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Karl Marx II Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 263	Posted - 2013.12.04 04:09:00 - [61] - Quote Lurchasaurus wrote: Karl Marx II wrote: Lurchasaurus wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: I remember that time I was eating a Cinnamon raisin cookie and Karl Marx came up. Ended up killing him with one hand on the controller and the other hand not wanting to drop my cookie. Come at me bro, I'm more worried about getting cookie crumbs on my pants than you killing me.. Dude......nice...... @Karl - BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA figures Facepalm You really are gullible aren't you gullible for taking a post on the forums at face value? k ive never heard of you so i really could care less, heard of him tho If you could care less then that means that you do actually care because you just said that you COULD care less ... Facepalm You make this too easy My Theme
Tch Tch Red Shirts Away Team 31	Posted - 2013.12.04 04:09:00 - [62] - Quote Lurchasaurus wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Reading a lot of these responses about protos still being able to win in FW means the proto epeeners still don't get it. WE ARE NOT GOING TO BEAT YOU. WE ARE GOING TO MAKE YOU F*CK UP WITH ACCIDENTAL DEATHS. You will lose points and get kicked from your games. We will laugh. until you realize you cant stay alive in the intense fights we constantly thrive in and you die before getting anywhere close to the front of my gun... Umm that is what he is saying... they will use a blueberry alt that you shoot with your gun and lose faction standing. The idea isn't to kill you its to have you go blue on blue. Rather cruel and evil and I'm not sure what the counter is... Turrent - the sound a tankers pants makes when he finds out the four swarm militia doing squats around him aren't AFK.
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 1187	Posted - 2013.12.04 04:31:00 - [63] - Quote Karl Marx II wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Karl Marx II wrote: Seriously you stomped new players into the ground for the past 6 months in a meaningless game mode and now that they can affect YOUR fun in a purposeful FW gamemode you're calling them pathetic for saying that they are going to purposefully go out of their way to get revenge on you for protostomping them in pubgames. Sorry but you're deluded if you think you don't deserve it and DUST has needed something like this for a very long time. Your actions have consequences and for too long you've been able to get away with ruining other peoples fun so it is about time you got a taste of your own medicine. CCP have introduced some deterrents for doing it but you've only got yourself to blame when some blueberry kills you in FW .. if you hadn't gone out of your way to ruin their fun maybe they wouldn't go out of their way to ruin your fun. We all know full well certain corps will still protostomp pubgames (I'm looking at you Nyain San/War Ravens/Ancient Exiles/Maphia Clan/Rainbow Effect and probably a few more) so just be prepared to have everyones guns pointed at you if you take part in FW or better yet everyone should use scout suits and just try and get in the way of your bullets and jump on your grenades to make you lose standings with the faction. It's going to be alot of fun .. paybacks a *** (aka female dog) you should see what a wonderful thing when "Nyain San/War Ravens/Ancient Exiles/Maphia Clan/Rainbow Effect and probably a few more" just get into matches with starter fits and start shooting at blues indiscriminately n.n It's going to be alot of fun .. paybacks a *** (aka female dog) LOL Like any of you would actually use starter fits .. your talking nonsense as usual hm? I actually use an ADV Amarr Assault, when there's no full squad / no or few relevant players on the other side we often use starter fits, not everybody of course. Anyway, yeah, thank you for the free PR. Edit: Today we had 3 matches in FW against randoms in full proto, and I was still playing in ADV, while the others went PRO. Is that a shame? . __ `/.)\ spamming these = you have no opinion in anything Dust 514 related` \ __ /
Karl Marx II Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 266	Posted - 2013.12.04 08:17:00 - [64] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Karl Marx II wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Karl Marx II wrote: Seriously you stomped new players into the ground for the past 6 months in a meaningless game mode and now that they can affect YOUR fun in a purposeful FW gamemode you're calling them pathetic for saying that they are going to purposefully go out of their way to get revenge on you for protostomping them in pubgames. Sorry but you're deluded if you think you don't deserve it and DUST has needed something like this for a very long time. Your actions have consequences and for too long you've been able to get away with ruining other peoples fun so it is about time you got a taste of your own medicine. CCP have introduced some deterrents for doing it but you've only got yourself to blame when some blueberry kills you in FW .. if you hadn't gone out of your way to ruin their fun maybe they wouldn't go out of their way to ruin your fun. We all know full well certain corps will still protostomp pubgames (I'm looking at you Nyain San/War Ravens/Ancient Exiles/Maphia Clan/Rainbow Effect and probably a few more) so just be prepared to have everyones guns pointed at you if you take part in FW or better yet everyone should use scout suits and just try and get in the way of your bullets and jump on your grenades to make you lose standings with the faction. It's going to be alot of fun .. paybacks a *** (aka female dog) you should see what a wonderful thing when "Nyain San/War Ravens/Ancient Exiles/Maphia Clan/Rainbow Effect and probably a few more" just get into matches with starter fits and start shooting at blues indiscriminately n.n It's going to be alot of fun .. paybacks a *** (aka female dog) LOL Like any of you would actually use starter fits .. your talking nonsense as usual hm? I actually use an ADV Amarr Assault, when there's no full squad / no or few relevant players on the other side we often use starter fits, not everybody of course. Anyway, yeah, thank you for the free PR. Edit: Today we had 3 matches in FW against randoms in full proto, and I was still playing in ADV, while the others went PRO. Is that a shame? Today playing with a training corp in a squad of players using characters with below 1m SP we beat a full proto squad in FW in STD gear and this isn't a squad of experienced players using STD gear with maxed out core skills this is 1 experienced player and 5 new players with low SP characters managing to beat a much better geared and sp sinked team through teamwork .. So you were using ADV whilst the rest of your squad were using proto against a proto squad .. big deal .. beat them when your entire squad has 1m SP each and in STD gear against a proto squad and then get back to me My Theme
Protected Void Endless Hatred 192	Posted - 2013.12.04 08:24:00 - [65] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: ...they don't have to kill you, just keep damage on you, and no punishment... Not quite, I think; it's not just kills that count towards getting kicked. There's also a running counter on how much team damage you've done. Do too much, and you're kicked.
Acturus Galaxy Happy Pumpkin 247	Posted - 2013.12.04 08:33:00 - [66] - Quote Karl Marx II wrote: Seriously you stomped new players into the ground for the past 6 months in a meaningless game mode and now that they can affect YOUR fun in a purposeful FW gamemode you're calling them pathetic for saying that they are going to purposefully go out of their way to get revenge on you for protostomping them in pubgames. Sorry but you're deluded if you think you don't deserve it and DUST has needed something like this for a very long time. Your actions have consequences and for too long you've been able to get away with ruining other peoples fun so it is about time you got a taste of your own medicine. CCP have introduced some deterrents for doing it but you've only got yourself to blame when some blueberry kills you in FW .. if you hadn't gone out of your way to ruin their fun maybe they wouldn't go out of their way to ruin your fun. We all know full well certain corps will still protostomp pubgames (I'm looking at you Nyain San/War Ravens/Ancient Exiles/Maphia Clan/Rainbow Effect and probably a few more) so just be prepared to have everyones guns pointed at you if you take part in FW or better yet everyone should use scout suits and just try and get in the way of your bullets and jump on your grenades to make you lose standings with the faction. It's going to be alot of fun .. paybacks a ***** (aka female dog) I am normally against griefeing in anyway and would not hesitate to boot someone from my already very tiny corp if they purposely griefed others. However, I do like the option to griefe added in FW. Every action you take has consequences, in pub matches you could grief by stealing vehicles, dropping lavs on the head of snipers or protostomp the hell out of the red team etc. without the victims being able to retaliate. Now the victims will be able to retaliate settling scores and such, it might help decrease the general griefing as the griefers is no longer secure. This will definitely bring in some interesting dynamics, if you become infamous for being a prick you will have a hard time in FW. On the other hand if you are famous and honorable more will opt not to punish him for accidently team killing. I would not be surprised if some players are feeling nervous already
Protected Void Endless Hatred 192	Posted - 2013.12.04 08:43:00 - [67] - Quote ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: All i can say is Why? Why do it? Its completly ridiculous, If people do this then they are gonna ruin the experiance for everyone, their should be a Consenquece where the player that TK too much wont be allowed to Play DUST for 24 Hours. Well, there is, sort of. If you teamkill too much in a match, you get kicked. If you haven't accumulated quite a bit of standing with the faction you're playing for, "too much" is 1 kill. This Karl Marx II character is saying he'll be teamkilling on alts to not lose standing on his main. Which means he'll either have to waste hours accumulating standing to be allowed to teamkill to any large extent, or he'll have to waste a lot of time creating alt upon alt to have any noticable impact (and if does the latter, he'll be able to do 1 teamkill per match, thus not affect any single match greatly). Teamkilling is still a douche move, of course, but at least it's not just "follow someone around all match in a scout suit and cause teamkill after teamkill", like he seems to believe.
Karl Marx II Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 272	Posted - 2013.12.04 09:00:00 - [68] - Quote Protected Void wrote: ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: All i can say is Why? Why do it? Its completly ridiculous, If people do this then they are gonna ruin the experiance for everyone, their should be a Consenquece where the player that TK too much wont be allowed to Play DUST for 24 Hours. Well, there is, sort of. If you teamkill too much in a match, you get kicked. If you haven't accumulated quite a bit of standing with the faction you're playing for, "too much" is 1 kill. This Karl Marx II character is saying he'll be teamkilling on alts to not lose standing on his main. Which means he'll either have to waste hours accumulating standing to be allowed to teamkill to any large extent, or he'll have to waste a lot of time creating alt upon alt to have any noticable impact (and if does the latter, he'll be able to do 1 teamkill per match, thus not affect any single match greatly). Teamkilling is still a douche move, of course, but at least it's not just "follow someone around all match in a scout suit and cause teamkill after teamkill", like he seems to believe. Who said anything about throw away alts ? I have 4 different characters all with different racial gear to fight for each of the factions .. the TK will be based on what I can get away with to maintain my standing and over the course of time I'll be able to do it more and more as my standing is increased .. don't forget I said that I'll be doing it specifically against the people I hold grudges against .. not every game will involve those players and most of the time I'll play properley You seem to think I'll do it for the sake of it when in actual fact there is method to the madness .. it wont be done to everyone just a select few people who deserve it due to their past actions Right now the list stands at 17 players .. out of thousands that play this game that is a small pool so it really isn't going to be the waste of time you think it is lol My Theme
Sollemnis Aelinos 89th IMMORTAL ORDER 114	Posted - 2013.12.04 09:18:00 - [69] - Quote umm so is it wierd that i hv about 8 mil sp and still kill protos in my advance minja scout :/. nah im jk, ishukone nova knives can ohk most proto suits anyway lol Think about the reason you are born look inwars to learn the truth You'er born to develop your soul
Protected Void Endless Hatred 192	Posted - 2013.12.04 09:23:00 - [70] - Quote Karl Marx II wrote: Protected Void wrote: ThePlayerkyle13 wrote: All i can say is Why? Why do it? Its completly ridiculous, If people do this then they are gonna ruin the experiance for everyone, their should be a Consenquece where the player that TK too much wont be allowed to Play DUST for 24 Hours. Well, there is, sort of. If you teamkill too much in a match, you get kicked. If you haven't accumulated quite a bit of standing with the faction you're playing for, "too much" is 1 kill. This Karl Marx II character is saying he'll be teamkilling on alts to not lose standing on his main. Which means he'll either have to waste hours accumulating standing to be allowed to teamkill to any large extent, or he'll have to waste a lot of time creating alt upon alt to have any noticable impact (and if does the latter, he'll be able to do 1 teamkill per match, thus not affect any single match greatly). Teamkilling is still a douche move, of course, but at least it's not just "follow someone around all match in a scout suit and cause teamkill after teamkill", like he seems to believe. Who said anything about throw away alts ? I have 4 different characters all with different racial gear to fight for each of the factions .. the TK will be based on what I can get away with to maintain my standing and over the course of time I'll be able to do it more and more as my standing is increased .. don't forget I said that I'll be doing it specifically against the people I hold grudges against .. not every game will involve those players and most of the time I'll play properley You seem to think I'll do it for the sake of it when in actual fact there is method to the madness .. it wont be done to everyone just a select few people who deserve it due to their past actions Right now the list stands at 17 players .. out of thousands that play this game that is a small pool so it really isn't going to be the waste of time you think it is lol Well, ok, then it's within the confines of CCP's intention, I guess: allow some griefing for metagame purposes. Your initial posts made it seem like you were gonna constantly run around like a suicidal maniac. In any case, your teamkilling opportunities will be rather limited, since you'll: Have to actually end up in the same match as someone on your grudge list in the first place Have to repeatedly find them on the map to be able to grief them several times They'll be wary of you after the first kill Once they're wary of you, they'll be ready to avoid your friendly fire. If you can't kill them before their shields regenerate, your first attempt will add to the damage quota you're allowed before getting kicked. In any case, you'll have a hard time tracking how much team damage you've done in a match, so whenever you're pushing for multiple teamkills within one match, you'll run the risk of getting kicked and losing standing. Chances are some of the people on your grief list will have done quite a bit of FW before you get the opportunity to teamkill them. Consequently, they'll have built enough standing to shoot back when you're attacking them, without risking an immediate kick themselves. If they've been giving you problems in their proto suits in pub matches, I'm guessing they won't give you less problems when fighting you in FW matches.

Sollemnis Aelinos 89th IMMORTAL ORDER 114	Posted - 2013.12.04 09:23:00 - [71] - Quote (double post) Think about the reason you are born look inwars to learn the truth You'er born to develop your soul
Hin Raven Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2013.12.04 09:54:00 - [72] - Quote SteelDark Knight wrote: I am curious to see what the excuse will be when these squads switch to lower meta level gear and still dominate. Simply put if you think these players do what they do just because of the gear they wear then you are mistaken. I'm getting destroyed every game I go into because of proto gear but also because I'm still learning the game. To get a protosuit with all the core upgrades is going to take me a long time and when I eventually get there I will use them because they will give me a slight edge but I will still be beaten by better players. Protosuits will give me an advantage over someone at the same skill level as me wearing a lesser suit. The big name protostompers play this game a lot, they are great at this game because of the hours they have put into it and also probably MAG, call of duty, battlefield etc. New Eden is not a socilaist care bear EU sort of place, it's a brutal harsh galaxy and the stong stomp on the weak till the weak learn to become strong. I would like some hardcore protostompers to detail how long it took them to get good at this game but also how many other fps's they played as well so people can get a sense of the amount of time they spent getting their protosuits and getting good at fps's. I didn't notice friendly fire being abused in MAG. It would be too boring running around trying to find a player on the map just to try and make them friendly kill you. Some will do it but they'll get bored and most people play to win a game and not get themselves an assisted suicide.
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 379	Posted - 2013.12.04 10:05:00 - [73] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: My only concern rests with vehicle pilots. Currently it sounds FAR too harsh for them between the threat of being kicked and losing your expensive vehicle to some idiot blueberries idiocy, or the threat of idiot blueberries harassing you all game with AV and installations (they don't have to kill you, just keep damage on you, and no punishment). They're also welcome to take the kill shot if you're limping on home. Now all these things, I'm technically ok with. It adds brutality and backstabbing shenanigans to the game. The problem is the lack of team deploy, which would allow you to quality assure your players before entering the match. Currently I see little incentive to use vehicles in FW Punishments ARE FOR DAMAGE TOTALS AS WELL. You keep shooting them, but not killing them? hit the cap and you get kicked. If you can read this, it means you are reading. Unless you are skimming
Piraten Hovnoret No Tax Scrubs 124	Posted - 2013.12.04 10:10:00 - [74] - Quote Wow haven't been on the forums for a months or so and I find this nice flaming thing. First I want to win and get my standing maxed out as fast as it is possible. If you only bring militia/scrub stuff 2 the plate wtf bring your A game al the time now. I rather be in a 16 man proto team then a 16 militia scrub out for revenge team and getting the win. Second WY should I not bring proto gear? I started this game in late may this year I have 200 million isk and about 1500 fully fitted proto S and 150 fully fitted different droppships. Do I need more isk? WY? I have been in PC and its just crap, don't get me wrong I love PC but with the lag I just cant be asked to be bothered any more. That's WY I am really looking forward to the FW changes, maybe people will bring out there a game and the wins starts to matter, f-u-c-k yeah 32 players in full proto going at it THAT'S WHAT IT AL ABOUT not this militia/basic crap. I always go proto the problem with Rainbow/AE/NYAN etc etc going proto stomping is that they; A: they are al ( almost ) very good players B: they always bring out there best gear C: they are fighting against militia scrubs that cry a lot So to al the cry babies its time for you to bring out your best al of you. Its time to form squads, turn that head set on and start to playing the game to its full potential. Or you can shoot some one like me in the back and get a hard on doing it, just remember I am one of dose that goes al in against proto stompers question are you doing the same?
Spaceman-Rob Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 242	Posted - 2013.12.04 10:17:00 - [75] - Quote There will now be consequences for those who Continue to proto stomp, this can only be a good thing, maybe it's time for these shameless corps who partake in stomping dust into the ground to clean up their act.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2420	Posted - 2013.12.04 10:31:00 - [76] - Quote Karl Marx II wrote: Seriously you stomped new players into the ground for the past 6 months in a meaningless game mode and now that they can affect YOUR fun in a purposeful FW gamemode you're calling them pathetic for saying that they are going to purposefully go out of their way to get revenge on you for protostomping them in pubgames. Sorry but you're deluded if you think you don't deserve it and DUST has needed something like this for a very long time. Your actions have consequences and for too long you've been able to get away with ruining other peoples fun so it is about time you got a taste of your own medicine. CCP have introduced some deterrents for doing it but you've only got yourself to blame when some blueberry kills you in FW .. if you hadn't gone out of your way to ruin their fun maybe they wouldn't go out of their way to ruin your fun. We all know full well certain corps will still protostomp pubgames (I'm looking at you Nyain San/War Ravens/Ancient Exiles/Maphia Clan/Rainbow Effect and probably a few more) so just be prepared to have everyones guns pointed at you if you take part in FW or better yet everyone should use scout suits and just try and get in the way of your bullets and jump on your grenades to make you lose standings with the faction. It's going to be alot of fun .. paybacks a ***** (aka female dog) Oh man I am going to pull out the proto suits just for you. There's only one person whining here. No.
Cenex Langly 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 456	Posted - 2013.12.04 10:43:00 - [77] - Quote InsertCoinHere wrote: Proto pubstomping is fixing to increase 300% watch and see.....................as I shoot you in the azz..........again Haha Balls Deep!!! Newb
Broonfondle Majikthies Bannana Boat Corp Relentless Heroes Alliance 551	Posted - 2013.12.04 10:48:00 - [78] - Quote What about people that have proto, don't use it in pubs but care about FW? Why should they be punished? "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
Gideon McAllistar TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 52	Posted - 2013.12.04 11:21:00 - [79] - Quote I can't help but notice alot of hate towards squads doing their thing in proto gear. Gonna drop some friendly advice. Step 1) Get in a squad that works together. Step 2) 3 Complex damage mods. Step 3) ???? Step 4) PROFIT! If you're blue and you know it, get out of my tank. If you're blue and you know it, get out of my tank. . . Seriously.
Sarcastic Dreamkiller Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo 73	Posted - 2013.12.04 11:49:00 - [80] - Quote Karl Marx II wrote: calisk galern wrote: are we? all I here are whiney butt hurt no tries thinking they will rule fw because they can shoot us with their militia rifles. like that would stop me from removing you from my face. I'll run around in a militia scout suit with Kinetic catalyzers, follow you around all game and jump in front of you everytime you start firing your gun, jump on any grenades that you throw ... Who said anything about ruling FW ? Alot of the player base want revenge and now finally they have the option I'm going to have alot of fun with the new FW I'm sorry, but what survey was conducted to show that most of the playerbase wants revenge? Could you provide a link to it please?

Sarcastic Dreamkiller Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo 73	Posted - 2013.12.04 11:53:00 - [81] - Quote Spaceman-Rob wrote: There will now be consequences for those who Continue to proto stomp, this can only be a good thing, maybe it's time for these shameless corps who partake in stomping dust into the ground to clean up their act. Or they will just not participate in FW, or only join if they are on a team of their corpmates (which would only make the protostomping worse)
Gideon McAllistar TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 52	Posted - 2013.12.04 11:57:00 - [82] - Quote Sarcastic Dreamkiller wrote: Spaceman-Rob wrote: There will now be consequences for those who Continue to proto stomp, this can only be a good thing, maybe it's time for these shameless corps who partake in stomping dust into the ground to clean up their act. Or they will just not participate in FW, or only join if they are on a team of their corpmates (which would only make the protostomping worse) THAT. Pub will be Proto 24/7 and FW will be for cheap/ free fits. If you're blue and you know it, get out of my tank. If you're blue and you know it, get out of my tank. . . Seriously.
Sarcastic Dreamkiller Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo 73	Posted - 2013.12.04 12:00:00 - [83] - Quote Gideon McAllistar wrote: Sarcastic Dreamkiller wrote: Spaceman-Rob wrote: There will now be consequences for those who Continue to proto stomp, this can only be a good thing, maybe it's time for these shameless corps who partake in stomping dust into the ground to clean up their act. Or they will just not participate in FW, or only join if they are on a team of their corpmates (which would only make the protostomping worse) THAT. Pub will be Proto 24/7 and FW will be for cheap/ free fits. Exactly 1st rule of FW 1.7: Run cheap gear and get killed by the other team, or run proto gear and get killed by your team.
Gideon McAllistar TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 52	Posted - 2013.12.04 12:05:00 - [84] - Quote All the same, I've been saying it for months. I would love to TK useless, and/or speshul bluedots. If you're blue and you know it, get out of my tank. If you're blue and you know it, get out of my tank. . . Seriously.
Vyuru Bojo's School of the Trades 25	Posted - 2013.12.04 13:11:00 - [85] - Quote Quote: All i can say is Why? Why do it? Its completly ridiculous, If people do this then they are gonna ruin the experiance for everyone, their should be a Consenquece where the player that TK too much wont be allowed to Play DUST for 24 Hours. I could say the same thing about proto stomping. Had a game recently where a squad of WTF and a squad of Nyain San synced into a newbie game. Lag went through the roof, and it became almost impossible to hit the Nyain San fellows even when running behind them, in a straight line, under 3m distance, and shooting them in the back with a SG. Sorry, but I've played enough to know that I should be doing more damage than just tickling your shields. Still won, however it took a fun game and made it extremely not fun. Am I going to stomp the protostompers? Nah, they really aren't worth my time to hold a grudge against. I do see the exact same arguments though being used as reasons to go after them as was used to protostomp, so I am rather unsympathetic. You make the bed you lie in.
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 1192	Posted - 2013.12.04 13:50:00 - [86] - Quote Karl Marx II wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Karl Marx II wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Karl Marx II wrote: Seriously you stomped new players into the ground for the past 6 months in a meaningless game mode and now that they can affect YOUR fun in a purposeful FW gamemode you're calling them pathetic for saying that they are going to purposefully go out of their way to get revenge on you for protostomping them in pubgames. Sorry but you're deluded if you think you don't deserve it and DUST has needed something like this for a very long time. Your actions have consequences and for too long you've been able to get away with ruining other peoples fun so it is about time you got a taste of your own medicine. CCP have introduced some deterrents for doing it but you've only got yourself to blame when some blueberry kills you in FW .. if you hadn't gone out of your way to ruin their fun maybe they wouldn't go out of their way to ruin your fun. We all know full well certain corps will still protostomp pubgames (I'm looking at you Nyain San/War Ravens/Ancient Exiles/Maphia Clan/Rainbow Effect and probably a few more) so just be prepared to have everyones guns pointed at you if you take part in FW or better yet everyone should use scout suits and just try and get in the way of your bullets and jump on your grenades to make you lose standings with the faction. It's going to be alot of fun .. paybacks a *** (aka female dog) you should see what a wonderful thing when "Nyain San/War Ravens/Ancient Exiles/Maphia Clan/Rainbow Effect and probably a few more" just get into matches with starter fits and start shooting at blues indiscriminately n.n It's going to be alot of fun .. paybacks a *** (aka female dog) LOL Like any of you would actually use starter fits .. your talking nonsense as usual hm? I actually use an ADV Amarr Assault, when there's no full squad / no or few relevant players on the other side we often use starter fits, not everybody of course. Anyway, yeah, thank you for the free PR. Edit: Today we had 3 matches in FW against randoms in full proto, and I was still playing in ADV, while the others went PRO. Is that a shame? Today playing with a training corp in a squad of players using characters with below 1m SP we beat a full proto squad in FW in STD gear and this isn't a squad of experienced players using STD gear with maxed out core skills this is 1 experienced player and 5 new players with low SP characters managing to beat a much better geared and sp sinked team through teamwork .. So you were using ADV whilst the rest of your squad were using proto against a proto squad .. big deal .. beat them when your entire squad has 1m SP each and in STD gear against a proto squad and then get back to me The difference between you and me is that whilst you stomp new players to stroke your epeen to feel worth something I get my kicks from helping new players get better at the game and trying to pass on some of the things that I have learned over the 11 months I've been playing the game .. you and your corp put short term self gratification over helping DUST grow and become the game it has the potential to become .. if it could actually keep hold of players ... If you aren't parrt of the solution then you are part of the problem .. you take advantage of poor matchmaking to stomp new players and are equally to blame as CCP for having the broken system in place originally Anyway I'm clearly wasting my time with you and your corp as you refuse to listen to reason, I want this game to succeed so my dislike of your corp isn;t out of some self pity it is because I honestly believe that you are just 1 of the corps gettign in the way of what could be a great game Deh, wonderful flow of tears. Listen, to have the same gear I use, the same skills, the same HP I use in Pubs you just need 2 months. But yes, of course you refuse the idea and keep crying at protostomping. Me personally and the vast majority of players in corps you nominated have always been involved in enhancing the player experience since closed beta, and if you can't do a thing now, with this TTK, dropsuits flattening, weapons flattening, my friend, I can't really help you. Personally, I am one of those who wanted the drop suit flattening and lower TTK to help newberries stay in the game, if you want you can check my previous post (but you have to check five - six months ago). That's probably why you stomped that protosquad, so why moaning? you're achieving the same result with less expenses. . __ `/.)\ spamming these = you have no opinion in anything Dust 514 related` \ __ /
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5565	Posted - 2013.12.04 14:00:00 - [87] - Quote I could bring out my Ishukone Nova Knives, but the ZN-28s have already proven to be quite effective even as ADV weapons. CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
Tek Hound Death In Xcess Corporation 153	Posted - 2013.12.04 14:03:00 - [88] - Quote I almost never use my proto but I'm going to wear it now.I can't wait to see how many Greifers will stand in front of my PLC.I like getting kills with that weapon be it friend or foe. Come at me bro my PLC is hungry ps.Come get your ammo and don't mind the RE
ninja draco R 0 N 1 N 3	Posted - 2013.12.04 15:25:00 - [89] - Quote SteelDark Knight wrote: I am curious to see what the excuse will be when these squads switch to lower meta level gear and still dominate. Simply put if you think these players do what they do just because of the gear they wear then you are mistaken. protostompers have no skill and rely to much on their gear, they qsync together and pick their battles so that they are going against randoms and newer players who can't match their gear, so what you are describing will not happen, they will be to afraid to give up their protogear or they will switch to advanced and get owned, because suddenly they are no longer using their proto logi with 1000+ hp and their duvolle with damage mods
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 619	Posted - 2013.12.04 15:29:00 - [90] - Quote ninja draco wrote: SteelDark Knight wrote: I am curious to see what the excuse will be when these squads switch to lower meta level gear and still dominate. Simply put if you think these players do what they do just because of the gear they wear then you are mistaken. protostompers have no skill and rely to much on their gear, they qsync together and pick their battles so that they are going against randoms and newer players who can't match their gear, so what you are describing will not happen, they will be to afraid to give up their protogear or they will switch to advanced and get owned, because suddenly they are no longer using their proto logi with 1000+ hp and their duvolle with damage mods Sorry, you're only hitting a few of the players on the head. Yes. A lot of Proto-Pub-Stompers are afraid to lose suits and so they team up but that's probably 50% or less. The rest that we deem as Proto-Pub-Stompers are guys who have Proto who role with their corp or friends BECAUSE they work well with them. The latter kind of stompers, are the ones to be afraid of because if they get angry at whatever stunts you're pulling, they will pull out all of their suits and ISK to take you down while the former group would say eff it and AFK. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus



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