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Master Jaraiya Ultramarine Corp 1363	Posted - 2013.12.05 15:38:00 - [61] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Master Jaraiya wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Master Jaraiya wrote: It is not fun unless you are in only 1 v 1 engagements at 10 m with ample time in between to allow your Logi to rep you and your shields to come back up for the entire match because the one guy with the Duvolle took you below half armor. Well, we all know how many engagements are 1 v 1 at 10 m... VoV I took on multiple people at the same time. I just had to use this magical thing called cover to fight only one at a time. Then you must have been playing against idiots. I don't meant to offend you or anything, so don't get me wrong, but any decent squad would have 1 guy keep you occupied while another ran around behind you and killed you, then went over and revived his buddy if you were able to take him out. I'm not saying I don't still have my moments with the HMG, I do throw it on once in a while, but I am able to perform better with more consistent results using the Duvolle AR on a Heavy and that is just sad. Actually, that's exactly what they were doing. I was using my knowledge of what I would do against a heavy and applied it to counter them. I kept both occupied, lowering their health a bit by bit until they were too low to attack me and started running, so I jumped out and spreyed them both down. They had a friend waiting behind, but I could just sprey him down after I finished with those two, since it literally only took a swipe of the crosshair over them to kill them. Then they were simply crap players who didn't know that all you have to do is stay 30m away while employing this basic diversion tactic to drop you. Heck, just staying 30 m away is sufficient in most circumstances. "The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies." *- The Toad Sage*
N1GHTMAR3S of Terror TRE GAFFEL 2	Posted - 2013.12.05 15:38:00 - [62] - Quote I us an AR heavy because I don't have a militia HMG, and I don't have the SP for the STD HMG. I get a lot of use out of the militia forge gun.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4372	Posted - 2013.12.05 15:39:00 - [63] - Quote Master Jaraiya wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Master Jaraiya wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Master Jaraiya wrote: It is not fun unless you are in only 1 v 1 engagements at 10 m with ample time in between to allow your Logi to rep you and your shields to come back up for the entire match because the one guy with the Duvolle took you below half armor. Well, we all know how many engagements are 1 v 1 at 10 m... VoV I took on multiple people at the same time. I just had to use this magical thing called cover to fight only one at a time. Then you must have been playing against idiots. I don't meant to offend you or anything, so don't get me wrong, but any decent squad would have 1 guy keep you occupied while another ran around behind you and killed you, then went over and revived his buddy if you were able to take him out. I'm not saying I don't still have my moments with the HMG, I do throw it on once in a while, but I am able to perform better with more consistent results using the Duvolle AR on a Heavy and that is just sad. Actually, that's exactly what they were doing. I was using my knowledge of what I would do against a heavy and applied it to counter them. I kept both occupied, lowering their health a bit by bit until they were too low to attack me and started running, so I jumped out and spreyed them both down. They had a friend waiting behind, but I could just sprey him down after I finished with those two, since it literally only took a swipe of the crosshair over them to kill them. Then they were simply crap players who didn't know that all you have to do is stay 30m away while employing this basic diversion tactic to drop you. Heck, just staying 30 m away is sufficient in most circumstances. I had squad mates pushing them closer to me. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4372	Posted - 2013.12.05 15:40:00 - [64] - Quote Master Jaraiya wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Slag Emberforge wrote: HMG is not working as it should, but I agree with Cat on a couple counts. 1. CQC it is a beast if you shove the barrel down their throat and fill it full of bullets 2. Using cover is you best friend, tight buildings and halls are even better 3. It can be used effectively as area denial 4. It's fun! I'm prof 5 in AR, SMG, FG, but only prof 3 in HMG (let's face it the prof blows anyways) and I still use it in tight maps and for fun. Heh, I just spent the last of my unallocated SP on getting HMG to level V and Prof to level III. Totally worth it :D If you say so... Take it to PC against some decent players and tell me how much fun it is. Considering I have 22mil SP, and I am 100% competitive in PC with two rifles, two suits and two tanking types, for something to be worth it for me it just has to be fun. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Master Jaraiya Ultramarine Corp 1363	Posted - 2013.12.05 15:47:00 - [65] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: I had squad mates pushing them closer to me. Oh must be nice to have your squad feeding you kills in Pubs because half of the enemy team is in the redline sniping lol. Dude just stop. The HMG is broke af and if you think it's so fun take it into PC. I guarantee you will be singing a different tune. Pubs will be Pubs. "The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies." *- The Toad Sage*
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4372	Posted - 2013.12.05 15:49:00 - [66] - Quote Master Jaraiya wrote: Cat Merc wrote: I had squad mates pushing them closer to me. Oh must be nice to have your squad feeding you kills in Pubs because half of the enemy team is in the redline sniping lol. Dude just stop. The HMG is broke af and if you think it's so fun take it into PC. I guarantee you will be singing a different tune. Pubs will be Pubs. Are you saying that I don't agree the HMG is broken? As I said before, I'm using it for the same reason people use the PLC. It's fun, and it's challenging. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Master Jaraiya Ultramarine Corp 1364	Posted - 2013.12.05 15:52:00 - [67] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Master Jaraiya wrote: Cat Merc wrote: I had squad mates pushing them closer to me. Oh must be nice to have your squad feeding you kills in Pubs because half of the enemy team is in the redline sniping lol. Dude just stop. The HMG is broke af and if you think it's so fun take it into PC. I guarantee you will be singing a different tune. Pubs will be Pubs. Are you saying that I don't agree the HMG is broken? As I said before, I'm using it for the same reason people use the PLC. It's fun, and it's challenging. Sure it can be fun to use against idiots in Pubs who don't know how to play the game. I'm sure you could still have fun with the Flaylock Pistol against the same. "The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies." *- The Toad Sage*
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 1154	Posted - 2013.12.05 15:54:00 - [68] - Quote I'm not sure if it's me, but I've noticed some severe inconsistency with the ranging of HMGs lately. It may just be my imagination, but I'm starting to get outranged somehow by the exact same weapon I'm using. SWEET MOTHER OF TERESA ON THE HOOD OF A MERCEDES BENZ, YOU SOUND LIKE A MAJESTIC EAGLE! DO YOU SING?!
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4372	Posted - 2013.12.05 15:57:00 - [69] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: I'm not sure if it's me, but I've noticed some severe inconsistency with the ranging of HMGs lately. It may just be my imagination, but I'm starting to get outranged somehow by the exact same weapon I'm using. Assault HMG maybe? Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 1154	Posted - 2013.12.05 16:03:00 - [70] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Assault HMG maybe? HM-82 vs HM-82. If it was an Assault, I wouldn't be so concerned. It may actually be my internet, since it's been going down a lot recently. On a sidenote: I'm seeing a hella lot of turbo controller Scrambler Rifles the past week or two. What the hell is up with that? SWEET MOTHER OF TERESA ON THE HOOD OF A MERCEDES BENZ, YOU SOUND LIKE A MAJESTIC EAGLE! DO YOU SING?!

TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR F.T.U. 741	Posted - 2013.12.05 16:07:00 - [71] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: I am an hmg beast on my alt. what happened to all of your likes? I believe at one point I saw you with almost 40,000. Tell me, how exactly DOES a biscuit gain Valor?
Master Jaraiya Ultramarine Corp 1365	Posted - 2013.12.05 16:09:00 - [72] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: On a sidenote: I'm seeing a hella lot of turbo controller Scrambler Rifles the past week or two. What the hell is up with that? Scrubs will be scrubs. "The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies." *- The Toad Sage*
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1843	Posted - 2013.12.05 16:11:00 - [73] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: HMG is fun vs noobs or if your squad is working on keeping you alive. With all the new rifles, and just rifles in general, you ultimately get hedged out against better players, banishing you to the pits of objectives to wait for food to stumble close enough Hey, I'm having fun. I do not care that it is less effective than the AR. I use it for the same reason people use the PLC, because it's fun :D If the HMG is in the same state as the Plasma Cannon there is a problem, even though the PLC my become viable for AV after the other AV was nerfed. Level 1 Forum Warrior I'm a bittervet, if I seem like a douche it's because of your stupidity
HowDidThatTaste Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 4093	Posted - 2013.12.05 16:14:00 - [74] - Quote You know what's sad? I have not seen a thread that claims the HMG is overpowered in 4 months! Can the HMG be fun yes, but the AR is three times more fun at 4 times the range.
CLONE117 planetary retaliation organisation 494	Posted - 2013.12.05 16:15:00 - [75] - Quote buffing the total ammo of the hmg to 4k and raising the rof to 5k. maybe lowing the damage per hit down to 15 or 10 along with lowering overheat build up. buff the hmg clip size to 1k. leaving the rest the same. how powerful would this make the hmg?
HowDidThatTaste Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 4093	Posted - 2013.12.05 16:16:00 - [76] - Quote CLONE117 wrote: buffing the total ammo of the hmg to 4k and raising the rof to 5k. maybe lowing the damage per hit down to 15 or 10 along with lowering overheat build up. buff the hmg clip size to 1k. leaving the rest the same. how powerful would this make the hmg? How about just fixing the cone thing see the video here https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1490858#post1490858
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4372	Posted - 2013.12.05 16:23:00 - [77] - Quote CLONE117 wrote: buffing the total ammo of the hmg to 4k and raising the rof to 5k. maybe lowing the damage per hit down to 15 or 10 along with lowering overheat build up. buff the hmg clip size to 1k. leaving the rest the same. how powerful would this make the hmg? Kinda OP? The DPS would be 1250. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
I-Shayz-I I-----I 1532	Posted - 2013.12.05 16:29:00 - [78] - Quote I'm a logi and I have HMG proficiency at 4. Wat. No seriously, the HMG is badass if you know how to use it. It's just that it's best for specific situations...like camping an objective that is flooded with redberries, or defending a busy hallway. The only time I don't like using an HMG is if I'm running by myself, or on a big open map. Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4372	Posted - 2013.12.05 16:33:00 - [79] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: I'm a logi and I have HMG proficiency at 4. Wat. No seriously, the HMG is badass if you know how to use it. It's just that it's best for specific situations...like camping an objective that is flooded with redberries, or defending a busy hallway. The only time I don't like using an HMG is if I'm running by myself, or on a big open map. As they said, it's good in pub matches against clueless redberries. But it needs help. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4373	Posted - 2013.12.05 17:15:00 - [80] - Quote Thoughts on this humans? https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1567186#post1567186 Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.



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