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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2013.11.29 07:03:00 -
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Assuming you use all 4 low slots on a Proto Sentinel, that you take into account the penalties, as well as the bonuses from the biotic skill and kinetic skill...
7.1892 m/s
For reference:
A Gallante Scout runs at 7.6 m/s
A Minmatar Scout runs at 7.9 m/s
And a Caldari/Gallante Assault run at 7 m/s
And Amarr Assault run at 6.7 m/s
Heavies can be quick as the wind when they want to.
Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
5575
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Posted - 2013.11.29 07:07:00 -
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Sure, if you have **** for HP, no regen, and screw up your fittings a load so you can't use other good things.
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2013.11.29 07:13:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Sure, if you have **** for HP, no regen, and screw up your fittings a load so you can't use other good things.
This thread is in response to this thread of the Heavy Michael Jordan.
Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
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Thurak1
Psygod9
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
397
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Posted - 2013.11.29 07:13:00 -
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They CAN. But this sacrifices a lot from the suit and the best part it only affects sprinting speed.
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Thurak1
Psygod9
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
397
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Posted - 2013.11.29 07:15:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Sure, if you have **** for HP, no regen, and screw up your fittings a load so you can't use other good things. This thread is in response to this thread of the Heavy Michael Jordan.
Why make a whole new thread to respond to another thread? |
DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2013.11.29 07:18:00 -
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Thurak1 wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Sure, if you have **** for HP, no regen, and screw up your fittings a load so you can't use other good things. This thread is in response to this thread of the Heavy Michael Jordan. Why make a whole new thread to respond to another thread?
Because this info is important for any type of future reference.
I was merely provoked into finding out the extremes due to an unfortunate encounter... With a sumo.
Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
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nor asha
Turbo Bros inc.
14
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Posted - 2013.11.29 07:21:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Sure, if you have **** for HP, no regen, and screw up your fittings a load so you can't use other good things.
You'll have ****** HP even if you put on plates better to put two speed mods and 2 complex armor reps
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
209
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Posted - 2013.11.29 07:23:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Thurak1 wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Sure, if you have **** for HP, no regen, and screw up your fittings a load so you can't use other good things. This thread is in response to this thread of the Heavy Michael Jordan. Why make a whole new thread to respond to another thread? Because this info is important for any type of future reference. I was merely provoked into finding out the extremes due to an unfortunate encounter... With a sumo.
Rather meet a Sumo than a Minja. I can kill the Sumo. Killer Bees are even worse.
Names of playstyles
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Eurydice Itzhak
State Patriots
243
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Posted - 2013.11.29 07:24:00 -
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nor asha wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Sure, if you have **** for HP, no regen, and screw up your fittings a load so you can't use other good things. You'll have ****** HP even if you put on plates better to put two speed mods and 2 complex armor reps
1200 HP isn't really BAD, its just not regular heavy HP.
Heavies do have 600/600 base right? (with skills) |
Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals
Top Men.
662
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Posted - 2013.11.29 07:38:00 -
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lol sure a heavy can run fast if they stack up on kinetics, but 1vs1 speed heavy vs armor heavy, armor heavy will win in the end.
and the way the game is right now, adding kinetics just makes you die even faster without those armor plates. AR's will still get you in the end.
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nor asha
Turbo Bros inc.
14
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Posted - 2013.11.29 07:51:00 -
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Eurydice Itzhak wrote:nor asha wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Sure, if you have **** for HP, no regen, and screw up your fittings a load so you can't use other good things. You'll have ****** HP even if you put on plates better to put two speed mods and 2 complex armor reps 1200 HP isn't really BAD, its just not regular heavy HP. Heavies do have 600/600 base right? (with skills)
Right, plus the plates can slow you down.
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Leovarian L Lavitz
NECROM0NGERS
Covert Intervention
819
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Posted - 2013.11.29 07:52:00 -
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Chibi Andy wrote:lol sure a heavy can run fast if they stack up on kinetics, but 1vs1 speed heavy vs armor heavy, armor heavy will win in the end.
and the way the game is right now, adding kinetics just makes you die even faster without those armor plates. AR's will still get you in the end.
Ishukone nova knives beg to differ
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Few are my equal in one of these specialties, and there are none who can compare in all of them.
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Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals
Top Men.
662
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Posted - 2013.11.29 08:34:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Chibi Andy wrote:lol sure a heavy can run fast if they stack up on kinetics, but 1vs1 speed heavy vs armor heavy, armor heavy will win in the end.
and the way the game is right now, adding kinetics just makes you die even faster without those armor plates. AR's will still get you in the end. Ishukone nova knives beg to differ
still have to find a heavy that equips that on the battlefield. though i have encountered the speed heavy in PC battles, my armor heavy wins against them 1vs1.
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nor asha
Turbo Bros inc.
20
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Posted - 2013.11.29 21:38:00 -
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I wonder how fast the Minmatar Heavy will be able to run, I hope it gets a bonus to sprint speed per level but with a normal slow Heavysuit Strafe speed. That would be terrifying. |
Djinn b4lock
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2013.11.29 21:43:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Assuming you use all 4 low slots on a Proto Sentinel, that you take into account the penalties, as well as the bonuses from the biotic skill and kinetic skill...
7.1892 m/s
For reference:
A Gallante Scout runs at 7.6 m/s
A Minmatar Scout runs at 7.9 m/s
And a Caldari/Gallante Assault run at 7 m/s
And Amarr Assault run at 6.7 m/s
Heavies can be quick as the wind when they want to.
Looks like I now know what role I'm going to be dedicating this fresh alt to pursue. 
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GET ATMESON
Dem Durrty Boyz
Renegade Alliance
177
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Posted - 2013.11.29 22:12:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Assuming you use all 4 low slots on a Proto Sentinel, that you take into account the penalties, as well as the bonuses from the biotic skill and kinetic skill...
7.1892 m/s
For reference:
A Gallante Scout runs at 7.6 m/s
A Minmatar Scout runs at 7.9 m/s
And a Caldari/Gallante Assault run at 7 m/s
And Amarr Assault run at 6.7 m/s
Heavies can be quick as the wind when they want to.
I would like to point out. That I do this and you cant sprint that long. You need a green battery and sprinting at 6.70 is well worth losing .30 so you can sprint another 5 seconds and recharge is faster.
Good thing Dust514 is free. I would have returned it along time ago.
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
393
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Posted - 2013.11.29 22:13:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Sure, if you have **** for HP, no regen, and screw up your fittings a load so you can't use other good things.
Get a logi with reppers and use shotgun or nova knives.
Assassination is my thing.
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Severance Pay
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
969
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Posted - 2013.11.29 22:21:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Assuming you use all 4 low slots on a Proto Sentinel, that you take into account the penalties, as well as the bonuses from the biotic skill and kinetic skill...
7.1892 m/s
For reference:
A Gallante Scout runs at 7.6 m/s
A Minmatar Scout runs at 7.9 m/s
And a Caldari/Gallante Assault run at 7 m/s
And Amarr Assault run at 6.7 m/s
Heavies can be quick as the wind when they want to.
This is their speed while carrying heavy, light, or side arm?
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Shall be my brother
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Severance Pay
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
969
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Posted - 2013.11.29 22:23:00 -
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Aldin Kan already plays this type of heavy. Should ask him would have saved you the time of experimenting. I also believe he deserves the original credit.
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2013.11.29 22:26:00 -
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Severance Pay wrote:Aldin Kan already plays this type of heavy. Should ask him would have saved you the time of experimenting. I also believe he deserves the original credit.
Just did some calculations, no experimenting required.
Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2013.11.29 22:27:00 -
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Severance Pay wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Assuming you use all 4 low slots on a Proto Sentinel, that you take into account the penalties, as well as the bonuses from the biotic skill and kinetic skill...
7.1892 m/s
For reference:
A Gallante Scout runs at 7.6 m/s
A Minmatar Scout runs at 7.9 m/s
And a Caldari/Gallante Assault run at 7 m/s
And Amarr Assault run at 6.7 m/s
Heavies can be quick as the wind when they want to. This is their speed while carrying heavy, light, or side arm?
I do not believe that carrying any weapon actually effects your speed. Rather, it appears slower because heavier weapons move more slowly while running.
Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
4120
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Posted - 2013.11.29 22:38:00 -
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You might be forgetting the 5% speed bonus from biotics.
It bumps up Gal Assault to 7.4 m/s, Gal Scout to 8.01 (or something like that) m/s.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2013.11.29 22:40:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:You might be forgetting the 5% speed bonus from biotics.
It bumps up Gal Assault to 7.4 m/s, Gal Scout to 8.01 (or something like that) m/s.
Took it into account, just not for default numbers I put for the non heavy suits.
Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
1417
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Posted - 2013.11.29 22:53:00 -
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Probably closer to 7.8 with a Light Weapon or Sidearm equipped.
1200 HP with a Proficiency 5 AR isn't exactly gimped.
And being in a Fatsuit will always keep a Logi on your 6:00 ( Unless he's a dumb Logi that won't help in the firefight when facing >3 reds.)
Cheeseburgers.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
5401
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Posted - 2013.11.29 23:42:00 -
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You do realize that a Gallente Scout gk.0 fitted with 4x Complex Kinetic Catalyzers can sprint at 11.11m/s, right?
CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
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Templar 514
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
55
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Posted - 2013.11.30 00:00:00 -
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I think what makes this very impressive is that a proto heavy loaded with complex kincats is hitting sprint speeds comparable to medium frame suits. With skills factored, it's still less, but it's also still 1200 EHP with ~7.2 m/s sprint speed.
Any bricktank medium frame suit will probably cap at ~900-1000 EHP (the latter is still quite a lot for a medframe, IMO), and be brought down to be of similar- or possibly even slower- sprint speed.
The fact that a gk0 GalScout loaded with kincats can hit a little over 11 m/s isn't really impressive in that light. Sure, it's Sonic the Hedgehog fast, but Scouts are expected to outmaneuver all the things. A heavy that does 7.2 m/s sprint is a very surprising thing to find, and also requires a new approach to fight- it's more difficult to outmaneuver an opponent who can sprint as fast as you can, and has 25-100% the EHP you do. |
Djinn b4lock
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.11.30 00:02:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:You do realize that a Gallente Scout gk.0 fitted with 4x Complex Kinetic Catalyzers can sprint at 11.11m/s, right?
I think the draw of this fit is both with the unexpected nature of a speedy heavy and a likely combination of myofibril stimulants in the upper slot, which a heavy naturally takes better advantage of compared to the scout's melee strength. However, if you are looking to take advantage of lightning bruiser it's better overall to defer to a minmatar assault or logi depending on your play preferences.
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DeadlyAztec11
2343
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Posted - 2013.11.30 00:06:00 -
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Djinn b4lock wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:You do realize that a Gallente Scout gk.0 fitted with 4x Complex Kinetic Catalyzers can sprint at 11.11m/s, right? I think the draw of this fit is both with the unexpected nature of a speedy heavy and a likely combination of myofibril stimulants in the upper slot, which a heavy naturally takes better advantage of compared to the scout's melee strength. However, if you are looking to take advantage of lightning bruiser it's better overall to defer to a minmatar assault or logi depending on your play preferences.
The Minmatar Assault?
LOL No
5 highs and 2 lows does not a brawler make.
I know because I lost 10 trying to make it work.
Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
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Djinn b4lock
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.11.30 00:08:00 -
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Templar 514 wrote:I think what makes this very impressive is that a proto heavy loaded with complex kincats is hitting sprint speeds comparable to medium frame suits. With skills factored, it's still less, but it's also still 1200 EHP with ~7.2 m/s sprint speed.
Any bricktank medium frame suit will probably cap at ~900-1000 EHP (the latter is still quite a lot for a medframe, IMO), and be brought down to be of similar- or possibly even slower- sprint speed.
The fact that a gk0 GalScout loaded with kincats can hit a little over 11 m/s isn't really impressive in that light. Sure, it's Sonic the Hedgehog fast, but Scouts are expected to outmaneuver all the things. A heavy that does 7.2 m/s sprint is a very surprising thing to find, and also requires a new approach to fight- it's more difficult to outmaneuver an opponent who can sprint as fast as you can, and has 25-100% the EHP you do.
Also a speedy heavy in this case can make much more out of a logistics repair combo that is able to cover a lot more ground.
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Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
595
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Posted - 2013.11.30 00:11:00 -
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you dont need reds on a heavy thats what lav's are for
what I dont understand is why heavy's never focus on their shield regen
I ran an Eon (it has lower base armor) so i focused on shield
I ran an enhanced shield regulator in my low
I ran a complex shield energizer in my high
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