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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
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Posted - 2013.12.08 17:54:00 -
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No this isn't a QQ thread just a question: Are scrambler rifles really OP, or is it just that their ROF is a bit too high, like the TAR of past?
Or it's the whole damage mod thing.....nah that can't be it.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
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Knight Soiaire
BurgezzE.T.F
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Posted - 2013.12.08 17:54:00 -
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Too reliable in CQC.
Nerf hipfire accuracy.
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GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR
The Corporate Raiders
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Posted - 2013.12.08 17:55:00 -
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LET ME STOP U RIGHT THERE , LETS NOT!
My PS3 is dusty ._.
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.08 17:55:00 -
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GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote:LET ME STOP U RIGHT THERE , LETS NOT!
Too late.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
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Sev Alcatraz
Unkn0wn Killers
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.08 17:56:00 -
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Scr is fine nerf the Ar effective range give the Scr less hip fire accuracy |
Yoma Carrim
Situation Normal all fraked up
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Posted - 2013.12.08 17:56:00 -
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It's currently the only competitor for the AR so no its not OP if we go off that.
That time when you turn a corner and find the entire enemy team.Oh Heck
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.08 17:58:00 -
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SCR needs to have a damage falloff effect similar to the LR in CQC, but not as much as the LR
And it does need a ROF cap.
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
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Posted - 2013.12.08 17:58:00 -
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Hip fire is way too good. It's got the hipfire spread of a sidearm.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.08 18:00:00 -
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Yoma Carrim wrote:It's currently the only competitor for the AR so no its not OP if we go off that.
That's terrible reasoning.
"My GalLogi with 900HP of armor is not OP because it's the only competitor against the CalLogi with 600HP of shields; therefore it's not OP if we go off that"
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.12.08 18:00:00 -
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Dat charge shot
That's actually probably the least OP thing, it just annoys me >_<
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Sinboto Simmons
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Posted - 2013.12.08 18:02:00 -
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Yoma Carrim wrote:It's currently the only competitor for the AR so no its not OP if we go off that.
Didn't you know, anything that can compete with the plasma rifle is automatically OP and needs a nerffing just look at the:MD,LR,Flaylock- reads off a long list for half an hour, some things are on it that aren't even in the game yet.
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HYENAKILLER X
Gallente PowerHouse
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Posted - 2013.12.08 18:02:00 -
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They arent as good as the duvolle period.
They have high damage and a scope but you sacrifice fittings to equip them. Also they seem to be solid at mid range but the gek with dmg mods is dirty.
if you can rock a scrambler(not full auto) and win its not tge weapon. You are actually really fkn good.
Single fire weapons are hard as hell to use.
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Yoma Carrim
Situation Normal all fraked up
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Posted - 2013.12.08 18:04:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Yoma Carrim wrote:It's currently the only competitor for the AR so no its not OP if we go off that. Didn't you know, anything that can compete with the plasma rifle is automatically OP and needs a nerffing just look at the:MD,LR,Flaylock- reads off a long list for half an hour, some things are on it that aren't even in the game yet.
hay you asked and considering I haven't seen a Nerf AR thread in a while.... well you get it
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CrotchGrab 360
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.12.08 18:05:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:No this isn't a QQ thread just a question: Are scrambler rifles really OP, or is it just that their ROF is a bit too high, like the TAR of past?
Or it's the whole damage mod thing.....nah that can't be it.
no, it's fine that a SCR can deal 1200 damage in 1 second flat
or kill starter fits in 3 rounds (half a second).
they don't do too much damage or have too fast an RoF, they're also not deadly accurate.
they're FINE says the average DUST player who wants to keep destroying new players at the redline
in 3 shots whilst wearing 800hp armour and simultaneously making sure those new players never pick up DUST again.
a gun which does more than double the base damage of an AR which also does 3x the base damage on an AR when upgraded is fine and definitely not OP.
you're stupid to even suggest such a thing. next thing you know your thread will get 700 views and 1000 people
jumping down your throat.
don't threaten to take the kid's toys away!!!
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Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.12.08 18:06:00 -
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*Having PTSD attack of Early Uprising Duvolle Tactical Rifles*
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.08 18:06:00 -
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HYENAKILLER X wrote:They arent as good as the duvolle period.
They have high damage and a scope but you sacrifice fittings to equip them. Also they seem to be solid at mid range but the gek with dmg mods is dirty.
if you can rock a scrambler(not full auto) and win its not tge weapon. You are actually really fkn good.
Single fire weapons are hard as hell to use.
I was consistently pulling 10-20 kills with a basic SCR and only 1 Enhanced Damage mod all last night.
The only time I died was when I overheated while trying to kill mr.mustard.
So am I just really "fkin" good?
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Knight Soiaire
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.08 18:07:00 -
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Sev Alcatraz wrote:Scr is fine nerf the Ar effective range give the Scr less hip fire accuracy
Dont nerf AR range, its range isn't the problem, its recoil is.
There is little to none recoil until around the 20th shot, if you increase recoil so it kicks in earlier, and remove the 'Feathering' technique, the AR would become harder to use at its effective ranges.
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Knight Soiaire
BurgezzE.T.F
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Posted - 2013.12.08 18:08:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Dat charge shot That's actually probably the least OP thing, it just annoys me >_<
Yes, whenever it hits me I go 'Oh ****' Sniper! Then I duck for cover, only for it to be some Amarrian behind me with a CRW-04.
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Yoma Carrim
Situation Normal all fraked up
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Posted - 2013.12.08 18:10:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Yoma Carrim wrote:It's currently the only competitor for the AR so no its not OP if we go off that. That's terrible reasoning. "My GalLogi with 900HP of armor is not OP because it's the only competitor against the CalLogi with 600HP of shields; therefore it's not OP if we go off that"
it was intended to be sarcastic...darn internet and not letting sarcasm come through.
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Alena Ventrallis
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.12.08 18:13:00 -
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As a scrambler rifle user (went proto yesterday, woo!) I will cede that the scrambler is too useful outside it's intended range. However, that wonky-ass laser rifle profile will not touch my weapon. I hate it. Instead, how about this:
Increase hip fire spread, slightly (by like 50 or so) nerf ROF, and reduce magazine capacity to 25-30. Im for an increase of hip fire spread most of all (nothing extraordinary, maybe by 50% and adjust from there) But the damage on it and ROF is fine. The issue is not the damage it deals, but the application of that damage. All weapons were balanced around bad hit detection. That's why TTK is so short in the first place. Instead of nerfing a weapons raw damage output, why not adjust how well it can apply that damage?
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Kal Kronos
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Posted - 2013.12.08 18:13:00 -
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Hipfire is broke ass, heat glitch is broke ass, fix those and rof is fine. Leave those, then cap rof not too drastic and gun is still beast but not broke ass. I've been using the thing exclusively since 1.5, and can say complaints are justified but damn AR is just as broke ass.
Dedicated redline sniper, tower forger, nade spammer, protostomper, formerly mass driver, and now scrambler CQC spammer.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.08 18:13:00 -
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Yoma Carrim wrote:Atiim wrote:Yoma Carrim wrote:It's currently the only competitor for the AR so no its not OP if we go off that. That's terrible reasoning. "My GalLogi with 900HP of armor is not OP because it's the only competitor against the CalLogi with 600HP of shields; therefore it's not OP if we go off that" it was intended to be sarcastic...darn internet and not letting sarcasm come through.
My apologies
Now I just made this normal thread about the SCR all fraked up
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.08 18:16:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:Sev Alcatraz wrote:Scr is fine nerf the Ar effective range give the Scr less hip fire accuracy Dont nerf AR range, its range isn't the problem, its recoil is.There is little to none recoil until around the 20th shot, if you increase recoil so it kicks in earlier, and remove the 'Feathering' technique, the AR would become harder to use at its effective ranges.
We're going to have to disagree here bud, as an EvE player I know for a fact how plasma weapons are meant to behave, this BS we deal with, not even close.
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Yoma Carrim
Situation Normal all fraked up
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Posted - 2013.12.08 18:17:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Yoma Carrim wrote:Atiim wrote:Yoma Carrim wrote:It's currently the only competitor for the AR so no its not OP if we go off that. That's terrible reasoning. "My GalLogi with 900HP of armor is not OP because it's the only competitor against the CalLogi with 600HP of shields; therefore it's not OP if we go off that" it was intended to be sarcastic...darn internet and not letting sarcasm come through. My apologies Now I just made this normal thread about the SCR all fraked up
its okay as a Cal logi myself it made me laugh because of how true it is
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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
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Posted - 2013.12.08 18:20:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:No this isn't a QQ thread just a question: Are scrambler rifles really OP, or is it just that their ROF is a bit too high, like the TAR of past?
Or it's the whole damage mod thing.....nah that can't be it.
All the rifles / weapons with high RoF are totally OP.
Assault rifle is the most op weapon i ever saw.
Range should be heavily nerfed and damage light buffed (to make it THE short range assault rifle like it's intended.)
Scrambler rifle should just have his RoF light nerfed and his hip-fire light nerfed too.
And (only) semi auto should have a smaller Mag.
SMG should have a light RoF reduction. (or a hip fire nerf.) |
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The Corporate Raiders
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Posted - 2013.12.08 18:21:00 -
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Atiim wrote:HYENAKILLER X wrote:They arent as good as the duvolle period.
They have high damage and a scope but you sacrifice fittings to equip them. Also they seem to be solid at mid range but the gek with dmg mods is dirty.
if you can rock a scrambler(not full auto) and win its not tge weapon. You are actually really fkn good.
Single fire weapons are hard as hell to use. I was consistently pulling 10-20 kills with a basic SCR and only 1 Enhanced Damage mod all last night. The only time I died was when I overheated while trying to kill mr.mustard. So am I just really "fkin" good?
Ur not good as i say again ,go against me and ill make u hate dust
My PS3 is dusty ._.
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HYENAKILLER X
Gallente PowerHouse
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Posted - 2013.12.08 18:27:00 -
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Mordecai Sanguine wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:No this isn't a QQ thread just a question: Are scrambler rifles really OP, or is it just that their ROF is a bit too high, like the TAR of past?
Or it's the whole damage mod thing.....nah that can't be it. All the rifles / weapons with high RoF are totally OP. Assault rifle is the most op weapon i ever saw. Range should be heavily nerfed and damage light buffed (to make it THE short range assault rifle like it's intended.) Scrambler rifle should just have his RoF light nerfed and his hip-fire light nerfed too. And (only) semi auto should have a smaller Mag. SMG should have a light RoF reduction. (or a hip fire nerf.)
This entire post is garbage.
If anything give ars scopes. The one thing in this game that is making people soft is the fact that you really have a very good fighting chance. Not against explosives. You are actually fkd against explosives and tanks. But on foot, weapon in hand you have a chance. Ar is fine. Scrambler is hype and most of you in all honesty are weaklings.
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GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR
The Corporate Raiders
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Posted - 2013.12.08 18:27:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote:LET ME STOP U RIGHT THERE , LETS NOT! Too late.
No seriously THREAD LOCKED!
My PS3 is dusty ._.
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Aero Yassavi
Scions of Athra
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Posted - 2013.12.08 18:30:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Are scrambler rifles really OP, or is it just that their ROF is a bit too high, like the TAR of past?
The rate of fire is fine. Notice how the scrambler rifles have remained largely unchanged since they were introduced and we're only just now hearing complaints about them. People ran out of stuff to QQ about.
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Kahn Zo
Furyan Alpha
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Posted - 2013.12.08 18:31:00 -
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I tried the (BPO) SCR last night on my BPO scout,
With the little amount of time I had with the outfit, set up,
I like it.
I will spend more time with it
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