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Harpyja
DUST University Ivy League
878
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Posted - 2013.12.08 05:41:00 -
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Thurak1 wrote:Baal Roo wrote:Anyone who tells you forge guns aren't one of the most powerful anti-infantry weapons in the game is either extremely terrible at the game or is lying. forge guns are crap as anti infantry compared to a AR. Sure we can kill 1 person then we have to recharge thats at least 1.5 seconds and then its only 4 shots per clip. When comparing to even a militia AR thats pretty crappy killing power especially if the forge gun misses a round or 2. If you're within AR range, you're doing it wrong. Rooftop forges are the way to go. Unfortunately, that's bad news for me.
"By His light, and His will"
- The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
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Quil Evrything
DUST University Ivy League
484
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Posted - 2013.12.08 06:08:00 -
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ALT2 acc wrote:Quil Evrything wrote:
Really, in many ways, a heavy turret installation is a great counter to a tank.... except the asshats get to WIPE EM ALL OUT WITHIN THE FIRST 5 MINUTES OF THE GAME!!!
At the moment, seems like the primary reason for turrets existing, is simply to provide WP to tank players.
i destroy them so they dont kill me later
and you've just confirmed everything I said. Thank you.
i think a huge improvement would be to make unhacked turrets active, insofar as self defense.
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ALT2 acc
The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day
14
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Posted - 2013.12.08 06:12:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:ALT2 acc wrote:Quil Evrything wrote:
Really, in many ways, a heavy turret installation is a great counter to a tank.... except the asshats get to WIPE EM ALL OUT WITHIN THE FIRST 5 MINUTES OF THE GAME!!!
At the moment, seems like the primary reason for turrets existing, is simply to provide WP to tank players.
i destroy them so they dont kill me later and you've just confirmed everything I said. Thank you. i think a huge improvement would be to make unhacked turrets active, insofar as self defense. they'll die either way, its bad enough they rail snipe |
Shokhann Echo
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
119
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Posted - 2013.12.08 07:07:00 -
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Atiim wrote:ALT2 acc wrote: oh really? GTFO to COD or HTFU. it's "balance" big machine vs big machine with big Firepower
Hold on while I finsih laughing at an obviously scrubby pilot telling me to HTFU when they themselves QQ everytime something other than a vehicle destroy them. So by that logic, I should be able to kill a scout in half a second with a MLT AR? Being big and having lots of firepower does not constitute being better at Anti-Vehicle than Anti-Vehicle itself. That's like making a heavy better at being a Scout than a Scout.
by your logic a scout should be able to annihilate an entire squad of heavies within 5 seconds.
funny because since open beta, being a tanker is like a lone scout running into a building full of heavies and we all know how that turns out
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THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD Public Disorder.
370
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Posted - 2013.12.08 07:21:00 -
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I wouldn't call it teamwork. More or less relying on our team for support. We can't push objectives without infantry and if there is a pesky swarmer who just can't be hit by the blaster they'll need to be dealt with.
Tanks are honestly extremely easy to solo unless they have good infantry support. Someone able to call out that they are suicide AV LAVs at you and to help gun them down. Those are the tanks people say they have issues popping.
I still fall back and say one guy AVing a tank constantly should be enough that if he backs up (within 2 or 3 seconds) to a safe place he survives. Same with two, because they suppressed him.
There is way too much BLOW EVERYTHING UP and KILL EVERYTHING and not enough suppressive fire, hold them back.
ZionTCD Director & Ammar Loyalist
Amarr Sentinel | Amarr Logi | Losematar Scout
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Gelan Corbaine
Gladiators Vanguard
228
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Posted - 2013.12.08 14:34:00 -
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Harpyja wrote: If you're within AR range, you're doing it wrong. Rooftop forges are the way to go. Unfortunately, that's bad news for me.
Heavies don't magically appear on Rooftops at the beginning of games . And when he does get up there ...without support he'll rapidly find himself facing ammo problems not to mention being sniper bait ...
No job is worth doing if you don't get paid in the end .
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Gelan Corbaine
Gladiators Vanguard
228
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Posted - 2013.12.08 14:45:00 -
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THUNDERGROOVE wrote:I wouldn't call it teamwork. More or less relying on our team for support. We can't push objectives without infantry and if there is a pesky swarmer who just can't be hit by the blaster they'll need to be dealt with.
Tanks are honestly extremely easy to solo unless they have good infantry support. Someone able to call out that they are suicide AV LAVs at you and to help gun them down. Those are the tanks people say they have issues popping.
I still fall back and say one guy AVing a tank constantly should be enough that if he backs up (within 2 or 3 seconds) to a safe place he survives. Same with two, because they suppressed him.
There is way too much BLOW EVERYTHING UP and KILL EVERYTHING and not enough suppressive fire, hold them back.
That's unfortunately because .....that's the only way we get paid . We have to be able to afford to do our job . The only way for AV to do that is to kill things .... ( Well PC and SL's may get a little extra from their equipment slots )
If AVers got paid for suppressing ...they might not gripe as much over a damage nerf . Heck I would find suppressing a heck of a lot safer than sometimes the suicidal lengths I have to go through to get a kill .
No job is worth doing if you don't get paid in the end .
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THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD Public Disorder.
374
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Posted - 2013.12.09 00:44:00 -
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Gelan Corbaine wrote: That's unfortunately because .....that's the only way we get paid . We have to be able to afford to do our job . The only way for AV to do that is to kill things .... ( Well PC and SL's may get a little extra from their equipment slots )
If AVers got paid for suppressing ...they might not gripe as much over a damage nerf . Heck I would find suppressing a heck of a lot safer than sometimes the suicidal lengths I have to go through to get a kill .
I've been saying since Uprising came out that the 150 points for a tank destruction is too much. Suppressing the tank should be the reward
ZionTCD Director & Ammar Loyalist
Amarr Sentinel | Amarr Logi | Losematar Scout
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
2519
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Posted - 2013.12.09 00:51:00 -
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ALT2 acc wrote:Atiim wrote:LOL
Now what part of that are you actually required to to do?
Please don't make the HAV community look like even more of a bigger fool. you dont HAVE to, but it makes you survive better and probably die without, while all you av have to do is hold R1 release R1 hold R1 release R1 move right stick 0.1cm repeat til +150
If that's what it takes to destroy your tanks, then other tankers ought to disown you.
No.
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
8502
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Posted - 2013.12.09 00:52:00 -
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AV OP
Only team I need is my LAV 'n' me
Win ISK / Vids / O7
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ALT2 acc
The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day
18
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Posted - 2013.12.09 06:08:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:ALT2 acc wrote:Atiim wrote:LOL
Now what part of that are you actually required to to do?
Please don't make the HAV community look like even more of a bigger fool. you dont HAVE to, but it makes you survive better and probably die without, while all you av have to do is hold R1 release R1 hold R1 release R1 move right stick 0.1cm repeat til +150 If that's what it takes to destroy your tanks, then other tankers ought to disown you. gunlogi's are slow as **** and thats what i do when i use overpowered AV |
Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2813
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Posted - 2013.12.09 21:30:00 -
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ALT2 acc wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:ALT2 acc wrote:Atiim wrote:LOL
Now what part of that are you actually required to to do?
Please don't make the HAV community look like even more of a bigger fool. you dont HAVE to, but it makes you survive better and probably die without, while all you av have to do is hold R1 release R1 hold R1 release R1 move right stick 0.1cm repeat til +150 If that's what it takes to destroy your tanks, then other tankers ought to disown you. gunlogi's are slow as **** and thats what i do when i use overpowered AV
Exactly, this process works quite well for me and my corp mates. When it's time to be lazy and get easy WP, it's time to bring in your AV fitting and lazily destroy every enemy vehicle on the field with ease. |
Benjamin Ciscko
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
294
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Posted - 2013.12.09 21:37:00 -
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Atiim wrote:ALT2 acc wrote: ok alot of AV'rs moan they cant kill infantry with a av fit they're lying, i kill with MLT smg
Yeah I'd love to see you try to kill me with a MLT SMG when I have a Duvolle AR. And you don't have good Base HP or Sidearm Damage mods. All you have are heavy or light weapon damage mods, and CPU extenders. Take my LAV or LLAV out with a duvolle
Tanker/Logi
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry. -Spkr4theDead
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1788
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Posted - 2013.12.09 21:40:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:Atiim wrote:ALT2 acc wrote: ok alot of AV'rs moan they cant kill infantry with a av fit they're lying, i kill with MLT smg
Yeah I'd love to see you try to kill me with a MLT SMG when I have a Duvolle AR. And you don't have good Base HP or Sidearm Damage mods. All you have are heavy or light weapon damage mods, and CPU extenders. Take my LAV or LLAV out with a duvolle Why?
The only way I'd try to take out your LAV is if you attempted to run me over. Which I can guarantee won't end well for you.
[edit] Why would I want or even attempt to destroy a vehicle with an AR?
My Very First Thread About Tanks
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Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
608
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Posted - 2013.12.10 00:32:00 -
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ALT2 acc wrote:eve big ass ship vs small ship=lose 1V1 You should try Eve some time ... it's a good game. |
Quil Evrything
DUST University Ivy League
494
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Posted - 2013.12.10 00:37:00 -
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THUNDERGROOVE wrote: Tanks are honestly extremely easy to solo unless they have good infantry support.
oh, BULLoney. Maybe garbage militia tanks with a clueless newb fitting and driving them, sure. but for your average madrugar on the pub field I run into, they're pretty much impossible for anything less than proto 1,000 shield, 6,000 armor.
I fire ADV swarms at them, round after round. It takes me something like 4 solid hits of my swarms, maybe with an AV grenade tossed in too, to get them down to HALF. And then what happens? All they have to do is just drive away, which they can easily do. Within a few seconds, they are out of range/out of sight of my swarms.
So: solo-scare away a decent tank that doesnt have infantry support? sure
solo KILL a decent tank with anything less than proto AV gear?
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