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Infamous Erich
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:15:00 -
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Infamous Erich
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:18:00 -
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@ Damios82 Agreed but,
This thread isn't only built to talk and vent about heavies holding light weaponry, its also showing how many people think something need to be done to that beautiful HMG that used to scare the hell outa me back in the day then heavies won't be shooting me from 70m 
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:22:00 -
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Amusingly, it was the first thing I ever did when I started playing back in May '12, and now, so much later, I'm right back where I started.
I have equal amounts of SP in both ARs and HMGs. AR just wins out in most situations, it's more versatile, powerful, and friendly to solo play. Plus, with the AR, I have BPOs. Not so with HMGs
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Infamous Erich
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:28:00 -
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@ DustFiend yeah it makes more than sense to use a AR over a HMG unless you play like me and use hard weapons since i feel more accomplished like when you get a nova knife or RE kill. I just want CCP to see all these people who really enjoy the HMG but they can't even use it since everything else is "Better"
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Shadow Archeus
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:30:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Terra Thesis wrote:90% of the time it's dumb, but sometimes you already know where the reds are, you don't have to waddle anywhere to reach them, you know you're not going to live long, and you just need a big gun and a lot of ehp. wrong 1..i always know where the reds are because my logi carries scanners because he's smart.. 2 i dont waddle i run because i prefer a complex cardiac regulator to take up one of my low spots
I just run repairs on my suit.....enough to rep me quickly after I ambush people.....but if I have logi support he runs reps scanner and hives....and I just tank out my suit |
StoneSmasher Drugga
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:30:00 -
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Korvin Lomont wrote:Honestly I believe that every suit should get a H weapon slot, just give heavies a great bonus to wielding heavy weapons or a penalty to the other suits when they wield a heavy weapon...as this is currently the only slot that has some sort of effective suit restriction. (I know grenade slot are suit restrictive as well but currently every suit can fi every grenade in game so this does not matter).
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ELITE INQUISITOR
Eternal Beings
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:34:00 -
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First off let me say I am a dedicated logo. I have friends that are heavy. The problems heavys have is ar/ and scr can destroy a heavy before they get in range to use an hmg. Not only that but the ar dominates at close range more than an hmg. Till they fix the hmg expect to see the heavys with ars and scr.
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Infamous Erich
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:34:00 -
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Korvin Lomont wrote:Honestly I believe that every suit should get a H weapon slot, just give heavies a great bonus to wielding heavy weapons or a penalty to the other suits when they wield a heavy weapon...as this is currently the only slot that has some sort of effective suit restriction. (I know grenade slot are suit restrictive as well but currently every suit can fi every grenade in game so this does not matter).
A Scout Jumping around a corner with a HMG or forge gun....Hell NO
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General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:37:00 -
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Infamous Erich wrote:Just curious on what everyone thinks about running into a heavy holding a duvolle or a SCR cause i think its just dumb.
From a tactical perception, it's pretty stupid. People can strafe the fudge outta you and you have a huge head that I can easily SMG-headshot while strafing. I can't be that mad though...Heavies are stuck with Forge Guns and HMGs but nothing that can match the versatility of the Rifles. Ultimately, being stuck with weapons that aren't that versatile hinder Heavies the most. Light Suits and Medium Suits have Shotguns, ARs, SRs, CRs, RRs, Sniper Rifles, Mass Drivers, and more that work with their designs.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:37:00 -
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They need to make more weapons for the heavy's even more so now with the other races getting their race based suits in the near future . Really ??? All races with a heavy class and just two weapons ???? People are talking like there is a choice . Most of you know this and much more and you still make threads like this one but some are saying that something needs to be done and the first thing is , don't condemn them because of this and support their cause in getting more balance being brought to their class .
I believe that most here use a heavy suit in one form or another and this thread and some of the comments here make those who are doing so hypocrites , knowing what that class is about and has to go threw .
Help to create a new weapon or weapons for that class and not some lamebrain ideal . Something that can actually be used so we can help get this ball rolling if there IS such a problem with this . Help to create a solution instead of creating or becoming part of the problem and the fact that , that class ONLY has two weapons is a problem .
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The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:43:00 -
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Horizen Kenpachi wrote:Hahaha hmg vs srambler hmmmmmm heavy magic goats vs fesible weapon il use the goat cannon as i love dieing. Use a a gun that works and can hold of protos never how stupid im leaving my hot girlfriend for a munter make sense not in bannans and sweetcorn
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:45:00 -
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Infamous Erich wrote:@ DustFiend yeah it makes more than sense to use a AR over a HMG unless you play like me and use hard weapons since i feel more accomplished like when you get a nova knife or RE kill. I just want CCP to see all these people who really enjoy the HMG but they can't even use it since everything else is "Better"
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Infamous Erich
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:46:00 -
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Heavy Laser we need it RIGHT MEOW CCP so we can atleast have something that works while you fix the HMG 
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:47:00 -
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CCP can you create a Heavy Shotgun , Heavy Grenade Launcher made like a Mass Driver , Heavy Scrambler Rifle and a Heavy Rail Rifle .
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Infamous Erich
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:48:00 -
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AND here comes the wave of GTFO with this dream of awsome weapons lol
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Slag Emberforge
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:49:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:People are still whining about it? GET OVER IT
Light weapon slots can support sidearm slots, therefore it makes sense for that heavy weapon slots should be able to hold light weapon slots. "Bigger" slots can take in smaller weapons.
The heavy suit itself is balanced by low sprint, low strafe, low stamina, no equipment slots, low scanning abilities, huge signature profile, and huge hitbox to counter the HP they have over medium frames; therefore, I don't see why they should only be limited to heavy weapons. You guys seriously want to limit heavy suits to 2 weapons?!
It's because they are bad, they want to run up to a have face to face conflict and win. They can get the **** over it. Heavy weapons should be good enought that you would not want to "downgrade" from heavy to light, but as it sits FG is good and HMG is niche we will use whatever allows us to survive in the interim.
It means every one of my shots needs to hit to stand a chance, though assaults/logis/scouts are dancing around, yet I am assured they have aiming easy as I am a slow moving massive target. We can't dodge, we have to use strategy and tactics to actually put that eHP to good use.
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DAMIOS82
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:50:00 -
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At Infamous Erich
Well actually imo, the way it is now with the hmg at long distances is fine. If i fire at someone across the map, i know all i'm doing is taunting them and you know what that's fine, it makes me laugh and it wouldn't make sence for it to be able to fire 70m. But upclose one should fear it, perhaps not like in beta, but it should make you think twice about engaging them 1 on 1. Not like it is now, where i actually fear the assault and its nice that people understand the problem, but making threads about us fatty's and saying well that's not fair, well what did you expect, with all the QQ we where pushed into one corner, so all we can do is try and push a bit back.
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Jadd Hatchen
Psygod9
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:50:00 -
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Infamous Erich wrote:Just curious on what everyone thinks about running into a heavy holding a duvolle or a SCR cause i think its just dumb.
Watch this video:
http://dust514.com/media/videos/fight-your-own-war/
Game working as intended. If people wanna run around using SMG's while in a Commando suit I don't care. I'll shoot at them just the same.
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AP Grasshopper
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:59:00 -
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until the HMG becomes on par with or stronger then assault rifles heavies will continue to use assault rifles, get over it. |
Infamous Erich
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Posted - 2013.12.02 17:01:00 -
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@Jadd
Yes watched that video and all i was thinking is, people wanna fight the way they want to right? well what if that's using a HMG cause it isn't the way it should be, it shoots like a damn laser!... bottem line is people shouldn't "have to" use light weapons with a heavy to do well the HMG should be all that and more.
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Ghosts Chance
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Posted - 2013.12.02 17:01:00 -
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i think its more a commentary on how bad the commando suit is more then anything else.
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Mortedeamor
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
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Posted - 2013.12.02 17:04:00 -
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Shadow Archeus wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Terra Thesis wrote:90% of the time it's dumb, but sometimes you already know where the reds are, you don't have to waddle anywhere to reach them, you know you're not going to live long, and you just need a big gun and a lot of ehp. wrong 1..i always know where the reds are because my logi carries scanners because he's smart.. 2 i dont waddle i run because i prefer a complex cardiac regulator to take up one of my low spots I just run repairs on my suit.....enough to rep me quickly after I ambush people.....but if I have logi support he runs reps scanner and hives....and I just tank out my suit
personally i prefer armor plates 1 cardiac reg and 2 x dmg mods |
Infamous Erich
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Posted - 2013.12.02 17:05:00 -
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@ AP
People like you have no good imput you should just remain in the shadows, its not about "getting over it" its about the hmg needs a buff im not even a heavy user and i can tell something needs to be done. It doesn't matter if you play in a basic heavy or proto heavy i will kill you the same speed unless you are a boss and stack amour plates and survive my RE.
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chase rowland
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Posted - 2013.12.02 17:06:00 -
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Rogue Saint wrote:Been discussed, too many heavies QQ'd and said it was because they couldn't win with HMG/FG.
Personally, and as I said before, if anyone needs that much EHP to be competitive they must suck hard.
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Posted - 2013.12.02 17:08:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:I agree with no pre-defined roles for suits. People should experiment and come up with interesting new fits.
That said, why would anybody want to run a slow suit with horrible passive scan and no equipment slot just to get a bit more defensive buffer?
I disagree, Pre-defined roles is a good thing, but should have more variety with that role so there will be no need for tier switching.
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Infamous Erich
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Posted - 2013.12.02 17:12:00 -
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@ heavyenly
I agree as i think this is why heavies are in this position if they had abit more of a diverse play style then people wouldn't QQ about the HMG since it wouldn't be their only weapon.
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Posted - 2013.12.02 17:15:00 -
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I know people don't like that I kill them with an Exile or Duvolle while I'm waddling around in my heavy, but I'm here to drop a little knowledge on you. CCP wanted this.
::gasp::
It's true. Just look at the Commando. It is our other option as a Heavy, and it is CCP telling us, use light weapons, here is a suit dedicated to light weapons.
So, we train light weapons. Then people are all like...wraaaar dem fady got ryflz yo OP!
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Infamous Erich
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Posted - 2013.12.02 17:18:00 -
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@ DustFiend
I never thought about that, heavies do have a choice to go commando.. or maybe it was just this voice inside my head telling me commando suits are complete garbage atleast imo.
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God Hates Lags
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Posted - 2013.12.02 17:23:00 -
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I didn't think it was possible for so many bad ideas to fit into one normal sized thread.
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ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.12.02 17:25:00 -
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Simply a testament to how un-balanced the weapons are in this game, AR stands head and shoulders above the rest (minus the ScR apparently) ... we have access to a freakin MINIGUN but we choose to either use the AR or reroll a new suit entirely. This was not so apparent before the latest hit detection fixes, but now that bullets actually land, auto aim is OP, AR514 is back stronger than ever..
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