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Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.12.08 00:54:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Actually you are wrong on a few things:
-Gallante Scouts are not any more stealthy than Minmatar Scouts because they both have 45 suit precision and both have the same "-5% suit profile per level".
-Dampeners don't have stacking penalties
-Logi's can use CPU and PG skills to still run everything
Actually, YOU are wrong.
- Gallente scouts can ONLY beat the 15 dB scanner if they use 4x complex profile dampeners, which is what I said. Minmatar proto scouts only have 2 low slots, therefore they can't fit FOUR dampeners. Does this make sense to you or do I need to draw a diagram?
- Dampeners DO have stacking penalties. Confirmed through various in game tests by many people, and with CCP via a ticket I sent. Where are YOU basing your information?
- Of course, logis can use CPU/PG upgrades, but at cost to survivability because *gasp* they use low slots, where your armor is supposed to go! So if you force three logis to use a piece of equipment that eats up 19 PG and requires either a PG upgrade or downgrading other modules on their suit, then their overall effectiveness is reduced. Particularly since three of them need to take turns scanning to give constant intel on your location.
The way scouts whine, there should be people using multiple Duvolle Focused scanners in every match. I highly, highly doubt this is the case.
And if you're scanned by anything less in a scout suit, you deserve to be obliterated. |
Xender17
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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Posted - 2013.12.08 00:59:00 -
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+1 Scout being beatin so easily by everything else in the role its supposed to be best is lame.
What the fox say?
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
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Posted - 2013.12.08 01:02:00 -
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Useless to waste a low slot for some dampeners when they don't even work and i have to invest 1 mil SP in it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MY KEYBOARDS ARE ON FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Assassination is my thing.
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2013.12.08 01:08:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Actually you are wrong on a few things:
-Gallante Scouts are not any more stealthy than Minmatar Scouts because they both have 45 suit precision and both have the same "-5% suit profile per level".
-Dampeners don't have stacking penalties
-Logi's can use CPU and PG skills to still run everything
Actually, YOU are wrong. - Gallente scouts can ONLY beat the 15 dB scanner if they use 4x complex profile dampeners, which is what I said. Minmatar proto scouts only have 2 low slots, therefore they can't fit FOUR dampeners. Does this make sense to you or do I need to draw a diagram? - Dampeners DO have stacking penalties. Confirmed through various in game tests by many people, and with CCP via a ticket I sent. Where are YOU basing your information? - Of course, logis can use CPU/PG upgrades, but at cost to survivability because *gasp* they use low slots, where your armor is supposed to go! So if you force three logis to use a piece of equipment that eats up 19 PG and requires either a PG upgrade or downgrading other modules on their suit, then their overall effectiveness is reduced. Particularly since three of them need to take turns scanning to give constant intel on your location. The way scouts whine, there should be people using multiple Duvolle Focused scanners in every match. I highly, highly doubt this is the case. And if you're scanned by anything less in a scout suit, you deserve to be obliterated. If this is the case, then {removes glasses} it is worse than we thought.
Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
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Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.12.08 11:38:00 -
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Aztec, are you a scout with Lvl 5 in the skill? If so, get Profile Dampening Lvl 2 and put one basic or militia dampener on your suit. Then come back and tell us how often you get scanned in pubs or in PC. |
Bad Heal
Pradox One Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2013.12.08 13:06:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:Cenex Langly wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:It is ridiculous that just one equipment, active scanners, can completely make scouts useless. Particularly at the Proto Level, where a scout with max proficiency in all dampening skills needs to run a Complex Dampener + Another Dampener.
Two slots used already. That is one slot to many.
The Scout at max skills should be able to avoid all scanners with no more than one Complex Dampener.
Who dares agree! put two complex profile dampners and stop being a freaking noob about it. That will stop you from getting scanned from everything but the proto "FOCUSED" scanner. And guess what bro-ham. NO ONE USES THAT ONE EVER. So you're good. Be stealth and stop qqing This is so incorrect and ignorant in so many ways. First of all, using every single low slot you have for stealth modules makes your choices for tanking very small. You can't fit codebreakers to help hack objectives, armor plates to beef up your already redicilously small HP, an armor repairer to give you some survivability out of combat, biotic modules to make you run faster and longer to survive encounters. Nope, you can't do any of that, simply to avoid a single or a few people with a prototype level scanner, which makes the entire stealth aspect of your suit useless. And you can't be more incorrect about the Focused scanners. As soon as people start noticing that there's a scout who can avoid the proto scanner, they instantly switch to the focused one just to find you and kill you easily with their stupid logi suits using Duvolle ARs and have a 1000 eHP. You see, stealth is broken in this game, and grossly unbalanced towards active scanners. The fact that you have to waste over 5 million SP on scout suit levels and maxing out your profile dampening skill, and waste two slots to complex profile dampeners, maybe even a few million more SP to electronics and engineering just to make those complex dampeners fit, while you only need 1.5 million SP for an active scanner and one equipment slot, which the logi suits have at least three, and can make all that SP spent on boosting your stealth useless. Get your facts right next time.
So the fastest suit should be total stealth and tank as well? I've play with and against stealth scouts, good and bad. The problem is that you're a scout.
Scouts need help and total stealth is not the right kind of help. This would only create a new FOTM.
I feel for the scout. I hope help arrives soon |
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