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        |  Iron Wolf Saber
 Den of Swords
 
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      | Posted - 2013.12.20 14:28:00 -
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 Sorry for lack of activity, enjoying my winter break.
 
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        |  Iron Wolf Saber
 Den of Swords
 
 11349
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.20 22:30:00 -
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 Going live a short bit got a small amount of a headache so not going to do the next subject but instead redesign the tree.
 
 also adding a new section calling it reference since there this thing will be out of order and well applies everywhere to the game.
 
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        |  1st Lieutenant Tiberius
 0uter.Heaven
 
 694
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.20 23:01:00 -
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 This is awesome!! +11111
 
 The Sinwarden | 
      
      
        |  Roger Cordill
 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
 DARKSTAR ARMY
 
 296
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.20 23:33:00 -
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 Iron Wolf Saber wrote:fragmentedhackslash wrote:refer to Templar One? Male Dropsuit could be that guy that survived the ordeal.  
 message from Godin: His name is Vince. Anyways, I loved the Bolt pistol to the face idea. This is actually pretty much how I want it. I made a similar post like this in November of last year, only I didn't have pictures, and it wasn't on Google docs.
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        |  Iron Wolf Saber
 Den of Swords
 
 11352
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.21 00:10:00 -
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 @Godin
 
 Sorry for not explaining stuff yet
 
 Scouts are counter cloakers and hunters so +damage +speed +signatures strength +traditional stealth at the cost costs of slots and health from light suits
 
 Recon are cloakers they only get bonuses to the cloak fitting and cloak use. Fitting wise they also have the advantage of multiple equipment slots but in comparison to the scout their damage output, speed and defenses are not as good.
 
 Any suit can fit a cloak just the recons are best at it and will not have to fit fitting modules or unfit or downgrade modules to shove it on.
 
 I should probably rename the grenadier shock troop or something. Medium suit that gives up and equipment slot for a second grenade slot and has stronger buffer tank but weaker recovery tank and no offensive bonuses.
 
 Assaults will have a mix of attack and defense bonus and focus on recovery as a form of tanking.
 
 Hardsuits are going to be tech 3 suits for dust 514, they cannot be traditionally deployed so getting them to the field is going to be a bit troublesome and highly preventable. I haven't gotten to that section yet.
 
 As for MTACs the more I thought about it the more I thought they should be oversized infantry. Similar to the hardsuits they're not going to be easy to deploy . They are susceptible to AV and most heavier vehicles. What MTACs have over any other suit is mobility and firepower. They can climb walls as if they're ladders, have jump jets that allows them to jump over great distances or burn low to the ground to grind to the next safe spot of cover or get into the and can fit in more places than a LAV wouldn't dare try. To make them feel like oversized infantry MTACs could get powerful HP bonuses with plates and extenders and allow them to use the rest of the infantry modules including 'multiple' weapons. Although some modules would be better off being specific MTAC only modules such as jump jet cooling. Another case fitting Melee weapons gives the MTAC a unique melee weapon instead for example Nova Knifes gives them a Nova Sword a weapon they can potentially stab a tank to death with.
 
 Overlords are MTACs with heavy weapon slots as opposed to standard Light weapons so it could go toe to toe to a tank but a railgun shot would likely split an MTAC in half, they're slower and have better forward defenses but weaker back defenses.
 
 Bastions are slower moving MTACs but they have the ability to equip deployable equipment and basically use them passively. For example equipping a drop uplink turns the bastion into a MCRU. A bubble generator makes them a mobile bunker. This reduces the number of guns they have equipped overall (ergo lower damage by half overall instead of 4 ARs its 2)
 
 
 
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        |  ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals
 Seituoda Taskforce Command
 Caldari State
 
 711
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.21 00:25:00 -
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 There are those that complain about Dust dying and NPE and then there is IWS.
 
 CCP, Geth Infiltrator is OP! plz nerf. | 
      
      
        |  Roger Cordill
 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
 DARKSTAR ARMY
 
 296
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.21 00:40:00 -
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 message from Godin: Ah, I see. So, 3 things:
 
 1: Shouldn't the recon and scout be 1 and the same? I mean it seems more logical for it to be that way. You can have a more EWAR oriented suit and give up on combat ability, or you can have a more combat oriented suit and give up on EWAR. Seems like a better option than now, as if this happens, all the Scouts would use the Recon and we would have a Logi is better at assault pt. 2. Only this time, there's no real good ideas on how to fix it.
 
 2: What do you mean on it being hard for them to get to the battlefield?
 
 3: What are you streaming, and where?
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        |  Nazz'Dragg
 planetary retaliation organisation
 
 22
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.21 01:24:00 -
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 What's all this business with Sentinel, Commander and Crusader heavy Dropsuits?
 Why would the glorious Minmatar do with a big awkward dropsuit like a sentinel if it isn't kicking down doors and storming building and fast to boot it has no business being called a minmatar dropsuit.
 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lum_B9Scwo8#t=0m17s I would never of thought about that myself, Thanks. | 
      
      
        |  Iron Wolf Saber
 Den of Swords
 
 11352
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.21 01:34:00 -
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 Roger Cordill wrote:message from Godin: Ah, I see. So, 3 things:
 1: Shouldn't the recon and scout be 1 and the same? I mean it seems more logical for it to be that way. You can have a more EWAR oriented suit and give up on combat ability, or you can have a more combat oriented suit and give up on EWAR. Seems like a better option than now, as if this happens, all the Scouts would use the Recon and we would have a Logi is better at assault pt. 2. Only this time, there's no real good ideas on how to fix it.
 
 2: What do you mean on it being hard for them to get to the battlefield?
 
 3: What are you streaming, and where?
 
 @Godin
 
 I don't want to make the same mistake of eve of having cloaks introduced with no counter play (as in if someone cloaked in your system there is nothing you can do to find him.)
 
 While shooters are less prone to this symptom it can get rather annoying.
 
 Top this off with the new EWAR thinking I have planned think of the scout as your ewar frigate, your recon as a covert ops frigate
 
 
 
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        |  Maken Tosch
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 5961
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.21 06:11:00 -
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 God damn, you really put some thought into this.
 
 OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved? | 
      
      
        |  Iron Wolf Saber
 Den of Swords
 
 11354
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.21 06:33:00 -
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 Maken Tosch wrote:God damn, you really put some thought into this. 
 Skill tree is taking me far longer than I thought it would :( Dammit Godin some buggering me over everything not yet explained.
 
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        |  Maken Tosch
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 5962
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.21 06:40:00 -
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 Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:God damn, you really put some thought into this. Skill tree is taking me far longer than I thought it would :( Dammit Godin some buggering me over everything not yet explained. 
 Screw the skill tree, I'm talking about the details on the NPE and stuff like that.
 
 OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved? | 
      
      
        |  Iron Wolf Saber
 Den of Swords
 
 11354
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.21 07:17:00 -
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 Well going offline the skill tree was exhausting work. Til next time, I am thinking about doing all the offices in the racial styles described.
 
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        |  Jadek Menaheim
 Xer Cloud Consortium
 
 752
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.21 07:30:00 -
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 Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Well going offline the skill tree was exhausting work. Til next time, I am thinking about doing all the offices in the racial styles described.  Holy Smokes!! This is insanely massive. Excellent groundwork!
 
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        |  Aria Gomes
 Death by Disassociation
 Zero-Day
 
 218
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.21 07:59:00 -
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 IWS for President 2016!!
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        |  ReGnYuM
 Imperfects
 
 1575
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.21 08:12:00 -
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 nice
 
 Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset I learned how to make Jewelry out of Matari Flesh | 
      
      
        |  Auris Lionesse
 SVER True Blood
 Public Disorder.
 
 16
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.21 12:53:00 -
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 lost my interest the second it said cosmetic customization would be premium content.
 I fail to understand why it's so hard to add a color selector for certain parts of the suit like plating, underarmor, joints, eyes, etc.
 Would much rather pay 'x'isk to make a permanent paintjob for said fitting.
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        |  Iron Wolf Saber
 Den of Swords
 
 11357
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.21 16:53:00 -
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 Auris Lionesse wrote:On living spaces I lost interest when it said cosmetic customization and premium conten together.Why can't it have a color selector for certain parts of the suit like plating, underarmor, joints, eyes, etc.
 Would much rather pay 'x'isk to make a permanent paintjob for said fitting.
 
 If open roam is ever to be a mode players could potentially gain most of the decorations buyable but it should be a pain in the posterior to do so.
 
 Otherwise the station owners are not going to move your suite to a gantry or window room for free and would rather give you the generic room below decks until you can prove otherwise your worth.
 
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        |  Nazz'Dragg
 planetary retaliation organisation
 
 22
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.21 20:18:00 -
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 Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:On living spaces I lost interest when it said cosmetic customization and premium conten together.Why can't it have a color selector for certain parts of the suit like plating, underarmor, joints, eyes, etc.
 Would much rather pay 'x'isk to make a permanent paintjob for said fitting.
 If open roam is ever to be a mode players could potentially gain most of the decorations buyable but it should be a pain in the posterior to do so.  Otherwise the station owners are not going to move your suite to a gantry or window room for free and would rather give you the generic room below decks until you can prove otherwise your worth. LP stores are going to be the source for most of these purchases that change the major cosmetics of the room. While in game actions efforts trails are going to source the rest of the 'achievement' type decorations such as being a botanist on the field in open roam allows a player to add samples to the terrarium. Can we get a row of shrunken Amarrian heads as a premium vanity decoration?
 So when I walk through my quarter, I can feel like I'm doing a service to the Minmatar Republic.
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lum_B9Scwo8#t=0m17s I would never of thought about that myself, Thanks. | 
      
      
        |  Iron Wolf Saber
 Den of Swords
 
 11360
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.21 21:26:00 -
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 Nazz'Dragg wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:On living spaces I lost interest when it said cosmetic customization and premium conten together.Why can't it have a color selector for certain parts of the suit like plating, underarmor, joints, eyes, etc.
 Would much rather pay 'x'isk to make a permanent paintjob for said fitting.
 If open roam is ever to be a mode players could potentially gain most of the decorations buyable but it should be a pain in the posterior to do so.  Otherwise the station owners are not going to move your suite to a gantry or window room for free and would rather give you the generic room below decks until you can prove otherwise your worth. LP stores are going to be the source for most of these purchases that change the major cosmetics of the room. While in game actions efforts trails are going to source the rest of the 'achievement' type decorations such as being a botanist on the field in open roam allows a player to add samples to the terrarium. Can we get a row of shrunken Amarrian heads as a premium vanity decoration? So when I walk through my quarter, I can feel like I'm doing a service to the Minmatar Republic. 
 Frozen people in carbonite?
 
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        |  Vrain Matari
 ZionTCD
 Public Disorder.
 
 1381
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.21 23:03:00 -
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 Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Nazz'Dragg wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:On living spaces I lost interest when it said cosmetic customization and premium conten together.Why can't it have a color selector for certain parts of the suit like plating, underarmor, joints, eyes, etc.
 Would much rather pay 'x'isk to make a permanent paintjob for said fitting.
 If open roam is ever to be a mode players could potentially gain most of the decorations buyable but it should be a pain in the posterior to do so.  Otherwise the station owners are not going to move your suite to a gantry or window room for free and would rather give you the generic room below decks until you can prove otherwise your worth. LP stores are going to be the source for most of these purchases that change the major cosmetics of the room. While in game actions efforts trails are going to source the rest of the 'achievement' type decorations such as being a botanist on the field in open roam allows a player to add samples to the terrarium. Can we get a row of shrunken Amarrian heads as a premium vanity decoration? So when I walk through my quarter, I can feel like I'm doing a service to the Minmatar Republic. Frozen people in carbonite? A fine idea, sir.
 
 On the topic of suit cosmetics/customization I agree that free roam would maximize the market. But by the same token the appetite peeps have expressed on these forums even for in-match cosmetic options is bordering on rabid. Can you imagine just how much the Ammarian girly-boys would spend on prettier skirts? The mind boggles at the potential revenue stream Ammarian vanity represents.
 
 We Minmatar, however, are not susceptible to such things ;)
 
 I support SP rollover. | 
      
      
        |  Phazoid
 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
 DARKSTAR ARMY
 
 142
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.22 04:15:00 -
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 i love it, i think to the armory you should add virtual weapons test, it let you try weapons without having skilled into them, only in your armory of course, for free so you can know what to skill into, also the ability to play the music on your console background, in the office there should be a big screen displaying new price movements on the player market, also i want my slaverhound to greet me when i arrive from killing, in the office there should be the posibility to watch ongoing matches or to see tutorial vids as well, and i dont think customization for the living space should cost aurm, maybe ISK and LP
 
 Ib'tuur jatne tuur ash'ad kyr'amur (Today is a good day for someone else to die). | 
      
      
        |  Phazoid
 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
 DARKSTAR ARMY
 
 142
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.22 04:17:00 -
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 also a minmatar chewing toy for my slaverhound
  
 Ib'tuur jatne tuur ash'ad kyr'amur (Today is a good day for someone else to die). | 
      
      
        |  Auris Lionesse
 SVER True Blood
 Public Disorder.
 
 16
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.22 04:31:00 -
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 Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:On living spaces I lost interest when it said cosmetic customization and premium conten together.Why can't it have a color selector for certain parts of the suit like plating, underarmor, joints, eyes, etc.
 Would much rather pay 'x'isk to make a permanent paintjob for said fitting.
 If open roam is ever to be a mode players could potentially gain most of the decorations buyable but it should be a pain in the posterior to do so.  Otherwise the station owners are not going to move your suite to a gantry or window room for free and would rather give you the generic room below decks until you can prove otherwise your worth. LP stores are going to be the source for most of these purchases that change the major cosmetics of the room. While in game actions efforts trails are going to source the rest of the 'achievement' type decorations such as being a botanist on the field in open roam allows a player to add samples to the terrarium. 
 
 As long as it's not aurum for different colored suits.
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        |  Iron Wolf Saber
 Den of Swords
 
 11370
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.22 06:07:00 -
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 Auris Lionesse wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:On living spaces I lost interest when it said cosmetic customization and premium conten together.Why can't it have a color selector for certain parts of the suit like plating, underarmor, joints, eyes, etc.
 Would much rather pay 'x'isk to make a permanent paintjob for said fitting.
 If open roam is ever to be a mode players could potentially gain most of the decorations buyable but it should be a pain in the posterior to do so.  Otherwise the station owners are not going to move your suite to a gantry or window room for free and would rather give you the generic room below decks until you can prove otherwise your worth. LP stores are going to be the source for most of these purchases that change the major cosmetics of the room. While in game actions efforts trails are going to source the rest of the 'achievement' type decorations such as being a botanist on the field in open roam allows a player to add samples to the terrarium. As long as it's not aurum for different colored suits. 
 I was thinking more along the lines of a default pallet in good color selection but patterns and additional color sets to not be as widely available but all sellable on the market at least.
 
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        |  Iron Wolf Saber
 Den of Swords
 
 11388
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.24 02:07:00 -
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 Sorry been working on this and not been doing any streams yet. Also still thinking about how to proceede and how I probably need to go back and just redo the entire thing. However as more and more I move along I know what section B will be about now. The entire neocom.
 
 Anyways making more reference sheets for myself so I can keep things consistent on my end.
 
 Technology Tree Enjoy what I got done so far.
 
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        |  Iron Wolf Saber
 Den of Swords
 
 11442
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.27 12:40:00 -
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 Well didn't stream this one so no pictures sorry
 
 So the newest section academy days.
 
 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZZzBtpNaMFjVXEBjBlGevpssAggrojbtmOxpTdxVdv0/edit?usp=sharing
 
 and Ill go out and finishing filling out the tech tree I guess.
 
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        |  Iron Wolf Saber
 Den of Swords
 
 11442
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.27 14:04:00 -
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 BAH ><
 
 Google Documents has updated their excel sheet to go beyond column AB. Give me a moment while I redo the tech tree AGAIN ><.
 
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        |  Iron Wolf Saber
 Den of Swords
 
 11448
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.27 23:29:00 -
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 Okay Fixed the Trees best I could, realized I am going to need a new section in reference called inventory that has the descriptors for the new and old items so stay tuned for that. For now going to bed
 
 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqHgiF-KXQZXdDdKYjRQT193VDlfbFM5b0FwdlB5Ymc&amp;usp=drive_web#gid=4
 
 Also looking for names of stuff.
 
 Remember as far as dust is concerned,
 
 Gallente = Greek and Babylonian Mythos
 Caldari = Weapons
 Amarr = Holy
 Minmatar = Predatory or Dangerous Animals.
 
 Also am willing to listen to better weapon name ideas as well for all classes already previewed, Ill get to adding minmatar and caldari soon as all the tree layouts are the same.
 
 Drop Suit upgrades, vehicle upgrades, weapon and turret skills are still on my todo list.
 
 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqHgiF-KXQZXdHVUUjVmdUxKWThHYmczWTBYWGtGQWc&usp=drive_web#gid=5
 
 Skills sheet that applies to the tech tree.
 
 Take note I have committed teiricide on both vehicles and suits.
 
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        |  Necandi Brasil
 DUST BRASIL S.A
 Covert Intervention
 
 612
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.12.28 00:26:00 -
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 IWS... I can't describe what I'm doing over your ideas...
 You have the vision that a CPM must have !
 I congratulate you and salute you for your efforts and ideas... o7
 
 Tanks 514! Cheap, fast, Indestrucbible and you see tankers telling it's balanced...
Just makes you want to quit this BS | 
      
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