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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:00:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:
No it ok because that tanker is risking a boat load if ISK to have that capability. Also tanks and their possitions on the map can be easily determined and proper action can be taken accordingly.
You can make a very cheap railgun fit.
A good Forge fit is not cheap either. Especially considering how easily it can get roflstomped by infantry.
A forge is just as easy to locate, and their camping spots are just as well known.
If the render fixes they promised come about, then it will be very simple to counter a FG up high, because rail guns will actually work at range.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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The Attorney General
ZionTCD
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:01:00 -
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KenKaniff69 wrote:
Uhm what? Is it balanced to not even let me get in my vehicle before it gets destroyed in under 4 seconds? The average time from stationary bolas to the time I board is around 4 seconds. Plus all my tank comes from my shield which would be totally gone in one shot.
If you call in a bolas in front of a FG, then yes, you deserve to lose your vehicle.
Relocate, and call it in somewhere else.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:15:00 -
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chase rowland wrote:
wrong, I can do more dam faster and get better range too
with my forge
No you cannot.
FG range = 300m
Railgun range = 600m.
In no way does the forge shoot farther.
Damage:
FG w prof 5 and 2x CDM = 2286
Compressed particle cannon does 2274 with one damage mod and maxed turret skills.
So the damage race is pretty close. So considering that the railgun has double the range, is mounted on a vehicle, and has much more ammo than the fatty is pretty fair.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:16:00 -
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KenKaniff69 wrote:
I always call my possessions in behind cover. Whether or not Ivan decides to listen is a mystery.
That is an issue with the bolas, not with the forge gun.
I fully agree that the bolas needs a buff.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:28:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:
So we need to coordinate to kill tanks that simply remove all turrets so noone else can get in WHILE THEY SOLO STOMP? That's totally balanced...
No need for the drama.
Tanks will still be killable, just instead of limp wristed scrubs with swarms and AV nades, it will now require the fat suit and a forge.
Giving the heavy an actual job to do is a step in the right direction for everyone who wants an interesting game instead of medium frames everywhere.
Bad AV will always need to work together to take down a good tanker. Not because tanks are OP, but because people don't seem to consider that good tankers have lots of experience fighting AV, but most AV has never even seen a good tanker. I don't tank without seeing proto swarms and AV, all game. SO I know how to fight it, and how to escape.
Bad tankers will always get solo'd as long as the person attacking them is not an idiot. Unfortunately, OP AV made far too many players lazy when it comes to AV.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:42:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:I am the Fattie with a Forge. I just get tired people want a Heavy to be useless eHP cocoon for their ARs. I guess I'm a lil' overprotective of my heavy weaponry 
I as well have a fat suit alt, with a prof 5 forge and all the fixings.
It is absolutely easy mode to take down tanks right now.
Proto fluxes and one forge shot for any shield tank.
Proto AV's and a forge shot for every armor tank.
Hurray for difficulty.
In the next patch, with AV grenades getting a nerf, there may be some hope for armor tanks, but shield tankers are f'd. They just don't know it yet because they think the eHP numbers are going to matter.
Could the forge use a nerf? Maybe, but lets wait and see what happens in the next patch before we go calling for one.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:54:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:
As soon as I get my heavy laser i'm gonna be like screw FG, screw HMG, hello rave cannon
Just wait until my tank gets a Scarmbler large turret for infantry, and a Beam Laser for anti tanks.
"Where is that sniper?"
*activates laser pointer*
"Right there!"
That will be the easiest way to train a squad to team fire properly. Everyone shoot at the guy with the laser in his face.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2013.12.03 18:34:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:
Targets for FG render at 300m.
Targets for tanks render at 100 or less.
If rendering was fixed you'd have a point but since you obviously do not use a tank you look like an idiot claiming we can easily shoot something that isn't there.
That is an issue with rendering, not with the forge.
Besides, the rail can still blap a chevron at 599, while a forge cannot.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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