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Captain Africa Clone1 GRIM MARCH D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 150	Posted - 2013.11.25 20:47:00 - [1] - Quote Were broke everyone I know is broke lol ....you guys seriously need to let the ISK flow more freely ..its only the gawds of pc that makes the millions ... I understand you have a business model , but Dust for me anyways has become a ISK and SP grind ...to a point where Im raging silently after every match. I recon you need to x2 your payouts....for matches played . (BTW I hardly run proto )... I have supported you guys generously for almost a year now and dont mind to do so in the future ......but you have to have fun otherwise whats the point ? Hope this gets reviewed , ty. Cap Join the March ,see the universe , meet interesting people and kill them G£¬ http://grimmarch.wix.com/grim-march-ver1
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3016	Posted - 2013.11.25 20:51:00 - [2] - Quote 518 million ISK here
Captain Africa Clone1 GRIM MARCH D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 151	Posted - 2013.11.25 20:53:00 - [3] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: 518 million ISK here If only I could put the billions of ISK in Eve to good use here ...damn would love to pay my crew a little salary every month :) Join the March ,see the universe , meet interesting people and kill them G£¬ http://grimmarch.wix.com/grim-march-ver1
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 1546	Posted - 2013.11.25 20:54:00 - [4] - Quote Let's put the Doomboys to good use for once! Let's use their Doomness Sight Powers to pull out the worst scenarios that could happen if ISK traffic would go unimpeded between EVE and DUST. Greedy Bastards' Hate Lord
4447 Resolution XIII 861	Posted - 2013.11.25 20:54:00 - [5] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: 518 million ISK here free isk, for all. Troll, For lifeGÇª But maybe a dragon, uh a bigger dragon.
Grand Master Retsof Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 33	Posted - 2013.11.25 20:56:00 - [6] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: 518 million ISK here nice...only 252,000,000 isk here....
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 1546	Posted - 2013.11.25 20:57:00 - [7] - Quote They would fit nicely into Greedy Bastards account Greedy Bastards' Hate Lord
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4294	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:00:00 - [8] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: 518 million ISK here Hook a brother up. I need a dollar, a dollar is what I need. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Captain Africa Clone1 GRIM MARCH D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 152	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:02:00 - [9] - Quote Anarchide wrote: Let's put the Doomboys to good use for once! Let's use their Doomness Sight Powers to pull out the worst scenarios that could happen if ISK traffic would go unimpeded between EVE and DUST. Why Larry why lol , been thinking of scenarios around this ...recon CCP should just open the gates ... more ISK more carnage !!!! So let the sand flow ...I mean its a sandbox after all right ? Join the March ,see the universe , meet interesting people and kill them G£¬ http://grimmarch.wix.com/grim-march-ver1
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5402	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:10:00 - [10] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: 518 million ISK here Hook a brother up. I need a dollar, a dollar is what I need. Amarrian scum. Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.

True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4295	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:11:00 - [11] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: True Adamance wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: 518 million ISK here Hook a brother up. I need a dollar, a dollar is what I need. Amarrian scum. Gallente Filth "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 1547	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:16:00 - [12] - Quote I don't have the big picture, but I don't see what could go wrong in a major way. When you open the gates between two containers containing fluids, one will flood the other one if they are on the same level. Right now EVE container is really bigger and contains a lot of fluids; Dust one's is small and is not so full. Once the Dust one's get flooded, what would happen? ...maybe is some market buyouts I guess (if possible)... Greedy Bastards' Hate Lord
knight of 6 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 692	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:18:00 - [13] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: True Adamance wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: 518 million ISK here Hook a brother up. I need a dollar, a dollar is what I need. Amarrian scum. Gallente Filth "God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon Ko6, scout, tanker. CLOSED BETA VET
Thanatus Sleep 23	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:18:00 - [14] - Quote You are only told what CCP like to hear. So it going to be some random crap like; To honor the forum warriors in helping us make Dust 514 a great AAA title, with all the great feedback and passion of the community, we at CCP will host a pub crawl at FANFEST 2014(like every year) so come join us and buy us dev a drink(Beer). *Im a sad merc* Aq-Rg SAY YES TO BPO REMOVALS ON 1.7 PATCH
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 1547	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:18:00 - [15] - Quote *Caldari FTW* Greedy Bastards' Hate Lord
Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 704	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:21:00 - [16] - Quote Stop using proto gear in pubs, that should help your wallet some.
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 1547	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:21:00 - [17] - Quote It would be great to get some ISK flowing though. We could put up the fight in PC and bring more life into the game. Greedy Bastards' Hate Lord
Captain Africa Clone1 GRIM MARCH D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 152	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:24:00 - [18] - Quote Ryder Azorria wrote: Stop using proto gear in pubs, that should help your wallet some. Man I was waiting for this ...Dude read ! I use a a toxin blue print ..lol Join the March ,see the universe , meet interesting people and kill them G£¬ http://grimmarch.wix.com/grim-march-ver1
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Nyain San Renegade Alliance 581	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:34:00 - [19] - Quote if you did the event for the 100 falchions youll get like a 160 mil isk refund if you didnt even do that though u dnt deserve isk! anyways idk how u can be broke, most PC corps dnt pay their members, at least not in intervals. but most peeps tht run strictly proto dnt even lose isk doing so. only way you can lose isk now is by running dropships, or by being one of the many douches who expect they can run tanks every match.
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 1547	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:37:00 - [20] - Quote THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: if you did the event for the 100 falchions youll get like a 160 mil isk refund if you didnt even do that though u dnt deserve isk! anyways idk how u can be broke, most PC corps dnt pay their members, at least not in intervals. but most peeps tht run strictly proto dnt even lose isk doing so. only way you can lose isk now is by running dropships, or by being one of the many douches who expect they can run tanks every match. Wot? If you won 100 Falchions, I think you deserves it! Greedy Bastards' Hate Lord

Lv2spd2 Slow And Old 97	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:41:00 - [21] - Quote Captain Africa Clone1 wrote: Were broke everyone I know is broke lol ....you guys seriously need to let the ISK flow more freely ..its only the gawds of pc that makes the millions ... Odd... I'm not broke. I don't PC. I am not supported by anyone who does PC. I do not possess any blueprints and I very rarely play in my free militia starter fits, and then not through an entire game. I am not a high K/D player. I am not an amazingly skilled player in any way. I do not AFK. I do not spend matches running and hiding. But I am not broke. Nor am I short of fits. I mostly play in advanced suits with advanced or higher gear. Seems like you may be doing something wrong.
Benjamin Ciscko The Generals EoN. 240	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:42:00 - [22] - Quote THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: if you did the event for the 100 falchions youll get like a 160 mil isk refund if you didnt even do that though u dnt deserve isk! anyways idk how u can be broke, most PC corps dnt pay their members, at least not in intervals. but most peeps tht run strictly proto dnt even lose isk doing so. only way you can lose isk now is by running dropships, or by being one of the many douches who expect they can run tanks every match. So you run an aurum Freedom instead. Vehicle rework scheduled for 1.5.... 1.6.... 1.7........ Tanker/Logi Wait until AV feels the pain vehicle users have
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1766	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:43:00 - [23] - Quote Lv2spd2 wrote: Captain Africa Clone1 wrote: Were broke everyone I know is broke lol ....you guys seriously need to let the ISK flow more freely ..its only the gawds of pc that makes the millions ... Odd... I'm not broke. I don't PC. I am not supported by anyone who does PC. I do not possess any blueprints and I very rarely play in my free militia starter fits, and then not through an entire game. I am not a high K/D player. I am not an amazingly skilled player in any way. I do not AFK. I do not spend matches running and hiding. But I am not broke. Nor am I short of fits. I mostly play in advanced suits with advanced or higher gear. Seems like you may be doing something wrong. How much isk do you have? Me, I'm at 13 mil.....dropships are deep isk pits......especially the assault dropships "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle I'll take your Iskies
Captain Africa Clone1 GRIM MARCH D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 152	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:49:00 - [24] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: Lv2spd2 wrote: Captain Africa Clone1 wrote: Were broke everyone I know is broke lol ....you guys seriously need to let the ISK flow more freely ..its only the gawds of pc that makes the millions ... Odd... I'm not broke. I don't PC. I am not supported by anyone who does PC. I do not possess any blueprints and I very rarely play in my free militia starter fits, and then not through an entire game. I am not a high K/D player. I am not an amazingly skilled player in any way. I do not AFK. I do not spend matches running and hiding. But I am not broke. Nor am I short of fits. I mostly play in advanced suits with advanced or higher gear. Seems like you may be doing something wrong. How much isk do you have? Me, I'm at 13 mil.....dropships are deep isk pits......especially the assault dropships Yea im also sitting at 13 mil ...I normally range between 20 mil and 30 mil give and take .......I call that broke lol !~!!! I dont know ....just dont like aurim items on me ..if it doesnt say complex Im not a happy chappy ..So a 2 sec idea perhaps is to buy ISK with aurum ? Perhaps this might help CCP in the grander scheme of things and at the same time make the average scrub compete with the top dagws .... Join the March ,see the universe , meet interesting people and kill them G£¬ http://grimmarch.wix.com/grim-march-ver1
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 1547	Posted - 2013.11.25 22:01:00 - [25] - Quote Use the "Ratchet" Method: Fix a limit, let say 1,000,000 ISK increment. As soon as you amass 1 mil. you "lock" it. You can't use it anymore. Though, you can use any excedent (1 to 999,999 ISK) when you need to buy stuff; but you can never pick into the millions you have "ratcheted" away. Works for me! I use a mix of expensive and cheap suit to allow some flexibility. I'm now at 76 millions. you can easily save 1 to 2 mil. a day using this method. Greedy Bastards' Hate Lord
R F Gyro Clones 4u 668	Posted - 2013.11.25 22:06:00 - [26] - Quote I suspect (hope) that CCP have figures on... (A) average ISK made per battle (B) average cost of a prototype suit (C) average number of deaths (in a proto suit) per battle They can then calculate... D = B * C / A which is the average number of battles in free or almost free kit required to support a battle in proto kit. If D is greater than 1 then the average player could run prototype all the time. If it is less than 1 then they'll need to grind (or spend Aurum). I also suspect (hope) that they have a target value for D, and are able to tune the game to keep it at that target. Of course, this is all for the (mythical) average player. And it obviously doesn't cater for PC passive income. RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
Lv2spd2 Slow And Old 97	Posted - 2013.11.25 22:09:00 - [27] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: Lv2spd2 wrote: Captain Africa Clone1 wrote: Were broke everyone I know is broke lol ....you guys seriously need to let the ISK flow more freely ..its only the gawds of pc that makes the millions ... Odd... I'm not broke. I don't PC. I am not supported by anyone who does PC. I do not possess any blueprints and I very rarely play in my free militia starter fits, and then not through an entire game. I am not a high K/D player. I am not an amazingly skilled player in any way. I do not AFK. I do not spend matches running and hiding. But I am not broke. Nor am I short of fits. I mostly play in advanced suits with advanced or higher gear. Seems like you may be doing something wrong. How much isk do you have? Me, I'm at 13 mil.....dropships are deep isk pits......especially the assault dropships I'm not wealthy enough to support a dropship habit, thats for sure. Those things definitely ARE isk pits. All vehicles in fact.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1363	Posted - 2013.11.25 22:10:00 - [28] - Quote I wish Ihad lots of ISK Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Gorra Snell The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 246	Posted - 2013.11.25 22:21:00 - [29] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: I suspect (hope) that CCP have figures on... (A) average ISK made per battle (B) average cost of a prototype suit (C) average number of deaths (in a proto suit) per battle They can then calculate... D = B * C / A which is the average number of battles in free or almost free kit required to support a battle in proto kit. If D is greater than 1 then the average player could run prototype all the time. If it is less than 1 then they'll need to grind (or spend Aurum). I also suspect (hope) that they have a target value for D, and are able to tune the game to keep it at that target. Of course, this is all for the (mythical) average player. And it obviously doesn't cater for PC passive income. I'm surprised this concept doesn't come up on the forums more often. My perception is that they intend for PRO gear to be unsustainable from pub matches alone (i.e., you can't run PRO continuously while only running pubs). But, I would like to know CCP's intent...dev blog, please! RDVs are a failed experiment - can't we just remove them from the game?
Captain Africa Clone1 GRIM MARCH D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 152	Posted - 2013.11.25 22:22:00 - [30] - Quote Lv2spd2 wrote: Captain Africa Clone1 wrote: Were broke everyone I know is broke lol ....you guys seriously need to let the ISK flow more freely ..its only the gawds of pc that makes the millions ... Odd... I'm not broke. I don't PC. I am not supported by anyone who does PC. I do not possess any blueprints and I very rarely play in my free militia starter fits, and then not through an entire game. I am not a high K/D player. I am not an amazingly skilled player in any way. I do not AFK. I do not spend matches running and hiding. But I am not broke. Nor am I short of fits. I mostly play in advanced suits with advanced or higher gear. Seems like you may be doing something wrong. Yea I hear you ...My biggest problem is when i get on the battlefield ..Im like a dog with rabies ...especially if its a proto stomping crew ! Sometimes I wish I had a THOR HAMMER to bust their egos ! Im a bad looser what can i say :) Join the March ,see the universe , meet interesting people and kill them G£¬ http://grimmarch.wix.com/grim-march-ver1

Audrey2 Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2013.11.26 01:03:00 - [31] - Quote Captain Africa Clone1 wrote: Were broke everyone I know is broke lol ....you guys seriously need to let the ISK flow more freely ..its only the gawds of pc that makes the millions ... I understand you have a business model , but Dust for me anyways has become a ISK and SP grind ...to a point where Im raging silently after every match. I recon you need to x2 your payouts....for matches played . (BTW I hardly run proto )... I have supported you guys generously for almost a year now and dont mind to do so in the future ......but you have to have fun otherwise whats the point ? Hope this gets reviewed , ty. Cap this is part of the reason why removing bpo's was so dumb... it helped keep a small stable fund in the wallet which was used to make better more expensive purchases. SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!
Eris Ernaga State Patriots 774	Posted - 2013.11.26 06:21:00 - [32] - Quote Captain Africa Clone1 wrote: Were broke everyone I know is broke lol ....you guys seriously need to let the ISK flow more freely ..its only the gawds of pc that makes the millions ... I understand you have a business model , but Dust for me anyways has become a ISK and SP grind ...to a point where Im raging silently after every match. I recon you need to x2 your payouts....for matches played . (BTW I hardly run proto )... I have supported you guys generously for almost a year now and dont mind to do so in the future ......but you have to have fun otherwise whats the point ? Hope this gets reviewed , ty. Cap New faction warfare system. For Caldari and Amarr faction warfare join State Patriots and help us on the front.
Denak Kalamari Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 645	Posted - 2013.11.26 06:29:00 - [33] - Quote I'm doing just fine with six million ISK, I don't see your problem? Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published 24/11/13
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect 1115	Posted - 2013.11.26 07:40:00 - [34] - Quote Captain Africa Clone1 wrote: Were broke everyone I know is broke lol ....you guys seriously need to let the ISK flow more freely ..its only the gawds of pc that makes the millions ... I understand you have a business model , but Dust for me anyways has become a ISK and SP grind ...to a point where Im raging silently after every match. I recon you need to x2 your payouts....for matches played . (BTW I hardly run proto )... I have supported you guys generously for almost a year now and dont mind to do so in the future ......but you have to have fun otherwise whats the point ? Hope this gets reviewed , ty. Cap You need to run a fit you can afford. Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
VAHZZ Gallente Federation 365	Posted - 2013.11.26 07:46:00 - [35] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: True Adamance wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: 518 million ISK here Hook a brother up. I need a dollar, a dollar is what I need. Amarrian scum. Gallente Filth YOU ARE A WAFFLE! The merc with a mouth - beware of random bouts of insanity! - and trolling ~ Proud Sniper Scout
Import Beercase Beer For Evil Mercs 67	Posted - 2013.11.26 07:49:00 - [36] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Captain Africa Clone1 wrote: Were broke everyone I know is broke lol ....you guys seriously need to let the ISK flow more freely ..its only the gawds of pc that makes the millions ... I understand you have a business model , but Dust for me anyways has become a ISK and SP grind ...to a point where Im raging silently after every match. I recon you need to x2 your payouts....for matches played . (BTW I hardly run proto )... I have supported you guys generously for almost a year now and dont mind to do so in the future ......but you have to have fun otherwise whats the point ? Hope this gets reviewed , ty. Cap You need to run a fit you can afford. Rei is talking the truth. He has seen me and my corp mates play. We mainly run 10-25k isk suits on a round. We can do a decent fight agaisnt good players and make profit while losing 5-8 clones. Last night we played ambushes against Rainbow effect and they did win not by their ego or shiny gadgets but effective team play and some good battlefield skills. We rarely went badly negative but still was able to aquire isks. Even against them. "If at first you don't succeed, mccdiving is not for you." Take me drunk, I'm home
Accord Vivid 0	Posted - 2013.11.26 09:39:00 - [37] - Quote crash a freaking drop ship every few matches. GG my wallet, back to default frontline suckers gear :(
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 931	Posted - 2013.11.26 09:49:00 - [38] - Quote i'm not broke
hgghyujh Expert Intervention Caldari State 173	Posted - 2013.11.26 11:35:00 - [39] - Quote stop running proto???
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES 819	Posted - 2013.11.26 11:43:00 - [40] - Quote 1. Run gear that you can only afford. You're KDR may suffer, but last I checked KDR doesn't mean a thing in any game. 2. Get into a corporation, even a small one. They will help you when you need it, so long as you're not just a ISK parasite. 3. Make an alternate character and only use starter fits. Send all the ISK over to your main. 4. Become better at the game little by little. Score more WP, get a higher rank at the end of the game, get more ISK. 5. ISK is infinite in New Eden, there's plenty of it to go around for everyone. 6. Merc out for PC. If you're a good player, you'll get paid to show up in a PC. You'll get paid millions. I get 5 million upfront, every match.

SGT NOVA STAR EoN. 121	Posted - 2013.11.26 11:47:00 - [41] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: 518 million ISK here 510 million lol almost the same. I guess all the SGT's are rich. Been hunting Graboids in my Kubera since 2012
Captain Africa Clone1 GRIM MARCH D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 154	Posted - 2013.11.27 06:37:00 - [42] - Quote Im no newbie to New Eden ,I have been practicing most that was recommended here ..still I think CCP could up the ISK a bit. The only time Im consistently making money if Im am running with my BPO fit ... Join the March ,see the universe , meet interesting people and kill them G£¬ http://grimmarch.wix.com/grim-march-ver1
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1290	Posted - 2013.11.27 06:39:00 - [43] - Quote isk payouts should increase only in game modes where proto's are encouraged to play.
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 1245	Posted - 2013.11.27 06:47:00 - [44] - Quote Almost 600mil here. PC is for chumps. For the Empire Dual tanking is a sin BPO's are bad for economy, Respec's are bad for the game. Want to fight about it?
Captain Africa Clone1 GRIM MARCH D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 154	Posted - 2013.11.27 07:04:00 - [45] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Almost 600mil here. PC is for chumps. You substitute your ISK with AURIM ? You run as a sniper permanently ? You just have a very economical fit or are you just that damn good ? I see a lot of heroes here and I wonder .... Join the March ,see the universe , meet interesting people and kill them G£¬ http://grimmarch.wix.com/grim-march-ver1
Kal Kronos L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 126	Posted - 2013.11.27 07:20:00 - [46] - Quote Get proto>get WP>get top 3>don't die>make isk. Here's my formula, you're welcome. Dedicated redline sniper, tower forger, nade spammer, protostomper, and mass driver.


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