DUST Search - Where are the active dampeners?

Vulpes Dolosus wrote:

DeadlyAztec11 wrote:

Son-Of A-Gun wrote:

Sgt Kirk wrote:

Vulpes Dolosus wrote:

Here's an idea, HTFU and level dampening.

somethings up this guy's ass.

Anh, I probably told him to HTFU one time when he was QQing. I do that a lot ya know. Or maybe he agreed with someone I told to HTFU. Who knows?

HTFU is a foolish term anyhow. It is the equivalent to telling a child not to be sad. What does it do? Nothing. Not a thing.

The HTFU was for the request for a redundant, easy-mode counter to the active scanner.

Redundant because you have all you need to counter active scanners with the passive dampening mods. If scanners are really a problem for you, level scanning and equip a complex dampener, you only need one on a med suit to counter 99% of the scanners in pubs.

He's asking for an easy way to counter scans, and since active mods are typically better than passive, it means he doesn't want to put sp and a low slot into dampener. Typical scanner QQ.

Had he came up with actual ideas, examples, data, etc. to support an argument, then we can work with that. But this "I'm lazy, scanners hurt my feelings," spam of a post is just whining.

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Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 441	Posted - 2013.12.01 00:27:00 - [1] - Quote Post your ideas here, because I'm to lazy to write about my own, but want to hear active dampener discussion all the same. Or don't, whatever. {:)}{3GÇó>
Vulpes Dolosus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 344	Posted - 2013.12.01 00:28:00 - [2] - Quote Here's an idea, HTFU and level dampening. Dropship Specialist: AKA Clinically Insane Kills- Incubus: 3; Pythons: 0; Logistics: 0; Militia: 19; Tanks: 3
Mdog 24158 Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 39	Posted - 2013.12.01 00:33:00 - [3] - Quote No there needs to be active cloak for scouts Flying derpships and scout shotgunning 24/7 quite fun i must say
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 442	Posted - 2013.12.01 00:33:00 - [4] - Quote How does HTFU apply here? When did I start to QQ? {:)}{3GÇó>
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 442	Posted - 2013.12.01 00:34:00 - [5] - Quote Mdog 24158 wrote: No there needs to be active cloak for scouts How does a visual cloak stop one from making sound? {:)}{3GÇó>
DeadlyAztec11 2413	Posted - 2013.12.01 00:39:00 - [6] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: How does HTFU apply here? When did I start to QQ? Don't mind'em, they're just uppity. I also feel that there should be active modules, particularly hardeners and dampeners. Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 442	Posted - 2013.12.01 00:41:00 - [7] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: How does HTFU apply here? When did I start to QQ? Don't mind'em, they're just uppity. I also feel that there should be active modules, particularly hardeners and dampeners. I was thinking more like an equipment. A hard counter to the current active scanner. {:)}{3GÇó>
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3123	Posted - 2013.12.01 00:48:00 - [8] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Here's an idea, HTFU and level dampening. somethings up this guy's ass.
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 443	Posted - 2013.12.01 00:53:00 - [9] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Here's an idea, HTFU and level dampening. somethings up this guy's ass. Anh, I probably told him to HTFU one time when he was QQing. I do that a lot ya know. Or maybe he agreed with someone I told to HTFU. Who knows? {:)}{3GÇó>
DeadlyAztec11 2413	Posted - 2013.12.01 00:56:00 - [10] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Here's an idea, HTFU and level dampening. somethings up this guy's ass. Anh, I probably told him to HTFU one time when he was QQing. I do that a lot ya know. Or maybe he agreed with someone I told to HTFU. Who knows? HTFU is a foolish term anyhow. It is the equivalent to telling a child not to be sad. What does it do? Nothing. Not a thing. Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.

Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 443	Posted - 2013.12.01 00:58:00 - [11] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Here's an idea, HTFU and level dampening. somethings up this guy's ass. Anh, I probably told him to HTFU one time when he was QQing. I do that a lot ya know. Or maybe he agreed with someone I told to HTFU. Who knows? HTFU is a foolish term anyhow. It is the equivalent to telling a child not to be sad. What does it do? Nothing. Not a thing. Yah but some people deserve it. I try to use it in appropriate situations. {:)}{3GÇó>
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2588	Posted - 2013.12.01 01:01:00 - [12] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Here's an idea, HTFU and level dampening. Here is an idea: Stop being a scrub telling people to HTFU while knowing Nothing. Whats the point of leveling dampening if there will ALWAYS be a scanner that can pick you up. At the mere cost of some SP change... how can there be people still saying stuff like that? cant you see scanners are broken!? They completley F* over scouts and have so many You Have been Scanned messages that they might as well remove it because i knoweverybody can see me all the time.... People be stupid 'round here srsly.... The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....**
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3123	Posted - 2013.12.01 01:02:00 - [13] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: HTFU is a foolish term anyhow. It is the equivalent to telling a child not to be sad. What does it do? Nothing. Not a thing. No it's not, It's the proper response to someone wanting this game to be easier and simpler for them. Example: XxNewberry Carebare21xX wrote: I don't like that this game encourages backstabbing and espionage Response: The awesome Sgt Kirk wrote: XxNewberry Carebare21xX wrote: I don't like that this game encourages backstabbing and espionage HTFU
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 1432	Posted - 2013.12.01 01:04:00 - [14] - Quote I would like something like Deployable Interference Not something to dampen your signal, but something that would throw out misleading information over a certain area. A 40m bubble that would show enemies that aren't actually there, creating confusion and a diversion. Cheeseburgers.
Vulpes Dolosus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 344	Posted - 2013.12.01 01:06:00 - [15] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Here's an idea, HTFU and level dampening. somethings up this guy's ass. Anh, I probably told him to HTFU one time when he was QQing. I do that a lot ya know. Or maybe he agreed with someone I told to HTFU. Who knows? HTFU is a foolish term anyhow. It is the equivalent to telling a child not to be sad. What does it do? Nothing. Not a thing. The HTFU was for the request for a redundant, easy-mode counter to the active scanner. Redundant because you have all you need to counter active scanners with the passive dampening mods. If scanners are really a problem for you, level scanning and equip a complex dampener, you only need one on a med suit to counter 99% of the scanners in pubs. He's asking for an easy way to counter scans, and since active mods are typically better than passive, it means he doesn't want to put sp and a low slot into dampener. Typical scanner QQ. Had he came up with actual ideas, examples, data, etc. to support an argument, then we can work with that. But this "I'm lazy, scanners hurt my feelings," spam of a post is just whining. Dropship Specialist: AKA Clinically Insane Kills- Incubus: 3; Pythons: 0; Logistics: 0; Militia: 19; Tanks: 3
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2588	Posted - 2013.12.01 01:12:00 - [16] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Here's an idea, HTFU and level dampening. somethings up this guy's ass. Anh, I probably told him to HTFU one time when he was QQing. I do that a lot ya know. Or maybe he agreed with someone I told to HTFU. Who knows? HTFU is a foolish term anyhow. It is the equivalent to telling a child not to be sad. What does it do? Nothing. Not a thing. The HTFU was for the request for a redundant, easy-mode counter to the active scanner. Redundant because you have all you need to counter active scanners with the passive dampening mods. If scanners are really a problem for you, level scanning and equip a complex dampener, you only need one on a med suit to counter 99% of the scanners in pubs. . LOL you being in a clan that has so many (mind you : SO MANY) proto stompers , you should know that Proto Scanners are actually pretty common in Pub Matches. so with one CX Prof Dampening you are avoiding a lot less than 99% of the scanners.Plus you are already sacrificing a very important LOW slot , while the other player is probably a Logi and its sacrificing so little that its laughable. And if they are using an ADV Scanner and get an ERROR message, tehy will go to the Supply depo,and change into Proto Scanner. AGAIN MARGIN OF ERROR!? take out Focused, and we are all in the Reds Maps.... WITHOUT COUNTER... The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 444	Posted - 2013.12.01 01:14:00 - [17] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Here's an idea, HTFU and level dampening. somethings up this guy's ass. Anh, I probably told him to HTFU one time when he was QQing. I do that a lot ya know. Or maybe he agreed with someone I told to HTFU. Who knows? HTFU is a foolish term anyhow. It is the equivalent to telling a child not to be sad. What does it do? Nothing. Not a thing. The HTFU was for the request for a redundant, easy-mode counter to the active scanner. Redundant because you have all you need to counter active scanners with the passive dampening mods. If scanners are really a problem for you, level scanning and equip a complex dampener, you only need one on a med suit to counter 99% of the scanners in pubs. He's asking for an easy way to counter scans, and since active mods are typically better than passive, it means he doesn't want to put sp and a low slot into dampener. Typical scanner QQ. Had he came up with actual ideas, examples, data, etc. to support an argument, then we can work with that. But this "I'm lazy, scanners hurt my feelings," spam of a post is just whining. And you sir are a fool, if you think that sacrificing 3 or 4 low slots to counter an active scanner that takes up one equipment slot is fair and balanced. Honestly I don't see what your problem is. You're the one exploring EZ-modes here buba. facepalm HTFU pufft {:)}{3GÇó>
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 446	Posted - 2013.12.01 01:22:00 - [18] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: I would like something like Deployable Interference Not something to dampen your signal, but something that would throw out misleading information over a certain area. A 40m bubble that would show enemies that aren't actually there, creating confusion and a diversion. I am torn between something like this and somthing that mimics the current functionality of the AS. If we went this route I think it would be prudent to be able to carry multiple deployable units per equipment slot, like nano hives. {:)}{3GÇó>
Vulpes Dolosus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 344	Posted - 2013.12.01 02:15:00 - [19] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: And you sir are a fool, if you think that sacrificing 3 or 4 low slots to counter an active scanner that takes up one equipment slot is fair and balanced. Honestly I don't see what your problem is. You're the one exploiting EZ-mode here buba. facepalm HTFU pufft It only takes two enhanced dampeners at lvl5 dampening to block all proto scans bar the focused. Math: 50[scan profile]-(50.1)[skill bonus]-(50.2)[first dampener]-(50(.2.87))[second, with penalty]=26.3 If you really want to complain about the focused, just remember they're bring a 40k proto equipment that takes a fourth to a fifth of their PG/CPU well, and it only lasts for 5secs. Dropship Specialist: AKA Clinically Insane Kills- Incubus: 3; Pythons: 0; Logistics: 0; Militia: 19; Tanks: 3
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 103	Posted - 2013.12.01 02:21:00 - [20] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: I would like something like Deployable Interference Not something to dampen your signal, but something that would throw out misleading information over a certain area. A 40m bubble that would show enemies that aren't actually there, creating confusion and a diversion. Message from Godin: Ignoring the HTFU BS going on here, I would say this, and another device called the Jammer. place it down, and every so often, it'll pulse, messing with people's scanning abilities, as well as other kinds of EWAR. Lastly, give modules along side this Jammer to reduce the effect of said Jammer. Done.

KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2594	Posted - 2013.12.01 02:21:00 - [21] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: And you sir are a fool, if you think that sacrificing 3 or 4 low slots to counter an active scanner that takes up one equipment slot is fair and balanced. Honestly I don't see what your problem is. You're the one exploiting EZ-mode here buba. facepalm HTFU pufft It only takes two enhanced dampeners at lvl5 dampening to block all proto scans bar the focused. Math: 50[scan profile]-(50.1)[skill bonus]-(50.2)[first dampener]-(50(.2.87))[second, with penalty]=26.3 If you really want to complain about the focused, just remember they're bring a 40k proto equipment that takes a fourth to a fifth of their PG/CPU well, and it only lasts for 5secs. ''It only takes two enhanced dampeners '' Mind you. You are saying it only takes 2 LOW SLOTS to avoid something that takes only 1 slot without effecting your dropsuit's Preformance/Tanking. And you can still put in 2 Dampeners while sacrificing HP/Preformance and still get the unsavory surpise:''YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED'' it ''ONLY''... You are a funny man. The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 447	Posted - 2013.12.01 02:22:00 - [22] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: And you sir are a fool, if you think that sacrificing 3 or 4 low slots to counter an active scanner that takes up one equipment slot is fair and balanced. Honestly I don't see what your problem is. You're the one exploiting EZ-mode here buba. facepalm HTFU pufft It only takes two enhanced dampeners at lvl5 dampening to block all proto scans bar the focused. Math: 50[scan profile]-(50.1)[skill bonus]-(50.2)[first dampener]-(50(.2.87))[second, with penalty]=26.3 If you really want to complain about the focused, just remember they're bring a 40k proto equipment that takes a fourth to a fifth of their PG/CPU well, and it only lasts for 5secs. Only 28 dB is not the lowest a proto scanner can go. Try 15 dB, which cannot even be surpassed with dampening mods on a med frame. {:)}{3GÇó>
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 104	Posted - 2013.12.01 03:07:00 - [23] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: And you sir are a fool, if you think that sacrificing 3 or 4 low slots to counter an active scanner that takes up one equipment slot is fair and balanced. Honestly I don't see what your problem is. You're the one exploiting EZ-mode here buba. facepalm HTFU pufft It only takes two enhanced dampeners at lvl5 dampening to block all proto scans bar the focused. Math: 50[scan profile]-(50.1)[skill bonus]-(50.2)[first dampener]-(50(.2.87))[second, with penalty]=26.3 If you really want to complain about the focused, just remember they're bring a 40k proto equipment that takes a fourth to a fifth of their PG/CPU well, and it only lasts for 5secs. Only 28 dB is not the lowest a proto scanner can go. Try 15 dB, which cannot even be surpassed with dampening mods on a med frame. Well, it shouldn't........


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