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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.08 05:44:00 -
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ALT2 acc wrote:Atiim wrote:ALT2 acc wrote:Atiim wrote:ALT2 acc wrote:
proxies to deter him from the area or help kill him, duh, and i said best counter, in 1.7 MLT rails will kill
Wow I'd be a real show stopper and even lock out an entire team by throwing ISK at something? That definitely won't become OP or a FoTM. Or both for that matter really? if theres a bunch of mines he cant go through without almost dying, and use your av or lower tank firepower against infantry Bingo we have a winner!!!! That's what I've been saying for months. If you want to be the best counter against yourselves, then you can't be effective against infantry as well. You can be Anti-Vehicle or Anti-Infantry. But you can't be good at both; just like AV. And before you even say "Well what about the FG?"; the FG's description is Anti-Material. Meaning it's designed for both infantry and vehicles. but what about "balance"? oh and rails and missiles are unusable against infantry at ALL, blasters are the problem
Then do what True Adamance wants.
Remove them.
As for FGs, I say no because heavies only have 2 weapons that can kill infantry.
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Posted - 2013.12.08 05:45:00 -
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Roger Cordill wrote:Message from Godin: Do me a favor. Look at the requirements to max out a Maddy fit. Now look at the requirements to max a fitted Wiki swarm fit. See the difference? Plus, Look at the price involved, and the fact that we have much more limitations than infantry has. I think I've made my point. Also, This was a whole bunch of people on the other team. I remember seeing a couple of Nain on LAV's, which were BPO I think. As for the DS's and HAV's, no clue who they were, but they were either tech 1 HAV's, or tech 2 DS's, and they didn't go down easy. I'm just good at hunting vehicles. It's a passion of mine that I enjoy. 
As Atiim said:
''Wow I'd be a real show stopper and even lock out an entire team by throwing ISK at something?
(And because +SP?)
That definitely won't become OP or a FoTM.
Or both for that matter.''
Balance cannot be broken no matter how much SP and ISK you invest. FACT.
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Posted - 2013.12.08 05:45:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Soulja Ghostface wrote:Atiim wrote:Soulja Ghostface wrote:
really atimm really a sh!t fit.
heavy armor rep unit 1
poly plate
2 hardeners
pg upgrade
damage control and nitro.
gets wrecked by any type of AV
hell even av nades and a nanovive can kill that
and tha ladies and gentlemen is why there is currently no balance at vehicles
If that fit is easily wrecked by MLT/STD or ADV AV then you need some serious pilot training. And why are you driving into crowds of infantry long enough to have them place a Nanohive and constantly throw AV grenades? That's like me complaining about getting killed when I jump into a group of enemies. no. its about me fulfilling my role and helping my teambreach through enemy positions
You can fulfill your role just as well by not driving straight into enemy positions. Have you ever heard of staying in mid-range combat?[/quote]
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Soulja Ghostface
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Posted - 2013.12.08 05:47:00 -
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i am not discussing anti vehicle. i can solo maddys with a blaster anyday.
i am supposed to take and deal heavy damage. i dont want godmode.
but taking heavy damage is impossile without popping.
therefore i can not effecticely TANK
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Posted - 2013.12.08 05:47:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:
really atimm really a sh!t fit.
heavy armor rep unit 1
poly plate
2 hardeners
pg upgrade
damage control and nitro.
gets wrecked by any type of AV
hell even av nades and a nanovive can kill that
and tha ladies and gentlemen is why there is currently no balance at vehicles
My MK.0 scout gets killed by MLT crap even faster than your tank. And for the 350 HP they have , 160k per suit is a robbery
ANYONE in PROTO gear can be killed by MLT/STD gear easily. if the player with proto gear is not skilled enough that is.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.08 05:48:00 -
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ALT2 acc wrote:Atiim wrote:ALT2 acc wrote:
proxies to deter him from the area or help kill him, duh, and i said best counter, in 1.7 MLT rails will kill
Wow I'd be a real show stopper and even lock out an entire team by throwing ISK at something? That definitely won't become OP or a FoTM. Or both for that matter really? if theres a bunch of mines he cant go through without almost dying, and use your av or lower tank firepower against infantry
You can only have a maximum of 3 mines active on the field, and you have to monitor the mines at all times if you want them to blow up when a vehicle drives over them.
And Proximity Explosives? I can easily survive even 6 of them.
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Posted - 2013.12.08 05:48:00 -
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atim, it doesn't matter how many weapons the heavy has it has to be balanced, the HMG will get a fix SoonGäó and it cant be best at both, like blasters are |
Soulja Ghostface
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Posted - 2013.12.08 05:49:00 -
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after dividing and hopefully killing a few of enemy soldiers i should gtfo and no a second later.
but i cannot do my jobbefore someone spawns in with ishukone assault fg
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Posted - 2013.12.08 05:50:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Soulja Ghostface wrote:
really atimm really a sh!t fit.
heavy armor rep unit 1
poly plate
2 hardeners
pg upgrade
damage control and nitro.
gets wrecked by any type of AV
hell even av nades and a nanovive can kill that
and tha ladies and gentlemen is why there is currently no balance at vehicles
My MK.0 scout gets killed by MLT crap even faster than your tank. And for the 350 HP they have , 160k per suit is a robbery ANYONE in PROTO gear can be killed by MLT/STD gear easily. if the player with proto gear is not skilled enough that is.
thats a scout problem, wer're talking logis and assaults, maybe not cal assaults |
Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.08 05:51:00 -
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ALT2 acc wrote:
we tanks just want to be able to escape if we see too many enemies thats his point
Okay now I really just hope your trolling.
Have you ever even thought about using an active scanner then?
To put a more informal spin on things; "Bro, do you even Active Scan?"
Seriously though. Turn on your active scanner and you can easily see the enemies ahead. And they have a quick cooldown time with a long duration.
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Posted - 2013.12.08 05:52:00 -
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Atiim wrote:ALT2 acc wrote:Atiim wrote:ALT2 acc wrote:
proxies to deter him from the area or help kill him, duh, and i said best counter, in 1.7 MLT rails will kill
Wow I'd be a real show stopper and even lock out an entire team by throwing ISK at something? That definitely won't become OP or a FoTM. Or both for that matter really? if theres a bunch of mines he cant go through without almost dying, and use your av or lower tank firepower against infantry You can only have a maximum of 3 mines active on the field, and you have to monitor the mines at all times if you want them to blow up when a vehicle drives over them. And Proximity Explosives? I can easily survive even 6 of them.
it'll still deter you
and buff mines but make it so they cant insta pop every tank |
Soulja Ghostface
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Posted - 2013.12.08 05:53:00 -
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have you ever lifted a rock and ound roaches swaming.
lucky you carried bugspray.
have the roaches pulled out a missle launcher on youno.
apply tanks and AV to that situation
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.08 05:53:00 -
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ALT2 acc wrote:atim, it doesn't matter how many weapons the heavy has it has to be balanced, the HMG will get a fix SoonGäó and it cant be best at both, like blasters are
I'm not a Forge Gun specialist. That's KING CHECKMATE's department.
And when I use heavies, it's on my brother's account.
I'm not qualified to make a decision so I will say "No Contest".
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Posted - 2013.12.08 05:53:00 -
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Atiim wrote:ALT2 acc wrote:
we tanks just want to be able to escape if we see too many enemies thats his point
Okay now I really just hope your trolling. Have you ever even thought about using an active scanner then? To put a more informal spin on things; "Bro, do you even Active Scan?" Seriously though. Turn on your active scanner and you can easily see the enemies ahead. And they have a quick cooldown time with a long duration.
ever use a gunlogi? but still shouldn't insta pop(slight exaggeration)gunlogi's cant use scanners basically |
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ALT2 acc wrote:atim, it doesn't matter how many weapons the heavy has it has to be balanced, the HMG will get a fix SoonGäó and it cant be best at both, like blasters are
I could deal with tanks being TWICE as resistant as they are.HELL , let them even keep their ungodly speed!
But then remove blaster turrets and :
GÖªMissiles get a Splash damage TONE DOWN , Direct damage increase (Purposed for Vehicle vs Vehicle combat not so much at obliverating infantry)
GÖªMake rails have a MUCH bigger splash radius,but VERY little Splash damage. increae their direct hit damage.
There you go,now you have near invencible vehicles taht have the tools to f*** up eachother good, and you are not getting annoyid / insta popped bi INFATRY!
But neither is infantry being seriously threatened by tanks.
Most they can do is support infantry and give cover while Infantry can only help other tanks down an enemy tank.
see?
I BROUGHT YOU BALANCE
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Posted - 2013.12.08 05:55:00 -
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ALT2 acc wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Soulja Ghostface wrote:
really atimm really a sh!t fit.
heavy armor rep unit 1
poly plate
2 hardeners
pg upgrade
damage control and nitro.
gets wrecked by any type of AV
hell even av nades and a nanovive can kill that
and tha ladies and gentlemen is why there is currently no balance at vehicles
My MK.0 scout gets killed by MLT crap even faster than your tank. And for the 350 HP they have , 160k per suit is a robbery ANYONE in PROTO gear can be killed by MLT/STD gear easily. if the player with proto gear is not skilled enough that is. thats a scout problem, wer're talking logis and assaults, maybe not cal assaults
I'll repeat myself:
ANYONE in PROTO gear can be killed by MLT/STD gear easily.
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Soulja Ghostface
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Posted - 2013.12.08 05:56:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:have you ever lifted a rock and ound roaches swaming.
lucky you carried bugspray.
have the roaches pulled out a missle launcher on youno.
apply tanks and AV to that situation
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Posted - 2013.12.08 05:58:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:ALT2 acc wrote:atim, it doesn't matter how many weapons the heavy has it has to be balanced, the HMG will get a fix SoonGäó and it cant be best at both, like blasters are I could deal with tanks being TWICE as resistant as they are.HELL , let them even keep their ungodly speed! But then remove blaster turrets and : GÖªMissiles get a Splash damage TONE DOWN , Direct damage increase (Purposed for Vehicle vs Vehicle combat not so much at obliverating infantry) GÖªMake rails have a MUCH bigger splash radius,but VERY little Splash damage. increae their direct hit damage. There you go,now you have near invencible vehicles taht have the tools to f*** up eachother good, and you are not getting annoyid / insta popped bi INFATRY! But neither is infantry being seriously threatened by tanks.
1 thing, missile turets cant kill a thing, so leave thier splash dmg and fix thier dmg glitch
tanks have ammo now
if tanks cant kill infantry then whats the point? |
Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.08 05:59:00 -
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ALT2 acc wrote:Atiim wrote:ALT2 acc wrote:
we tanks just want to be able to escape if we see too many enemies thats his point
Okay now I really just hope your trolling. Have you ever even thought about using an active scanner then? To put a more informal spin on things; "Bro, do you even Active Scan?" Seriously though. Turn on your active scanner and you can easily see the enemies ahead. And they have a quick cooldown time with a long duration. ever use a gunlogi? but still shouldn't insta pop(slight exaggeration)gunlogi's cant use scanners basically
I know they can't. They also can barely use nitrous.
I personally thing with should have a special type of slot, similar to infantry equipment slots for goodies such as Active Scanners and Nitrous.
That way, shield tank users won't be f***ed over by the fact that they can barely fit anything on thier vehicles without sacrificing tons of HP.
This is also why the Charybolis has 4 highs and 2 lows while the Limbus gets 3 highs and 3 lows.
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Posted - 2013.12.08 06:00:00 -
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Atiim wrote:ALT2 acc wrote:atim, it doesn't matter how many weapons the heavy has it has to be balanced, the HMG will get a fix SoonGäó and it cant be best at both, like blasters are I'm not a Forge Gun specialist. That's KING CHECKMATE's department. And when I use heavies, it's on my brother's account. I'm not qualified to make a decision so I will say "No Contest".
I've had tanks i tried to SOLO (yeah yeah i know shush)
With my PROTO BREACH FORGE GUN, PROF 5, 2 Cx Damage mods and they take 4 hits to the face like its nothing, and their reppers get them to almost full life while im reloading. heh....
(Of course MLT ones usually dont last more than 2. DS fall in 1 shot usually unless they are LLAvs)
Well im out to play dust. See you around Dusties. GG....
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.08 06:01:00 -
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ALT2 acc wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:ALT2 acc wrote:atim, it doesn't matter how many weapons the heavy has it has to be balanced, the HMG will get a fix SoonGäó and it cant be best at both, like blasters are I could deal with tanks being TWICE as resistant as they are.HELL , let them even keep their ungodly speed! But then remove blaster turrets and : GÖªMissiles get a Splash damage TONE DOWN , Direct damage increase (Purposed for Vehicle vs Vehicle combat not so much at obliverating infantry) GÖªMake rails have a MUCH bigger splash radius,but VERY little Splash damage. increae their direct hit damage. There you go,now you have near invincible vehicles taht have the tools to f*** up eachother good, and you are not getting annoyid / insta popped bi INFATRY! But neither is infantry being seriously threatened by tanks. 1 thing, missile turets cant kill a thing, so leave their splash dmg and fix their dmg glitch tanks have ammo now if tanks cant kill infantry then whats the point?
They'd still be able to kill infantry, but not as well.
You can have the cake, or you can have the pie. But you can't have both.
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Posted - 2013.12.08 06:02:00 -
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ALT2 acc wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:ALT2 acc wrote:atim, it doesn't matter how many weapons the heavy has it has to be balanced, the HMG will get a fix SoonGäó and it cant be best at both, like blasters are I could deal with tanks being TWICE as resistant as they are.HELL , let them even keep their ungodly speed! But then remove blaster turrets and : GÖªMissiles get a Splash damage TONE DOWN , Direct damage increase (Purposed for Vehicle vs Vehicle combat not so much at obliverating infantry) GÖªMake rails have a MUCH bigger splash radius,but VERY little Splash damage. increae their direct hit damage. There you go,now you have near invencible vehicles taht have the tools to f*** up eachother good, and you are not getting annoyid / insta popped bi INFATRY! But neither is infantry being seriously threatened by tanks. 1 thing, missile turets cant kill a thing, so leave thier splash dmg and fix thier dmg glitch tanks have ammo now if tanks cant kill infantry then whats the point?
They kill my Scout and STD gear pretty easily.
And they usually annoy the S**t out of me in closed objectives.So far as killing me or finishing me while i try to flee (this late statement im talking about my regular ADV suits)
Its not the Rocket launcher.Its the driver that cant kill a thing.
WHATS THE POINT?
What every tanker here ''truly wants''
TANK VS TANK battles.
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Posted - 2013.12.08 06:02:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Atiim wrote:ALT2 acc wrote:atim, it doesn't matter how many weapons the heavy has it has to be balanced, the HMG will get a fix SoonGäó and it cant be best at both, like blasters are I'm not a Forge Gun specialist. That's KING CHECKMATE's department. And when I use heavies, it's on my brother's account. I'm not qualified to make a decision so I will say "No Contest". I've had tanks i tried to SOLO (yeah yeah i know shush) With my PROTO BREACH FORGE GUN, PROF 5, 2 Cx Damage mods and they take 4 hits to the face like its nothing, and their reppers get them to almost full life while im reloading. heh....(Of course MLT ones usually dont last more than 2. DS fall in 1 shot usually unless they are LLAvs)Well im out to play dust. See you around Dusties. GG....
thats because armor reps are broken and rep too much
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Posted - 2013.12.08 06:03:00 -
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you all have been raped by a brick tankk 1 to many times your minds arepoisoned there is no reasoning with you.
i with i could lock this thread
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Posted - 2013.12.08 06:05:00 -
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ALT2 acc wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Atiim wrote:ALT2 acc wrote:atim, it doesn't matter how many weapons the heavy has it has to be balanced, the HMG will get a fix SoonGäó and it cant be best at both, like blasters are I'm not a Forge Gun specialist. That's KING CHECKMATE's department. And when I use heavies, it's on my brother's account. I'm not qualified to make a decision so I will say "No Contest". I've had tanks i tried to SOLO (yeah yeah i know shush) With my PROTO BREACH FORGE GUN, PROF 5, 2 Cx Damage mods and they take 4 hits to the face like its nothing, and their reppers get them to almost full life while im reloading. heh....(Of course MLT ones usually dont last more than 2. DS fall in 1 shot usually unless they are LLAvs)Well im out to play dust. See you around Dusties. GG.... thats because armor reps are broken and rep too much but if you were on a tower im glad he escaped
I dont tower snipe.
I do however look for a comfty position since im a HEAVY, with a weapon that SUCKS against INFATRY, and i CANT EVEN MOVE while charging it...
@ Soulja Ghostface: Too late, think next time before posting YET ANOTHER Tankr QQ post.
NOW byes for realz, nite atiim...
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.08 06:05:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:have you ever lifted a rock and ound roaches swaming.
lucky you carried bugspray.
have the roaches pulled out a missle launcher on youno.
apply tanks and AV to that situation
Well usually I'm smart enough to spray the bugspray before they start running away.
And you forgot to mention how you can have an active scanner that tells you if there are roaches under the rock.
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Posted - 2013.12.08 06:05:00 -
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damm ps3 char limit
"they kill my Scout and STD gear pretty easily.
And they usually annoy the S**t out of me in closed objectives.So far as killing me or finishing me while i try to flee (this late statement im talking about my regular ADV suits)
Its not the Rocket launcher.Its the driver that cant kill a thing."
when i get 4 hitmarkers, i barely get any damage done, fragmented and accerlerated IDKY |
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Posted - 2013.12.08 06:06:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:you all have been raped by a brick tankk 1 to many times your minds arepoisoned there is no reasoning with you.
i with i could lock this thread
And 99% of pilots have been anally violated by my friend Wyrikomi and Gatsun.
They can't be reasoned with either.
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Posted - 2013.12.08 06:06:00 -
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ALT2 acc wrote:damm ps3 char limit
"they kill my Scout and STD gear pretty easily.
And they usually annoy the S**t out of me in closed objectives.So far as killing me or finishing me while i try to flee (this late statement im talking about my regular ADV suits)
Its not the Rocket launcher.Its the driver that cant kill a thing."
when i get 4 hitmarkers, i barely get any damage done, fragmented and accerlerated IDKY
Well 'ive seen DS pilots kill with 1 only 1 Rocket connecting...
Maybe you need to stop relying so much on SPLASH DAMAGE and get your aim right.
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Posted - 2013.12.08 06:07:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Soulja Ghostface wrote:have you ever lifted a rock and ound roaches swaming.
lucky you carried bugspray.
have the roaches pulled out a missle launcher on youno.
apply tanks and AV to that situation Well usually I'm smart enough to spray the bugspray before they start running away. And you forgot to mention how you can have an active scanner that tells you if there are roaches under the rock.
if it's a maddy, fine pilots fault, if its a gunlogi, well gunlogi's can never do **** |
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