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Onesimus Tarsus
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Posted - 2013.12.10 16:37:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Just to clarify it's 4 reported team kills or 5k damage.
Except on odd-numbered Thursdays if "i" is before "e" with a left-handed monkey wrench during the Spanish Inquisition while you file jointly in the absence of a flush-mounted plexiglas guard.
Big red button that respecs your SP on demand.
Protos only get points from killing protos.
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Jadd Hatchen
Psygod9
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
211
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Posted - 2013.12.10 16:41:00 -
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Castor Crave wrote:I just tried out my first FW Match and was thrown out due to friendly fire shortly before it ended. I think it was due to a grenade throw.
Did you say over team comms, "Frag out!" or some other similar warning? Did you try to take care that the area you intended for the grenade was clear of friendlies before throwing? Honestly, usage of area affect weapons (plasma cannon, mass driver, grenades, missiles, rockets, orbital strikes, etc.) will all now need to be carefully used in FW instead of carefree'ly used as they have been. No more firing downrange when a blue is in the line of fire, like so often happens in FPS matches. It's a whole new game now and that's why PC was always so difficult for people new to PC matches. Now they can at least have an environment that is near to what a PC is like and not get such a "rude awakening" when/if they ever make the switch.
This change also cuts down on grenade spamming and orbital spamming, two things that people were complaining about in the forums. Overall it's a good change and takes the game into a more tactical direction.
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
432
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:19:00 -
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Tiberius Ernaga wrote:Castor Crave wrote:I just tried out my first FW Match and was thrown out due to friendly fire shortly before it ended. I think it was due to a grenade throw.
I was #1 in WP and kills when that happened, killing and reviving people left and right. The fact that this happened in the first ever match I played is concerning. At least it doesn't seem to be possible to go into negative standing, but waiting a whole days before I can try again is frustrating, especially after not being able to complete a match. And the booster I bought and activated is useless for the time being. Does anyone else have similar experiences? ur fault
Learn you're spellings then you can comment.
Assassination is my thing.
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
4105
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:28:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:Tiberius Ernaga wrote:Castor Crave wrote:I just tried out my first FW Match and was thrown out due to friendly fire shortly before it ended. I think it was due to a grenade throw.
I was #1 in WP and kills when that happened, killing and reviving people left and right. The fact that this happened in the first ever match I played is concerning. At least it doesn't seem to be possible to go into negative standing, but waiting a whole days before I can try again is frustrating, especially after not being able to complete a match. And the booster I bought and activated is useless for the time being. Does anyone else have similar experiences? ur fault Learn you're spellings then you can comment.
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
4107
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:30:00 -
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smartlayer wrote:if you run in front of a tank or a vehicle i bet that if he damage or kill you that count as a kill and for your grief damage total ?
If you get TK does the grief get one kill and damage stacking or only the kill ?
if you TK 22 guy but nobody report you you Dont get kicked ?
All TKs, whether reported or not, count towards your damage total. So do hits you land that DON'T kill the teammate you're firing at. If you manage to kill 22 guys while dealing less than 5000 points of damage, and none of them report you... well, good luck with that.
What I want to know is whether overkill damage counts. If a guy has literally 2HP left, and you hit him with a Forge Gun and deal over 1000 damage to his almost-corpse, will it count the 2 damage he had remaining, or the full force of the hit? |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
1631
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:31:00 -
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That must have been one hell of a grenade throw. O_o
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Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:37:00 -
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MEDIC!!
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
4109
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:43:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:That must have been one hell of a grenade throw. O_o
GRENADE! Don't worry, Timmy, I'LL SAVE YOU! *whole team jumps on grenade, dies, and reports for TK*
It's ok, though. Timmy the kitten survived. |
Skihids
Unkn0wn Killers
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:43:00 -
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Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:It's rapidly become apparent that SP spent in grenades level IV And V are SP best spent elsewhere. Oh well.
However....
I also saw a nasty way of WP whoring...a guy was shooting other guys uplinks and putting his own down. I actually don't mind getting whacked by a mistake particular this early in the new system snd honestly I don't mind straight up griefing that much (after the fact) but that's just plain old dueche bag stuff. It's selfish and makes me wish we could have team kick vote or something like that.
Equipment counts against your damage total and averages around 400hp, so don't pop too many or you'll get kicked. |
Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
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Posted - 2013.12.11 02:30:00 -
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I was killed in my LAV by a tank and got kicked out! 
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Onesimus Tarsus
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Posted - 2013.12.11 02:52:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:Tiberius Ernaga wrote:Castor Crave wrote:I just tried out my first FW Match and was thrown out due to friendly fire shortly before it ended. I think it was due to a grenade throw.
I was #1 in WP and kills when that happened, killing and reviving people left and right. The fact that this happened in the first ever match I played is concerning. At least it doesn't seem to be possible to go into negative standing, but waiting a whole days before I can try again is frustrating, especially after not being able to complete a match. And the booster I bought and activated is useless for the time being. Does anyone else have similar experiences? ur fault Learn you're spellings then you can comment.
Learn your spelling.
Big red button that respecs your SP on demand.
Protos only get points from killing protos.
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
1979
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Posted - 2013.12.11 02:54:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Rasatsu wrote:Basically having grenades fit in FW will be bad fits... Just use M8 grenades.
Officer Grenades in FW?? No thanks!
When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE!
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Castor Crave
Orbital Flares
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Posted - 2013.12.11 06:58:00 -
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It appears that you also get kicked for damaging your own vehicles. |
KayDidYue
Mercenaries On Duty
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Posted - 2013.12.11 07:12:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:dark days are ahead.
only way to avoid them is to do one thing and one thing only...
STOP WASTING AMMO ON YOUR OWN TEAM MEMBERS.
unless there afking or not doing anything in the redline then i guess dats ok.
Who is the one deciding on someone in RL not doing something? You never had someone on the hill sniping, and watching your back, where they aren't shooting much because they are overlooking their team?
TKing is not cool at anytime, but I can allow for accidents.
Male or female, noob or pro, my SR is steady, and my trigger ready.
Walk or run, if you're in my scope, you will die!
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Shion Typhon
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.12.11 09:04:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Not turrets, but yes equipment and vehicles.
That is ******** beyond all comprehension. So all I need to do is stand on the enemy's droplinks and they can't throw grenades at me for fear of a FF kick? Did you think this one through? |
NAV HIV
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
585
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Posted - 2013.12.11 15:09:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Just to clarify it's 4 reported team kills or 5k damage.
Please make it a bit more strict. I'm getting tired of all these Blue berries walking right into my line of fire trying to steal a kill or just being blue dots. I have stopped touching grenades, stopped using MD in FW, cause they will just not learn. Friendly Fire has been a great addition. Props for that. We need it to be more strict, so that most of the players learn how to shoot and not just spray and pray. That OB penalty however is something to look at. |
spoony moon
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.12.11 15:11:00 -
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Anarchide wrote:I was killed in my LAV by a tank and got kicked out!
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Jakar Umbra
Altyr Initiative
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Posted - 2013.12.11 15:13:00 -
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So... dropped an orbital in FW just now, didn't hit anything, got one destroyed equipment and got kicked. Asked the Cap to check his killmail, didn't hit a damn thing. CCP mind telling me what the hell randomly takes 5000 points of damage that is not there!
Author of Umbra's Short Stories. Last story posted 11/25/2013.
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Gyn Wallace
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.12.11 15:30:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Just to clarify it's 4 reported team kills or 5k damage.
I was kicked from my first FW match for blowing up a neutral, unhacked blaster installation. There were no blue chevrons nearby who could have been hacking it.
I've heard of people being kicked for causing damage to their own tank in collisions. The idea for the damage limit is good, but the implementation is still rough.
Damage to your own equipment must not count against the limit. Hackable, destructable elements need a short "friendly fire" immunity timer, or the friendly fire destruction limit needs to be raised above the value of any single asset.
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Piercing Serenity
Fatal Absolution
457
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Posted - 2013.12.11 15:45:00 -
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EternalRMG wrote:Flux is the only nade u can use in a FF enviroment
Absolutely do not do this
I got kicked from FW yesterday after throwing a flux nade at some red dots. My blue dots were caught in the blast, and with fluxes doing 1200+ damage, I was instantly kicked
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Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
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Posted - 2013.12.11 15:59:00 -
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At the same time, an enemy tank triggered my proximity mines; what may have happened is that the triggered mines damaged the unexploded ones, thus kicking me for FF. This is ridiculous.
Speaking of ridiculous; I saw tanks going faster than LAVs! I also saw tanks covering 75m doing a wheelie...
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Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
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Posted - 2013.12.11 16:03:00 -
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In the days of Past, you could tell the difference between HAVs and LAVs on the map by their speed.
Now, you look at the map and go: "WTF is that?! Have they ninja-implemented Jet Fighters?!"
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Nirwanda Vaughns
Molon Labe.
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Posted - 2013.12.11 16:16:00 -
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yeah couple guys on in my corp experienced same thing. either threw a nade at bunch of red dots and some over confident bluedot decides to run in with a scram rifle and kill em and gets the brunt of the nade, last night one th eguys had some mines down on the bridge map and a friendly tank just game barrelling in with some kinda hero complex, obv not looking where he was oging and just disintegrated when he drove through a field of 15 prox mines.
it is a bit disheartening when something isn't your fault and i think there are some wepaons that should perhaps be excempt from FF. mainly, nades andprox/remote explosives. basically the ones where you don't have much control over the outcome. if a bluedot comes upto a point and shoots your remotes by accident and blows himself up then its purely down to their stupidity yet you're punished for it.
i think FF is a great mechanic in FW but i think some adjustments need to be made... also perhaps being crushed by DS too. i had a bluedot jump too early and got crushed and i got a warning |
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