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True Adamance
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
4360
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Posted - 2013.11.26 23:22:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Karl Marx II wrote:You don't have the skill to not run proto every match ... I've seen you go negative in your full proto in a squad ... I'd hate to see how you did without it xD lol you think I give a **** what you've seen me do. Usually I only go negative against full squads of- 1) 0uter.Heaven 2) Ancient Exiles 3) Nyain San And yes, I have gone negative against them lately, but they're some of the best players in the game, what do you expect? Its not proto stomping I'd im in a squad with them like I was the other night...... tank scrub discounts all proto gear used.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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Canari Elphus
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
1058
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Posted - 2013.11.26 23:27:00 -
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In the event of an officer proto stomp
1 - Stop Tryharding 2 - Start Trolling
Go to team chat and start working together to troll the hell out of them and make them lose their officer weapons. This includes Forge Guns, REs and Snipers and baiting people around corners and into the line of fire.
KDR might go down but enjoyment will be going up.
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Sky Kage
Immortal Guides
120
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Posted - 2013.11.26 23:29:00 -
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JL3Eleven wrote:Welcome to New Eden. shut the **** up, i hate that saying.
I die alot AND have fun... Who knew?
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
2366
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Posted - 2013.11.26 23:31:00 -
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Sky Kage wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Welcome to New Eden. shut the **** up, i hate that saying. I love it, perfect responce to guys who can't take their beatings.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja.
Forum Warrior level 2
A grunt of STB
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Jacques Cayton II
Providence Guard Templis Dragonaors
123
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Posted - 2013.11.26 23:32:00 -
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I like turtles
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
1767
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Posted - 2013.11.27 03:18:00 -
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Karl Marx II wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Karl Marx II wrote:You don't have the skill to not run proto every match ... I've seen you go negative in your full proto in a squad ... I'd hate to see how you did without it xD lol you think I give a **** what you've seen me do. Usually I only go negative against full squads of- 1) 0uter.Heaven 2) Ancient Exiles 3) Nyain San And yes, I have gone negative against them lately, but they're some of the best players in the game, what do you expect? HINT :- This is an Alt You shouldn't ever go negative in full proto gear when in a proto squad just because your up against a proto squad ... if it was PC I could understand but pubgames ? That's embarrassing ... Yeah, I knew it was an alt
How exactly is it embarrassing? I'm not the best player in this game, far from it, and there is always someone better than me. Someone that I can't meet the skill of. How is it embarrassing to admit that I'm not the best player in this game? It is embarrassing to call someone out for not being the best of the best, it is embarrassing to hide behind an alt (Unless you were banned).
I admit that I'm not a very good player, but calling someone out because they went negative in a pub match? Absolutely pathetic.
When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE!
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Justice Prevails
121
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Posted - 2013.11.27 03:47:00 -
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Got rolled tonight in an ambush by 3 tanks. Know at least one of them was from Teamplayers. My dumb*** kept spawning deluded that I would get atleast one kill. They were all over us. Left the match.
Thats the decision you have to make. If your not having fun, leave the match. Screw them, don't add to their kdr. Sometimes, I leave the match when the stompers are on my team because I know it will be boring. Other than that one match, tonight really wasn't that bad.
Its just part of the game we play, and it will probably stay that way.
Edit: Joining a corp or squadding up does reduce the amount of times you're on the stomped side.
Great job, team. Head back to the MCC for debriefing and cocktails.
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knight of 6
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
694
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Posted - 2013.11.27 03:50:00 -
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take it to the war room!
"God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon
Ko6, scout, tanker.
CLOSED BETA VET
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Joel II X
AHPA
226
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Posted - 2013.11.27 04:08:00 -
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Train to Prof. 5 Plasma Cannon and actually be able to use it effectively. You'll be able to OH them to oblivion in the blink of an eye. That's what I do some times, but I not that good with it. I DO get lucky. |
Keri Starlight
0uter.Heaven Proficiency V.
1530
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Posted - 2013.11.27 05:03:00 -
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There's so much **** in this thread that I don't know where to start.
I'm not referring to the OP, I just have to say that I don't know Robbing The Hood very much, I have no idea of how they play, but I have to LOL @ Warriors. I don't know why some people actually complain about them, I saw them losing against NPC corps random berries multiple times! Seriously, they can't be a threat even with Officer weapons... they are probably the worst proto "stompers" of all times. No offence, Warriors
About corps using Officer weapons regularly, I can serenely say that, so far, the only time I saw someone in my corp running an officer weapon it was Radar sniping back some silly redline domination snipers. Many people in O.H don't even run proto in publics/FW, so I won't believe anything about O.H Offistomping unless you show the evidence.
To Karl Marx: leave Patrick alone! Why the hell are you attacking him in first place?
About Offistomping in general, meh... Anyone running an Officer weapon in a public game has a huge imaginary red chevron on his/her head, so I'm not sure what to say...
...if you want to lose your Officer weapons, just do it, I guess...
To the rest: relax, people. We're making a game look like real life. You shouldn't give it such a weight, don't let a bad match or an officer-d****e ruin your day. It doesn't worth it.
-1.7 ranges: AR 42m -> 48m, TAR 65m -> 60m
-Goodbye my love, Tac AR
"I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
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CharCharOdell
1696
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Posted - 2013.11.27 05:04:00 -
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Karl Marx II wrote:KingBabar wrote:Are those salty? You just summed up the type of losers who play this way .. whats wrong can;t get a girl to even look at you so have to revert to jerking off to people getting annoyed at how much of a scrub you are ?? Get a life, try going out and getting laid and maybe you wouldn't act like such a d1ck on a game
says the guy trying to be a forum warrior.^
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Kira Lannister
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
2001
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Posted - 2013.11.27 05:16:00 -
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Nothing wrong with trying hard!
"The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire."
Book of Exiles 1:3
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dustwaffle
Xer Cloud Consortium
686
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Posted - 2013.11.27 05:16:00 -
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Adapt or die |
Tch Tch
Red Shirts Away Team
0
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Posted - 2013.11.27 05:17:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:That's cool by me. You use what you have access to and you risk it as you use it..... HTFU
None of you have ever been through a Calamitous Intent Hot Drop....
You though using Officer Gear against pubbies was overkill.
The dropped a fleet of battleships on one Stealthbomber, and 3 Destroyers.
That's like using Tank to blow up an ant.
Not only that they later dropped a Capital, Battleship, and BC fleet on Two Battleships, one cruiser, and two Destroyers.....
That was like using a Nuke to get rid an ant
I thought PC would be the equivalent of Eves null sec where anything goes and it revolves around PvP.
I guess pub would be the high sec space. So to be valid did your example happen in 1.0, 0.9, 8?
Because if it didn't its interesting but not very accurate... Kind of my mass driver. All show no connection :)
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Slag Emberforge
Immortal Retribution
159
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Posted - 2013.11.27 06:07:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote: To the rest: relax, people. We're making a game look like real life. You shouldn't give it such a weight, don't let a bad match or an officer-d****e ruin your day. It doesn't worth it.
Also I find this laughable, every time I've seen you in game you are running proto, I don't know about a squad, but out if the half dozen times I've seen you in game it's always with a duvolle and almost always in a squad. Guess your not willing to scrub gear in pubs..
Feel free to extrapolate. |
Keri Starlight
0uter.Heaven Proficiency V.
1540
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Posted - 2013.11.27 07:44:00 -
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Slag Emberforge wrote:Keri Starlight wrote: To the rest: relax, people. We're making a game look like real life. You shouldn't give it such a weight, don't let a bad match or an officer-d****e ruin your day. It doesn't worth it.
Also I find this laughable, every time I've seen you in game you are running proto, I don't know about a squad, but out if the half dozen times I've seen you in game it's always with a duvolle and almost always in a squad. Guess your not willing to scrub gear in pubs.. Feel free to extrapolate.
It's a Duvolle Tactical
So? I run proto, yes. What's the point?
-1.7 ranges: AR 42m -> 48m, TAR 65m -> 60m
-Goodbye my love, Tac AR
"I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
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Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
759
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Posted - 2013.11.27 07:51:00 -
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There are some members of both of these corporations that I genuinely feel sorry for. I really pity some of them as a result of observing their performance in-game over many months.
I often leave protostomp matches because if you're not looking for a challenge and I am; well, then we need to be in different matches. I rarely leave matches these dudes 'stomp' in, though.
Sometimes I look at some of the names in these corps, people I've been following for months and months and see the amount of deaths they rack up in their proto suits w/ proto or officer weapons and I genuinely feel bad for them. Some people aren't looking for a challenge and yet simultaneously need all the help they can get.... it's sad. |
Justicar Karnellia
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
168
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Posted - 2013.11.27 08:23:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:...and? Any player should know that using officer gear in a pub makes him target number 1 for anyone n.n It's like destroying an AUR tank. Oh Yes
Exactly. As soon as I see an officer weapon on the kill feed, my number one priority becomes killing that player. Not surprisingly, that player is usually not in the front lines and playing cautiously, but that's never an issue. After 1-2 deaths, they usually take out an advanced/proto weapon again.
The weapons are too rare to run consistently. As for the corps themselves, don't worry about it - remember if you're not having fun, just leave. The corps you've mentioned I've come up against many times in a bunch of randoms and seen them struggle. They're organised, bu there's nothing impressive about a group of people going around in a big blob killing everyone they come across. If you come across them one to one they're easy to take down - officer weapon or not. |
Khemlar Maktaar
Robbing The Hood Public Disorder.
35
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Posted - 2013.11.27 08:54:00 -
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Wow you guys are such crybabies get over it it i want to run proto or officer gear in pubs thats my choice (btw i generaly run std gear). Also we dont do PC cos we dont have that many members and PC is boring as it doesnt require any more skill then anything else. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
2352
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Posted - 2013.11.27 09:10:00 -
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Karl Marx II wrote:KingBabar wrote:Are those salty? You just summed up the type of losers who play this way .. whats wrong can;t get a girl to even look at you so have to revert to jerking off to people getting annoyed at how much of a scrub you are ?? Get a life, try going out and getting laid and maybe you wouldn't act like such a d1ck on a game
Telling people to "get a life" whilst on a video game forum shows a tragic failure to grasp the concept of irony.
No.
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Heavenly Daughter
the Aurum Grinder and Company
172
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Posted - 2013.11.27 09:16:00 -
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Thorgen Ra'Koldor wrote:Not only running full proto gear but all using officer class weapons in .. and wait for this .. a public Skirmish match ...
Absolutely appalling, I don't think I've seen a bigger collection of scrubs in my entire life and the community should gather to disclose their disdain for their behaviour
I was on their team and just simply stopped playing .. it is disgusting doing this in public games .. be thankful I will sadly never meet any of you to show you how disgusted by you I really am
'Shakes Head in Disbelief'
Who do you think you are , Get over yourself, who are you to say what people use. SO WHAT. ! if people what to use proto gear and officer gear in a pub game, so bloody what.
SO ! I put a question to you, why did you stay in the game, wanted their proto gear and officer gear to get a win. ?
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Heavenly Daughter
the Aurum Grinder and Company
172
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Posted - 2013.11.27 09:23:00 -
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Karl Marx II wrote:Thorgen Ra'Koldor wrote:Not only running full proto gear but all using officer class weapons in .. and wait for this .. a public Skirmish match ...
Absolutely appalling, I don't think I've seen a bigger collection of scrubs in my entire life and the community should gather to disclose their disdain for their behaviour
I was on their team and just simply stopped playing .. it is disgusting doing this in public games .. be thankful I will sadly never meet any of you to show you how disgusted by you I really am
'Shakes Head in Disbelief'
Yeap, they don't do PC because they suck and can't get enough people to take part in it so revert to stomping new players instead They are obviously losers in real life so don't worry too much about it, whilst they are sat at home by them,selves masturbating over killing a guy in militia gear with a balacs we are sitting down with our girlfriends ding stuff that they can only dream of xD
You are such a child, listen to yourself. These guys have put in most cases, over a year into this game, so why the hell not use the gear the have earned.
GROW UP. ! IT"S JUST A GAME
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Thorgen Ra'Koldor
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
30
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Posted - 2013.11.27 09:27:00 -
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Heavenly Daughter wrote:Thorgen Ra'Koldor wrote:Not only running full proto gear but all using officer class weapons in .. and wait for this .. a public Skirmish match ...
Absolutely appalling, I don't think I've seen a bigger collection of scrubs in my entire life and the community should gather to disclose their disdain for their behaviour
I was on their team and just simply stopped playing .. it is disgusting doing this in public games .. be thankful I will sadly never meet any of you to show you how disgusted by you I really am
'Shakes Head in Disbelief'
Who do you think you are , Get over yourself, who are you to say what people use. SO WHAT. ! if people what to use proto gear and officer gear in a pub game, so bloody what. SO ! I put a question to you, why did you stay in the game, wanted their proto gear and officer gear to get a win. ?
I was on their team
I did actually mention that in the OP, try reading it and you might not make such uninformed responses
PS It ruins the game ... do you have any idea what it's like for a new player to get slaughtered game in game out because matchmakign is poor and you have corps like the 2 scrub ones I mentioned runnign the best possible gear to stomp new players !!!
When FW has more balanced matches than pubgames then you know their is a serious issue ... The only reason certain players and corps run full proto in pubgames is because they know they will be in for an easy game ... |
Karl Marx II
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
176
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Posted - 2013.11.27 09:33:00 -
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This thread somes the whole argument up
We have the vets on 1 side trying to justify doing it and you have the new and intermediate players complaining about it because it is them that have to suffer the constant stomps
The player base needs splitting up because new players WILL NOT and I will repeat this .. WILL NOT stick around to play a game where they get slaughtered constantly and are in unbalanced matches .. in every game mode .. all the time
The player base isn't increasing ... new player retention is appalling because of this very reason ...
Keep using officer weapons and proto gear in pubgames, keep turning new players away and when the game gets pulled you can take a long hard look at yourselves and take full responsibility .. with a player base below 4k active on average daily there is absolutely no way this game will get onto the PS4
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Acturus Galaxy
Happy Pumpkin
210
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Posted - 2013.11.27 11:02:00 -
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I understand why proto equipment are used by many this week due to the winter carnage event. But why use officer gear which is not listed as providing any prices in the current event.
Yesterday I had ambush matches with 9 rainbow effect members plus some ahrendee mercenaries, only few fielding anything but proto. And a few minutes later a match with 9 maphia clan corp members fielding proto. Why could the matchmaker not have matched these two team instead of putting them up against randoms, that would have been a much more challenging match for both corps.
There is allot of proto stomping going on at the moment, and it is frustrating as a new player not having any options to counter them. I at least can field my own proto suits, lost 1mill isk in the skirmish match vs maphia clan, thank you for the team member placing droplinks that avoided redlining. No isk loss in the ambush match with rainbow effect, 9 protos zerging around the map, luckily it was a big map and I could avoid the proto scanners, damned proto scanners
Some corps are proto stomping ambush matches, some are protostomping skirmish matches and some domination matches, there really is no place a new player can go to avoid the at times very uneven matches. |
KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
1427
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Posted - 2013.11.27 11:48:00 -
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Karl Marx II wrote:KingBabar wrote:Are those salty? You just summed up the type of losers who play this way .. whats wrong can;t get a girl to even look at you so have to revert to jerking off to people getting annoyed at how much of a scrub you are ?? Get a life, try going out and getting laid and maybe you wouldn't act like such a d1ck on a game
Yeah Yeah whatever.
If they wanna use their precious officer weapons to stomp even harder in pub games so let them do just that. Why bother?
Coming on these forums acticng all upset about it tells me that someone needs to chill, get laid or whatever...
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Slag Emberforge
Immortal Retribution
163
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Posted - 2013.11.27 12:39:00 -
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ITT: come on guys pronto stomping is fine, it's fine, just let it happen,
Dust is not a bad game, but I have talked to some new players I have hot started playing the game, they all quit , and the reason as I quote "as soon as I got out of the academy I just started getting stomped without end, with the starter-assault clip often a full clip of the AR is not enough to kill some players, I have to use the full clip AND finish them with my SMG"
New players are so ridiculously outclassed by people with skills (gun game/IG skills) that proto stompers are really untouchable to most noobs. It's terrible, they rage quit, etc.
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steadyhand amarr
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
1965
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Posted - 2013.11.27 12:43:00 -
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They don't care and to be honest noone else really does the gear is their to be used. Players work in framework ccp provides u need to have a go at ccp not the players. Mostly players will never give a toss and troll u for QQing
"my faith is my shield, the empress's light my guide and my fury my sword"
winner of EU squad cup
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Acturus Galaxy
Happy Pumpkin
210
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Posted - 2013.11.27 12:49:00 -
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Slag Emberforge wrote:ITT: come on guys pronto stomping is fine, it's fine, just let it happen,
Dust is not a bad game, but I have talked to some new players I have hot started playing the game, they all quit , and the reason as I quote "as soon as I got out of the academy I just started getting stomped without end, with the starter-assault clip often a full clip of the AR is not enough to kill some players, I have to use the full clip AND finish them with my SMG"
New players are so ridiculously outclassed by people with skills (gun game/IG skills) that proto stompers are really untouchable to most noobs. It's terrible, they rage quit, etc.
It's you guys that are preventing this game from growing.
A place is needed where players can avoid proto squads, I am not a skilled player but can easily take down new players when in my proto suit. The passive skill points and equipment makes a big difference besides knowledge of the maps, weapons etc.
Nothing will keep the proto stompers away as long as it is possible for them to dominate the other team without risc. We just have to accept the fact that some players find enjoyment in easy mode. Like in EVE lots of pirates find enjoyment in shooting down defenseless ships, even if there is no isk worth of salvage, just because it is fun to grief others. This is also the part that allures me to Dust, try to fight against the jerks, no easy fights as I keep away from proto corps. |
Hin Raven
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.11.27 12:52:00 -
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Ridire Greine wrote:Going against scrubs with officer gear? I dunno, sounds like an easy way to rack up some ISK. And as I've always said, play a real mode, Spambush, and Adomination are not worth your time.
If your running militia or standard fits and you kill someone in officer gear that's a big pay day. |
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