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Castor Crave Orbital Flares 132	Posted - 2013.12.10 12:58:00 - [31] - Quote BMSTUBBY wrote: Oh the QQ! Haven't seen any QQ yet ;)
DiGreatDestroyer Grupo de Asalto Chacal RISE of LEGION 44	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:01:00 - [32] - Quote Castor Crave wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: Just to clarify it's 4 reported team kills or 5k damage. Thanks, must be the latter in my case (or that's what I hope). 5k damage goes for everything? So People, Vehicles, Turrets and Equipment? Everything but installations
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 1791	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:05:00 - [33] - Quote Castor Crave wrote: BMSTUBBY wrote: Oh the QQ! Haven't seen any QQ yet ;) Agreed. You have kept this thread on track and constructive, which is probably why it got Blue tags.
BMSTUBBY KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 453	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:11:00 - [34] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Castor Crave wrote: BMSTUBBY wrote: Oh the QQ! Haven't seen any QQ yet ;) Agreed. You have kept this thread on track and constructive, which is probably why it got Blue tags. Constructive QQ is still QQ. There has been no less than 500 threads about FW FF since it was announced. So yeah QQ. Meh, F2P Lobby Shooter. Working as intended.
Kaltos Darksbane KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Legacy Rising 123	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:12:00 - [35] - Quote So if I TK someone and they refuse to report it does the damage still get counted towards the 5k to be kicked? Dust 514?...............More like Dust 5150. I support SP rollover!
BMSTUBBY KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 453	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:13:00 - [36] - Quote Kaltos Darksbane wrote: So if I TK someone and they refuse to report it does the damage still get counted towards the 5k to be kicked? Yes Meh, F2P Lobby Shooter. Working as intended.
Castor Crave Orbital Flares 143	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:13:00 - [37] - Quote BMSTUBBY wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: Castor Crave wrote: BMSTUBBY wrote: Oh the QQ! Haven't seen any QQ yet ;) Agreed. You have kept this thread on track and constructive, which is probably why it got Blue tags. Constructive QQ is still QQ. There has been no less than 500 threads about FW FF since it was announced. So yeah QQ. Ya right Kaltos Darksbane wrote: So if I TK someone and they refuse to report it does the damage still get counted towards the 5k to be kicked? It seems like that.
Ryme Intrinseca The Rainbow Effect 328	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:15:00 - [38] - Quote EternalRMG wrote: Flux is the only nade u can use in a FF enviroment Yeah, no one uses core locus in PC
Castor Crave Orbital Flares 143	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:17:00 - [39] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: EternalRMG wrote: Flux is the only nade u can use in a FF enviroment Yeah, no one uses core locus in PC I'd expect shield damage still being counted towards the 5k limit. And seeing how equipment has up to 400 hp and some shield tanked suits even more than that... :s
steadyhand amarr Scions of Athra 2069	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:18:00 - [40] - Quote Welcome to the world of FF need to be careful with nades sounds like u damage quite a lot of blues so its working as intented spaming nades is a nono now :-) "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers

Robert JD Niewiadomski NULLIMPEX INC 724	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:27:00 - [41] - Quote What about ppl who intentionaly run into line of fire or into blast area and then "punish" me for TK? Is there any possibility for CCP to judge it from battle server match logs? F.E.A.R. stands for False Expectations Assumed Real
BMSTUBBY KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 453	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:30:00 - [42] - Quote Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote: What about ppl who intentionaly run into line of fire or into blast area and then "punish" me for TK? Is there any possibility for CCP to judge it from battle server match logs? No. Meh, F2P Lobby Shooter. Working as intended.
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 1641	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:30:00 - [43] - Quote Quote: Watch that s*t, Cowboy! Greedy Bastards'* Hate Lord
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 611	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:37:00 - [44] - Quote just remember 1 friendly equip is on average 400ehp.. accidently take out your own teams nest when its been overrun can be the end of your game. i suppose that would lower grenade and equipment spam in this game so maybe not a bad thing but something to considder https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 578	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:43:00 - [45] - Quote Castor Crave wrote: I just tried out my first FW Match and was thrown out due to friendly fire shortly before it ended. I think it was due to a grenade throw. I was #1 in WP and kills when that happened, killing and reviving people left and right. The fact that this happened in the first ever match I played is concerning. At least it doesn't seem to be possible to go into negative standing, but waiting a whole days before I can try again is frustrating, especially after not being able to complete a match. And the booster I bought and activated is useless for the time being. I wasn't playing reckless, since I am used to FF in PC matches. Does anyone else have similar experiences? I'll try Minmatar FW now, being extra careful. Edit: Nevermind, I am excluded from ALL FW contracts. Ewwwww Welcome to proper gameplay?!
smartlayer What The French 38	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:45:00 - [46] - Quote if you run in front of a tank or a vehicle i bet that if he damage or kill you that count as a kill and for your grief damage total ? If you get TK does the grief get one kill and damage stacking or only the kill ? if you TK 22 guy but nobody report you you Dont get kicked ?
Get Weird KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 0	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:55:00 - [47] - Quote Yep, looks like if you're going to use Flux OR Mass Drivers in FW you're going to have to be really careful where you spam your shots.
Rogue Saint Science For Death 609	Posted - 2013.12.10 13:58:00 - [48] - Quote Castor Crave wrote: I just tried out my first FW Match and was thrown out due to friendly fire shortly before it ended. I think it was due to a grenade throw. I was #1 in WP and kills when that happened, killing and reviving people left and right. The fact that this happened in the first ever match I played is concerning. At least it doesn't seem to be possible to go into negative standing, but waiting a whole days before I can try again is frustrating, especially after not being able to complete a match. And the booster I bought and activated is useless for the time being. I wasn't playing reckless, since I am used to FF in PC matches. Does anyone else have similar experiences? I'll try Minmatar FW now, being extra careful. Edit: Nevermind, I am excluded from ALL FW contracts. Ewwwww I lol'd GôêGÆ+GÆ+GÆ¦ - Bringing the dakka
Preacher Death 2 Lockheed Dynamics 64	Posted - 2013.12.10 14:00:00 - [49] - Quote I think your just unlucky. I went on a 3-4 team kill spree after they failed to watch my back while trying to cap a point on my second match.
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3432	Posted - 2013.12.10 14:01:00 - [50] - Quote not Harsh enough. Watch the damn fire blues.m

CELESTA AUNGM Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 56	Posted - 2013.12.10 14:07:00 - [51] - Quote Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote: What about ppl who intentionaly run into line of fire or into blast area and then "punish" me for TK? Is there any possibility for CCP to judge it from battle server match logs? ...This is a subject of Dust 514 that I am very interested in following. For some or us it's been 7 months (for some nearly three years) with an FPS that's Friendly Fire DISABLED... That's a LONG time, and in a game like Dust 514 that is MORE TEAM-based and COOP-encouraging than any I've played, that equates to a LOT of damaging reflex-habit that has to be erased from our behavior on the battlefield. It's not going to be easy. And I'm not sure any amount of discrete blue-on-blue tracking from the devs is going to help us with this. WE have to help each other. CHECK your fire!! Don't blame the stupid blueberry for crossing over your line of fire---because half the time he's not a stupid blueberry, he's the experienced vet who was leading your squad and owning the map last week (but that was when friendly fire was disabled, so he didn't have to THINK before he moved). CHECK you movements!! Don't blame your buddy for squashing you with is LAV, or tearing open the back of your dropsuit, and don't be so eager to report him to the devs. The devs will take your word for it that it was ALL HIS mistake, when in reality YOU DIDN'T THINK before you moved. NOW, in FW, you have to think it out more (quickly before you're shot of course). INCREASE buddy-communication! MIC is best (I know, it's "yuck" for a lot of us), or some kind of visual sign language to get your buddies to understand --"Grenade goin' in!" "Clear out--I'm calling down a Strike" or "Stay away from him so we can get a clear shot". USE that "Forgive" button as much as possible. Hey, we've got to give each other a break for accidental friendly fire in the first two weeks or so---this is a new adjustment period for so many of us. Yes, I know she was a careless klutz in that last match, but if she's your team-buddy, cut her some slack and let the incident go. Otherwise you won't have much of a team left to finish the day with. Steadyhand amarr's statement is correct. With the new FW, one of the toughest FPS games to deal with, has just gotten even tougher. Don't SPAM any weapons anymore. This is really going to be interesting...
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 46	Posted - 2013.12.10 14:08:00 - [52] - Quote In PC i have only team killed once so how is this so hard for you guys The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Public Disorder. 1340	Posted - 2013.12.10 14:17:00 - [53] - Quote We all have to retrain our reflexes lol I played 6 FW games, essentially with randoms, did join one squad of AE but most matches were randoms. And things were actually pretty good, died to one FF incident while charging forward, was as much my fault as his. Tagged a few friendlies without killing them and was tagged a few times but nothing serious. Given that the teams were random i was expecting far worse, tbh. As SOP i'm not forgiving any FF kills, and i'm hoping nobody is forgiving my kills - the harder we are on each other the quicker we'll retrain those explosive-spamming reflexes. Now that we have FF FW i'm feeling absolutely no incentive to go back to pub match skirmish. It's funny how quickly things can change. I support SP rollover.
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 473	Posted - 2013.12.10 15:02:00 - [54] - Quote It's rapidly become apparent that SP spent in grenades level IV And V are SP best spent elsewhere. Oh well. However.... I also saw a nasty way of WP whoring...a guy was shooting other guys uplinks and putting his own down. I actually don't mind getting whacked by a mistake particular this early in the new system snd honestly I don't mind straight up griefing that much (after the fact) but that's just plain old dueche bag stuff. It's selfish and makes me wish we could have team kick vote or something like that.
Ghermard-ol Dizeriois Maphia Clan Corporation 18	Posted - 2013.12.10 15:20:00 - [55] - Quote Good to know that FF on turrets won't lead to FW kick, yet the turret I was in got attacked by a teamate who used another turret nearby just to prevent me from getting WP. If you're an hacker, a cheater o a glitcher, you deserve death. In real life.
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 477	Posted - 2013.12.10 15:38:00 - [56] - Quote I think that TK will be less a problem after the first week or two. I also think that WP ganking tactics will start to increase....which may lead to more TK if I see another dude whip out his SMG and kill my uplink and put one down.
pseudosnipre 383	Posted - 2013.12.10 15:50:00 - [57] - Quote Glad to see its super harsh, fewer griefers and tools persisting in my matches. =) Solutions: 1. Don't TK 2. Queue synch with corpies sympathetic to your ineptitude Today is the sort of day where the sun only comes up to humiliate you.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5772	Posted - 2013.12.10 16:08:00 - [58] - Quote I'm enjoying this morning already. Love these kind of threads. OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
Zeke Zero Circus of midnight 7	Posted - 2013.12.10 16:23:00 - [59] - Quote I tried orbital strike earliest, received a penalty of 24 hours imprisonment is kick earliest. I doubt attack on the facility is not in a penalty target. Either way, it should be set up with care penalty.
CLONE117 planetary retaliation organisation 499	Posted - 2013.12.10 16:31:00 - [60] - Quote dark days are ahead. only way to avoid them is to do one thing and one thing only... STOP WASTING AMMO ON YOUR OWN TEAM MEMBERS. unless there afking or not doing anything in the redline then i guess dats ok.



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