No class should get innate rep.

The only suit set I see this as ok with is the minis, because it's so small it's really almost negligible.

But a free complex armor repper? While other suits have to fit one?

Yeah, no. Logis can fit a repper just like everybody else.

That alone would bring their potential HP lead down to reasonable levels, where I would shut up about it.

That bonus could be used to improve their primary use, equipment use. Bonus. To general equipment efficiency, fitting reduction, ect.

That's true, but I felt trying to say what would be better on Assaults would just complicate the issue and cause undue strife. I just wanted to clear up why this one isn't a good bonus.

If I had to state something though, there really shouldn't be classwide bonuses. Just two or three bonuses per suit derived from the suit's skills. A bonus that works well on a Caldari suit might work horribly on a Gallente suit, so they need to be tailored to the individual suits.

Firstly, all suits have 2 bonuses, as of typing. Some EVE ships have as many as 6. I'm sure the DEVs will give Logi's bonuses to equipment when they get that coding snafu fixed.

As for the rest of your post, you didn't even read what I posted did you?

I explained why the Armor Repper doesn't change your 'potential HP'

I explained why Logis are the only ones that benefit from having this bonus, and how that benefit translates over to the other classes.

Just curious, but are you aware how much SP it costs to get that 'free' proto repper? To get Proto Reppers in general, you need to V out a x3 skill. Not too bad. To get the 'free' Proto repper, you need to V out a x8 skill.thats abit more than 2.6 times the amount of SP for something so minor.

So yea, no. Logis can NOT fit a Complex Repper like everyone else doesn't. Logi spent so much SP to keep himself alive between scraps and keep you alive.

I understand the first part. its the blanket bonus every logi suit gets. Replace the current with a equipment based one.

And a few complex repper adds a TON of extra EHP.

It opens another low slot, which logis already have TONS of, for another 150 HP.

Let me show some fits to show you my reasoning.

gK.0 With no comp repper- https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkNsTEpFxMxPdDh1STNtRTd1R1pvMlRUbzJsRUFMeHc&usp=drive_web#gid=32

Even with 3 advanced equipment, the logi still has a hefty lead over the assault variant. 200 HP, roughly, so a logi can get 3 advance gear, with a 200 HP lead, the same DPS, with just a 20K increase in cost. Don't bring up "But its slower!" because we ALL know speed tanking has long since been sent to the graveyard, if it was worth a damn, then scouts should technically be winning EVERY gunfight.

Now, lets look at a fit WITH a complex armor repper. Linky.

Now, in this fit, it is the exact same as before, only the lows are changed to accommodate a complex armor repper. This is what I am hoping to be achieved. The only diference between this and a assault is 60 more HP, which is quite negligible, and a sidearm when it comes to straight up gun fight.

If you want more proof to this, just ask, and I'll make more fits that show how losing the passive rep will balance the assault and Logi in 1v1.

Please note, what I'm going for here is that, a logi suit in 1v1 with a assault should be a battle won by player skill, not the fact that a logi can eat more bullets,

Another quick caveat, Amarr Logistics has further active armor repair through its bonuses to Armor Repper output. Why would it be on him instead of the gallente Logi? GalLogi in DUST tend to have more armor dependence after all, and that still holds true for the Logi. Maybe they're just trying to stick to themes, with Amarr having the Heavy and therefore more HP while Gallente have reduced fitting costs? Nothing so silly.

Amarr have increased personal reppers because they are the grey area. They are half Assault half Logistics. They are expected to be in closer proximity to combat then their contemporaries like the GalLogi. They have the added self repair rate to make up for the greater armor loss incurred, but also to de-incentivize using Armor Plates and other Low Slot versatility modules. This makes them good for entering and maintaining themselves in combat zones, healing and scanning, while still maintaining their life with a full selection of arms and a decent self-repair rate, while making sure that the other Logis (like the Minmatar) have more hacking or (like the Gallente) have better equipment, while still having less in-combat survivability than Assaults, who can afford to use those low slots to buffer themselves with Plates. Especially if they have a Logi who can afford to stay right there with them.

Hence, Amarr logi bonus :D

It may allow 'one more plate' but that isn't the point I'm making. The point is that with the bonus the Logi doesn't need to equip a self repper, nor does anyone else because the Logi is their repper. I'm not trying to bog the thread down in useless speculation on 'Logi OP, Nerf X' just stating why the Logi has this bonus and why it makes far more sense than most care to admit.

Also, by 'traditional' I hope you mean ones that do Logi things. Like I stated in the OP, 5HP per second won't help you in a combat situation.

Like talking to a wall.