DUST Search - The Shotgun Needs a Huge Nerf

Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:

Under no circumstances should I get instantly bled out as I enter objective E in Valor domination by a player standing at the other side of the building with a shotgun.

Under no circumstances should I be getting dealt 80+ damage from 20+ meters away by a single shot from a shotgun.

But this is what has been happening. The shotgun's cheap cost paired with its insane fire rate and range make it the most unbalanced weapon in the game at the moment. There is no excuse for it. It is a CQC weapon. I should not be taking 80 damage from a shotgun at mid-range assault rifle distance. If even one pellet headshots you at that range, you get instantly bled out, and that is not that uncommon.

Fix it. Either:

Decrease Range

Reduce fire rate

Decrease damage

Significantly increase its loadout cost

or Significantly reduce magazine size

At least one of those would help a lot, though the insane range is really the main issue here. I have seen people laying prone in their spawn getting spawn camped, not spawn sniping, but spawn shotgunning. It is really that bad.

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Moejoe Omnipotent Imperfects Negative-Feedback 639	Posted - 2013.11.22 04:07:00 - [1] - Quote Under no circumstances should I get instantly bled out as I enter objective E in Valor domination by a player standing at the other side of the building with a shotgun. Under no circumstances should I be getting dealt 80+ damage from 20+ meters away by a single shot from a shotgun. But this is what has been happening. The shotgun's cheap cost paired with its insane fire rate and range make it the most unbalanced weapon in the game at the moment. There is no excuse for it. It is a CQC weapon. I should not be taking 80 damage from a shotgun at mid-range assault rifle distance. If even one pellet headshots you at that range, you get instantly bled out, and that is not that uncommon. Fix it. Either: Decrease Range Reduce fire rate Decrease damage Significantly increase its loadout cost or Significantly reduce magazine size At least one of those would help a lot, though the insane range is really the main issue here. I have seen people laying prone in their spawn getting spawn camped, not spawn sniping, but spawn shotgunning. It is really that bad. MAG died young. Dust flopped hard.
Zekain K Expert Intervention Caldari State 522	Posted - 2013.11.22 04:10:00 - [2] - Quote Shotguns in real life can kill you from 150+ meters away. Also, you suck. PS : I want a caldari shotgun just so I can kill you at twice the range. *CALDARI MASTER RACE*
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 7186	Posted - 2013.11.22 04:10:00 - [3] - Quote I actually laughed while reading this. Are you talking about MAG? shotguns in Dust are petty low range, there's only one objective in Dust's "domination" mode, also the Valor map thing. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of the threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic Top Men. 306	Posted - 2013.11.22 04:14:00 - [4] - Quote Yea that 4m optimal is really deadly...woo it's like I'm getting hit from across 0.0001% map. Just curious, what weapon do you use?
Borne Velvalor Endless Hatred 988	Posted - 2013.11.22 04:14:00 - [5] - Quote Moejoe Omnipotent wrote: Under no circumstances should I get instantly bled out as I enter objective E in Valor domination by a player standing at the other side of the building with a shotgun. Under no circumstances should I be getting dealt 80+ damage from 20+ meters away by a single shot from a shotgun. But this is what has been happening. The shotgun's cheap cost paired with its insane fire rate and range make it the most unbalanced weapon in the game at the moment. There is no excuse for it. It is a CQC weapon. I should not be taking 80 damage from a shotgun at mid-range assault rifle distance. If even one pellet headshots you at that range, you get instantly bled out, and that is not that uncommon. Fix it. Either: Decrease Range Reduce fire rate Decrease damage Significantly increase its loadout cost or Significantly reduce magazine size At least one of those would help a lot, though the insane range is really the main issue here. I have seen people laying prone in their spawn getting spawn camped, not spawn sniping, but spawn shotgunning. It is really that bad. I never die beyond 6m, pretty much. The optimal range of the Shotgun is 4m, 5m for breach. At 20m, hilariously enough, the bullets actually vaporize AFAIK since that's supposedly the end of their absolute range. I don't think I've ever killed anyone beyond 10m. Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn. Panda.
Moejoe Omnipotent Imperfects Negative-Feedback 640	Posted - 2013.11.22 04:15:00 - [6] - Quote Zekain K wrote: Shotguns in real life can kill you from 150+ meters away. Also, you suck. If you think this is real life you should probably get some help. One time I got 1-shotted by a shotty as soon as I spawned in paratrooping in Valor Sabo. I was on pace for 150+ too. It's ridiculous. MAG died young. Dust flopped hard.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 7880	Posted - 2013.11.22 04:19:00 - [7] - Quote Normal shotgun range could probably get toned back just the tiniest bit, but if you're complaining about the breach, then....how the mighty have fallen Read / Vid / Stream
ACE OF JOKERS AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 176	Posted - 2013.11.22 04:21:00 - [8] - Quote Moejoe Omnipotent wrote: Under no circumstances should I get instantly bled out as I enter objective E in Valor domination by a player standing at the other side of the building with a shotgun. Under no circumstances should I be getting dealt 80+ damage from 20+ meters away by a single shot from a shotgun. But this is what has been happening. The shotgun's cheap cost paired with its insane fire rate and range make it the most unbalanced weapon in the game at the moment. There is no excuse for it. It is a CQC weapon. I should not be taking 80 damage from a shotgun at mid-range assault rifle distance. If even one pellet headshots you at that range, you get instantly bled out, and that is not that uncommon. Fix it. Either: Decrease Range Reduce fire rate Decrease damage Significantly increase its loadout cost or Significantly reduce magazine size At least one of those would help a lot, though the insane range is really the main issue here. I have seen people laying prone in their spawn getting spawn camped, not spawn sniping, but spawn shotgunning. It is really that bad. VALOR DOM? This is a MAG post. Its Funny, I played For AIM BOT [ + ] With a Light + JAmmer + Shotguns. I might even have replied in that post...
Protocake JR Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 989	Posted - 2013.11.22 04:21:00 - [9] - Quote Moejoe Omnipotent wrote: Under no circumstances should I get instantly bled out as I enter objective E in Valor domination by a player standing at the other side of the building with a shotgun. Under no circumstances should I be getting dealt 80+ damage from 20+ meters away by a single shot from a shotgun. But this is what has been happening. The shotgun's cheap cost paired with its insane fire rate and range make it the most unbalanced weapon in the game at the moment. There is no excuse for it. It is a CQC weapon. I should not be taking 80 damage from a shotgun at mid-range assault rifle distance. If even one pellet headshots you at that range, you get instantly bled out, and that is not that uncommon. Fix it. Either: Decrease Range Reduce fire rate Decrease damage Significantly increase its loadout cost or Significantly reduce magazine size At least one of those would help a lot, though the insane range is really the main issue here. I have seen people laying prone in their spawn getting spawn camped, not spawn sniping, but spawn shotgunning. It is really that bad. Agreed. I also hate when I'm drilling someone with an AR and they just one shot panic-knife me. I've seen videos of people OHK entire squads of people with their knives, while actively being fired upon by the victims. It's such cheesy gameplay.
Meeko Fent Commando Perkone Caldari State 1649	Posted - 2013.11.22 04:26:00 - [10] - Quote lolwhat? I can deal 5 times that damage in the same time it took that shotgun to deal that. Out to 40 meters. lol For the State! For Caldari FW join Caldari Hierarchy Replication Warrior

DeadlyAztec11 Gallente Federation 2184	Posted - 2013.11.22 04:28:00 - [11] - Quote Oh what the!- Hahaha Get out of here man! Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
Borne Velvalor Endless Hatred 989	Posted - 2013.11.22 04:32:00 - [12] - Quote Moejoe Omnipotent wrote: Zekain K wrote: Shotguns in real life can kill you from 150+ meters away. Also, you suck. If you think this is real life you should probably get some help. One time I got 1-shotted by a shotty as soon as I spawned in paratrooping in Valor Sabo. I was on pace for 150+ too. It's ridiculous. Haha, now I get it. That is hilarious. Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn. Panda.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 5231	Posted - 2013.11.22 04:33:00 - [13] - Quote You have to suck that badly to make a thread like this. CCP, thank you for hotfixing the knives. But please make sure they're at their full potential in 1.7.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10489	Posted - 2013.11.22 04:35:00 - [14] - Quote Shotguns are already pretty hard to fit. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier Specialist Current Theme \\= Advanced Scrambler Rifle =// Unlocked
CharCharOdell 1632	Posted - 2013.11.22 04:36:00 - [15] - Quote If you are taking this thread seriously, you are a f8cking idiot. Gùñ-é-º+¼+ò+¦GÖÑ+ú+ú+¡ GÖÑ'Ðe+ü+üGùÑ Gùú -ä>-üð+++Ç++§<-¡<-¡ Gùó Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
ACE OF JOKERS AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 177	Posted - 2013.11.22 04:37:00 - [16] - Quote PEOPLE , do you know what VALOR DOMINATION IS? If not please dont reply :3 This is a good troll post BTW. Have my like.
Borne Velvalor Endless Hatred 992	Posted - 2013.11.22 04:38:00 - [17] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Shotguns are already pretty hard to fit. CharCharOdell wrote: If you are taking this thread seriously, you are a f8cking idiot. Nice timing. Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn. Panda.
Sleepy Zan 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 2855	Posted - 2013.11.22 04:39:00 - [18] - Quote 8/10 Quick, no, hard... I got all your scopes here ... and for a limited time only you can receive the 360 edition!
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10489	Posted - 2013.11.22 04:42:00 - [19] - Quote Borne Velvalor wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Shotguns are already pretty hard to fit. CharCharOdell wrote: If you are taking this thread seriously, you are a f8cking idiot. Nice timing. I mean how do you shove this thing into the back pack? Its nearly as large as my entire back and it has that cumbersome arm shield. oh and the coolant pellet needs to be in a crash case to prevent ruptures because freezer burn sucks. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier Specialist Current Theme \\= Advanced Scrambler Rifle =// Unlocked
Borne Velvalor Endless Hatred 992	Posted - 2013.11.22 04:45:00 - [20] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Borne Velvalor wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Shotguns are already pretty hard to fit. CharCharOdell wrote: If you are taking this thread seriously, you are a f8cking idiot. Nice timing. I mean how do you shove this thing into the back pack? Its nearly as large as my entire back and it has that cumbersome arm shield. oh and the coolant pellet needs to be in a crash case to prevent ruptures because freezer burn sucks. Damn, that is so true. Once upon a time, you could see in the killfeed, "Shotgun (died trying to equip) Borne Velvalor." Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn. Panda.

Moejoe Omnipotent Imperfects Negative-Feedback 644	Posted - 2013.11.22 04:45:00 - [21] - Quote I'm serious...I'm tired of dealing with this and the freaking backstabbing bush bunnies. First it was it was the LMG and now we have to deal with this crap... MAG died young. Dust flopped hard.
Sleepy Zan 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 2855	Posted - 2013.11.22 04:48:00 - [22] - Quote Moejoe Omnipotent wrote: I'm serious...I'm tired of dealing with this and the freaking backstabbing bush bunnies. shhhh the bush bunnies are everywhere. Quick, no, hard... I got all your scopes here ... and for a limited time only you can receive the 360 edition!
ACE OF JOKERS AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 178	Posted - 2013.11.22 04:51:00 - [23] - Quote MoeJoe. The name rings a bell... XD
DeadlyAztec11 Gallente Federation 2186	Posted - 2013.11.22 04:52:00 - [24] - Quote Moejoe Omnipotent wrote: I'm serious...I'm tired of dealing with this and the freaking backstabbing bush bunnies. First it was it was the LMG and now we have to deal with this crap... Was that you? I killed some guy like 3 times today with the Plasma Cannon while he tried to hack. Haha- that is some cheese lol Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1253	Posted - 2013.11.22 04:54:00 - [25] - Quote Guy why are you taking him seriously? He's just another Imp trolling... Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
CharCharOdell 1635	Posted - 2013.11.22 05:23:00 - [26] - Quote Atiim wrote: Guy why are you taking him seriously? He's just another Imp trolling... you're forgetting a lot of the people on the forums, now, weren't around for the imp trolls of days gone bye. They don't see them for what they are, as they have not grown accustomed, even fond, of them. Gùñ-é-º+¼+ò+¦GÖÑ+ú+ú+¡ GÖÑ'Ðe+ü+üGùÑ Gùú -ä>-üð+++Ç++§<-¡<-¡ Gùó Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 342	Posted - 2013.11.22 05:38:00 - [27] - Quote Moejoe Omnipotent wrote: Under no circumstances should I get instantly bled out as I enter objective E in Valor domination by a player standing at the other side of the building with a shotgun. Under no circumstances should I be getting dealt 80+ damage from 20+ meters away by a single shot from a shotgun. But this is what has been happening. The shotgun's cheap cost paired with its insane fire rate and range make it the most unbalanced weapon in the game at the moment. There is no excuse for it. It is a CQC weapon. I should not be taking 80 damage from a shotgun at mid-range assault rifle distance. If even one pellet headshots you at that range, you get instantly bled out, and that is not that uncommon. Fix it. Either: Decrease Range Reduce fire rate Decrease damage Significantly increase its loadout cost or Significantly reduce magazine size At least one of those would help a lot, though the insane range is really the main issue here. I have seen people laying prone in their spawn getting spawn camped, not spawn sniping, but spawn shotgunning. It is really that bad. ..........................................._______ ....................................,.-'"...................``~., .............................,.-"..................................."-., .........................,/...............................................":, .....................,?......................................................, .................../...........................................................,} ................./......................................................,:`^`..} .............../...................................................,:"........./ ..............?.....__.........................................:`.........../ ............./__.(....."~-,_..............................,:`........../ .........../(_...."~,_........"~,_....................,:`........_/ ..........{.._$;_......"=,_......."-,_.......,.-~-,},.~";/....} ...........((.....~_......."=-._......";,,./`..../"............../ ...,,,___.`~,......"~.,....................`.....}............../ ............(....`=-,,.......`........................(......;_,,-" ............/.`~,......`-...................................../ .............`~.-,.....................................\|,./.....,__ ,,_..........}.>-._...................................\|..............`=~-, .....`=~-,__......`,................................. ...................`=~-,,.,............................... ................................`:,,...........................`..............__ .....................................`=-,...................,%`>--==`` ........................................_..........._,-%.......` {:)}{3GÇó>
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 912	Posted - 2013.11.22 05:39:00 - [28] - Quote I thought the op quit for some reason. why did I think that?
bearjew69 PeakyBlinders 18	Posted - 2013.11.22 05:53:00 - [29] - Quote Moejoe Omnipotent wrote: Under no circumstances should I get instantly bled out as I enter objective E in Valor domination by a player standing at the other side of the building with a shotgun. Under no circumstances should I be getting dealt 80+ damage from 20+ meters away by a single shot from a shotgun. But this is what has been happening. The shotgun's cheap cost paired with its insane fire rate and range make it the most unbalanced weapon in the game at the moment. There is no excuse for it. It is a CQC weapon. I should not be taking 80 damage from a shotgun at mid-range assault rifle distance. If even one pellet headshots you at that range, you get instantly bled out, and that is not that uncommon. Fix it. Either: Decrease Range Reduce fire rate Decrease damage Significantly increase its loadout cost or Significantly reduce magazine size At least one of those would help a lot, though the insane range is really the main issue here. I have seen people laying prone in their spawn getting spawn camped, not spawn sniping, but spawn shotgunning. It is really that bad. BOOOOO!!!! DISLIKE!!!!!
Assert Dominance Ahrendee's Wafflehouse 472	Posted - 2013.11.22 05:57:00 - [30] - Quote Forum trolling olympics Mag vets W - 101 L - 0 Dust players W - 0 L - 101 I eat blue waffles when i proto stomp.



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