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Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
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Posted - 2013.12.03 01:55:00 -
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I was hoping for pure, true fighter aircraft. A thread from a bit ago involving some CPM tags (I think CPM) gave me the feeling fighters would be glorified dropships (my greatest fear), so now I day dream about bomber aircraft.
The APC would be amazing too, in the hands of a good squad. Heavy transport containing 6 proto clones, most likely following a tank column, dismounting to fight. It'd be epic.
CCP may have screwed up waiting for the other vehicles. Seems a bit like only introducing the Heavy and Scout suit, then trying to balance them against everything in game as well as things to come. |
Leither Yiltron
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.12.03 01:56:00 -
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Arc-08 wrote:This message is brought to you with a deep concern in my heart. In a war tanks are the ultimate armored vehicle. You will never see in an actual war one guy with an infantry missile launcher blow up a tank all by himself.
NO, it takes at least a squad of people, sombody sets out mines to disable the treads on the tank so it can't run away, one or two people have rocket launchers to blow the tank up, and then theres probably an infantry guy with an AK or sniper in case sombody jumps out of the tank and starts shooting.
In real war one usually engages with more than 16 combat units at once. There are some deep balance and design questions related to vehicles but...
this isn't one them.
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KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
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Posted - 2013.12.03 01:57:00 -
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KenKaniff69 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:1-3 depending on the tank.
I know it only takes one to kill either of my tanks. Why don''t you GTFO with this omni soldier BS and just unlock some real tanks. Then you can stop talking out of your @ss and actually understand half of the things we say as vehicle users.
Most Vehicle users QQ a lot and lack respect for other players. They really dont deserve better. HTFU whiner...
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Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.12.03 02:07:00 -
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Well, they have to be able to destroy it before the driver gets out and recalls, which is what happens 90% of the time there's a threat to "pro" HAV drivers
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True Adamance
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.12.03 02:10:00 -
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Zero Harpuia wrote:True Adamance wrote:Dunk Mujunk wrote:I will say what is probably a big part of why many tanks now a days seem so untouchable (in RL) is tactics. Unless it's an all out tank vs tank battle out in the open (such as 73 Easting, the last such battle to my knowledge), you will always see heavy infantry support around tanks. To this day, a tank in a city environment, even with infantry support, does not generally have the advantage. The defender (being infantry) would theoretically have the advantage in that scenario.
I would like to see the power of tanks somewhat dictated by teamwork with infantry, but thats a lot to ask. I really don't know where the balance for Dust truely lies. Ever since the swarm buff i barely touch AV, cause almost everyone is better at it than me (absolutely 0 SP into AV. Well, I do have AV nades, but I don't run them), and the extent of my vehicle knowledge is my BPO Saga used for disposable transportation. I do think vehicles should have counter measures.
One more thing I usually forget on this topic until way later. I could honestly buy into an overall boost to how powerful tanks are when I think about the fact they still need to introduce the mech things, the apc things, and the other aircraft, one of which I would imagine would have to be a bomber.
If someone can solo a tank right now, who the **** would want to use a mech, which would have to have less shields and armor. And if we can solo a tank now with what we have, whats the point in wasting SP on something like a bomber?
Tricky stuff man. Indeed I mean I would use a mech but that is for stylistic flair rather than combat effectiveness. There's a reason mechs don't tend to exist in real life, and that's because of how non-effective they are in combat. Too easy to damage a leg and render the whole thing a sitting duck :c
No knowing what the future holds, I wouldn't put down mechs that quickly. I have no doubt they have their merits in CQC where conventional vehicles cannot access, with more firepower than the standard squad support weapon can dish out.
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