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Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4353	Posted - 2013.12.05 03:55:00 - [1] - Quote I don't get you heavies using AR on heavy suit. HMG's are fircking hilarious! They sound badass, do a fuckton of damage upclose (Just the way I like as a Gallente :P), and make blueberries shuffle for cover This is great, I'm speccing into it, you guys have fun with your boring AR Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4353	Posted - 2013.12.05 03:59:00 - [2] - Quote Foundation Seldon wrote: Glad you're enjoying them, having used them in Chromosome myself I can't go back to the way they are now. meow Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4353	Posted - 2013.12.05 04:20:00 - [3] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: HMG is fun vs noobs or if your squad is working on keeping you alive. With all the new rifles, and just rifles in general, you ultimately get hedged out against better players, banishing you to the pits of objectives to wait for food to stumble close enough Hey, I'm having fun. I do not care that it is less effective than the AR. I use it for the same reason people use the PLC, because it's fun :D Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4353	Posted - 2013.12.05 04:27:00 - [4] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Cat Merc wrote: I don't get you heavies using AR on heavy suit. HMG's are fircking hilarious! They sound badass, do a fuckton of damage upclose (Just the way I like as a Gallente :P), and make redberries shuffle for cover This is great, I'm speccing into it, you guys have fun with your boring AR Use it against anyone who strafes and lemme know how that works out for ya. Yeah it's a bit challenging, but it works :D My scores so far: 27/2 23/8 19/1 11/0 And all of the maps I played were long range maps. Oh and I went up against proto players, sent me a rage mail :D Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4353	Posted - 2013.12.05 04:27:00 - [5] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: Cat Merc wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: HMG is fun vs noobs or if your squad is working on keeping you alive. With all the new rifles, and just rifles in general, you ultimately get hedged out against better players, banishing you to the pits of objectives to wait for food to stumble close enough Hey, I'm having fun. I do not care that it is less effective than the AR. I use it for the same reason people use the PLC, because it's fun :D please excuse him, he has bitter vet syndrome. There is currently no known cure. I loled Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4353	Posted - 2013.12.05 04:32:00 - [6] - Quote Cosgar wrote: HMG was at its best in Replication. It outgunned all the light weapons and induced massive anal evacuations to any red within proximity. People thought it was OP as hell back then but if you didn't pay attention to heat build up and your clip size, you were basically screwed. Scouts were also the anti-christ to heavies back then, able to bounce around like little strafing bastards. heh I remember that. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4357	Posted - 2013.12.05 04:41:00 - [7] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: General John Ripper wrote: Cat Merc wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: HMG is fun vs noobs or if your squad is working on keeping you alive. With all the new rifles, and just rifles in general, you ultimately get hedged out against better players, banishing you to the pits of objectives to wait for food to stumble close enough Hey, I'm having fun. I do not care that it is less effective than the AR. I use it for the same reason people use the PLC, because it's fun :D please excuse him, he has bitter vet syndrome. There is currently no known cure. The cure is actually a shrubbery. I just haven't been able to get anyone to bring me one. Brings Dust Fiend Catnip Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4357	Posted - 2013.12.05 04:45:00 - [8] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: I love them but unfortunately can't use one on my scout, also Amarr heavy eww, wouldn't it be funny to see a Matari scout with an HMG we're strong enough lore wise to carry one anyway...... No you're not. Scouts have hollow bones and two hearts. Heavies have two spines and weigh over a ton. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4357	Posted - 2013.12.05 04:46:00 - [9] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Cosgar wrote: HMG was at its best in Replication. It outgunned all the light weapons and induced massive anal evacuations to any red within proximity. People thought it was OP as hell back then but if you didn't pay attention to heat build up and your clip size, you were basically screwed. Scouts were also the anti-christ to heavies back then, able to bounce around like little strafing bastards. heh I remember that. Kind of what it needs to go back to. If they have to nerf the HMG from there, increase heat build up, reload speed, and rescind the HP buff. The whole idea of a heavy was to have larger HP and more firepower at the cost of mobility. Heavies need to be heavies. Nah, don't rescind the HP buff. It's a good thing. Heavies are actually scary in CQC, unlike they were before. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4357	Posted - 2013.12.05 04:47:00 - [10] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Cat Merc wrote: I don't get you heavies using AR on heavy suit. HMG's are fircking hilarious! They sound badass, do a fuckton of damage upclose (Just the way I like as a Gallente :P), and make redberries shuffle for cover This is great, I'm speccing into it, you guys have fun with your boring AR AGAIN with you catnip.... You are not fooling anyone. Feeds KING CHECKMATE catnip Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.

Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4360	Posted - 2013.12.05 04:50:00 - [11] - Quote 8213 wrote: So, tell me more about the starter fit noobs you were playing against... A Heavy with an HMG is a freebie kill for me... VoV Killed some proto dudes, one even teabagged me because I killed him 3 times in a row. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4360	Posted - 2013.12.05 04:51:00 - [12] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Cosgar wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Cosgar wrote: HMG was at its best in Replication. It outgunned all the light weapons and induced massive anal evacuations to any red within proximity. People thought it was OP as hell back then but if you didn't pay attention to heat build up and your clip size, you were basically screwed. Scouts were also the anti-christ to heavies back then, able to bounce around like little strafing bastards. heh I remember that. Kind of what it needs to go back to. If they have to nerf the HMG from there, increase heat build up, reload speed, and rescind the HP buff. The whole idea of a heavy was to have larger HP and more firepower at the cost of mobility. Heavies need to be heavies. Nah, don't rescind the HP buff. It's a good thing. Heavies are actually scary in CQC, unlike they were before. Having the current heavy with the Replication HMG would be OP. They tried to balance things out by making heavies the most SP intensive. Before the wipe, all we saw were heavies. It shouldn't go back to full on replication HMG. It should be somewhere inbetween. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4360	Posted - 2013.12.05 04:51:00 - [13] - Quote SoTarian PoParrazi wrote: Watches Cat go into a pub with HMG Cat: This is so fun! People just go down quick and I can mow down 3 people before out of half ammo! This is great! Gets called into a PC Cat: WTF, EVERYONES ON A ROOF! I can't even fight in city because every other position can be pounded on from a distance too! AND WHATS WITH ALL THE HOPPING AND GRENADES?!! CAT GO RAWR. Continues to watch as cat deletes Dust off PS3. Cats always go rawr. Your argument is invalid. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4360	Posted - 2013.12.05 04:53:00 - [14] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: I love them but unfortunately can't use one on my scout, also Amarr heavy eww, wouldn't it be funny to see a Matari scout with an HMG we're strong enough lore wise to carry one anyway...... No you're not. Scouts have hollow bones and two hearts. Heavies have two spines and weigh over a ton. Shush you don't ruin my fun. You're a scout. You ruined your own fun. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4360	Posted - 2013.12.05 04:58:00 - [15] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Cat Merc wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Cat Merc wrote: I don't get you heavies using AR on heavy suit. HMG's are fircking hilarious! They sound badass, do a fuckton of damage upclose (Just the way I like as a Gallente :P), and make redberries shuffle for cover This is great, I'm speccing into it, you guys have fun with your boring AR AGAIN with you catnip.... You are not fooling anyone. Feeds KING CHECKMATE catnip HAHA well thats awesome stuff. No wonder... o.O Still ; HMG is a very underpowered weapon considering it REQUIRES for you to use a Heavy. So it requires of you to be always on everybody's radar and get picked up by A.Scanners It requires of you to have a huge hitbox that thanks to AA lets enemies connect 100% shots even while hip firing It requires of you to lack Equipment It requires from you to play pretty much at CQ or run around in a LAV,taht can be easily destroyed by AV, OR Spend even mMORE SP in a LLAV. It requires from you higher WEAPONRY levels not needed for light weapons (more SP sink) I could go on, but i made my point. HMG is underpowered, but not for the reasons you mentioned. It simply has bad range and dumb spread. Those things you mentioned are OK considering the BASE DPS of an HMG is around 600. If it could actually apply that at a range longer than 15m it would be an awesome weapon. It also has a confusing reticule, so that too. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4364	Posted - 2013.12.05 05:03:00 - [16] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Cat Merc wrote: HMG is underpowered, but not for the reasons you mentioned. It simply has bad range and dumb spread. Those things you mentioned are OK considering the BASE DPS of an HMG is around 600. If it could actually apply that at a range longer than 15m it would be an awesome weapon. It also has a confusing reticule, so that too. Well then,have fun with it feline lord.... (what can i say vs someone who is having FUN with a weapon...? good for you....) I would have fun with any weapon as long as I shoot humans. Humans are filthy. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4366	Posted - 2013.12.05 06:03:00 - [17] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: pets cat and feeds tuna Bites GJR's hand because it smelled of Tuna Do not steal my Tuna. It's mine. rawr. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4369	Posted - 2013.12.05 15:04:00 - [18] - Quote Master Jaraiya wrote: Confirmed broken by all us fully specced HMG Heavies. Confirmed broken by CCP. Broken HMG is Broken. No offense but, nothing you say will change that. ... Did you seriously just say that. Are you kidding me? Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4369	Posted - 2013.12.05 15:08:00 - [19] - Quote Master Jaraiya wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Master Jaraiya wrote: Confirmed broken by all us fully specced HMG Heavies. Confirmed broken by CCP. Broken HMG is Broken. No offense but, nothing you say will change that. ... Did you seriously just say that. Are you kidding me? Not kidding Broken HMG is broken. You're saying it like I'm trying to change your opinions. I'm not, I'm saying that in my opinion, you guys are missing out. Who cares if it's broken? It's fun! Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4370	Posted - 2013.12.05 15:13:00 - [20] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Who cares if it's broken? It's fun! Sing that tune after using it for a year Hush. Don't let the bitter vet disease take you over. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.

Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4370	Posted - 2013.12.05 15:15:00 - [21] - Quote Master Jaraiya wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Master Jaraiya wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Master Jaraiya wrote: Confirmed broken by all us fully specced HMG Heavies. Confirmed broken by CCP. Broken HMG is Broken. No offense but, nothing you say will change that. ... Did you seriously just say that. Are you kidding me? Not kidding Broken HMG is broken. You're saying it like I'm trying to change your opinions. I'm not, I'm saying that in my opinion, you guys are missing out. Who cares if it's broken? It's fun! It is not fun unless you are in only 1 v 1 engagements at 10 m with ample time in between to allow your Logi to rep you and your shields to come back up for the entire match because the one guy with the Duvolle took you below half armor. Well, we all know how many engagements are 1 v 1 at 10 m... VoV I took on multiple people at the same time. I just had to use this magical thing called cover to fight only one at a time. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4370	Posted - 2013.12.05 15:16:00 - [22] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Cat Merc wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Who cares if it's broken? It's fun! Sing that tune after using it for a year Hush. Don't let the bitter vet disease take you over. Then at least pass that **** bro, I'm out and I ain't nearly high enough for this And if it's catnip I will spray you with water Gives Dust Fiend dope with a bit of catnip in it Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4372	Posted - 2013.12.05 15:33:00 - [23] - Quote Master Jaraiya wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Master Jaraiya wrote: It is not fun unless you are in only 1 v 1 engagements at 10 m with ample time in between to allow your Logi to rep you and your shields to come back up for the entire match because the one guy with the Duvolle took you below half armor. Well, we all know how many engagements are 1 v 1 at 10 m... VoV I took on multiple people at the same time. I just had to use this magical thing called cover to fight only one at a time. Then you must have been playing against idiots. I don't meant to offend you or anything, so don't get me wrong, but any decent squad would have 1 guy keep you occupied while another ran around behind you and killed you, then went over and revived his buddy if you were able to take him out. I'm not saying I don't still have my moments with the HMG, I do throw it on once in a while, but I am able to perform better with more consistent results using the Duvolle AR on a Heavy and that is just sad. Actually, that's exactly what they were doing. I was using my knowledge of what I would do against a heavy and applied it to counter them. I kept both occupied, lowering their health a bit by bit until they were too low to attack me and started running, so I jumped out and spreyed them both down. They had a friend waiting behind, but I could just sprey him down after I finished with those two, since it literally only took a swipe of the crosshair over them to kill them. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4372	Posted - 2013.12.05 15:34:00 - [24] - Quote Slag Emberforge wrote: HMG is not working as it should, but I agree with Cat on a couple counts. 1. CQC it is a beast if you shove the barrel down their throat and fill it full of bullets 2. Using cover is you best friend, tight buildings and halls are even better 3. It can be used effectively as area denial 4. It's fun! I'm prof 5 in AR, SMG, FG, but only prof 3 in HMG (let's face it the prof blows anyways) and I still use it in tight maps and for fun. Heh, I just spent the last of my unallocated SP on getting HMG to level V and Prof to level III. Totally worth it :D Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4372	Posted - 2013.12.05 15:39:00 - [25] - Quote Master Jaraiya wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Master Jaraiya wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Master Jaraiya wrote: It is not fun unless you are in only 1 v 1 engagements at 10 m with ample time in between to allow your Logi to rep you and your shields to come back up for the entire match because the one guy with the Duvolle took you below half armor. Well, we all know how many engagements are 1 v 1 at 10 m... VoV I took on multiple people at the same time. I just had to use this magical thing called cover to fight only one at a time. Then you must have been playing against idiots. I don't meant to offend you or anything, so don't get me wrong, but any decent squad would have 1 guy keep you occupied while another ran around behind you and killed you, then went over and revived his buddy if you were able to take him out. I'm not saying I don't still have my moments with the HMG, I do throw it on once in a while, but I am able to perform better with more consistent results using the Duvolle AR on a Heavy and that is just sad. Actually, that's exactly what they were doing. I was using my knowledge of what I would do against a heavy and applied it to counter them. I kept both occupied, lowering their health a bit by bit until they were too low to attack me and started running, so I jumped out and spreyed them both down. They had a friend waiting behind, but I could just sprey him down after I finished with those two, since it literally only took a swipe of the crosshair over them to kill them. Then they were simply crap players who didn't know that all you have to do is stay 30m away while employing this basic diversion tactic to drop you. Heck, just staying 30 m away is sufficient in most circumstances. I had squad mates pushing them closer to me. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4372	Posted - 2013.12.05 15:40:00 - [26] - Quote Master Jaraiya wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Slag Emberforge wrote: HMG is not working as it should, but I agree with Cat on a couple counts. 1. CQC it is a beast if you shove the barrel down their throat and fill it full of bullets 2. Using cover is you best friend, tight buildings and halls are even better 3. It can be used effectively as area denial 4. It's fun! I'm prof 5 in AR, SMG, FG, but only prof 3 in HMG (let's face it the prof blows anyways) and I still use it in tight maps and for fun. Heh, I just spent the last of my unallocated SP on getting HMG to level V and Prof to level III. Totally worth it :D If you say so... Take it to PC against some decent players and tell me how much fun it is. Considering I have 22mil SP, and I am 100% competitive in PC with two rifles, two suits and two tanking types, for something to be worth it for me it just has to be fun. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4372	Posted - 2013.12.05 15:49:00 - [27] - Quote Master Jaraiya wrote: Cat Merc wrote: I had squad mates pushing them closer to me. Oh must be nice to have your squad feeding you kills in Pubs because half of the enemy team is in the redline sniping lol. Dude just stop. The HMG is broke af and if you think it's so fun take it into PC. I guarantee you will be singing a different tune. Pubs will be Pubs. Are you saying that I don't agree the HMG is broken? As I said before, I'm using it for the same reason people use the PLC. It's fun, and it's challenging. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4372	Posted - 2013.12.05 15:57:00 - [28] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: I'm not sure if it's me, but I've noticed some severe inconsistency with the ranging of HMGs lately. It may just be my imagination, but I'm starting to get outranged somehow by the exact same weapon I'm using. Assault HMG maybe? Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4372	Posted - 2013.12.05 16:23:00 - [29] - Quote CLONE117 wrote: buffing the total ammo of the hmg to 4k and raising the rof to 5k. maybe lowing the damage per hit down to 15 or 10 along with lowering overheat build up. buff the hmg clip size to 1k. leaving the rest the same. how powerful would this make the hmg? Kinda OP? The DPS would be 1250. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4372	Posted - 2013.12.05 16:33:00 - [30] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: I'm a logi and I have HMG proficiency at 4. Wat. No seriously, the HMG is badass if you know how to use it. It's just that it's best for specific situations...like camping an objective that is flooded with redberries, or defending a busy hallway. The only time I don't like using an HMG is if I'm running by myself, or on a big open map. As they said, it's good in pub matches against clueless redberries. But it needs help. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.

Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4373	Posted - 2013.12.05 17:15:00 - [31] - Quote Thoughts on this humans? https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1567186#post1567186 Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.