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KenKaniff69
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2013.12.03 16:26:00 -
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When I call in a sica, equal to a gunloggi in 1.7 without resist, a current advanced assault forge can two shot it with ease. Vehicles often "hang" on the bolas waiting to be dropped. This is absolute candy for an assault forge gun who can then kill it before it reaches the ground. The range is also a bit too long as well as a forge gun on top of home point can reach the back of the adjacent redzones. This needs to be looked at as if the pilot is not in the vehicle there is no way we can activate that wave of opportunity and are totally defenseless.
So about those vehicle locks...
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Zekain K
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
703
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Posted - 2013.12.03 16:28:00 -
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The solution is simple. Buff the bolas.
CALDARI MASTER RACE
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
492
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Posted - 2013.12.03 16:31:00 -
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KenKaniff69 wrote:When I call in a sica, equal to a gunloggi in 1.7 without resist, a current advanced assault forge can two shot it with ease. Vehicles often "hang" on the bolas waiting to be dropped. This is absolute candy for an assault forge gun who can then kill it before it reaches the ground. The range is also a bit too long as well as a forge gun on top of home point can reach the back of the adjacent redzones. This needs to be looked at as if the pilot is not in the vehicle there is no way we can activate that wave of opportunity and are totally defenseless.
QFT
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KenKaniff69
Fatal Absolution
951
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Posted - 2013.12.03 16:31:00 -
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Zekain K wrote:The solution is simple. Buff the bolas.
That's not the point. The vehicle itself dangling from the bolas can be two shotted by an assault forge as things stand right now.
So about those vehicle locks...
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Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
3194
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Posted - 2013.12.03 16:32:00 -
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As long as forges go untouched I'm not putting SP back into vehicles, oh no no no.
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KenKaniff69
Fatal Absolution
951
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Posted - 2013.12.03 16:33:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:KenKaniff69 wrote:When I call in a sica, equal to a gunloggi in 1.7 without resist, a current advanced assault forge can two shot it with ease. Vehicles often "hang" on the bolas waiting to be dropped. This is absolute candy for an assault forge gun who can then kill it before it reaches the ground. The range is also a bit too long as well as a forge gun on top of home point can reach the back of the adjacent redzones. This needs to be looked at as if the pilot is not in the vehicle there is no way we can activate that wave of opportunity and are totally defenseless. QFT
Uhm what? Is it balanced to not even let me get in my vehicle before it gets destroyed in under 4 seconds? The average time from stationary bolas to the time I board is around 4 seconds. Plus all my tank comes from my shield which would be totally gone in one shot.
So about those vehicle locks...
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KenKaniff69
Fatal Absolution
951
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Posted - 2013.12.03 16:43:00 -
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DAU Assault forge deals almost 2000 damage with prof 3 and two damage mods. Ishukone Assault forge deals roughly 2250 damage. This is every 1.875 seconds. This strips all of the shields of of a gunloggi and eats very deep into the armor of a Madrugar. Definitely needs to be adressed
So about those vehicle locks...
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Vitharr Foebane
Blood Money Mercenaries
301
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Posted - 2013.12.03 16:50:00 -
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KenKaniff69 wrote:When I call in a sica, equal to a gunloggi in 1.7 without resist, a current advanced assault forge can two shot it with ease. Vehicles often "hang" on the bolas waiting to be dropped. This is absolute candy for an assault forge gun who can then kill it before it reaches the ground. The range is also a bit too long as well as a forge gun on top of home point can reach the back of the adjacent redzones. This needs to be looked at as if the pilot is not in the vehicle there is no way we can activate that wave of opportunity and are totally defenseless.
You realize a large rail has double the fire rate and range of a FG right? If FGs get nerfed to oblivion it will come down to whoever gets a rail tank called in first. However that's ok because it's a tank and NOT OH SO SCARY AV!!!!11 Words don't even begin to describe my disgust right now...
How to make a Heavy Laser: 1.Take laser 2.Make it REALLY BIG 3.Give it to the heavy sobbing quietly in the corner.
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
492
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Posted - 2013.12.03 16:58:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:KenKaniff69 wrote:When I call in a sica, equal to a gunloggi in 1.7 without resist, a current advanced assault forge can two shot it with ease. Vehicles often "hang" on the bolas waiting to be dropped. This is absolute candy for an assault forge gun who can then kill it before it reaches the ground. The range is also a bit too long as well as a forge gun on top of home point can reach the back of the adjacent redzones. This needs to be looked at as if the pilot is not in the vehicle there is no way we can activate that wave of opportunity and are totally defenseless. You realize a large rail has double the fire rate and range of a FG right? If FGs get nerfed to oblivion it will come down to whoever gets a rail tank called in first. However that's ok because it's a tank and NOT OH SO SCARY AV!!!!11 Words don't even begin to describe my disgust right now...
No it is ok because that tanker is risking a boat load if ISK to have that capability. Also tanks and their possitions on the map can be easily determined and proper action can be taken accordingly.
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The Attorney General
ZionTCD
1497
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:00:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:
No it ok because that tanker is risking a boat load if ISK to have that capability. Also tanks and their possitions on the map can be easily determined and proper action can be taken accordingly.
You can make a very cheap railgun fit.
A good Forge fit is not cheap either. Especially considering how easily it can get roflstomped by infantry.
A forge is just as easy to locate, and their camping spots are just as well known.
If the render fixes they promised come about, then it will be very simple to counter a FG up high, because rail guns will actually work at range.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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The Attorney General
ZionTCD
1497
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:01:00 -
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KenKaniff69 wrote:
Uhm what? Is it balanced to not even let me get in my vehicle before it gets destroyed in under 4 seconds? The average time from stationary bolas to the time I board is around 4 seconds. Plus all my tank comes from my shield which would be totally gone in one shot.
If you call in a bolas in front of a FG, then yes, you deserve to lose your vehicle.
Relocate, and call it in somewhere else.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
1102
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:02:00 -
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Forge Guns will remain untouched as they (spare for the Assault variant) are the closet things to "balanced" underneath the Amarrian Commando suit.
For future reference, **** your tanks. You clearly don't have experience in the tanks of beta, otherwise you wouldn't ***** about them when the fact that rails are getting a hellish buff that far outweighs the Forge Gun's current state.
You people will never have your god tanks again.
SWEET MOTHER OF TERESA ON THE HOOD OF A MERCEDES BENZ, YOU SOUND LIKE A MAJESTIC EAGLE! DO YOU SING?!
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KenKaniff69
Fatal Absolution
951
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:05:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:KenKaniff69 wrote:
Uhm what? Is it balanced to not even let me get in my vehicle before it gets destroyed in under 4 seconds? The average time from stationary bolas to the time I board is around 4 seconds. Plus all my tank comes from my shield which would be totally gone in one shot.
If you call in a bolas in front of a FG, then yes, you deserve to lose your vehicle. Relocate, and call it in somewhere else.
I always call my possessions in behind cover. Whether or not Ivan decides to listen is a mystery.
So about those vehicle locks...
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chase rowland
The Enclave Syndicate
Dark Taboo
85
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:06:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:KenKaniff69 wrote:When I call in a sica, equal to a gunloggi in 1.7 without resist, a current advanced assault forge can two shot it with ease. Vehicles often "hang" on the bolas waiting to be dropped. This is absolute candy for an assault forge gun who can then kill it before it reaches the ground. The range is also a bit too long as well as a forge gun on top of home point can reach the back of the adjacent redzones. This needs to be looked at as if the pilot is not in the vehicle there is no way we can activate that wave of opportunity and are totally defenseless. You realize a large rail has double the fire rate and range of a FG right? If FGs get nerfed to oblivion it will come down to whoever gets a rail tank called in first. However that's ok because it's a tank and NOT OH SO SCARY AV!!!!11 Words don't even begin to describe my disgust right now...
wrong, I can do more dam faster and get better range too
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Vitharr Foebane
Blood Money Mercenaries
301
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:08:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:KenKaniff69 wrote:When I call in a sica, equal to a gunloggi in 1.7 without resist, a current advanced assault forge can two shot it with ease. Vehicles often "hang" on the bolas waiting to be dropped. This is absolute candy for an assault forge gun who can then kill it before it reaches the ground. The range is also a bit too long as well as a forge gun on top of home point can reach the back of the adjacent redzones. This needs to be looked at as if the pilot is not in the vehicle there is no way we can activate that wave of opportunity and are totally defenseless. You realize a large rail has double the fire rate and range of a FG right? If FGs get nerfed to oblivion it will come down to whoever gets a rail tank called in first. However that's ok because it's a tank and NOT OH SO SCARY AV!!!!11 Words don't even begin to describe my disgust right now... No it is ok because that tanker is risking a boat load if ISK to have that capability. Also tanks and their possitions on the map can be easily determined and proper action can be taken accordingly.
Where is the risk when NOTHING CAN TOUCH YOU? Swarms? NOPE! Forge Gun? NOPE! This would create an unbalanced high reward low risk situation that every tanker has been complaining about since uprising. But that's ok because you threw alot of money at it right?
How to make a Heavy Laser: 1.Take laser 2.Make it REALLY BIG 3.Give it to the heavy sobbing quietly in the corner.
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Vitharr Foebane
Blood Money Mercenaries
302
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:11:00 -
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chase rowland wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:KenKaniff69 wrote:When I call in a sica, equal to a gunloggi in 1.7 without resist, a current advanced assault forge can two shot it with ease. Vehicles often "hang" on the bolas waiting to be dropped. This is absolute candy for an assault forge gun who can then kill it before it reaches the ground. The range is also a bit too long as well as a forge gun on top of home point can reach the back of the adjacent redzones. This needs to be looked at as if the pilot is not in the vehicle there is no way we can activate that wave of opportunity and are totally defenseless. You realize a large rail has double the fire rate and range of a FG right? If FGs get nerfed to oblivion it will come down to whoever gets a rail tank called in first. However that's ok because it's a tank and NOT OH SO SCARY AV!!!!11 Words don't even begin to describe my disgust right now... wrong, I can do more dam faster and get better range too with my forge
Large rail 600 meters. FG 300 meters. If you think a FG out ranges a large rail, please tell me what drugs you are on cause I want some so my HMG out ranges an AR 
How to make a Heavy Laser: 1.Take laser 2.Make it REALLY BIG 3.Give it to the heavy sobbing quietly in the corner.
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KenKaniff69
Fatal Absolution
951
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:12:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:KenKaniff69 wrote:When I call in a sica, equal to a gunloggi in 1.7 without resist, a current advanced assault forge can two shot it with ease. Vehicles often "hang" on the bolas waiting to be dropped. This is absolute candy for an assault forge gun who can then kill it before it reaches the ground. The range is also a bit too long as well as a forge gun on top of home point can reach the back of the adjacent redzones. This needs to be looked at as if the pilot is not in the vehicle there is no way we can activate that wave of opportunity and are totally defenseless. You realize a large rail has double the fire rate and range of a FG right? If FGs get nerfed to oblivion it will come down to whoever gets a rail tank called in first. However that's ok because it's a tank and NOT OH SO SCARY AV!!!!11 Words don't even begin to describe my disgust right now... No it is ok because that tanker is risking a boat load if ISK to have that capability. Also tanks and their possitions on the map can be easily determined and proper action can be taken accordingly. Where is the risk when NOTHING CAN TOUCH YOU? Swarms? NOPE! Forge Gun? NOPE! This would create an unbalanced high reward low risk situation that every tanker has been complaining about since uprising. But that's ok because you threw alot of money at it right?
You know there is something called teamwork, right? Even the Sagaris could be brought down with proper coordination.
So about those vehicle locks...
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Ivy Zalinto
Bobbit's Hangmen
70
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:14:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:KenKaniff69 wrote:When I call in a sica, equal to a gunloggi in 1.7 without resist, a current advanced assault forge can two shot it with ease. Vehicles often "hang" on the bolas waiting to be dropped. This is absolute candy for an assault forge gun who can then kill it before it reaches the ground. The range is also a bit too long as well as a forge gun on top of home point can reach the back of the adjacent redzones. This needs to be looked at as if the pilot is not in the vehicle there is no way we can activate that wave of opportunity and are totally defenseless. You realize a large rail has double the fire rate and range of a FG right? If FGs get nerfed to oblivion it will come down to whoever gets a rail tank called in first. However that's ok because it's a tank and NOT OH SO SCARY AV!!!!11 Words don't even begin to describe my disgust right now...
Currently tanks have rendering issues past like...80 meters. I literally had to almost drive over someone the other day in my rail tank before I saw then. They died from my friendlies supporting my tank but not before putting three swarms into my shields.
I rather like the large railguns but until the rendering gets fixed, infantry has the advantage in this case.
Dedicated scout.
Caldari loyalist.
Pistol supremacy.
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The Attorney General
ZionTCD
1498
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:15:00 -
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chase rowland wrote:
wrong, I can do more dam faster and get better range too
with my forge
No you cannot.
FG range = 300m
Railgun range = 600m.
In no way does the forge shoot farther.
Damage:
FG w prof 5 and 2x CDM = 2286
Compressed particle cannon does 2274 with one damage mod and maxed turret skills.
So the damage race is pretty close. So considering that the railgun has double the range, is mounted on a vehicle, and has much more ammo than the fatty is pretty fair.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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The Attorney General
ZionTCD
1498
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:16:00 -
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KenKaniff69 wrote:
I always call my possessions in behind cover. Whether or not Ivan decides to listen is a mystery.
That is an issue with the bolas, not with the forge gun.
I fully agree that the bolas needs a buff.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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Ivy Zalinto
Bobbit's Hangmen
70
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:17:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:chase rowland wrote:
wrong, I can do more dam faster and get better range too
with my forge
No you cannot. FG range = 300m Railgun range = 600m. In no way does the forge shoot farther. Damage: FG w prof 5 and 2x CDM = 2286 Compressed particle cannon does 2274 with one damage mod and maxed turret skills. So the damage race is pretty close. So considering that the railgun has double the range, is mounted on a vehicle, and has much more ammo than the fatty is pretty fair.
Your forgetting that forge fattes move around 124km ;)
Dedicated scout.
Caldari loyalist.
Pistol supremacy.
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Orenji Jiji
296
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:19:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:chase rowland wrote:
wrong, I can do more dam faster and get better range too
with my forge
No you cannot. FG range = 300m Railgun range = 600m. In no way does the forge shoot farther. Damage: FG w prof 5 and 2x CDM = 2286 Compressed particle cannon does 2274 with one damage mod and maxed turret skills. So the damage race is pretty close. So considering that the railgun has double the range, is mounted on a vehicle, and has much more ammo than the fatty is pretty fair.
You seem to be driving a tank but not being a crying manbaby.
This does not compute!
SL dumbfire, DS bumpercars, tank godmode, working NKs. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
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Vitharr Foebane
Blood Money Mercenaries
302
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:19:00 -
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KenKaniff69 wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:KenKaniff69 wrote:When I call in a sica, equal to a gunloggi in 1.7 without resist, a current advanced assault forge can two shot it with ease. Vehicles often "hang" on the bolas waiting to be dropped. This is absolute candy for an assault forge gun who can then kill it before it reaches the ground. The range is also a bit too long as well as a forge gun on top of home point can reach the back of the adjacent redzones. This needs to be looked at as if the pilot is not in the vehicle there is no way we can activate that wave of opportunity and are totally defenseless. You realize a large rail has double the fire rate and range of a FG right? If FGs get nerfed to oblivion it will come down to whoever gets a rail tank called in first. However that's ok because it's a tank and NOT OH SO SCARY AV!!!!11 Words don't even begin to describe my disgust right now... No it is ok because that tanker is risking a boat load if ISK to have that capability. Also tanks and their possitions on the map can be easily determined and proper action can be taken accordingly. Where is the risk when NOTHING CAN TOUCH YOU? Swarms? NOPE! Forge Gun? NOPE! This would create an unbalanced high reward low risk situation that every tanker has been complaining about since uprising. But that's ok because you threw alot of money at it right? You know there is something called teamwork, right? Even the Sagaris could be brought down with proper coordination.
So we need to coordinate to kill tanks that simply remove all turrets so noone else can get in WHILE THEY SOLO STOMP? That's totally balanced...
How to make a Heavy Laser: 1.Take laser 2.Make it REALLY BIG 3.Give it to the heavy sobbing quietly in the corner.
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The Attorney General
ZionTCD
1500
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:28:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:
So we need to coordinate to kill tanks that simply remove all turrets so noone else can get in WHILE THEY SOLO STOMP? That's totally balanced...
No need for the drama.
Tanks will still be killable, just instead of limp wristed scrubs with swarms and AV nades, it will now require the fat suit and a forge.
Giving the heavy an actual job to do is a step in the right direction for everyone who wants an interesting game instead of medium frames everywhere.
Bad AV will always need to work together to take down a good tanker. Not because tanks are OP, but because people don't seem to consider that good tankers have lots of experience fighting AV, but most AV has never even seen a good tanker. I don't tank without seeing proto swarms and AV, all game. SO I know how to fight it, and how to escape.
Bad tankers will always get solo'd as long as the person attacking them is not an idiot. Unfortunately, OP AV made far too many players lazy when it comes to AV.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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Vitharr Foebane
Blood Money Mercenaries
302
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:32:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:
So we need to coordinate to kill tanks that simply remove all turrets so noone else can get in WHILE THEY SOLO STOMP? That's totally balanced...
No need for the drama. Tanks will still be killable, just instead of limp wristed scrubs with swarms and AV nades, it will now require the fat suit and a forge. Giving the heavy an actual job to do is a step in the right direction for everyone who wants an interesting game instead of medium frames everywhere. Bad AV will always need to work together to take down a good tanker. Not because tanks are OP, but because people don't seem to consider that good tankers have lots of experience fighting AV, but most AV has never even seen a good tanker. I don't tank without seeing proto swarms and AV, all game. SO I know how to fight it, and how to escape. Bad tankers will always get solo'd as long as the person attacking them is not an idiot. Unfortunately, OP AV made far too many players lazy when it comes to AV.
I am the Fattie with a Forge. I just get tired people want a Heavy to be useless eHP cocoon for their ARs. I guess I'm a lil' overprotective of my heavy weaponry 
How to make a Heavy Laser: 1.Take laser 2.Make it REALLY BIG 3.Give it to the heavy sobbing quietly in the corner.
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
493
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:35:00 -
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KenKaniff69 wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:KenKaniff69 wrote:When I call in a sica, equal to a gunloggi in 1.7 without resist, a current advanced assault forge can two shot it with ease. Vehicles often "hang" on the bolas waiting to be dropped. This is absolute candy for an assault forge gun who can then kill it before it reaches the ground. The range is also a bit too long as well as a forge gun on top of home point can reach the back of the adjacent redzones. This needs to be looked at as if the pilot is not in the vehicle there is no way we can activate that wave of opportunity and are totally defenseless. You realize a large rail has double the fire rate and range of a FG right? If FGs get nerfed to oblivion it will come down to whoever gets a rail tank called in first. However that's ok because it's a tank and NOT OH SO SCARY AV!!!!11 Words don't even begin to describe my disgust right now... No it is ok because that tanker is risking a boat load if ISK to have that capability. Also tanks and their possitions on the map can be easily determined and proper action can be taken accordingly. Where is the risk when NOTHING CAN TOUCH YOU? Swarms? NOPE! Forge Gun? NOPE! This would create an unbalanced high reward low risk situation that every tanker has been complaining about since uprising. But that's ok because you threw alot of money at it right? You know there is something called teamwork, right? Even the Sagaris could be brought down with proper coordination.
No they just want it to be solo EZ-mode taking down multi million ISK/SP pices of equipment with two shots form 3 or 4 hundred meters away from an elivated position and a partially or mostly covered target that is moving and about the size of an ant, in a fitting that cost one tenth the price, an that is only if you can actually locate the target at those distances before he gets his two shot off.
These people dont have any concept of balance because it doesn't serve their interest, or they have never spent any real time in a tank and are just talking out their ***, because they wnan EZ-solo-tank-mode.
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The Attorney General
ZionTCD
1500
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:42:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:I am the Fattie with a Forge. I just get tired people want a Heavy to be useless eHP cocoon for their ARs. I guess I'm a lil' overprotective of my heavy weaponry
I as well have a fat suit alt, with a prof 5 forge and all the fixings.
It is absolutely easy mode to take down tanks right now.
Proto fluxes and one forge shot for any shield tank.
Proto AV's and a forge shot for every armor tank.
Hurray for difficulty.
In the next patch, with AV grenades getting a nerf, there may be some hope for armor tanks, but shield tankers are f'd. They just don't know it yet because they think the eHP numbers are going to matter.
Could the forge use a nerf? Maybe, but lets wait and see what happens in the next patch before we go calling for one.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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Vitharr Foebane
Blood Money Mercenaries
302
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:50:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:I am the Fattie with a Forge. I just get tired people want a Heavy to be useless eHP cocoon for their ARs. I guess I'm a lil' overprotective of my heavy weaponry I as well have a fat suit alt, with a prof 5 forge and all the fixings. It is absolutely easy mode to take down tanks right now. Proto fluxes and one forge shot for any shield tank. Proto AV's and a forge shot for every armor tank. Hurray for difficulty. In the next patch, with AV grenades getting a nerf, there may be some hope for armor tanks, but shield tankers are f'd. They just don't know it yet because they think the eHP numbers are going to matter. Could the forge use a nerf? Maybe, but lets wait and see what happens in the next patch before we go calling for one.
I appreciate reasonable people like you, as you guys keep me from despising ALL pilots. As soon as I get my heavy laser i'm gonna be like screw FG, screw HMG, hello rave cannon
How to make a Heavy Laser: 1.Take laser 2.Make it REALLY BIG 3.Give it to the heavy sobbing quietly in the corner.
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The Attorney General
ZionTCD
1502
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:54:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:
As soon as I get my heavy laser i'm gonna be like screw FG, screw HMG, hello rave cannon
Just wait until my tank gets a Scarmbler large turret for infantry, and a Beam Laser for anti tanks.
"Where is that sniper?"
*activates laser pointer*
"Right there!"
That will be the easiest way to train a squad to team fire properly. Everyone shoot at the guy with the laser in his face.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
378
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Posted - 2013.12.03 18:04:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:chase rowland wrote:
wrong, I can do more dam faster and get better range too
with my forge
Large rail 600 meters. FG 300 meters. If you think a FG out ranges a large rail, please tell me what drugs you are on cause I want some so my HMG out ranges an AR
Targets for FG render at 300m.
Targets for tanks render at 100 or less.
If rendering was fixed you'd have a point but since you obviously do not use a tank you look like an idiot claiming we can easily shoot something that isn't there.
If you can read this, it means you are reading.
Unless you are skimming
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Ninjanomyx
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
467
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Posted - 2013.12.03 18:22:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:chase rowland wrote:
wrong, I can do more dam faster and get better range too
with my forge
Large rail 600 meters. FG 300 meters. If you think a FG out ranges a large rail, please tell me what drugs you are on cause I want some so my HMG out ranges an AR Targets for FG render at 300m. Targets for tanks render at 100 or less. If rendering was fixed you'd have a point but since you obviously do not use a tank you look like an idiot claiming we can easily shoot something that isn't there.
I successfully OHKO Caspers all day son!!!!! GOML Brosephina  |
DRASTYCK MEAXUREZ
CoRp KiLLeRz
28
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Posted - 2013.12.03 18:31:00 -
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KenKaniff69 wrote:When I call in a sica, equal to a gunloggi in 1.7 without resist, a current advanced assault forge can two shot it with ease. Vehicles often "hang" on the bolas waiting to be dropped. This is absolute candy for an assault forge gun who can then kill it before it reaches the ground. The range is also a bit too long as well as a forge gun on top of home point can reach the back of the adjacent redzones. This needs to be looked at as if the pilot is not in the vehicle there is no way we can activate that wave of opportunity and are totally defenseless.
no vehicles for u!!!.. if I can help it .. hahahahahahhah!
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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2013.12.03 18:34:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:
Targets for FG render at 300m.
Targets for tanks render at 100 or less.
If rendering was fixed you'd have a point but since you obviously do not use a tank you look like an idiot claiming we can easily shoot something that isn't there.
That is an issue with rendering, not with the forge.
Besides, the rail can still blap a chevron at 599, while a forge cannot.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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Ninjanomyx
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Posted - 2013.12.03 18:35:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:I am the Fattie with a Forge. I just get tired people want a Heavy to be useless eHP cocoon for their ARs. I guess I'm a lil' overprotective of my heavy weaponry I as well have a fat suit alt, with a prof 5 forge and all the fixings. It is absolutely easy mode to take down tanks right now. Proto fluxes and one forge shot for any shield tank. Proto AV's and a forge shot for every armor tank. Hurray for difficulty. In the next patch, with AV grenades getting a nerf, there may be some hope for armor tanks, but shield tankers are f'd. They just don't know it yet because they think the eHP numbers are going to matter. Could the forge use a nerf? Maybe, but lets wait and see what happens in the next patch before we go calling for one. I appreciate reasonable people like you, as you guys keep me from despising ALL pilots. As soon as I get my heavy laser i'm gonna be like screw FG, screw HMG, hello rave cannon
The AFG DPS should be swapped with the Standard Variant & the Projectile Size should be swapped with Rail Turrets. This was my only real issue with Forges. Considering the Reps on Armor will be both "Fixed" & completely altered.....the DPS may prove overwhelming to all Vehicles in 1.7. Rep Tools need a Vehicle/Installation Rep Buff tbh, & WP for "Spidering".
We'll see how it all plays out in 1.7.......
Personally I want to be "Killable", as we currently are (Especially Shield Tanks.....), but not 2HKOable..... What's the point of spawning a High DPS Giant Hitbox vs a "Safe" Hurtbox if we cannot move past the Mole Hill near the Redline??? The current Price-Point "Pigeonholes" Tanks & Dropships into a conundrum..... It's either be GOD & never die or be dead & go broke every single Match. This is the KEY ISSUE..... |
Vitharr Foebane
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Posted - 2013.12.03 18:36:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:chase rowland wrote:
wrong, I can do more dam faster and get better range too
with my forge
Large rail 600 meters. FG 300 meters. If you think a FG out ranges a large rail, please tell me what drugs you are on cause I want some so my HMG out ranges an AR Targets for FG render at 300m. Targets for tanks render at 100 or less. If rendering was fixed you'd have a point but since you obviously do not use a tank you look like an idiot claiming we can easily shoot something that isn't there.
Resorting to personal attacks since logic wont work eh? NEWSFLASH! RENDERING IS FIXED IN 1.7! If it works as well as the hit detection fix you have NOTHING to worry about and will be able to redline rail as much as you want.
How to make a Heavy Laser: 1.Take laser 2.Make it REALLY BIG 3.Give it to the heavy sobbing quietly in the corner.
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