+1 great point but the assault bonus for the gallente is pretty darn stupid for an armor user, a hp regen for them would make sense.

Just add a built in 5 rep rate on assault armor tankers, and 3 on logi armor tankers. Problem solved.
Also buff the rate of shield recharge and delay, and freaking give the Caldari Logistics at least 20 CPU back to at least the basic/advanced, and god us sticky remote explosives.

+1 great point but the assault bonus for the gallente is pretty darn stupid for an armor user, a hp regen for them would make sense.

isn't the assault bonus reducing CPU/PG of light weapons? than seems pretty useful...

To be honest the blanket class bonus system is pretty stupid in general. I'd rather just have a second racial. Like for Minmatar logi, an increase to deployable equipment carried and active or an efficacy bonus for GaLogi.

Assuming I could get that instant +5 on my caldari assault shield rep, I'd have to say what?... Are you a complete failure?

While running around in ADV suit with complex extenders in a large majority of the engagements I get back in cover before dying, and if there was an instant extra +5 rep on my main tank it would have made a huge difference.

Perhaps you just suck at playing?

Alot of people have talked on how they like the Logi class bonus, and how it should be on Assaults or Heavies or anything that isn't a Logi because it adds to combat survivability. Seeing as most Logis and anti-Logis are busy talking about Sidearms, I'll just take up the sword for this one.

Logis, at a full Ved out racial, get a whole 5 Armor HP regen per second. This is equivalent with a single Prototype level personal Armor Repair Unit. Now, you might initially think "Armor reps make you live longer! If I'm doing the shooting/being shot at, I'd really like to live longer!" You would be, somewhat, right. But let's continue looking at this logically. If you are in a firefight, after 4-5 seconds one or both parties are usually cold as a Mackinaw's hull. This is because the TTK is pretty darn low, and because bullets hurt. They hurt so much in fact that most do well in excess of 30 damage a shot. It would take six seconds to walk off a single weak bullet. I'm pretty sure those who self-identify as 'Slayers' tend to get shot far more than a single time by automatic weaponry. It would, if you are lucky, cycle enough to help you survive that quarter-bullet that your HP was juuuuuuuuuuuuust lower than, effectively extending your HP bar by a grand TEN Armor HP. Man, that's totally a worthwhile bonus!

So, I've said why this bonus is bad for Assault and Heavy, but why is it good for Logi? Logi has a Remote Repair Tool, and it can heal anyone except the Logi himself. As the bearer of Equipment, the Logi should usually be at the back and only get shot occasionally, usually when he uses that Repair Tool on a 'Slayer'. While these occasional scrapes hurt, they will eventually kill your Logistics support with cherry-taps if he has no on-board repair protocols. Even a Caldari Logistics doesn't want to wander around with only thirty of his 80-odd armor. Hence, the Logistics Armor Repair bonus. The Logi can get these scrapes healed efficiently by a 5 per second heal because he isn't on the front-lines. While an Assault would be sidelined for an unreal amount of time waiting for local reps to do their job, and a Heavy for potentially full minutes, a Logistics doesn't need to be in the fray and sucking down fire like a 'Slayer' does. He's hiding behind a rock waiting for his armor to come back, with the Assaults cycling out of battle and coming to him for repairs. Because he only takes one bullet every few seconds, the 5 HP repair can keep up with the demands of battle.

So now, ask yourself. Do you STILL want the Logistics Armor repair Bonus on your Assault suit? Especially as a class wide bonus, you Caldari-wearers. There are far better things to put in that slot for the combat class, leave the reps to the Logi so he won't bleed out trying to sustain you.

If logis are to keep their Bonus they need to have the SAME amount of slots than assaults.(And they STILL have an ADVANTAGE )

the problem is, most "slayers" are better off using the logi suits than the assault suits

Please explain your reasoning. I'm not stating what the Assaults should have, just that this bonus is very, very bad for them.

The Logi Keeps their bonuses but get a Slot reduction to be in PAR With Assaults.
They still ahve 5 armor rep / sec
They still have Massive CPU and PG,only ; its probably going to be used for better equipment.

Mk.0 (not in the same form as the Assault please) Say 4-4
Gk.0 3-4
AK.0 2-4
Ck.0 4.3

(i left 4 and 4 for the Minnie logi, making it the most versatile,being the one that has the most specific bonus too and the weaker....)

This is my opinion only of course, but not only the logi has a LOT more slots than the assaults (in the case of the Cal Logi, -1 Sidearm for +2 Equipment slot,+1 Low P Module Slot , +1 High P Module Slot AND armor rep or in the case of Amarr Logi +1 L but with armor repair inclided...)

Logis still maintain their advantage, only a little more balanced: That Slot that is being removed represents the 72-148 HP Difference Logis usually have over Assaults.Of course in the case a Logi JUST tanks they will still have more HP than an assault (since they can choose to avoid fitting a Cx Armor Rep Module) But the HP Difference will be balanced considering the Speed/Stamina/Shield Regen of the Assaults.

Again IMO.... (Well i have to make more Fittings for my A/1 Series Logi..be right back...)

I would've thought the bonus for assault would be some kind of increase to light weapon use. Like extra ammunition or reload speed. Something. A decrease in damage modifiers maybe? I dunno.

I would've thought the bonus for assault would be some kind of increase to light weapon use. Like extra ammunition or reload speed. Something. A decrease in damage modifiers maybe? I dunno.

OP you're missing the point that this 5hp/s bonus = one more armour plate that can afford to be fitted.

It's a bonus that really only benefits the traditional logis, best embodied by the current Gallente logi.

Alot of people have talked on how they like the Logi class bonus, and how it should be on Assaults or Heavies or anything that isn't a Logi because it adds to combat survivability. Seeing as most Logis and anti-Logis are busy talking about Sidearms, I'll just take up the sword for this one.

Logis, at a full Ved out racial, get a whole 5 Armor HP regen per second. This is equivalent with a single Prototype level personal Armor Repair Unit. Now, you might initially think "Armor reps make you live longer! If I'm doing the shooting/being shot at, I'd really like to live longer!" You would be, somewhat, right. But let's continue looking at this logically. If you are in a firefight, after 4-5 seconds one or both parties are usually cold as a Mackinaw's hull. This is because the TTK is pretty darn low, and because bullets hurt. They hurt so much in fact that most do well in excess of 30 damage a shot. It would take six seconds to walk off a single weak bullet. I'm pretty sure those who self-identify as 'Slayers' tend to get shot far more than a single time by automatic weaponry. It would, if you are lucky, cycle enough to help you survive that quarter-bullet that your HP was juuuuuuuuuuuuust lower than, effectively extending your HP bar by a grand TEN Armor HP. Man, that's totally a worthwhile bonus!

So, I've said why this bonus is bad for Assault and Heavy, but why is it good for Logi? Logi has a Remote Repair Tool, and it can heal anyone except the Logi himself. As the bearer of Equipment, the Logi should usually be at the back and only get shot occasionally, usually when he uses that Repair Tool on a 'Slayer'. While these occasional scrapes hurt, they will eventually kill your Logistics support with cherry-taps if he has no on-board repair protocols. Even a Caldari Logistics doesn't want to wander around with only thirty of his 80-odd armor. Hence, the Logistics Armor Repair bonus. The Logi can get these scrapes healed efficiently by a 5 per second heal because he isn't on the front-lines. While an Assault would be sidelined for an unreal amount of time waiting for local reps to do their job, and a Heavy for potentially full minutes, a Logistics doesn't need to be in the fray and sucking down fire like a 'Slayer' does. He's hiding behind a rock waiting for his armor to come back, with the Assaults cycling out of battle and coming to him for repairs. Because he only takes one bullet every few seconds, the 5 HP repair can keep up with the demands of battle.

So now, ask yourself. Do you STILL want the Logistics Armor repair Bonus on your Assault suit? Especially as a class wide bonus, you Caldari-wearers. There are far better things to put in that slot for the combat class, leave the reps to the Logi so he won't bleed out trying to sustain you.