly fire shortly before it ended. I think it was due to a grenade throw.
Did you say over team comms, "Frag out!" or some other similar warning? Did you try to take care that the area you intended for the grenade was clear of friendlies before throwing? Honestly, usage of area affect weapons (plasma cannon, mass driver, grenades, missiles, rockets, orbital strikes, etc.) will all now need to be carefully used in FW instead of carefree'ly used as they have been. No more firing downrange when a blue is in the line of fire, like so often happens in FPS matches. It's a whole new game now and that's why PC was always so difficult for people new to PC matches. Now they can at least have an environment that is near to what a PC is like and not get such a "rude awakening" when/if they ever make the switch.
This change also cuts down on grenade spamming and orbital spamming, two things that people were complaining about in the forums. Overall it's a good change and takes the game into a more tactical direction.
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
432
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:19:00 -
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Tiberius Ernaga wrote:Castor Crave wrote:I just tried out my first FW Match and was thrown out due to friendly fire shortly before it ended. I think it was due to a grenade throw.
I was #1 in WP and kills when that happened, killing and reviving people left and right. The fact that this happened in the first ever match I played is concerning. At least it doesn't seem to be possible to go into negative standing, but waiting a whole days before I can try again is frustrating, especially after not being able to complete a match. And the booster I bought and activated is useless for the time being. Does anyone else have similar experiences? ur fault
Learn you're spellings then you can comment.
Assassination is my thing.
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
4105
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:28:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:Tiberius Ernaga wrote:Castor Crave wrote:I just tried out my first FW Match and was thrown out due to friendly fire shortly before it ended. I think it was due to a grenade throw.
I was #1 in WP and kills when that happened, killing and reviving people left and right. The fact that this happened in the first ever match I played is concerning. At least it doesn't seem to be possible to go into negative standing, but waiting a whole days before I can try again is frustrating, especially after not being able to complete a match. And the booster I bought and activated is useless for the time being. Does anyone else have similar experiences? ur fault Learn you're spellings then you can comment.
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
4107
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:30:00 -
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smartlayer wrote:if you run in front of a tank or a vehicle i bet that if he damage or kill you that count as a kill and for your grief damage total ?
If you get TK does the grief get one kill and damage stacking or only the kill ?
if you TK 22 guy but nobody report you you Dont get kicked ?
All TKs, whether reported or not, count towards your damage total. So do hits you land that DON'T kill the teammate you're firing at. If you manage to kill 22 guys while dealing less than 5000 points of damage, and none of them report you... well, good luck with that.
What I want to know is whether overkill damage counts. If a guy has literally 2HP left, and you hit him with a Forge Gun and deal over 1000 damage to his almost-corpse, will it count the 2 damage he had remaining, or the full force of the hit? |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
1631
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:31:00 -
[66] - Quote
That must have been one hell of a grenade throw. O_o
Closed Beta Vet
Reading the forums detracts from overall enjoyment of the game
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Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
1641
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:37:00 -
[67] - Quote
MEDIC!!
Greedy Bastards' Hate Lord
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
4109
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:43:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:That must have been one hell of a grenade throw. O_o
GRENADE! Don't worry, Timmy, I'LL SAVE YOU! *whole team jumps on grenade, dies, and reports for TK*
It's ok, though. Timmy the kitten survived. |
Skihids
Unkn0wn Killers
Renegade Alliance
2491
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:43:00 -
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Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:It's rapidly become apparent that SP spent in grenades level IV And V are SP best spent elsewhere. Oh well.
However....
I also saw a nasty way of WP whoring...a guy was shooting other guys uplinks and putting his own down. I actually don't mind getting whacked by a mistake particular this early in the new system snd honestly I don't mind straight up griefing that much (after the fact) but that's just plain old dueche bag stuff. It's selfish and makes me wish we could have team kick vote or something like that.
Equipment counts against your damage total and averages around 400hp, so don't pop too many or you'll get kicked. |
Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
1642
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Posted - 2013.12.11 02:30:00 -
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I was killed in my LAV by a tank and got kicked out!
Greedy Bastards' Hate Lord
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Onesimus Tarsus
709
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Posted - 2013.12.11 02:52:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:Tiberius Ernaga wrote:Castor Crave wrote:I just tried out my first FW Match and was thrown out due to friendly fire shortly before it ended. I think it was due to a grenade throw.
I was #1 in WP and kills when that happened, killing and reviving people left and right. The fact that this happened in the first ever match I played is concerning. At least it doesn't seem to be possible to go into negative standing, but waiting a whole days before I can try again is frustrating, especially after not being able to complete a match. And the booster I bought and activated is useless for the time being. Does anyone else have similar experiences? ur fault Learn you're spellings then you can comment.
Learn your spelling.
Big red button that respecs your SP on demand.
Protos only get points from killing protos.
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
1979
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Posted - 2013.12.11 02:54:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Rasatsu wrote:Basically having grenades fit in FW will be bad fits... Just use M8 grenades.
Officer Grenades in FW?? No thanks!
When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE!
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Castor Crave
Orbital Flares
163
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Posted - 2013.12.11 06:58:00 -
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It appears that you also get kicked for damaging your own vehicles. |
KayDidYue
Mercenaries On Duty
18
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Posted - 2013.12.11 07:12:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:dark days are ahead.
only way to avoid them is to do one thing and one thing only...
STOP WASTING AMMO ON YOUR OWN TEAM MEMBERS.
unless there afking or not doing anything in the redline then i guess dats ok.
Who is the one deciding on someone in RL not doing something? You never had someone on the hill sniping, and watching your back, where they aren't shooting much because they are overlooking their team?
TKing is not cool at anytime, but I can allow for accidents.
Male or female, noob or pro, my SR is steady, and my trigger ready.
Walk or run, if you're in my scope, you will die!
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Shion Typhon
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
325
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Posted - 2013.12.11 09:04:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Not turrets, but yes equipment and vehicles.
That is ******** beyond all comprehension. So all I need to do is stand on the enemy's droplinks and they can't throw grenades at me for fear of a FF kick? Did you think this one through? |
NAV HIV
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
585
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Posted - 2013.12.11 15:09:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Just to clarify it's 4 reported team kills or 5k damage.
Please make it a bit more strict. I'm getting tired of all these Blue berries walking right into my line of fire trying to steal a kill or just being blue dots. I have stopped touching grenades, stopped using MD in FW, cause they will just not learn. Friendly Fire has been a great addition. Props for that. We need it to be more strict, so that most of the players learn how to shoot and not just spray and pray. That OB penalty however is something to look at. |
spoony moon
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
29
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Posted - 2013.12.11 15:11:00 -
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Anarchide wrote:I was killed in my LAV by a tank and got kicked out!
feature |
Jakar Umbra
Altyr Initiative
439
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Posted - 2013.12.11 15:13:00 -
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So... dropped an orbital in FW just now, didn't hit anything, got one destroyed equipment and got kicked. Asked the Cap to check his killmail, didn't hit a damn thing. CCP mind telling me what the hell randomly takes 5000 points of damage that is not there!
Author of Umbra's Short Stories. Last story posted 11/25/2013.
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Gyn Wallace
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
16
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Posted - 2013.12.11 15:30:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Just to clarify it's 4 reported team kills or 5k damage.
I was kicked from my first FW match for blowing up a neutral, unhacked blaster installation. There were no blue chevrons nearby who could have been hacking it.
I've heard of people being kicked for causing damage to their own tank in collisions. The idea for the damage limit is good, but the implementation is still rough.
Damage to your own equipment must not count against the limit. Hackable, destructable elements need a short "friendly fire" immunity timer, or the friendly fire destruction limit needs to be raised above the value of any single asset.
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Piercing Serenity
Fatal Absolution
457
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Posted - 2013.12.11 15:45:00 -
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EternalRMG wrote:Flux is the only nade u can use in a FF enviroment
Absolutely do not do this
I got kicked from FW yesterday after throwing a flux nade at some red dots. My blue dots were caught in the blast, and with fluxes doing 1200+ damage, I was instantly kicked
DUST 514 BETA VET
16.2M Lifetime SP
SH4T --> PFBHz --> PFB --> SH4T --> Fatal
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Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
1643
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Posted - 2013.12.11 15:59:00 -
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At the same time, an enemy tank triggered my proximity mines; what may have happened is that the triggered mines damaged the unexploded ones, thus kicking me for FF. This is ridiculous.
Speaking of ridiculous; I saw tanks going faster than LAVs! I also saw tanks covering 75m doing a wheelie...
Greedy Bastards' Hate Lord
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Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
1643
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Posted - 2013.12.11 16:03:00 -
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In the days of Past, you could tell the difference between HAVs and LAVs on the map by their speed.
Now, you look at the map and go: "WTF is that?! Have they ninja-implemented Jet Fighters?!"
Greedy Bastards' Hate Lord
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Nirwanda Vaughns
Molon Labe.
243
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Posted - 2013.12.11 16:16:00 -
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yeah couple guys on in my corp experienced same thing. either threw a nade at bunch of red dots and some over confident bluedot decides to run in with a scram rifle and kill em and gets the brunt of the nade, last night one th eguys had some mines down on the bridge map and a friendly tank just game barrelling in with some kinda hero complex, obv not looking where he was oging and just disintegrated when he drove through a field of 15 prox mines.
it is a bit disheartening when something isn't your fault and i think there are some wepaons that should perhaps be excempt from FF. mainly, nades andprox/remote explosives. basically the ones where you don't have much control over the outcome. if a bluedot comes upto a point and shoots your remotes by accident and blows himself up then its purely down to their stupidity yet you're punished for it.
i think FF is a great mechanic in FW but i think some adjustments need to be made... also perhaps being crushed by DS too. i had a bluedot jump too early and got crushed and i got a warning |
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