DUST Search - Why the "True Logi" argument is false

Cat Merc wrote:

Kristoff Atruin wrote:

I keep seeing this statement that logis can move around just as well as assaults, which anyone who has played as a logi in a squad with an assault buddy knows is not true. You *can not* keep up with the assault suit, even in a minmatar logi. The people making this terrible argument that there is no difference are only looking at the base speed, and not the stamina. Seriously, go try it. To get the full effect do it with an assault player who expects the logi to always be on his ass with the rep tool out. I guarantee he'll be raging wondering why you aren't keeping up when you've been doing nothing but trying to catch up the whole time.

Stamina acts like a multiplier for how far you can move in a given amount of time. Once the stamina is gone you're basically dead in the water as far as mobility goes. If I were trying to "assault" a position I'd take the assault suit any day. If I'm defending one, I'll take the logi.

All good until you realize that my logi suit has a stamina module and is still much more effective than my assault Roll


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Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1376	Posted - 2013.11.26 18:50:00 - [1] - Quote I keep seeing this statement that logis can move around just as well as assaults, which anyone who has played as a logi in a squad with an assault buddy knows is not true. You can not keep up with the assault suit, even in a minmatar logi. The people making this terrible argument that there is no difference are only looking at the base speed, and not the stamina. Seriously, go try it. To get the full effect do it with an assault player who expects the logi to always be on his ass with the rep tool out. I guarantee he'll be raging wondering why you aren't keeping up when you've been doing nothing but trying to catch up the whole time. Stamina acts like a multiplier for how far you can move in a given amount of time. Once the stamina is gone you're basically dead in the water as far as mobility goes. If I were trying to "assault" a position I'd take the assault suit any day. If I'm defending one, I'll take the logi.
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1376	Posted - 2013.11.26 19:11:00 - [2] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Kristoff Atruin wrote: I keep seeing this statement that logis can move around just as well as assaults, which anyone who has played as a logi in a squad with an assault buddy knows is not true. You can not keep up with the assault suit, even in a minmatar logi. The people making this terrible argument that there is no difference are only looking at the base speed, and not the stamina. Seriously, go try it. To get the full effect do it with an assault player who expects the logi to always be on his ass with the rep tool out. I guarantee he'll be raging wondering why you aren't keeping up when you've been doing nothing but trying to catch up the whole time. Stamina acts like a multiplier for how far you can move in a given amount of time. Once the stamina is gone you're basically dead in the water as far as mobility goes. If I were trying to "assault" a position I'd take the assault suit any day. If I'm defending one, I'll take the logi. All good until you realize that my logi suit has a stamina module and is still much more effective than my assault Yeah I use a stamina module on my minlogi suit too, but you know what? Even with nothing but extenders in my highs the assault suit now has more tank than me, and still has a slight mobility advantage because his base speed is higher. You can use the logi frame to do many different things, but it can't do them all at once. This whole thing is a ******** argument coming from expectations that class x does y and only y. Then they see "class" x do z instead of y and omg they're better at everything. As long as we have custom fittings this absurd drama is going to continue. At least until people actually try playing all of the suits and start to learn about what they are and are not best at. Logis are not the best at attacking a position. The argument has been that they have the hp of a heavy (almost) so they can outlast an assault suit in a slugging match, and that the speed doesn't matter. You can compensate for speed with a module, but it comes at the expense of hp. There is no way that your stamina boosted logi can win this idealized slugging match with an assault suit which all these threads are based around.