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Alldin Kan Imperfects Negative-Feedback 818	Posted - 2013.12.07 01:12:00 - [1] - Quote A "support" suit that's able to have more firepower and health than Assault doesn't belong in this game. Here are examples for the impaired: Logistics MK.0 or CK.0 with 4-5 damage mods on AV or sniper and 450+ armor. Logistics GK.0 with 3 damage mods, 700+ Armor, and multiple Triage nanohives. CCP, promoting exploits with every update LOL Commando LOL Plasma Cannon
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 598	Posted - 2013.12.07 01:27:00 - [2] - Quote This is the way to nerf my suit. Don't go and put that cap on WP again. PLEASE don't do that. My logi-code.
Cosgar ParagonX 8434	Posted - 2013.12.07 01:30:00 - [3] - Quote Or they could wimpy fix TTK on light weapons so that sidearms and speed differences are more relevant than they aren't right now. Nerfing the current OP thing while core mechanics are still broken will just make all the tryhards flock to the next FOTM, they'll have to nerf that and the cycle will continue. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 1995	Posted - 2013.12.07 01:31:00 - [4] - Quote So it continues...
Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 956	Posted - 2013.12.07 01:31:00 - [5] - Quote why not buff the assault suits high low slow count to equal the logi's and buff the pg and cpu to fit modules to them
Justin Tymes Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 534	Posted - 2013.12.07 01:32:00 - [6] - Quote Any suit using more than 3 damage mods is a bad suit.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 2199	Posted - 2013.12.07 01:33:00 - [7] - Quote Not slot reductions or increases necessarily. Bonus changes and buffing CPU/PG on assault suits Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 2119	Posted - 2013.12.07 01:34:00 - [8] - Quote I'd rather they keep the survivability of the logistics, giving it a bonus to equipment usage, and give more offensive bonuses to the assaults. Haven't we had this convo? // Adapt or Die // Matari Logistics / Scout / Dropship Crash Tester // @ReesNoturana
Cosgar ParagonX 8434	Posted - 2013.12.07 01:34:00 - [9] - Quote ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote: This is the way to nerf my suit. Don't go and put that cap on WP again. PLEASE don't do that. Actually, they should nerf WP on militia, standard and advanced equipment to add more incentive to use prototype. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
nor asha Turbo Bros inc. 58	Posted - 2013.12.07 01:35:00 - [10] - Quote All proto logis should get 2 less slots and a free fitting bonus to fit equipment in the 3/4 lows The logis with only 3 equipment should have more H/L slots than the other logis that's just fair. Heavy suits and scouts should get more slots.

Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 1194	Posted - 2013.12.07 01:38:00 - [11] - Quote Lol Amarr logo ain't up there :-) "The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
God Hates Lags Red Star. EoN. 523	Posted - 2013.12.07 01:38:00 - [12] - Quote Cosgar wrote: ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote: This is the way to nerf my suit. Don't go and put that cap on WP again. PLEASE don't do that. Actually, they should nerf WP on militia, standard and advanced equipment to add more incentive to use prototype. No. WP should be awarded for effectively using equipment be it militia or proto, not for using better equipment in general. The increased effectiveness of pro to equipment should be its own reward. Doubles ISK
Cosgar ParagonX 8434	Posted - 2013.12.07 01:40:00 - [13] - Quote nor asha wrote: All proto logis should get 2 less slots and a free fitting bonus to fit equipment in the 3/4 lows The logis with only 3 equipment should have more H/L slots than the other logis that's just fair. Heavy suits and scouts should get more slots. All logis have the same slot count across the tiers with more or less module/equipment slots to reflect that already. Amarr is the only one with one less because of the sidearm. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 4888	Posted - 2013.12.07 01:48:00 - [14] - Quote Slot counts are not the problem. Never forget How to fix the Logi
Alldin Kan Imperfects Negative-Feedback 821	Posted - 2013.12.07 01:52:00 - [15] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Or they could simply fix TTK on light weapons so that sidearms and speed differences are more relevant than they aren't right now. Nerfing the current OP thing while core mechanics are still broken will just make all the tryhards flock to the next FOTM, they'll have to nerf that and the cycle will continue. It's time you stop posting... TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Slot counts are not the problem. Yes it is, that's where all the excessive HP/Damage comes from. CCP, promoting exploits with every update LOL Commando LOL Plasma Cannon
Cosgar ParagonX 8434	Posted - 2013.12.07 01:53:00 - [16] - Quote God Hates Lags wrote: Cosgar wrote: ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote: This is the way to nerf my suit. Don't go and put that cap on WP again. PLEASE don't do that. Actually, they should nerf WP on militia, standard and advanced equipment to add more incentive to use prototype. No. WP should be awarded for effectively using equipment be it militia or proto, not for using better equipment in general. The increased effectiveness of pro to equipment should be its own reward. With the exception of triage hives and the core repper (which actually prorate triage points) prototype equipment actually gets less WP rewards. The proto injector gets rarely used because of this. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 1492	Posted - 2013.12.07 01:54:00 - [17] - Quote Diversify. Change Logi to 2 Equipment, Light and Sidearm, with 1 less H/L slot than its Assault Variant. Create a 3 Equipment, No grenade, current Logi weapon slots, Medic Role. (New thought....what if that Medic role, as previously described, was a Light Frame with an inherent 50 HP Armor Rep? After the Scouts get more base HP than a nanohive, of course. The ability to strafe and rep, rush objectives and lay down equipment, dart in with a needle, perimeter scanning...oh *** yes.) Cheeseburgers.
Cosgar ParagonX 8434	Posted - 2013.12.07 01:57:00 - [18] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: It's time you stop posting... It's time you look at the bigger picture instead of just one suit. You don't fix what exploits broken core mechanics without fixing the broken core mechanics. Nobody complains about logis with sidearms, shotguns, plasma cannons, or any other niche weapons, they complain about logis with ARs and ScRs. Other people just complain about ARs and ScRs. See a pattern? I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Mordecai Snake Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 8	Posted - 2013.12.07 02:01:00 - [19] - Quote Logi's should have the most slots. Just remove the abilty for Logi's to use damage mods.
GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1064	Posted - 2013.12.07 02:07:00 - [20] - Quote PLEASE HTFU THANKS. My PS3 is dusty ._. Level 1 Forum Warrior

ReGnYuM Vindictive State 1452	Posted - 2013.12.07 02:08:00 - [21] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: A "support" suit that's able to have more firepower and health than Assault doesn't belong in this game. Here are examples for the impaired: Logistics MK.0 or CK.0 with 4-5 damage mods on AV or sniper and 450+ armor. Logistics GK.0 with 3 damage mods, 700+ Armor, and multiple Triage nanohives. The King has spoken ! Kneel Forum peasants! Kneel! If you never heard of ReGnYuM, you're neither Good or Relevant in Dust 514. KDR>ALL Sig Move: Minmatar Crub Stomp
Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 957	Posted - 2013.12.07 02:13:00 - [22] - Quote Cosgar wrote: God Hates Lags wrote: Cosgar wrote: ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote: This is the way to nerf my suit. Don't go and put that cap on WP again. PLEASE don't do that. Actually, they should nerf WP on militia, standard and advanced equipment to add more incentive to use prototype. No. WP should be awarded for effectively using equipment be it militia or proto, not for using better equipment in general. The increased effectiveness of pro to equipment should be its own reward. With the exception of triage hives and the core repper (which actually prorate triage points) prototype equipment actually gets less WP rewards. The proto injector gets rarely used because of this. true logi's use proto injector and dont care about wp but the safe revive
Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 957	Posted - 2013.12.07 02:14:00 - [23] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: Alldin Kan wrote: A "support" suit that's able to have more firepower and health than Assault doesn't belong in this game. Here are examples for the impaired: Logistics MK.0 or CK.0 with 4-5 damage mods on AV or sniper and 450+ armor. Logistics GK.0 with 3 damage mods, 700+ Armor, and multiple Triage nanohives. The King has spoken ! Kneel Forum peasants! Kneel! please not the amarian Ako was not included ccp dont let the amarian logi catch blow back nerf for the assault logi nerf
Tectonic Fusion 658	Posted - 2013.12.07 02:15:00 - [24] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: I'd rather they keep the survivability of the logistics, giving it a bonus to equipment usage, and give more offensive bonuses to the assaults. Haven't we had this convo? This obviously. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Cosgar ParagonX 8437	Posted - 2013.12.07 02:17:00 - [25] - Quote Mortedeamor wrote: Cosgar wrote: God Hates Lags wrote: Cosgar wrote: ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote: This is the way to nerf my suit. Don't go and put that cap on WP again. PLEASE don't do that. Actually, they should nerf WP on militia, standard and advanced equipment to add more incentive to use prototype. No. WP should be awarded for effectively using equipment be it militia or proto, not for using better equipment in general. The increased effectiveness of pro to equipment should be its own reward. With the exception of triage hives and the core repper (which actually prorate triage points) prototype equipment actually gets less WP rewards. The proto injector gets rarely used because of this. true logi's use proto injector and dont care about wp but the safe revive That throws off risk/reward ratio. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Alldin Kan Imperfects Negative-Feedback 822	Posted - 2013.12.07 02:17:00 - [26] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Alldin Kan wrote: It's time you stop posting... It's time you look at the bigger picture instead of just one suit. You don't fix what exploits broken core mechanics without fixing the broken core mechanics. Nobody complains about logis with sidearms, shotguns, plasma cannons, or any other niche weapons, they complain about logis with ARs and ScRs. Other people just complain about ARs and ScRs. See a pattern? The problem with AR is high accuracy and low kick, Scrambler rifle simply has excessive dps on Ammar suit. Core mechanics aren't the problem. CCP, promoting exploits with every update LOL Commando LOL Plasma Cannon
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 230	Posted - 2013.12.07 02:19:00 - [27] - Quote Or they could drop the pg/cpu and change the logi bonus to reduce equipment pg/cpu cost Can no longer super stack module but uses equipment like a good logi Christ is lord Sanguine knights , open recruitment, join now. Fear is a choice, I choose not to let it control me.
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1290	Posted - 2013.12.07 02:22:00 - [28] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: Cosgar wrote: Or they could simply fix TTK on light weapons so that sidearms and speed differences are more relevant than they aren't right now. Nerfing the current OP thing while core mechanics are still broken will just make all the tryhards flock to the next FOTM, they'll have to nerf that and the cycle will continue. It's time you stop posting... TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Slot counts are not the problem. Yes it is, that's where all the excessive HP/Damage comes from. The problem is how the bonuses are applied and what the applied bonus is. The 5hp/s built in armor rep on logi is a bad perk. Assault suits need assault bonuses and logi need equipment perks. Slot layout wouldn't be as big of a problem if suit perks were done better. Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 2202	Posted - 2013.12.07 02:26:00 - [29] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: Cosgar wrote: Or they could simply fix TTK on light weapons so that sidearms and speed differences are more relevant than they aren't right now. Nerfing the current OP thing while core mechanics are still broken will just make all the tryhards flock to the next FOTM, they'll have to nerf that and the cycle will continue. It's time you stop posting... TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Slot counts are not the problem. Yes it is, that's where all the excessive HP/Damage comes from. The damage can be reeled in with increased resistances to certain HP types. When there is some opportunity for a choice other than "packing as much armor and damage mods as possible" those slots can be used for EWAR, speed, hacking, etc. That's why I don't like the slot reduction idea. It limits the variety. I hope they give the suits bonuses like T2 ships in Eve. You still have choice, but the bonuses point you in an obvious direction. But lowering the TTK should be priority one and I think increasing resistances is the best way to that. Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1290	Posted - 2013.12.07 02:26:00 - [30] - Quote Cosgar wrote: With the exception of triage hives and the core repper (which actually prorate triage points) prototype equipment actually gets less WP rewards. The proto injector gets rarely used because of this. It gives the potential for more WP. Prototype equipment last longer and do a better job. That gives the potential for more WP. Prototype is better in all cases (maybe the Viziam is the exception) and none reward more or less WP but they do give the opportunity to make more the farther up the tier you go. Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.



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