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Senator Snipe SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 71	Posted - 2013.12.06 03:13:00 - [1] - Quote I mean come on man.................come the ** on man ................why are you nerfing the forge gun....AGAIN. I am sick and tired of the god damn babies that complain about this awesome *** weapon. Be like the rest of the dust punks and use your assault rifle. Why the hell you want to mess with the forge gun. This is rediculous, these vehicle people run these ambush and skirm not even using the god damn tank right. Most of these fags just stay there and try to kill me, an anti vehicle pro, instead of just backing up and regenerating. You can't just keep nerfing the forge gun like that. I SWEAR TO *** GOD, if the forge gun gets nerfed one more time i will leave if i don't get a respec. I will be a *** proto assault *** like the fags we have here and get easy kills. The Deadliest forge gunner in Dust 514
Harpyja DUST University Ivy League 873	Posted - 2013.12.06 03:15:00 - [2] - Quote There there, they didn't nerf it that much! "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 782	Posted - 2013.12.06 03:17:00 - [3] - Quote Awe, they take away your magic, lazy, fantasy weapon? Here's your alicorn. Do your part. Join the revolution. Sabotage FW. Help this game burn! BURN DUST 2014
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 8390	Posted - 2013.12.06 03:17:00 - [4] - Quote When a weapon is adjusted to match its intended targets adjustments we refer to this change as 'balance' and not a 'nerf' This has been a public service announcement Win ISK / Vids / O7
Senator Snipe SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 71	Posted - 2013.12.06 03:17:00 - [5] - Quote are you kidding me, why the hell is it an assault forge gun if its charge rate is so god damn slow now. I mean holy ****, is it now ONLY because you can't hold the charge? SMFH The Deadliest forge gunner in Dust 514
Supernus Gigas Art of Assassination 4	Posted - 2013.12.06 03:17:00 - [6] - Quote Calm down on the extreme ellipses. As someone who pretty much only uses Forge Guns, I find it to actually be reasonable nerf, nothing to really get all up worked up about.
BobThe 844-1 CakeMan Murder Cakes Of Doom 1210	Posted - 2013.12.06 03:17:00 - [7] - Quote so u wanted the same forges tht r op now with the nerfed tanks. yea they had to get some sort of nerf. plus the nerf isn't even tht bad. O_O Tank driver. 10 mil SP in tanks 8 mil into infantry. Msg my main BobThe843CakeMan I ring for everyone. :D
Senator Snipe SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 71	Posted - 2013.12.06 03:19:00 - [8] - Quote BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: so u wanted the same forges tht r op now with the nerfed tanks. yea they had to get some sort of nerf. plus the nerf isn't even tht bad. O_O no, it is terrible. I use the proto charge forge gun and i just want to puke. Ya i can easily kill units with it but its charge rate is so slow. I mean wow, i don't even want the gatsun forge gun anymore. The Deadliest forge gunner in Dust 514
BobThe 844-1 CakeMan Murder Cakes Of Doom 1210	Posted - 2013.12.06 03:21:00 - [9] - Quote Senator Snipe wrote: BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: so u wanted the same forges tht r op now with the nerfed tanks. yea they had to get some sort of nerf. plus the nerf isn't even tht bad. O_O no, it is terrible. I use the proto charge forge gun and i just want to puke. Ya i can easily kill units with it but its charge rate is so slow. I mean wow, i don't even want the gatsun forge gun anymore. so do i. and it's still the best av choice in 1.7 Tank driver. 10 mil SP in tanks 8 mil into infantry. Msg my main BobThe843CakeMan I ring for everyone. :D
Exmaple Core D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1626	Posted - 2013.12.06 03:22:00 - [10] - Quote Hey guys, i know i dont play anymore but id just like to say this to snipe. BIIIIIITTTTCCCCHHHHH!!!! That is all.

Ivy Zalinto Bobbit's Hangmen 101	Posted - 2013.12.06 03:23:00 - [11] - Quote Honestly, Im a scout and I personally think the forge gun shouldnt have even close to the damage of a rail gun, via installation or on the main gun of a tank. Even with a charge time and limited ammo. If the ammo of the rail gun tanks arent sizable, I kinda expect more of a nerf with how much damage your forgers do. Doubt it will happen but still. Though with the vehicle point respec I will likely drop from logilav's and into shield tanks. Dedicated scout. Player bodyguard Pistol supremacy.
Rusty Shallows 563	Posted - 2013.12.06 03:25:00 - [12] - Quote The Dev's nerf stuff, that's what they do. There is a small chance that the changes won't end up being as bad as they are on paper. It's hard giving them the benefit of the doubt after past disasters. For example Uprising 1.0 and the obliteration of Mass Drivers and HMGs at the time. Skepticism is a good thing to hold onto. Just try tempering it with some game play. Even if it is likely the Dev's screwed up again. "She may not be Miss Right but she'll do right now." SR-71 310k+ SP for +0.05m/s (>2in) on a Heavy. Totally worth it.
SGT NOVA STAR Ahrendee Mercenaries 138	Posted - 2013.12.06 03:25:00 - [13] - Quote You only lost like 100 damage on a 1400 damage weapon, grow up. Been hunting Graboids in my Kubera since 2012
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5619	Posted - 2013.12.06 03:26:00 - [14] - Quote Seems like the OP can't tell the difference between a nerf and a tweak. OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5619	Posted - 2013.12.06 03:27:00 - [15] - Quote SGT NOVA STAR wrote: You only lost like 100 damage on a 1400 damage weapon, grow up. Not to mention a +0.5 second added charge time. Half of a stupid second. Can anyone even notice half a second? OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
Senator Snipe SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 73	Posted - 2013.12.06 03:30:00 - [16] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: SGT NOVA STAR wrote: You only lost like 100 damage on a 1400 damage weapon, grow up. Not to mention a +0.5 second added charge time. Half of a stupid second. Can anyone even notice half a second? every second counts. The Deadliest forge gunner in Dust 514
Mauren NOON The Exemplars Top Men. 54	Posted - 2013.12.06 03:30:00 - [17] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: SGT NOVA STAR wrote: You only lost like 100 damage on a 1400 damage weapon, grow up. Not to mention a +0.5 second added charge time. Half of a stupid second. Can anyone even notice half a second? It's not very "assault" if you die before you fire the first shot. -_-
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1629	Posted - 2013.12.06 03:31:00 - [18] - Quote BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: so u wanted the same forges tht r op now with the nerfed tanks. yea they had to get some sort of nerf. plus the nerf isn't even tht bad. O_O Tanks aren't being nerfed. They will have around 18-30k eHP in short bursts with long cooldowns. I'd consider 18-30k eHP to be a huge buff. My Very First Thread About Tanks -HAND
Harpyja DUST University Ivy League 874	Posted - 2013.12.06 03:31:00 - [19] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: SGT NOVA STAR wrote: You only lost like 100 damage on a 1400 damage weapon, grow up. Not to mention a +0.5 second added charge time. Half of a stupid second. Can anyone even notice half a second? Half of a second is still stupidly fast. If they really wanted to make the charge time change noticeable, at least a one second increase would become noticeable. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Senator Snipe SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 73	Posted - 2013.12.06 03:31:00 - [20] - Quote SGT NOVA STAR wrote: You only lost like 100 damage on a 1400 damage weapon, grow up. there is a big difference, trust me. The Deadliest forge gunner in Dust 514

Senator Snipe SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 73	Posted - 2013.12.06 03:31:00 - [21] - Quote Harpyja wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: SGT NOVA STAR wrote: You only lost like 100 damage on a 1400 damage weapon, grow up. Not to mention a +0.5 second added charge time. Half of a stupid second. Can anyone even notice half a second? Half of a second is still stupidly fast. If they really wanted to make the charge time change noticeable, at least a one second increase would become noticeable. gtfo The Deadliest forge gunner in Dust 514
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1629	Posted - 2013.12.06 03:32:00 - [22] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: SGT NOVA STAR wrote: You only lost like 100 damage on a 1400 damage weapon, grow up. Not to mention a +0.5 second added charge time. Half of a stupid second. Can anyone even notice half a second? When your going toe to toe with vehicles, even .2 seconds can make a difference. Otherwise, the Specialist version of weapons would be widely used. My Very First Thread About Tanks -HAND
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5623	Posted - 2013.12.06 03:32:00 - [23] - Quote Senator Snipe wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: SGT NOVA STAR wrote: You only lost like 100 damage on a 1400 damage weapon, grow up. Not to mention a +0.5 second added charge time. Half of a stupid second. Can anyone even notice half a second? every second counts. Half second. HALF SECOND! OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1629	Posted - 2013.12.06 03:33:00 - [24] - Quote Harpyja wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: SGT NOVA STAR wrote: You only lost like 100 damage on a 1400 damage weapon, grow up. Not to mention a +0.5 second added charge time. Half of a stupid second. Can anyone even notice half a second? Half of a second is still stupidly fast. If they really wanted to make the charge time change noticeable, at least a one second increase would become noticeable. What's the spool up time on a railgun again? .5s seems to be a huge difference to me. My Very First Thread About Tanks -HAND
Harpyja DUST University Ivy League 874	Posted - 2013.12.06 03:35:00 - [25] - Quote Atiim wrote: Harpyja wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: SGT NOVA STAR wrote: You only lost like 100 damage on a 1400 damage weapon, grow up. Not to mention a +0.5 second added charge time. Half of a stupid second. Can anyone even notice half a second? Half of a second is still stupidly fast. If they really wanted to make the charge time change noticeable, at least a one second increase would become noticeable. What's the spool up time on a railgun again? .5s seems to be a huge difference to me. It also depends on context. Charge time on railguns is .4 or .5 seconds, need to check the dev blog again, and adding .5 seconds is a 100% increase. Now that's noticeable. But for the forge guns, a .5 second increase to 2.5 seconds, now that's barely noticeable. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
SGT NOVA STAR Ahrendee Mercenaries 139	Posted - 2013.12.06 03:36:00 - [26] - Quote Senator Snipe wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: SGT NOVA STAR wrote: You only lost like 100 damage on a 1400 damage weapon, grow up. Not to mention a +0.5 second added charge time. Half of a stupid second. Can anyone even notice half a second? every second counts. Considering armor is passively always repping each second, yeah maybe. But I still think forge should of got a 300 hp nerf. ONLY because the proto av nades don't even do the damage as normal av nades now. It does look like forge gun hasn't really changed much. Been hunting Graboids in my Kubera since 2012
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3976	Posted - 2013.12.06 03:37:00 - [27] - Quote Senator Snipe wrote: are you kidding me, why the hell is it an assault forge gun if its charge rate is so god damn slow now. I mean holy ****, is it now ONLY because you can't hold the charge? SMFH A .5 second increase is equivalent to complete destruction of the weapon. Congratulations on making the thread that will ensure your others will be ridiculed or ignored. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1631	Posted - 2013.12.06 03:41:00 - [28] - Quote Harpyja wrote: Atiim wrote: Harpyja wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: SGT NOVA STAR wrote: You only lost like 100 damage on a 1400 damage weapon, grow up. Not to mention a +0.5 second added charge time. Half of a stupid second. Can anyone even notice half a second? Half of a second is still stupidly fast. If they really wanted to make the charge time change noticeable, at least a one second increase would become noticeable. What's the spool up time on a railgun again? .5s seems to be a huge difference to me. It also depends on context. Charge time on railguns is .4 or .5 seconds, need to check the dev blog again, and adding .5 seconds is a 100% increase. Now that's noticeable. But for the forge guns, a .5 second increase to 2.5 seconds, now that's barely noticeable. So why even have the spool up time if it's barely noticeable. (And if your telling me that you barely notice the spool up time, then I want the drugs your taking) My Very First Thread About Tanks -HAND
Senator Snipe SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 73	Posted - 2013.12.06 03:43:00 - [29] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Senator Snipe wrote: are you kidding me, why the hell is it an assault forge gun if its charge rate is so god damn slow now. I mean holy **, is it now ONLY because you can't hold the charge? SMFH A .5 second increase is equivalent to complete destruction of the weapon. Congratulations on making the thread that will ensure your others will be ridiculed or ignored. **** i said if it gets nerfed again ima quit. it is gonna be harder to use for sure but this better be the last. this nerf is senseless. The Deadliest forge gunner in Dust 514
Harpyja DUST University Ivy League 874	Posted - 2013.12.06 03:50:00 - [30] - Quote Senator Snipe wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Senator Snipe wrote: are you kidding me, why the hell is it an assault forge gun if its charge rate is so god damn slow now. I mean holy **, is it now ONLY because you can't hold the charge? SMFH A .5 second increase is equivalent to complete destruction of the weapon. Congratulations on making the thread that will ensure your others will be ridiculed or ignored. ** i said if it gets nerfed again ima quit. it is gonna be harder to use for sure but this better be the last. this nerf is senseless. Ok, now it just looks like you're QQing about the fact that your forge gun is being rebalanced accordingly with the vehicle changes**. You just want to make it an OP weapon that can solo any vehicle out there. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32

Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 145	Posted - 2013.12.06 03:52:00 - [31] - Quote Atiim wrote: BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: so u wanted the same forges tht r op now with the nerfed tanks. yea they had to get some sort of nerf. plus the nerf isn't even tht bad. O_O Tanks aren't being nerfed. They will have around 18-30k eHP in short bursts with long cooldowns. I'd consider 18-30k eHP to be a huge buff. Message from Godin: With level 5 skills, at the highest, you can only get 15.8k eHP. but that's only for a good 40 seconds or so (can't remmber the active time of the enhanced hardeners off the top of my head w/e level 5 skills), so although there is a buff, it comes from active tanking your HAV. So you are way off. Quiet now child.
SGT NOVA STAR Ahrendee Mercenaries 140	Posted - 2013.12.06 03:55:00 - [32] - Quote Iv lost all my variants in blasters and modules,my proto tanks 3 times, two low slots, my active repper, my pg skill, and hp. So don't even let me catch you complaining about 100 damage and half a second charge time. Been hunting Graboids in my Kubera since 2012
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 115	Posted - 2013.12.06 03:55:00 - [33] - Quote To bad. So sad. Now you know what it's like to have been a shield tanking caldari tac ar user before it became FOTM. Or a tanker. Deal with it, or at least QQ after you actually use the gun with the proposed nerf.
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 1220	Posted - 2013.12.06 04:01:00 - [34] - Quote In terms of DPS, the 0.5s addition was the biggest part of the nerf. Still, it ain't bad yo. You can still blap. You can still shoot a stray pubic hair off a fly at 300m if you aim right. The essential character, use, and relative power of the FG is pretty much unaffected. ¶Gêƒ__ Gò« Gû¿GûêGûêGûêGòáGëíGëíGëíGû¬ « GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GåÆFAT GATGåÉ pÇûGûôGûôGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæpÇùForum Warrior LV 1 (NEXT: 200/1000XP) ¯Gò¦pÇôpÇù
SGT NOVA STAR Ahrendee Mercenaries 140	Posted - 2013.12.06 04:05:00 - [35] - Quote Disturbingly Bored wrote: In terms of DPS, the 0.5s addition was the biggest part of the nerf. Still, it ain't bad yo. You can still blap. You can still shoot a stray pubic hair off a fly at 300m if you aim right. The essential character, use, and relative power of the FG is pretty much unaffected. Boom, truth. Been hunting Graboids in my Kubera since 2012
Arirana Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 290	Posted - 2013.12.06 04:13:00 - [36] - Quote Senator Snipe wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Senator Snipe wrote: are you kidding me, why the hell is it an assault forge gun if its charge rate is so god damn slow now. I mean holy **, is it now ONLY because you can't hold the charge? SMFH A .5 second increase is equivalent to complete destruction of the weapon. Congratulations on making the thread that will ensure your others will be ridiculed or ignored. ** i said if it gets nerfed again ima quit. it is gonna be harder to use for sure but this better be the last. this nerf is senseless. Senator are you that ignorant? Stop pretending it would've been balanced against the new vehicles. We all knew it needed a nerf or vehicles would be ****. They couldn't nerf the damage too much otherwise you wouldn't be able to OHK infantry. Charge up nerf or 2HK against hp tanked infantry such as heavys and some logis. I have been subject to the nerf bat several times since 1.0, TAC AR, Calogi, shields, and now shields again. You have to step back and realize that what you were using was OP and adapt to the change. I don't use the TAC AR anymore because the normal AR is cheaper, and has seen buffs ever since 1.0 (which is pretty stupid IMO) TL;DR Weaker tanks = Weaker AV otherwise tanks no longer exist, your AV no longer have a purpose AAAATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATA~ WOOOAAATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATA
Commander Tzu L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 34	Posted - 2013.12.06 04:30:00 - [37] - Quote Forge guns got balanced to fit into the new vehicle system? Approved. The biggest change was to the forge guns that did way more damage than rail guns; now they only do slightly more damage than rail guns. Unless they nerf the range they are still going to be better than swarms. This is actually hilarious though, I can see the Devs in the meeting room now: "AVers are mad because their weapons got changed to fit our new idea of vehicle combat and vehicle people are mad cause they are losing slots in anticipation of Advanced and Prototype hulls." "So no one is happy?" "Correct." "So it's the perfect compromise."
AP Grasshopper The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 54	Posted - 2013.12.06 04:55:00 - [38] - Quote 30k EHP tanks? id like to see some of these OP fits you've magically made. If you were to outright brick tank without a repper you could probably pull off something along the lines of 14-16k EHP. If you want it to be a viable platform the strongest of vehicles wont have more than 10k ehp so as to be able to fit a repair module also. In 1.6 with max skills you can squeeze out 20k ehp but you wont come close to that in 1.7 I don't even feel the forge gun was nerfed, merely rebalanced. Swarms on the other hand did get a range nerf while also having there damage rebalanced.
Rusty Shallows 564	Posted - 2013.12.06 04:57:00 - [39] - Quote Senator Snipe wrote: Harpyja wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: SGT NOVA STAR wrote: You only lost like 100 damage on a 1400 damage weapon, grow up. Not to mention a +0.5 second added charge time. Half of a stupid second. Can anyone even notice half a second? Half of a second is still stupidly fast. If they really wanted to make the charge time change noticeable, at least a one second increase would become noticeable. gtfo They're playing you Sniper, try not letting it get to you. Disturbingly Bored's response at #34 is on target. That is if these changes actually match up what is happening to vehicles. Which is a question none of us can answer yet. MCC Lounge Lizard Forums > Game Fix the game CCP


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