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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:08:00 -
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I mean, have you seen what those things can do? Find somebody and you will end their, probably very short, life with your surprising range.
A headshot with them is just downright nasty.
Yes, something must be done about these Scrambler Pistols to save Dust.
Damn Imperials!
Dust 514 belongs to the ARs!
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
F.T.U.
621
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:20:00 -
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surely you jest?
i have the pleasure of being one of the few scouts that can go 1v1 with a proto heavy, thanks to my ability with scrambler pistol.
they aren't OP silly.
go back to the nerf AR crap. just because a weapon can beat the AR doesn't mean its OP
*tries to flank a group of enemies. YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
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hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
498
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:21:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:surely you jest? i have the pleasure of being one of the few scouts that can go 1v1 with a proto heavy, thanks to my ability with scrambler pistol. they aren't OP silly. go back to the nerf AR crap. just because a weapon can beat the AR doesn't mean its OP He's trolling, he means the Rifles...
Minnie Scout & Logi
Greatness achieved through persistance.
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Meeko Fent
Commando Perkone Caldari State
1625
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:22:00 -
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Breach ScP+Headshot=Instagib.
Used to use those things all the time.
For the State! For Caldari FW join Caldari Hierarchy
Replication Warrior
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ACE OF JOKERS
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
142
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:22:00 -
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:I mean, have you seen what those things can do? Find somebody and you will end their, probably very short, life with your surprising range.
A headshot with them is just downright nasty.
Yes, something must be done about these Scrambler Pistols to save Dust.
No, you are a whiner and a bad player.thats all.
You are not even whining about SCR RIFLES? about PISTOLS? HTFU LOL |
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
478
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:24:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:surely you jest? i have the pleasure of being one of the few scouts that can go 1v1 with a proto heavy, thanks to my ability with scrambler pistol. they aren't OP silly. go back to the nerf AR crap. just because a weapon can beat the AR doesn't mean its OP He's trolling, he means the Rifles...
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:Yes, something must be done about these Scrambler Pistols to save Dust.
Nein.
Also, who's the noob above me? Someone want to explain to him the difference between a light weapon and a sidearm?
Damn Imperials!
Dust 514 belongs to the ARs!
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Aisha Ctarl
0uter.Heaven Proficiency V.
1796
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:25:00 -
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Will everyone just shut up about this SCR/SCRP is OP s***...just because you got your ass kicked by a SCR/SCRP user doesn't make it OP.
Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given."
- The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming
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ACE OF JOKERS
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
142
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:28:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:Will everyone just shut up about this SCR/SCRP is OP s***...just because you got your ass kicked by a SCR/SCRP user doesn't make it OP.
Thank you. |
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
479
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:31:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:Will everyone just shut up about this SCR/SCRP is OP s***...just because you got your ass kicked by a SCR/SCRP user doesn't make it OP.
Why did no one listen to this logic when they were nerfing tanks, dropships, dumbfire swarms, flaylocks, and calogis. Admittedly, this has been working for ARs for the most part, but still...
It doesn't really matter I s'pose. Sorry bruh; your precious pistols are goin' down.
Damn Imperials!
Dust 514 belongs to the ARs!
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1126
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:35:00 -
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Scrambler Rifle is OP vs Armor and just fine vs Shields.
I know that you've got to be trolling if you expect me to believe that the Scrambler Pistol is OP.
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
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ACE OF JOKERS
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
142
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:38:00 -
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:Will everyone just shut up about this SCR/SCRP is OP s***...just because you got your ass kicked by a SCR/SCRP user doesn't make it OP.
Why did no one listen to this logic when they were nerfing tanks, dropships, dumbfire swarms, flaylocks, and calogis. Admittedly, this has been working for ARs for the most part, but still... It doesn't really matter I s'pose. Sorry bruh; your precious pistols are goin' down.
You are no one. Nothing is going to happen to SCR Pistols just because one random Scrub QQ about them in the forums. FACT. |
Ironyimation Inception
R 0 N 1 N
13
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:41:00 -
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QQ I got killed by a scrambler pistol while hacking in one second QQ QQ |
Borne Velvalor
Endless Hatred
963
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:41:00 -
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:I mean, have you seen what those things can do? Find somebody and you will end their, probably very short, life with your surprising range.
A headshot with them is just downright nasty.
Yes, something must be done about these Scrambler Pistols to save Dust.
You pull people in with the title and betray their expectations for a laugh. Either that, or you really believe this.
Well, the Scrambler does out DPS the AR. However, at higher levels without a headshot, you need to land 90% of your clip to take someone out. It's pretty easy to miss some shots and die. The headshots are nuts, though. They take skill, unlike pray and spray, so it's OK.
Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn.
Panda.
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Kazeno Rannaa
BIG BAD W0LVES
321
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:47:00 -
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:I mean, have you seen what those things can do? Find somebody and you will end their, probably very short, life with your surprising range.
A headshot with them is just downright nasty.
Yes, something must be done about these Scrambler Pistols to save Dust.
You are now on the list for assassination. My Imperial Scrambler is being polished so that you can see the burnished and blackened gold as I melt your limbs, one by one. Afterwards I will take you heard and mount it in my MQ.
From there I will find the data drive that holds your consciousness and burn hole through it.
The AR has already been a blasphemous slight upon the perfection that is my Amarrian Scrambler. But now I am forced to listen to this heresy.
The only appropriate punishment for this is liquidation of all of those that wish to desecrate it. |
ACE OF JOKERS
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
142
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:49:00 -
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Kazeno Rannaa wrote:ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:I mean, have you seen what those things can do? Find somebody and you will end their, probably very short, life with your surprising range.
A headshot with them is just downright nasty.
Yes, something must be done about these Scrambler Pistols to save Dust.
You are now on the list for assassination. My Imperial Scrambler is being polished so that you can see the burnished and blackened gold as I melt your limbs, one by one. Afterwards I will take you heard and mount it in my MQ. From there I will find the data drive that holds your consciousness and burn hole through it. The AR has already been a blasphemous slight upon the perfection that is my Amarrian Scrambler. But now I am forced to listen to this heresy. The only appropriate punishment for this is liquidation of all of those that wish to desecrate it.
Yeah you dont have a lot of reading comprehension,same as me. Hes whining about scrambler PISTOLS,believe it or not... |
Borne Velvalor
Endless Hatred
963
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:50:00 -
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Kazeno Rannaa wrote: Afterwards I will take you heard and mount it in my MQ.
OP is a shepherd?
Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn.
Panda.
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
479
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:58:00 -
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Kazeno Rannaa wrote:You are now on the list for assassination. My Imperial Scrambler is being polished so that you can see the burnished and blackened gold as I melt your limbs, one by one. Afterwards I will take you heard and mount it in my MQ.
From there I will find the data drive that holds your consciousness and burn hole through it.
The AR has already been a blasphemous slight upon the perfection that is my Amarrian Scrambler. But now I am forced to listen to this heresy.
The only appropriate punishment for this is liquidation of all of those that wish to desecrate it.
I've said it once and i'll say it again: ARs are the TRUE sons and daughters of Dust514. There is no room for you damn Imperials!
Of course, neither really has anything on these Scrambler Pistols. I'm looking for some ideas on how to bring them in line.
Damn Imperials!
Dust 514 belongs to the ARs!
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Izlare Lenix
FREE AGENTS LP
13
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Posted - 2013.11.21 00:59:00 -
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As an AR and scrambler user I prefer my AR up to about 20m. Any map where I will engage a lot past that range the scrambler is better in every way. The assault scrambler is a beast and the single shot version can kill most frames with only a few shots. Less if led with a charged shot. And the overheat is manageable if your a good aim. |
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
479
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Posted - 2013.11.21 01:40:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:As an AR and scrambler user I prefer my AR up to about 20m. Any map where I will engage a lot past that range the scrambler is better in every way. The assault scrambler is a beast and the single shot version can kill most frames with only a few shots. Less if led with a charged shot. And the overheat is manageable if your a good aim.
Scrambler Pistols can charge? Since when?
Damn Imperials!
Dust 514 belongs to the ARs!
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Palatinate
Fatal Absolution
82
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Posted - 2013.11.21 01:52:00 -
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*Meanwhile I wait for my rail rifle* |
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ThePrinceOfNigeria
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
244
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Posted - 2013.11.21 01:55:00 -
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Scrambler Pistol right? Yeah it is pretty damn deadly. However, it is completely balanced the same way Nova Knives are balanced. It takes skill to land the headshots required to actually be deadly with it. Without the skill needed most people will find them extremely underwhelming weapons. |
Infamous Erich
Inf4m0us
40
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Posted - 2013.11.21 02:00:00 -
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I don't know what it is about scram pistol threads in the last day or so but me and a couple guys from inf4m0us have just returned and we all are running scouts with scram pistol and i can go toe to toe with some people's best suit and win with my adv pistol and std gallente scout lol.
Closed Beta Vet
Shield Tank Vet
Bring back my Sagaris
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VAHZZ
The dyst0pian Corporation
268
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Posted - 2013.11.21 02:01:00 -
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You whine...so...much. seriously, the pistol? why not say heavies are OP
The merc with a mouth - beware of random bouts of insanity!
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Proud Sniper Scout
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Lynn Beck
Granite Mercenary Division Top Men.
241
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Posted - 2013.11.21 02:06:00 -
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How many people actually read the op?
Its SCRAMBLER PISTOLS guise.
To Op: try wielding a burst scrP or a twin wield Klo pistol. Now try and NOT THINK. Just spray and pray likr braindead AR users, run blundly into any engagement spouting random nonsense, and THEN complain that its easy mode.
-Newly proclaimed Lazor riffle specialist-
"You said yourself fantastically 'congratulations you are all alone.'"
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
1719
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Posted - 2013.11.21 02:10:00 -
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Sweet troll post inciting the butthurt from scr rifle users expecting another nerf thread.
That's Master nader to you scrub.
Skype me @ Zatara.Rought
CCP's Motto: "SoonGäó"
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
481
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Posted - 2013.11.21 02:15:00 -
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Infamous Erich wrote:I don't know what it is about scram pistol threads in the last day or so but me and a couple guys from inf4m0us have just returned and we all are running scouts with scram pistol and i can go toe to toe with some people's best suit and win with my adv pistol and std gallente scout lol.
See people?
Scrambler Pistols make Scouts OP.
This has to stop.
Damn Imperials!
Dust 514 belongs to the ARs!
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Argent Mordred
DUST University Ivy League
21
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Posted - 2013.11.21 03:42:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Scrambler Rifle is OP vs Armor and just fine vs Shields.
I know that you've got to be trolling if you expect me to believe that the Scrambler Pistol is OP.
The pistol isn't op, but have you ever used one? It is way stronger than you would think.
When I first started out of the academy, before I went to using smgs for the higher rate of fire and to allow me an automatic weapon when using a sniper instead of the ar, I occasionally ran out of ammo for my ar and no one had put down any nanohives.
So I pulled out my pistol and charged!! I would get a surprising amount of kills, often times more than I had recently gotten with the AR (note that overall I got more with the ar of course.) I once got three or four with in half a minute to a minute or two, one a heavy. I even once or twice ran out of ammo for the pistol and thought to myself, "What now? I don't think I have ever lived this long." I had no real plan, did not expect to last that long, and couldn't even believe that I was intended to live that long.
The fact is that in terms of in-game power compared to the scrambler pistol, Halo CE's M6D looks like a .22 LR target pistol. |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1218
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Posted - 2013.11.21 03:48:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:surely you jest? i have the pleasure of being one of the few scouts that can go 1v1 with a proto heavy, thanks to my ability with scrambler pistol. they aren't OP silly. go back to the nerf AR crap. just because a weapon can beat the AR doesn't mean its OP I squaded up with you an hour ago.
Nothing could stop you with that Vizam Pistol. I ran in fear when I saw that HMG in front of my face. But 2 seconds later I see 'ol Biscuit here teabagging it's dead body D:
Check out my corp's new website here :D
-HAND
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
F.T.U.
626
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Posted - 2013.11.21 04:00:00 -
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Palatinate wrote:*Meanwhile I wait for my rail rifle* did you change corps?
anyway, i wait for my skill respec...
*tries to flank a group of enemies. YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
F.T.U.
626
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Posted - 2013.11.21 04:01:00 -
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Atiim wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:surely you jest? i have the pleasure of being one of the few scouts that can go 1v1 with a proto heavy, thanks to my ability with scrambler pistol. they aren't OP silly. go back to the nerf AR crap. just because a weapon can beat the AR doesn't mean its OP I squaded up with you an hour ago. Nothing could stop you with that Vizam Pistol. I ran in fear when I saw that HMG in front of my face. But 2 seconds later I see 'ol Biscuit here teabagging it's dead body D: lol i remember that.
gooood times...
*tries to flank a group of enemies. YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
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Palatinate
Fatal Absolution
83
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Posted - 2013.11.21 04:55:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:Palatinate wrote:*Meanwhile I wait for my rail rifle* did you change corps? anyway, i wait for my skill respec... Imperfects died again so I'm pretty much just floating around now. Haven't really found a good home since Ill Omens died. |
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
548
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Posted - 2013.11.21 04:59:00 -
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:I mean, have you seen what those things can do? Find somebody and you will end their, probably very short, life with your surprising range.
A headshot with them is just downright nasty.
Yes, something must be done about these Scrambler Pistols to save Dust.
are you ******* serious?
SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED
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ACE OF JOKERS
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
154
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Posted - 2013.11.21 05:02:00 -
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XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:I mean, have you seen what those things can do? Find somebody and you will end their, probably very short, life with your surprising range.
A headshot with them is just downright nasty.
Yes, something must be done about these Scrambler Pistols to save Dust.
are you ******* serious?
Dont pay attention to Scrubby Troll here. Hes just an attention Wh***
Nothing to see here people, move on. |
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
485
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Posted - 2013.11.21 05:24:00 -
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ACE OF JOKERS wrote:XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:I mean, have you seen what those things can do? Find somebody and you will end their, probably very short, life with your surprising range.
A headshot with them is just downright nasty.
Yes, something must be done about these Scrambler Pistols to save Dust.
are you ******* serious? Dont pay attention to Scrubby Troll here. Hes just an attention Wh***Nothing to see here people, move on.
You didn't really move on, something I would've expected of one so hardheaded.
Perhaps a subconscious cry for help?
SAVE DUST 514; REMOVE SCRAMBLER PISTOLS
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Ghost Kaisar
R 0 N 1 N
908
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Posted - 2013.11.21 08:00:00 -
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:Infamous Erich wrote:I don't know what it is about scram pistol threads in the last day or so but me and a couple guys from inf4m0us have just returned and we all are running scouts with scram pistol and i can go toe to toe with some people's best suit and win with my adv pistol and std gallente scout lol. See people? Scrambler Pistols make Scouts OP. This has to stop.
Because there shouldn't be a way for scouts to kill people?
It takes practice to use one, and rewards headshots by dramatically increasing damage output. Besides, sidearms are SUPPOSED to quickly take down targets, and they are balanced by small clip sizes and low ammo pools (except for the SMG, which is just a really short range AR in disguise )
Think of it this way.
11 shots in clip at proto at 88 dmg a shot.
Damage in a clip? 888. Enough to kill a tanked med frame in a single clip with perfect accuracy. Once you start popping those headshots, you can deal 4-5x the damage, which allows you to realistically engage 2-3 enemies (assuming that you can pull off 2-3 headshots in CQC, which is a feat in and of itself)
Compare to the ScR.
79.2 dmg with 45 bullets in a clip. 3564 damage in a clip. Thats enough for 4 targets WITHOUT charging the gun and WITHOUT headshots. If you charge your shots and have good aim, that gun could rip though whole squads without having to reload.
This is what separates light weapons from sidearms. It's not the killing power, it's the ability to engage MULTIPLE OPPONENTS, for extended periods of time.
Scouts take advantage of sidearms because of the low fitting cost, and due to the fact that we don't need to be able to engage multiple targets for a long period of time. We want our kills to be done fast, and when you combine with a scouts speed, you can actually take advantage of the sidearms relatively quick reload times. Kill a target, get to cover, reload, and pop back out.
I also know for a fact that if you get too offensive with your sidearm, you run out of ammo. FAST. I only have about 3 clips to spare, so once you kill 2-3 guys, most scouts have to back off and reload. This is where our speed and stamina come in handy, it allows us to quickly flank, kill, and escape to reload and heal. It favors a fast based gameplay, and sidearms just happen to work well with it.
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
127
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Posted - 2013.11.21 08:16:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote:Infamous Erich wrote:I don't know what it is about scram pistol threads in the last day or so but me and a couple guys from inf4m0us have just returned and we all are running scouts with scram pistol and i can go toe to toe with some people's best suit and win with my adv pistol and std gallente scout lol. See people? Scrambler Pistols make Scouts OP. This has to stop. Because there shouldn't be a way for scouts to kill people? It takes practice to use one, and rewards headshots by dramatically increasing damage output. Besides, sidearms are SUPPOSED to quickly take down targets, and they are balanced by small clip sizes and low ammo pools (except for the SMG, which is just a really short range AR in disguise ) Think of it this way. 11 shots in clip at proto at 88 dmg a shot. Damage in a clip? 888. Enough to kill a tanked med frame in a single clip with perfect accuracy. Once you start popping those headshots, you can deal 4-5x the damage, which allows you to realistically engage 2-3 enemies (assuming that you can pull off 2-3 headshots in CQC, which is a feat in and of itself) Compare to the ScR. 79.2 dmg with 45 bullets in a clip. 3564 damage in a clip. Thats enough for 4 targets WITHOUT charging the gun and WITHOUT headshots. If you charge your shots and have good aim, that gun could rip though whole squads without having to reload. This is what separates light weapons from sidearms. It's not the killing power, it's the ability to engage MULTIPLE OPPONENTS, for extended periods of time. Scouts take advantage of sidearms because of the low fitting cost, and due to the fact that we don't need to be able to engage multiple targets for a long period of time. We want our kills to be done fast, and when you combine with a scouts speed, you can actually take advantage of the sidearms relatively quick reload times. Kill a target, get to cover, reload, and pop back out. I also know for a fact that if you get too offensive with your sidearm, you run out of ammo. FAST. I only have about 3 clips to spare, so once you kill 2-3 guys, most scouts have to back off and reload. This is where our speed and stamina come in handy, it allows us to quickly flank, kill, and escape to reload and heal. It favors a fast based gameplay, and sidearms just happen to work well with it. Agree with everything here, but I prefer using a shotgun. I can engage three-four people at a time. I'm still a glass cannon, if they look at me funny, or sneeze in my general direction, I'm dead, but if they don't see me, I'm in and out before they even have time to react.
I am the Horseless Headsman.
Director and COO of We Who Walk Alone
Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinion of sheep.
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
855
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Posted - 2013.11.21 08:17:00 -
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I lol'd at how many people that were baited into this.
"I am a mercenary, I do as I need. I'll shed Amarrian blood for the freedom of my Minmitar allies but only for a price."
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8213
BIG BAD W0LVES
775
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Posted - 2013.11.21 09:37:00 -
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Truth be told, my jaw dropped when I heard they are buffing the SCR's range. It never needed a buff. This will actually change how the game is played drastically. People will have to adapt quickly, or die quicker. The game will either speed up to CoD speed, or slow down to a dead stop on the battlefield. |
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