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The dyst0pian Corporation
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Posted - 2013.12.08 01:19:00 -
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you think we vehicle specialists don't use teamwork? we go near our team, defend objectives, help attack objectives and pin enemies down, we get on comms, people spot and tell us where they need assistance or tell enemy vehicle locations, and more.
also a STD it can't solo full proto, every game it takes teamwork to destroy vehicles, and eve big ass ship vs small ship=lose 1V1, and sometimes takes teamwork to take down heavy suits, AV can also use teamwork by comms and can carry a smg. you gotta sacrifice some infantry killing power to get vehicle killing power.
vehicle specialists feel free to add in. |
Ivy Zalinto
Bobbit's Hangmen
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Posted - 2013.12.08 01:22:00 -
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ALT2 acc wrote:you think we vehicle specialists don't use teamwork? we go near our team, defend objectives, help attack objectives and pin enemies down, we get on comms, people spot and tell us where they need assistance or tell enemy vehicle locations, and more.
also a STD it can't solo full proto, every game it takes teamwork to destroy vehicles, and eve big ass ship vs small ship=lose 1V1, and sometimes takes teamwork to take down heavy suits, AV can also use teamwork by comms and can carry a smg. you gotta sacrifice some infantry killing power to get vehicle killing power.
vehicle specialists feel free to add in.
No sacrifice in killing power actually. I main scrambler pistols on my scout and promise you I could fit a swarm of some kind on my suit.
Dedicated scout.
Player bodyguard
Pistol supremacy.
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ALT2 acc
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
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Posted - 2013.12.08 01:27:00 -
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Ivy Zalinto wrote:ALT2 acc wrote:you think we vehicle specialists don't use teamwork? we go near our team, defend objectives, help attack objectives and pin enemies down, we get on comms, people spot and tell us where they need assistance or tell enemy vehicle locations, and more.
also a STD it can't solo full proto, every game it takes teamwork to destroy vehicles, and eve big ass ship vs small ship=lose 1V1, and sometimes takes teamwork to take down heavy suits, AV can also use teamwork by comms and can carry a smg. you gotta sacrifice some infantry killing power to get vehicle killing power.
vehicle specialists feel free to add in. No sacrifice in killing power actually. I main scrambler pistols on my scout and promise you I could fit a swarm of some kind on my suit.
ok
alot of AV'rs moan they cant kill infantry with a av fit they're lying, i kill with MLT smg |
Baal Roo
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.12.08 01:32:00 -
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Anyone who tells you forge guns aren't one of the most powerful anti-infantry weapons in the game is either extremely terrible at the game or is lying. |
ALT2 acc
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
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Posted - 2013.12.08 01:36:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:Anyone who tells you forge guns aren't one of the most powerful anti-infantry weapons in the game is either extremely terrible at the game or is lying.
plus they can fit a smg and stop QQ "i cant kill infantry so i must 1 shot vehicles" |
Tch Tch
Red Shirts Away Team
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Posted - 2013.12.08 01:39:00 -
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Was playing againsta group of murder taxis and derpships in ambush 4 vs 4.
So I went taxi hailing with a starter AV. The AV hail got a sentinels attention and when he got out to help me with my carry bag I tipped him with my militia scambler pistol. He decided to get back into his taxi, then after I hailed him again he jumped back out. Tip er tap to the top and suddenly I had no driver. Probably should have blown up the bright yellow cab with all its modules for the scrap iskies. Instead got in and did donuts all over the map.
Yes most STD do much better then a MLT. But when my newberry starter kit kills your heavy specialist and steals your cab I believe it is much sweeter. Of course all things work better in teamwork and specialists really shine in a combined arms scenario.
Turrent - the sound a tankers pants makes when he finds out the four swarm militia doing squats around him aren't AFK.
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ALT2 acc
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
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Posted - 2013.12.08 01:45:00 -
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Tch Tch wrote:Was playing againsta group of murder taxis and derpships in ambush 4 vs 4.
So I went taxi hailing with a starter AV. The AV hail got a sentinels attention and when he got out to help me with my carry bag I tipped him with my militia scambler pistol. He decided to get back into his taxi, then after I hailed him again he jumped back out. Tip er tap to the top and suddenly I had no driver. Probably should have blown up the bright yellow cab with all its modules for the scrap iskies. Instead got in and did donuts all over the map.
Yes most STD do much better then a MLT. But when my newberry starter kit kills your heavy specialist and steals your cab I believe it is much sweeter. Of course all things work better in teamwork and specialists really shine in a combined arms scenario.
ok?
i turrent alot near pro swarms, i mean TURRENT, heck hardeners dont help, especially igr rep |
Tch Tch
Red Shirts Away Team
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Posted - 2013.12.08 01:55:00 -
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With the changes happening to range ironically I think it will make more AVers be nearer the action and ergo nearer other players. Teamwork via proximity. Of course the real danger in a protoswarmer is they have a much greater chance of using comms, being in a squad and being able to go 1vs1 with their backup weapon.
Turrent - the sound a tankers pants makes when he finds out the four swarm militia doing squats around him aren't AFK.
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Thurak1
Psygod9
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.12.08 02:04:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:Anyone who tells you forge guns aren't one of the most powerful anti-infantry weapons in the game is either extremely terrible at the game or is lying.
forge guns are crap as anti infantry compared to a AR. Sure we can kill 1 person then we have to recharge thats at least 1.5 seconds and then its only 4 shots per clip. When comparing to even a militia AR thats pretty crappy killing power especially if the forge gun misses a round or 2. |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.08 02:28:00 -
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LOL
Now what part of that are you actually required to to do?
Please don't make the HAV community look like even more of a bigger fool.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.08 02:30:00 -
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ALT2 acc wrote:
ok
alot of AV'rs moan they cant kill infantry with a av fit they're lying, i kill with MLT smg
Yeah I'd love to see you try to kill me with a MLT SMG when I have a Duvolle AR.
And you don't have good Base HP or Sidearm Damage mods.
All you have are heavy or light weapon damage mods, and CPU extenders.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.08 02:31:00 -
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Ivy Zalinto wrote:ALT2 acc wrote:you think we vehicle specialists don't use teamwork? we go near our team, defend objectives, help attack objectives and pin enemies down, we get on comms, people spot and tell us where they need assistance or tell enemy vehicle locations, and more.
also a STD it can't solo full proto, every game it takes teamwork to destroy vehicles, and eve big ass ship vs small ship=lose 1V1, and sometimes takes teamwork to take down heavy suits, AV can also use teamwork by comms and can carry a smg. you gotta sacrifice some infantry killing power to get vehicle killing power.
vehicle specialists feel free to add in. No sacrifice in killing power actually. I main scrambler pistols on my scout and promise you I could fit a swarm of some kind on my suit.
Okay
Let's see you fit an Ishukone Assault Swarm Launcher on your good scout fit.
I wanna see this.
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ALT2 acc
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
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Posted - 2013.12.08 02:52:00 -
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Atiim wrote:LOL
Now what part of that are you actually required to to do?
Please don't make the HAV community look like even more of a bigger fool.
you dont HAVE to, but it makes you survive better and probably die without, while all you av have to do is
hold R1
release R1
hold R1
release R1
move right stick 0.1cm
repeat til +150 |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.08 02:54:00 -
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ALT2 acc wrote:Atiim wrote:LOL
Now what part of that are you actually required to to do?
Please don't make the HAV community look like even more of a bigger fool. you dont HAVE to, but it makes you survive better and probably die without, while all you av have to do is hold R1 release R1 hold R1 release R1 move right stick 0.1cm repeat til +150
That's exactly how you kill crowds of infantry
Except you repeat until you get +50s instead of +150s
Turrets are also stupid easy to use
What's your point?
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ALT2 acc
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
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Posted - 2013.12.08 02:57:00 -
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Atiim wrote:ALT2 acc wrote:Atiim wrote:LOL
Now what part of that are you actually required to to do?
Please don't make the HAV community look like even more of a bigger fool. you dont HAVE to, but it makes you survive better and probably die without, while all you av have to do is hold R1 release R1 hold R1 release R1 move right stick 0.1cm repeat til +150 That's exactly how you kill crowds of infantry Except you repeat until you get +50s instead of +150s Turrets are also stupid easy to use What's your point?
infantry has better hit detection. plus i do the above with a mix of av nades.
if you cant stand good tank then lower damage of blasters vs infantry to 70 at STD or 80 |
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The dyst0pian Corporation
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Posted - 2013.12.08 02:58:00 -
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Atiim wrote:ALT2 acc wrote:Atiim wrote:LOL
Now what part of that are you actually required to to do?
Please don't make the HAV community look like even more of a bigger fool. you dont HAVE to, but it makes you survive better and probably die without, while all you av have to do is hold R1 release R1 hold R1 release R1 move right stick 0.1cm repeat til +150 That's exactly how you kill crowds of infantry Except you repeat until you get +50s instead of +150s Turrets are also stupid easy to use What's your point?
infantry has better hit detection. plus i do the above with a mix of av nades.
if you cant stand good tank then lower damage of blasters vs infantry to 70 at STD or 80 |
Shokhann Echo
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Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.12.08 03:30:00 -
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Atiim wrote:LOL
Now what part of that are you actually required to to do?
Please don't make the HAV community look like even more of a bigger fool.
youv actually made a fool out of yourself by your history here
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.08 03:35:00 -
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Shokhann Echo wrote:Atiim wrote:LOL
Now what part of that are you actually required to to do?
Please don't make the HAV community look like even more of a bigger fool. youv actually made a fool out of yourself by your history here
Sadly unlike the pilots; everything I've said is true.
And I don't think you've been reading comments from pilots' if you think they haven't made fools of themselves.
Asking to be the only counter to themselves? Really? Sometimes I wonder if they say that just so I can make them look like an idiot.
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Shokhann Echo
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Posted - 2013.12.08 03:42:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Shokhann Echo wrote:Atiim wrote:LOL
Now what part of that are you actually required to to do?
Please don't make the HAV community look like even more of a bigger fool. youv actually made a fool out of yourself by your history here Sadly unlike the pilots; everything I've said is true. And I don't think you've been reading comments from pilots' if you think they haven't made fools of themselves. Asking to be the only counter to themselves? Really? Sometimes I wonder if they say that just so I can make them look like an idiot.
since when the **** does spkr represent all of us? lol I don't even recognize almost half of the "pilots" that post here now.. most of us have gone to other games or have gone silent and gotten over the vehicle class in its death.
your completely ass backwards dude, everything pilots have ever said is true, weve always backed up our arguments with math, pictures and other proof. I don't believe youv done that in the 6 months youv been here..
we don't want to be the only counter to ourselves, we want to be the best counter to ourselves WHICH POINT OF SKILLING INTO VEHICLES. TO BE THE BEST COUNTER TO OURSELVES, WITH AV LIKE IT IS NOW THERES NO POINT IN VEHICLES EXISTING.
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Xender17
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.12.08 04:18:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Shokhann Echo wrote:Atiim wrote:LOL
Now what part of that are you actually required to to do?
Please don't make the HAV community look like even more of a bigger fool. youv actually made a fool out of yourself by your history here Sadly unlike the pilots; everything I've said is true. And I don't think you've been reading comments from pilots' if you think they haven't made fools of themselves. Asking to be the only counter to themselves? Really? Sometimes I wonder if they say that just so I can make them look like an idiot.
That's less than 15% of vehicle users.
Something people don't realize is that vehicles and infantry isn't just vehicles versus infantry when it comes to arguments.
With vehicles it could be
Madrugar vs Gunnlogi opinions argument
With infantry it could be
Is the Scr/AR OP or not?
No one person or % of the infantry/vehicles player base speaks on behalf of everyone in an argument.
When someone states "that the only counter to vehicles should be vehicles" that is THEIR opinion not mine not at least 50% of vehicle users.
I know that SL don't speak on behalf FGs. FGs are heavies so of course they don't.
So I want others to realize that vehicles have separations too.
Prt SL, SCR, SR . ADV FGs, MDs, LaZor, KNs.
Gunnlogi, Falchion, Python, Caldari LDS. (+require)
Prt L. Am, Adv HVY, LGS
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The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
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Posted - 2013.12.08 04:18:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Shokhann Echo wrote:Atiim wrote:LOL
Now what part of that are you actually required to to do?
Please don't make the HAV community look like even more of a bigger fool. youv actually made a fool out of yourself by your history here Sadly unlike the pilots; everything I've said is true. And I don't think you've been reading comments from pilots' if you think they haven't made fools of themselves. Asking to be the only counter to themselves? Really? Sometimes I wonder if they say that just so I can make them look like an idiot.
your an idiot Atim, learn to read
we say we want tanks to be the BEST counter, BUT not the only counter. you AV are full of retards, it seems, or get glasses |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.08 04:21:00 -
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ALT2 acc wrote:Atiim wrote:Shokhann Echo wrote:Atiim wrote:LOL
Now what part of that are you actually required to to do?
Please don't make the HAV community look like even more of a bigger fool. youv actually made a fool out of yourself by your history here Sadly unlike the pilots; everything I've said is true. And I don't think you've been reading comments from pilots' if you think they haven't made fools of themselves. Asking to be the only counter to themselves? Really? Sometimes I wonder if they say that just so I can make them look like an idiot. your an idiot Atim, learn to read we say we want tanks to be the BEST counter, BUT not the only counter. you AV are full of retards, it seems, or get glasses
You must not have been here for the last HAV thread.
Hold on while I search for it.
Also, you still can't be the best counter to yourselves. that is a problem.
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ALT2 acc
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
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Posted - 2013.12.08 04:24:00 -
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Atiim wrote:ALT2 acc wrote:Atiim wrote:Shokhann Echo wrote:Atiim wrote:LOL
Now what part of that are you actually required to to do?
Please don't make the HAV community look like even more of a bigger fool. youv actually made a fool out of yourself by your history here Sadly unlike the pilots; everything I've said is true. And I don't think you've been reading comments from pilots' if you think they haven't made fools of themselves. Asking to be the only counter to themselves? Really? Sometimes I wonder if they say that just so I can make them look like an idiot. your an idiot Atim, learn to read we say we want tanks to be the BEST counter, BUT not the only counter. you AV are full of retards, it seems, or get glasses You must not have been here for the last HAV thread. Hold on while I lie Also, you still can't be the best counter to yourselves. that is a problem.
oh really? GTFO to COD or HTFU. it's "balance" big machine vs big machine with big Firepower |
Ivy Zalinto
Bobbit's Hangmen
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Posted - 2013.12.08 04:42:00 -
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ALT2 acc wrote:Ivy Zalinto wrote:ALT2 acc wrote:you think we vehicle specialists don't use teamwork? we go near our team, defend objectives, help attack objectives and pin enemies down, we get on comms, people spot and tell us where they need assistance or tell enemy vehicle locations, and more.
also a STD it can't solo full proto, every game it takes teamwork to destroy vehicles, and eve big ass ship vs small ship=lose 1V1, and sometimes takes teamwork to take down heavy suits, AV can also use teamwork by comms and can carry a smg. you gotta sacrifice some infantry killing power to get vehicle killing power.
vehicle specialists feel free to add in. No sacrifice in killing power actually. I main scrambler pistols on my scout and promise you I could fit a swarm of some kind on my suit. ok alot of AV'rs moan they cant kill infantry with a av fit they're lying, i kill with MLT smg
Exactly. They cant complain to me. My heaviest tanked suit has 176 armor and 80 shield...complain when you have a 10th of a second combat time. Against a militia player. If im n cqc their likely dead but anything past 20 meters is kind of a toss up with my primary weapon....
Dedicated scout.
Player bodyguard
Pistol supremacy.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.12.08 04:45:00 -
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Ivy Zalinto wrote:ALT2 acc wrote:Ivy Zalinto wrote:ALT2 acc wrote:you think we vehicle specialists don't use teamwork? we go near our team, defend objectives, help attack objectives and pin enemies down, we get on comms, people spot and tell us where they need assistance or tell enemy vehicle locations, and more.
also a STD it can't solo full proto, every game it takes teamwork to destroy vehicles, and eve big ass ship vs small ship=lose 1V1, and sometimes takes teamwork to take down heavy suits, AV can also use teamwork by comms and can carry a smg. you gotta sacrifice some infantry killing power to get vehicle killing power.
vehicle specialists feel free to add in. No sacrifice in killing power actually. I main scrambler pistols on my scout and promise you I could fit a swarm of some kind on my suit. ok alot of AV'rs moan they cant kill infantry with a av fit they're lying, i kill with MLT smg Exactly. They cant complain to me. My heaviest tanked suit has 176 armor and 80 shield...complain when you have a 10th of a second combat time. Against a militia player. If im n cqc their likely dead but anything past 20 meters is kind of a toss up with my primary weapon....
I assume you use a PLC right?
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.12.08 04:56:00 -
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ALT2 acc wrote:
oh really? GTFO to COD or HTFU. it's "balance" big machine vs big machine with big Firepower
Hold on while I finsih laughing at an obviously scrubby pilot telling me to HTFU when they themselves QQ everytime something other than a vehicle destroy them.
So by that logic, I should be able to kill a scout in half a second with a MLT AR?
Being big and having lots of firepower does not constitute being better at Anti-Vehicle than Anti-Vehicle itself. That's like making a heavy better at being a Scout than a Scout.
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ALT2 acc
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
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Posted - 2013.12.08 05:07:00 -
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Atiim wrote:ALT2 acc wrote:
oh really? GTFO to COD or HTFU. it's "balance" big machine vs big machine with big Firepower
Hold on while I finsih laughing at an obviously scrubby pilot telling me to HTFU when they themselves QQ everytime something other than a vehicle destroy them. So by that logic, I should be able to kill a scout in half a second with a MLT AR? Being big and having lots of firepower does not constitute being better at Anti-Vehicle than Anti-Vehicle itself. That's like making a heavy better at being a Scout than a Scout.
actually i do that all the time, and thats infantry vs infantry, im saying tanks should be more effective due to the bigger guns, sooo...yea, you can get a MLT tank and MLT rail idc as long as its a tank with the firepower required that isnt camping an unreachable area im fine, as not every infantry uses tanks like AV nor can they |
DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2013.12.08 05:17:00 -
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Deal is you reduce your HP. You do this because you have to run CPU and PG mods. Plus AV grenades.
This is mostly an issue on Swarm Fits that try to get the best performance out of the Swarm Launcher.
Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
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Quil Evrything
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.12.08 05:23:00 -
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Atiim wrote:
Also, you still can't be the best counter to yourselves. that is a problem.
Exactly.
Really, in many ways, a heavy turret installation is a great counter to a tank....
except the asshats get to WIPE EM ALL OUT WITHIN THE FIRST 5 MINUTES OF THE GAME!!!
At the moment, seems like the primary reason for turrets existing, is simply to provide WP to tank players.
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ALT2 acc
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
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Posted - 2013.12.08 05:28:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:Atiim wrote:
Also, you still can't be the best counter to yourselves. that is a problem.
Exactly. Really, in many ways, a heavy turret installation is a great counter to a tank.... except the asshats get to WIPE EM ALL OUT WITHIN THE FIRST 5 MINUTES OF THE GAME!!! At the moment, seems like the primary reason for turrets existing, is simply to provide WP to tank players.
i destroy them so they dont kill me later |
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