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KING CHECKMATE wrote:

Sinboto Simmons wrote:

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

Pokey Dravon wrote:

Yeah Patrick has it right, I dont think the other weapons are really in question, just the AR and Scrambler Rifle are in question.

Well yesterday i went vs 2 Guys with Freedom Mass drivers and i had to take out my Proto Cal Logi because my scout would get 1HKO'd by them (350EHP) and i couldnt kill them with 2 CRG-3 Shots... : /
I tried until i died 5 times in a row.
And my scout is a Minny scout with more SHIELDS than armor.

I guess with a decrease of 20% To TTK to SCR and AR's Next to a slight 25% HP buff for scouts could help... :/

Hp buff for scouts huh?

On the MD bit either:

A: They were hitting you at the same time and you didn't notice.

or

B:They were using damage mods

If you were an armor scout I'd say they just hit you directly but as a Proto Minja a freedom wouldn't one shot you without the conditions above.

Im going with dam mods, since they were BOTH Gal Logis Proto (lol you dont say) Probably prof 5 plus 2 Cx dam mods were at hand.
Stil li couldnt feel the ''shield penalty'' on them at all... : /

If it was option #1 then they were very synchronized,since it happened 5 times in a ROW . LOL XD

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KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2684	Posted - 2013.12.03 03:34:00 - [1] - Quote If TTK would to be increase i would have a terrible time. I already struggle with the Shoutgun/SMG's at close quarters, and if it took MORE time to drop enemies then they would have EVEN MORE time to counter me. Example of something really common in my case: GÖªGet behind 3 Guys GÖªUse Breach SG on one= DEAD GÖªUse breach SG on the other one= Barely alive GÖªChange SMG = 2nd is Dead GÖªShoot at 3rd = Im dead GÖªGet 25wp for the assist. Now if TTK WOULD TO BE INCREASED it would be: GÖªGet behind 3 guys GÖªUse Breach SG = Take out shields GÖª Use Breach SG again = Kill Red dot GÖªTake out SMG=Hurt 2nd Red dot GÖªDie in the proces GÖªGet T-bagged and a note from CCP saying: '' Why...just ...Why would you run in a scout...'' OF COURSE heavies and Commandos would benefit, but there must be another way.... Increase To TTK is ANOTHER STEALTH NERF to scouts, that already depend on very LIMITED TIME FRAME to take out their targets. Support SCOUTS : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=124408&find=unread
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 1874	Posted - 2013.12.03 03:35:00 - [2] - Quote Increase TTK on ARs and Scrambler Rifles. That's right, NERF BOTH MY WEAPONS!!! When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE!
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2684	Posted - 2013.12.03 03:35:00 - [3] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Increase TTK on ARs and Scrambler Rifles. That's right, NERF BOTH MY WEAPONS!!! Well i guess that could work... Shame about the SCR thou... : / Support SCOUTS : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=124408&find=unread
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1157	Posted - 2013.12.03 03:36:00 - [4] - Quote Yeah Patrick has it right, I dont think the other weapons are really in question, just the AR and Scrambler Rifle are in question. ADS Reports - Defining Racial Themes
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2685	Posted - 2013.12.03 03:41:00 - [5] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Yeah Patrick has it right, I dont think the other weapons are really in question, just the AR and Scrambler Rifle are in question. Well yesterday i went vs 2 Guys with Freedom Mass drivers and i had to take out my Proto Cal Logi because my scout would get 1HKO'd by them (350EHP) and i couldnt kill them with 2 CRG-3 Shots... : / I tried until i died 5 times in a row. And my scout is a Minny scout with more SHIELDS than armor. I guess with a decrease of 20% To TTK to SCR and AR's Next to a slight 25% HP buff for scouts could help... :/ Support SCOUTS : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=124408&find=unread
Aisha Ctarl 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 1942	Posted - 2013.12.03 03:41:00 - [6] - Quote Nerf my SCR and the world burns...I'll find a way to ensure Apophis hits in 2032, mark my words "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited." -The Code of Demeanor
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2685	Posted - 2013.12.03 03:44:00 - [7] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Nerf my SCR and the world burns...I'll find a way to ensure Apophis hits in 2032, mark my words Aisha. Im a day 1 SCR user and i know that the SCR has way too much effectiveness at CQ. But nevertheless, this is not a SCR nerf thread.... (even as a Scout i dont get killed by SCRs a lot, like once every 5 maches..) Is more like a Scout Buff one.... Support SCOUTS : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=124408&find=unread
Cody Sietz Unkn0wn Killers Renegade Alliance 1680	Posted - 2013.12.03 03:46:00 - [8] - Quote I'd like to just increase the sky on the shotgun. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 135	Posted - 2013.12.03 03:47:00 - [9] - Quote Message from Godin: Niche weapons are fine. nerf the rifles.
True Adamance Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4501	Posted - 2013.12.03 03:50:00 - [10] - Quote ScR mate....just head shot them. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2687	Posted - 2013.12.03 03:51:00 - [11] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: I'd like to just increase the sky on the shotgun. But bro, its not hte only weapon scouts use! i Use Specially Breach SG AND SMG's. 1st: i scan and look for targets 2nd: i follow the targets and wait for them to be ALONE or distracted 3rd:I get VERY close before starting shooting 4th: I start shooting ,they turn around, 1Spray and Pray with AR and in 1 second im down... >..> SMGs need to be MORE effective than regular Light weapons at CQ too.... Example: PROTO BREACH SMG: GÖªGreat Hipfire GÖª34.4 Damage per bullet GÖª550 Rof GÖª 20mts Range Standard AR: GÖªGreat Hipfire GÖª34 Damage per bullet GÖª750 RoF GÖª55+ mts Range I mean , SERIOUSLY? The AR works THE SAME AS AN SMG at close quarters.... only HITTING HARDER!!! (note i compared the PROTO SMG with a STD AR,and STD AR costs LESS CPU/PG to equip,Less ISK, ans STILL,does more damage) Support SCOUTS : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=124408&find=unread
Cody Sietz Unkn0wn Killers Renegade Alliance 1680	Posted - 2013.12.03 03:52:00 - [12] - Quote I meant to type dmg but I phone auto corrected. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2687	Posted - 2013.12.03 03:52:00 - [13] - Quote True Adamance wrote: ScR mate....just head shot them. I dont use the SCR outside my Amarr assault. :3 1st- I just looks wrong 2nd-I wouldt taint a Amarr Laser weapon with the stink of a Gallente or Matari suit... Support SCOUTS : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=124408&find=unread
Aisha Ctarl 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 1942	Posted - 2013.12.03 03:53:00 - [14] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: Nerf my SCR and the world burns...I'll find a way to ensure Apophis hits in 2032, mark my words Aisha. Im a day 1 SCR user and i know that the SCR has way too much effectiveness at CQ. But nevertheless, this is not a SCR nerf thread.... (even as a Scout i dont get killed by SCRs a lot, like once every 5 maches..) Is more like a Scout Buff one.... Oh I know, I just want CCP to be aware. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited." -The Code of Demeanor
Cosgar ParagonX 8227	Posted - 2013.12.03 03:56:00 - [15] - Quote Let's call a spade a spade here. We all know it's the goddamned rifles. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2691	Posted - 2013.12.03 04:16:00 - [16] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Let's call a spade a spade here. We all know it's the goddamned rifles. Well Mostly Disperion and RANGe issues TBQH. The AR hits at very long ranges without dispersion and the SCR can be used as a CQ weapon effectively while having a glitch that nullifies its penalty. Support SCOUTS : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=124408&find=unread
Tch Tch Red Shirts Away Team 25	Posted - 2013.12.03 04:29:00 - [17] - Quote 3 guys close together... RE. Sure you are dead but you were going to die anyhow. Except now it is 150 WP not 125 and you save one of your team mates some ammo, think of it as an honorary team resupply Turrent - the sound a tankers pants makes when he finds out the four swarm militia doing squats around him aren't AFK.
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2692	Posted - 2013.12.03 04:35:00 - [18] - Quote Tch Tch wrote: 3 guys close together... RE. Sure you are dead but you were going to die anyhow. Except now it is 150 WP not 125 and you save one of your team mates some ammo, think of it as an honorary team resupply ACtually. The situation mentioned above is Vs people who know what they are doing. Vs Randoms/bad Corps, i usually get all of them. (And if i get lucky, EVEN vs players that DO know wht they are doing!) R/E i have those only to deal with Proto Stompers.And i WILL NEVER commit suicide on purpose...i dont know...its just me... contrary of what many might think here in the forums, im a pretty decent player with above average gungame... (enough to get kills with Breach SMG's....) Support SCOUTS : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=124408&find=unread
Tch Tch Red Shirts Away Team 25	Posted - 2013.12.03 04:49:00 - [19] - Quote Oh if I want to commit suicide I jump in a drop ship. I'm also guilty of dropping an RE quick toggle to rifle and zoom er boom. Turrent - the sound a tankers pants makes when he finds out the four swarm militia doing squats around him aren't AFK.
Ivy Zalinto Bobbit's Hangmen 65	Posted - 2013.12.03 05:00:00 - [20] - Quote Id just like to see more weapons taking the field in general. Too many ar's and scr's...Its worse than cod4 when all anyone used was the m16a4...And martydom. Time to kill doesnt need to be increased by any means. Honestly I dont think a hp buff would be good for any suits, including the scouts. Give us more hp and a lot more people would suddenly be running them. We do need a buff somehow though. Time to kill is fine as is, just nerf the god weapons to a fair and balanced level. Dedicated scout. Caldari loyalist. Pistol supremacy.
Cosgar ParagonX 8241	Posted - 2013.12.03 05:00:00 - [21] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Cosgar wrote: Let's call a spade a spade here. We all know it's the goddamned rifles. Well Mostly Disperion and RANGe issues TBQH. The AR hits at very long ranges without dispersion and the SCR can be used as a CQ weapon effectively while having a glitch that nullifies its penalty. They were balanced around bat hit detection and horribly gunplay mechanics. Time for a reevaluation. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Tch Tch Red Shirts Away Team 25	Posted - 2013.12.03 05:06:00 - [22] - Quote Maybe add extra damage for a backshot if you are not on their scanner. Say 5% per scout level. Or just use scrambler pistol. I've had a lot of fun creeping up behind tunnel vision snipers and head shooting them at close range :) Turrent - the sound a tankers pants makes when he finds out the four swarm militia doing squats around him aren't AFK.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2613	Posted - 2013.12.03 05:07:00 - [23] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Yeah Patrick has it right, I dont think the other weapons are really in question, just the AR and Scrambler Rifle are in question. Well yesterday i went vs 2 Guys with Freedom Mass drivers and i had to take out my Proto Cal Logi because my scout would get 1HKO'd by them (350EHP) and i couldnt kill them with 2 CRG-3 Shots... : / I tried until i died 5 times in a row. And my scout is a Minny scout with more SHIELDS than armor. I guess with a decrease of 20% To TTK to SCR and AR's Next to a slight 25% HP buff for scouts could help... :/ Hp buff for scouts huh? On the MD bit either: A: They were hitting you at the same time and you didn't notice. or B:They were using damage mods If you were an armor scout I'd say they just hit you directly but as a Proto Minja a freedom wouldn't one shot you without the conditions above. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja. Forum Warrior level 2 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2697	Posted - 2013.12.03 05:13:00 - [24] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Yeah Patrick has it right, I dont think the other weapons are really in question, just the AR and Scrambler Rifle are in question. Well yesterday i went vs 2 Guys with Freedom Mass drivers and i had to take out my Proto Cal Logi because my scout would get 1HKO'd by them (350EHP) and i couldnt kill them with 2 CRG-3 Shots... : / I tried until i died 5 times in a row. And my scout is a Minny scout with more SHIELDS than armor. I guess with a decrease of 20% To TTK to SCR and AR's Next to a slight 25% HP buff for scouts could help... :/ Hp buff for scouts huh? On the MD bit either: A: They were hitting you at the same time and you didn't notice. or B:They were using damage mods If you were an armor scout I'd say they just hit you directly but as a Proto Minja a freedom wouldn't one shot you without the conditions above. Im going with dam mods, since they were BOTH Gal Logis Proto (lol you dont say) Probably prof 5 plus 2 Cx dam mods were at hand. Stil li couldnt feel the ''shield penalty'' on them at all... : / If it was option #1 then they were very synchronized,since it happened 5 times in a ROW . LOL XD Support SCOUTS : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=124408&find=unread
Ivy Zalinto Bobbit's Hangmen 67	Posted - 2013.12.03 05:15:00 - [25] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Yeah Patrick has it right, I dont think the other weapons are really in question, just the AR and Scrambler Rifle are in question. Well yesterday i went vs 2 Guys with Freedom Mass drivers and i had to take out my Proto Cal Logi because my scout would get 1HKO'd by them (350EHP) and i couldnt kill them with 2 CRG-3 Shots... : / I tried until i died 5 times in a row. And my scout is a Minny scout with more SHIELDS than armor. I guess with a decrease of 20% To TTK to SCR and AR's Next to a slight 25% HP buff for scouts could help... :/ Hp buff for scouts huh? On the MD bit either: A: They were hitting you at the same time and you didn't notice. or B:They were using damage mods If you were an armor scout I'd say they just hit you directly but as a Proto Minja a freedom wouldn't one shot you without the conditions above. Im going with dam mods, since they were BOTH Gal Logis Proto (lol you dont say) Probably prof 5 plus 2 Cx dam mods were at hand. Stil li couldnt feel the ''shield penalty'' on them at all... : / If it was option #1 then they were very synchronized,since it happened 5 times in a ROW . LOL XD Md's are the bane of my existence. They 2 shot me with exo's and the freedom will in fact one shot me. This is splash as well, not dirrects. 80 shields isnt enough to negate the explosive damage and the rest gets sent into armor. Dedicated scout. Caldari loyalist. Pistol supremacy.

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