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Boot Booter
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
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Posted - 2013.11.19 01:24:00 -
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I'm annoyed. Big fat heavies rolling around and instantaneously appearing out of their logi LAV with a HMG in your face. To test my theory I timed how long it took for me to get out of a car and I found it wasn't instantaneous!
The best proof of what is happening that I could find was here. It's a bit outdated but clearly outlines the seriousness of this issue.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=llUFoQ448wU&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DllUFoQ448wU |
God Hates Lags
Red Star.
EoN.
378
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Posted - 2013.11.19 01:26:00 -
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This post gave me cancer.
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Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
1547
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Posted - 2013.11.19 01:27:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:I'm annoyed. Big fat heavies rolling around and instantaneously appearing out of their logi LAV with a HMG in your face. To test my theory I timed how long it took for me to get out of a car and I found it wasn't instantaneous! The best proof of what is happening that I could find was here. It's a bit outdated but clearly outlines the seriousness of this issue. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=llUFoQ448wU&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DllUFoQ448wU
I'm annoyed at people who run 'Neo' Proto Min Logis with Krin's Sin-11 Assault Rifles.....
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Meeko Fent
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
1600
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Posted - 2013.11.19 01:32:00 -
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I am annoyed at post like this who think that using tactics to overcome a statistical disadvantage is OP.
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Mortedeamor
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
765
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Posted - 2013.11.19 01:35:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:I am annoyed at post like this who think that using tactics to overcome a statistical disadvantage is OP.
i concur how else do you expect the fat boys to get around on open maps..? hell im specced into lavs just to shuttle heavis with my logi
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calvin b
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.19 01:40:00 -
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Ok you want an answer to this. Simple as a heavy exits his chariot you throw one core locus you then follow up with a proto SMG and there you go problem solved.
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Asirius Medaius
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Posted - 2013.11.19 01:53:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:I'm annoyed. Big fat heavies rolling around and instantaneously appearing out of their logi LAV with a HMG in your face. To test my theory I timed how long it took for me to get out of a car and I found it wasn't instantaneous! The best proof of what is happening that I could find was here. It's a bit outdated but clearly outlines the seriousness of this issue. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=llUFoQ448wU&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DllUFoQ448wU
They don't make sense, but they do make cents...
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
471
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Posted - 2013.11.19 01:55:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:I'm annoyed. Big fat heavies rolling around and instantaneously appearing out of their logi LAV with a HMG in your face. To test my theory I timed how long it took for me to get out of a car and I found it wasn't instantaneous! The best proof of what is happening that I could find was here. It's a bit outdated but clearly outlines the seriousness of this issue. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=llUFoQ448wU&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DllUFoQ448wU
GREAT SCOTT! MY EYES!
I have been enlightened! We have to do something about that!
Damn Imperials!
Dust 514 belongs to the ARs!
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
1473
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Posted - 2013.11.19 01:57:00 -
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The instant we get those personal hoverbikes, this will be me:
http://0.static.wix.com/media/af3e31f8da5b5208655e47d8140b9752.wix_mp_512
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ptj8ODEx0o
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
7754
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Posted - 2013.11.19 01:58:00 -
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Because programming animations for entering and exiting vehicles is OP
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Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.11.19 02:01:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Because programming animations for entering and exiting vehicles is OP
I just noticed you started uploading again! :D
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Zero Harpuia
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
1182
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Posted - 2013.11.19 02:05:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:I am annoyed at post like this who think that using tactics to overcome a statistical disadvantage is OP.
Because those tactics relying on flawed mechanics is totally OK.
Besides, PLEASE enlighten me on how 'drive up to the f$%^er in an invulnerable doom-jeep is even equatable to 'tactics.' Zhuge Liang is spinning in his grave.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
2215
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Posted - 2013.11.19 02:05:00 -
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*You're
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.11.19 02:10:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Because programming animations for entering and exiting vehicles is OP I just noticed you started uploading again! :D
Just a little bit, but yes, I'm trying. I'd like to be uploading more consistently with 1.7 if it turns out to be worth a damn, Uprising killed my desire to record for months.
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
1474
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Posted - 2013.11.19 02:13:00 -
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Zero Harpuia wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:I am annoyed at post like this who think that using tactics to overcome a statistical disadvantage is OP. Because those tactics relying on flawed mechanics is totally OK. Besides, PLEASE enlighten me on how 'drive up to the f$%^er in an invulnerable doom-jeep' is even equatable to 'tactics.' Zhuge Liang is spinning in his grave.
Probably the same way using a bricked logi for combat, or AR d-mod with scanner/ambushing, or red-line sniping, or using grenades, or calling orbitals, or anything else that kills someone while minimizing risk to yourself really is tactics...
tac-+tic
-êtaktik/Submit
noun
plural noun: tactics
1.
an action or strategy carefully planned to achieve a specific end.
Honor is for the weak, and overthought/complicated/non-straightforward tactics are for old men in armchairs.
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Zero Harpuia
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
1182
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Posted - 2013.11.19 02:13:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:I am annoyed at post like this who think that using tactics to overcome a statistical disadvantage is OP. i concur how else do you expect the fat boys to get around on open maps..? hell im specced into lavs just to shuttle heavis with my logi stop crying op and stfu
He isn't crying that Heavies shouldn't be able to get into LAVs, that would be absurd. He is upset over the instatanious in/out crap that we've had to put up with since the game came out. They need to have animations for getting in and out of all vehicles to fix this situation. It might even fix Dropship suicides if people leaving it are shown getting out instead of appearing within the ship and being 'crushed.'
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Zero Harpuia
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
1182
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Posted - 2013.11.19 02:18:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Zero Harpuia wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:I am annoyed at post like this who think that using tactics to overcome a statistical disadvantage is OP. Because those tactics relying on flawed mechanics is totally OK. Besides, PLEASE enlighten me on how 'drive up to the f$%^er in an invulnerable doom-jeep' is even equatable to 'tactics.' Zhuge Liang is spinning in his grave. Probably the same way using a bricked logi for combat, or AR d-mod with scanner/ambushing, or red-line sniping, or using grenades, or calling orbitals, or anything else that kills someone while minimizing risk to yourself really is tactics... tac-+tic -êtaktik/Submit noun plural noun: tactics 1. an action or strategy carefully planned to achieve a specific end.Honor is for the weak, and overthought/complicated/non-straightforward tactics are for old men in armchairs.
At least all of those 'tactics' use pieces of the game that function properly. Teleporting into and out of LAVs is just stupid and should go the way of the dodo. It isn't a tactic, it's an exploit plain and simple. I can't count the number of times I've almost killed someone who pulled that crap, then they just insta-tele back into their jeep and fly off into the horizon. Can't kill the Charybdis, and can't kill him tanks to the self-targeted vehicle-mounted shield transporter, s it's practically godmode. If he had to go through an embark/disembark animation, leaving him open to attack then I would have no issue. Even HALO has these for the love of whatever deity you hold dear.
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
4526
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Posted - 2013.11.19 02:27:00 -
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I don't even....
( ._.) <('.'<)
"There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
1476
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Posted - 2013.11.19 02:30:00 -
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Zero Harpuia wrote:At least all of those 'tactics' use pieces of the game that function properly. Teleporting into and out of LAVs is just stupid
Well, seeing as our droplinks uses teleportation instead of literally dropping in from the skies VIA Section 8/DUST's MCC mechanics, I viewed it as literal teleportation especially with our "switch seats" mechanic being so hilarious.
I'm of the opinion that we do literally teleport due to the switch-seat mechanic, but if it is supposed to represent us mechanically/physically entering/exiting vehicles then sure it is stupid.
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Zero Harpuia
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
1182
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Posted - 2013.11.19 02:44:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Zero Harpuia wrote:At least all of those 'tactics' use pieces of the game that function properly. Teleporting into and out of LAVs is just stupid Well, seeing as our droplinks uses teleportation instead of literally dropping in from the skies VIA Section 8/DUST's MCC mechanics, I viewed it as literal teleportation especially with our "switch seats" mechanic being so hilarious. I'm of the opinion that we do literally teleport due to the switch-seat mechanic, but if it is supposed to represent us mechanically/physically entering/exiting vehicles then sure it is stupid.
I much prefer the second idea, as the uplinks themselves say that teleportation is an extremely painful and experimental technology that causes immense, irreparable damage to anything going through. Using that for something as simple as changing seats in a car seems like a huge misappropriation of tech. I also always though the dlinks would be better as a drop point to show off that fancy Inertial Dampener feature as well as keep teleporting out of the world of New Eden, but c'est la vie.
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
1331
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Posted - 2013.11.19 02:46:00 -
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I'm a big fan of that dude.
Lot of close 1v1s, maybe one of these days he'll **** up and catch me in something other than a C-1 BPO or MLT Scout.
Til then, GG S.B.
(Yes, I know that there is more than 1, but he's the only one I see consistently.)
Cheeseburgers.
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Boot Booter
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
148
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Posted - 2013.11.19 03:54:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Boot Booter wrote:I'm annoyed. Big fat heavies rolling around and instantaneously appearing out of their logi LAV with a HMG in your face. To test my theory I timed how long it took for me to get out of a car and I found it wasn't instantaneous! The best proof of what is happening that I could find was here. It's a bit outdated but clearly outlines the seriousness of this issue. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=llUFoQ448wU&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DllUFoQ448wU I'm annoyed at people who run 'Neo' Proto Min Logis with Krin's Sin-11 Assault Rifles.....
LOL I am guilty of this. My personal crusade to kill other protos requires drastic methods. Plus I was experimenting. |
Boot Booter
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
148
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Posted - 2013.11.19 03:55:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:I am annoyed at post like this who think that using tactics to overcome a statistical disadvantage is OP. i concur how else do you expect the fat boys to get around on open maps..? hell im specced into lavs just to shuttle heavis with my logi stop crying op and stfu
Not crying.. Actually it's not just towards heavies.. I'm actually annoyed that anyone can instantly get out of a car firing. Shouldn't there be an animation or something of them getting out? Idk. |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
98
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Posted - 2013.11.19 04:02:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Boot Booter wrote:I'm annoyed. Big fat heavies rolling around and instantaneously appearing out of their logi LAV with a HMG in your face. To test my theory I timed how long it took for me to get out of a car and I found it wasn't instantaneous! The best proof of what is happening that I could find was here. It's a bit outdated but clearly outlines the seriousness of this issue. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=llUFoQ448wU&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DllUFoQ448wU I'm annoyed at people who run 'Neo' Proto Min Logis with Krin's Sin-11 Assault Rifles.....
i have plenty of kirns....
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Audacious Mandate
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.11.19 04:28:00 -
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Although I concur about the ridiculousness of instantaneous in-out transitions, I use the LAV myself to haul my fat @$$ anywhere the action is. I find half the time there's no transition, half there's a split second where I can see enemies as if I'm out of the truck but can't shoot. Not sure why this is, but it seems like an easy way for CCP to hotfix this, just put a timer on it like some of the longer weapon switches, and voila, problem of "fairness" solved. I use LAVS for my Heavy, and I'd be in favor of it. |
CharCharOdell
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Posted - 2013.11.19 05:01:00 -
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sounds like someone figured out how to get inside of your AR range and out DPS you.
tactics are OP. nerf tactics/
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Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
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Posted - 2013.11.19 06:07:00 -
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Zero Harpuia wrote:Besides, PLEASE enlighten me on how 'drive up to the f$%^er in an invulnerable doom-jeep' is even equatable to 'tactics.' Zhuge Liang is spinning in his grave.
No he isn't. Zhuge Liang is doing a slow clap and saying, "GG, Chariot-riding Budai. GG."
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TuFar Gon
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
44
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Posted - 2013.11.19 14:27:00 -
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Ugh!!! Just ugh!! we gotta get around somehow u phuking cry baby btch,,WUT DA HELL!! Can we heavies do anything without u pussssi mediums cryin about it. |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
1460
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Posted - 2013.11.19 15:08:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Boot Booter wrote:I'm annoyed. Big fat heavies rolling around and instantaneously appearing out of their logi LAV with a HMG in your face. To test my theory I timed how long it took for me to get out of a car and I found it wasn't instantaneous! The best proof of what is happening that I could find was here. It's a bit outdated but clearly outlines the seriousness of this issue. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=llUFoQ448wU&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DllUFoQ448wU I'm annoyed at people who run 'Neo' Proto Min Logis with Krin's Sin-11 Assault Rifles.....
Lol
Level 1 forum warrior.
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Boot Booter
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
154
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Posted - 2013.11.19 16:55:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:sounds like someone figured out how to get inside of your AR range and out DPS you.
tactics are OP. nerf tactics/
I don't really use the AR..? |
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Boot Booter
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
154
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Posted - 2013.11.19 16:56:00 -
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TuFar Gon wrote:Ugh!!! Just ugh!! we gotta get around somehow u phuking cry baby btch,,WUT DA HELL!! Can we heavies do anything without u pussssi mediums cryin about it.
Here's to missing the point. Cheers. |
Zero Harpuia
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
1184
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Posted - 2013.11.19 16:59:00 -
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Disturbingly Bored wrote:Zero Harpuia wrote:Besides, PLEASE enlighten me on how 'drive up to the f$%^er in an invulnerable doom-jeep' is even equatable to 'tactics.' Zhuge Liang is spinning in his grave. No he isn't. Zhuge Liang is doing a slow clap and saying, "GG, Chariot-riding Budai. GG."
You say that now, but it's only a matter of time until the GalLogis start using this with shotguns. We'll see who's crying foul then about egress animations.
Hint: It will be everyone.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe PC
RISE of LEGION
106
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Posted - 2013.11.19 16:59:00 -
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AV nades kill the heavy in his LAV easier than it is to kill him with anything once he gets out.
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Karl Marx II
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
61
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Posted - 2013.11.19 17:02:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:I am annoyed at post like this who think that using tactics to overcome a statistical disadvantage is OP. i concur how else do you expect the fat boys to get around on open maps..? hell im specced into lavs just to shuttle heavis with my logi stop crying op and stfu
The point he is making is that you shouldn't be able to instantly jump in and out of LAVs .. I have to admit that it's a petty silly mechanic .. go to back of vehicle press circle and instantly in the drivers seat .. I mean that's stupid
He isn't complaining about Heavies using Logi's LOL
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Slag Emberforge
Immortal Retribution
126
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Posted - 2013.11.19 17:12:00 -
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Lol, to some extent the in out of LAVs is a bit.. Wrong.
But seriously.
Do you even (lift) AV? An Advanced AV nade or two can usually take out most LAVs much easier to kill them in the car than out. |
Boot Booter
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
155
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Posted - 2013.11.19 17:18:00 -
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Slag Emberforge wrote:Lol, to some extent the in out of LAVs is a bit.. Wrong.
But seriously.
Do you even (lift) AV? An Advanced AV nade or two can usually take out most LAVs much easier to kill them in the car than out.
Out of curiosity (I honestly don't know), how many AV nades does it take to bring down a well fit shield LLAV? |
SoTarian PoParrazi
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
290
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Posted - 2013.11.19 17:21:00 -
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Can I ask how the HMG range makes any sense? Or... anything in this game?
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chase rowland
The Enclave Syndicate
Dark Taboo
75
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Posted - 2013.11.19 17:22:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:I'm annoyed. Big fat heavies rolling around and instantaneously appearing out of their logi LAV with a HMG in your face. To test my theory I timed how long it took for me to get out of a car and I found it wasn't instantaneous! The best proof of what is happening that I could find was here. It's a bit outdated but clearly outlines the seriousness of this issue. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=llUFoQ448wU&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DllUFoQ448wU
give heavies a HMG with good range, and we might actually have a chance without the LAV |
Koan Zalinto
Bobbit's Hangmen
31
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Posted - 2013.11.19 17:24:00 -
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I oneshot the last person that tried this to me...heavies dont like getting hit in the chest with a plasma cannon charge. His partner got my poor scout after my pistol was empty though. Oh well, still killed the heavy. And my partner got the other one.
Two in the head boss?
Two in the head...
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
1487
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Posted - 2013.11.19 17:53:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:Out of curiosity (I honestly don't know), how many AV nades does it take to bring down a well fit shield LLAV?
6 proto-packed if I ignore my shield booster which might barely allow for me to take that 6th.
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Boot Booter
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
155
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Posted - 2013.11.19 18:24:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Boot Booter wrote:Out of curiosity (I honestly don't know), how many AV nades does it take to bring down a well fit shield LLAV? 6 proto-packed if I ignore my shield booster which might barely allow for me to take that 6th.
Hmm... thats a lot. |
Slag Emberforge
Immortal Retribution
126
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Posted - 2013.11.19 18:28:00 -
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Not a vet, I use cheapo LAVs of course if you have 20 mil SP or you are a vehicle first infantry second person that dramatically alters the engagement. |
MassiveNine
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
536
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Posted - 2013.11.19 18:44:00 -
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Would you tell an armed forces veteran that he's a scrub because he used a hummer to protect himself and travel across large areas? that's what I thought.
Official DUST514 LAV Mechanic
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Boot Booter
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
155
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Posted - 2013.11.19 18:59:00 -
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MassiveNine wrote:Would you tell an armed forces veteran that he's a scrub because he used a hummer to protect himself and travel across large areas? that's what I thought.
Didn't know that armed forces hummers came with the teleportation feature. |
Mortedeamor
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
769
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Posted - 2013.11.19 19:07:00 -
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Zero Harpuia wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:I am annoyed at post like this who think that using tactics to overcome a statistical disadvantage is OP. i concur how else do you expect the fat boys to get around on open maps..? hell im specced into lavs just to shuttle heavis with my logi stop crying op and stfu He isn't crying that Heavies shouldn't be able to get into LAVs, that would be absurd. He is upset over the instatanious in/out crap that we've had to put up with since the game came out. They need to have animations for getting in and out of all vehicles to fix this situation. It might even fix Dropship suicides if people leaving it are shown getting out instead of appearing within the ship and being 'crushed.'
you practically jump out not everything needs a animation ...there is no long and tedious deployment animation for re's like there is in most games..and look people chuck em off roofs like nades..in the time any animation occurred any one would slaughter any suit in dust it only takes about 2.5 secs to kill any suit in the game...if you dont want that heavy popping in your face carry av nades..i do and when heavies try and pull that **** their lav dies wiping out their shield and then they get my proto smg to the face along with the heavy 2 feet to my lefts hmg(i always role with the fat boys)...actually if u do that once bet that heavy wont come near u again..he wil make a point NOT to try and jump you lol (in other words get good stop crying)
animations for leaving vehicles a good idea yeah NO |
SoTarian PoParrazi
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
291
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Posted - 2013.11.19 19:07:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:MassiveNine wrote:Would you tell an armed forces veteran that he's a scrub because he used a hummer to protect himself and travel across large areas? that's what I thought. Didn't know that armed forces hummers came with the teleportation feature.
Wouldn't need teleportation feature if it had bullet proof glass like real hum-ves. That would cause some REAL tears. Be glad for what you get. ;)
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Robocop Junior
The Surrogates Of War
366
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Posted - 2013.11.19 19:56:00 -
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TuFar Gon wrote:Ugh!!! Just ugh!! we gotta get around somehow u phuking cry baby btch,,WUT DA HELL!! Can we heavies do anything without u pussssi mediums cryin about it.
Wow this response is typical of your arrogant tryhard corp wouldn't surprise me if you were all little boys. |
MassiveNine
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
536
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Posted - 2013.11.19 20:10:00 -
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Robocop Junior wrote:TuFar Gon wrote:Ugh!!! Just ugh!! we gotta get around somehow u phuking cry baby btch,,WUT DA HELL!! Can we heavies do anything without u pussssi mediums cryin about it. Wow this response is typical of your arrogant tryhard corp wouldn't surprise me if you were all little boys.
Well besides his grammar which could use some work he's absolutely right. We get nerfed, tons of people leave the frame. Those who do stay figure out a good way to use it, people come back. All of a sudden it's OP again, and you see the little babies in this thread crying about it. Wa Wa Boo Hoo A heavy in a LAV killed me. I'm sorry, but could you tell me what a LAV is for then if it's not supposed to be used to carry me around?
Official DUST514 LAV Mechanic
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Boot Booter
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
155
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Posted - 2013.11.19 22:21:00 -
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MassiveNine wrote:Robocop Junior wrote:TuFar Gon wrote:Ugh!!! Just ugh!! we gotta get around somehow u phuking cry baby btch,,WUT DA HELL!! Can we heavies do anything without u pussssi mediums cryin about it. Wow this response is typical of your arrogant tryhard corp wouldn't surprise me if you were all little boys. Well besides his grammar which could use some work he's absolutely right. We get nerfed, tons of people leave the frame. Those who do stay figure out a good way to use it, people come back. All of a sudden it's OP again, and you see the little babies in this thread crying about it. Wa Wa Boo Hoo A heavy in a LAV killed me. I'm sorry, but could you tell me what a LAV is for then if it's not supposed to be used to carry me around?
Wow you guys are clowns. I'm not really complaining about heavies using LAVs. Let me break it down for you. First, I love heavies. I think they need more weapons but that's a whole different topic. Heavies play a very specialized role in dust. Some heavies thinking that they are a Rambo God creation are the root cause of everyone "crying" for a buff. I think they're are fine to good at doing what they are intended. Second, this post isn't specific to heavies. I am really talking about the instant in and out of vehicles. This is a poor mechanic in dust that anyone can abuse. The reason I brought up heavies is because they are most likely to use this because the hmg sucks everywhere but CQC. Third, did I ever cry like you depicted? I was more making a joke that is related to something that should probably be fixed.
Get good at reading comprehension?
To answer your question, what is an LAV for? It's for transporting troops from point A to point B. It's not for abusing a poor game mechanic and driving around the entire match looking for easy 1v1s. Oh and if it turns out things aren't working out let's just press circle and instantly be safe and cruise off into the sunset. Now tell me, who's more of a ***** cry baby?
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Boot Booter
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
158
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Posted - 2013.11.19 23:16:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Zero Harpuia wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:I am annoyed at post like this who think that using tactics to overcome a statistical disadvantage is OP. i concur how else do you expect the fat boys to get around on open maps..? hell im specced into lavs just to shuttle heavis with my logi stop crying op and stfu He isn't crying that Heavies shouldn't be able to get into LAVs, that would be absurd. He is upset over the instatanious in/out crap that we've had to put up with since the game came out. They need to have animations for getting in and out of all vehicles to fix this situation. It might even fix Dropship suicides if people leaving it are shown getting out instead of appearing within the ship and being 'crushed.' you practically jump out not everything needs a animation ...there is no long and tedious deployment animation for re's like there is in most games..and look people chuck em off roofs like nades..in the time any animation occurred any one would slaughter any suit in dust it only takes about 2.5 secs to kill any suit in the game...if you dont want that heavy popping in your face carry av nades..i do and when heavies try and pull that **** their lav dies wiping out their shield and then they get my proto smg to the face along with the heavy 2 feet to my lefts hmg(i always role with the fat boys)...actually if u do that once bet that heavy wont come near u again..he wil make a point NOT to try and jump you lol (in other words get good stop crying) animations for leaving vehicles a good idea yeah NO
It's about making the game feel more realistic. I'm not saying we should have an animation where the guy climbs in, buckles his seat belt, and adjusts the mirrors. Just a quick half second hop over the door into the seat. Or at least having to be in the right location. How can someone standing at the tail of a car instantly be in the drivers seat? Hell, even make it so the doors are a shield you can climb quickly through but can't shoot through. There's animations for climbing ladders. You don't just press a button and appear at the top. The time it takes for this proposed animation would be an incentive not to use cars as a easy ambush mode. People who believe using an LAV in the manner I have previously described is a legit and realistic tactic are either 1) too stupid to understand or 2) lying because they like to abuse this. Period. In a game like dust, there is no argument that can be made with the foundation "realistic = bad".
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Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization
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Posted - 2013.11.19 23:19:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:LOL I am guilty of this. My personal crusade to kill other protos requires drastic methods. Plus I was experimenting.
I was in a match where you were "experimenting". I, too, was experimenting, with a more flank-favored Militia Scout Suit with a Burst Assault Rifle. Seeing if Scouts were better at longer ranges than in CQC.
Turns out they aren't when faced with a Krin's right in their face :/
ö/\ö :D
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Ridire Greine
10
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Posted - 2013.11.19 23:24:00 -
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Ah, but is your car a convertible?
Thats Rid-air-a Gray-nah, for all you scrubs out there.
D:
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Boot Booter
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
158
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Posted - 2013.11.19 23:33:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Boot Booter wrote:LOL I am guilty of this. My personal crusade to kill other protos requires drastic methods. Plus I was experimenting. I was in a match where you were "experimenting". I, too, was experimenting, with a more flank-favored Militia Scout Suit with a Burst Assault Rifle. Seeing if Scouts were better at longer ranges than in CQC. Turns out they aren't when faced with a Krin's right in their face :/
Haha sorry man I promise I don't usually try to pub stomp with PC gear. At least you didn't run into me "experimenting" with my balac gar AR. If it's any consolance, I lost the krin in that match too. Btw. Use the tac AR for the long range scout thing. The burst is just a weird twisted Gallente version of the upcoming God rifle. |
Patrick57
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Posted - 2013.11.19 23:36:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:Haha sorry man I promise I don't usually try to pub stomp with PC gear. At least you didn't run into me "experimenting" with my balac gar AR. If it's any consolance, I lost the krin in that match too. Btw. Use the tac AR for the long range scout thing. The burst is just a weird twisted Gallente version of the upcoming God rifle.
IIRC you lost 5 
I was also trying it out to see if I like the Combat Rifle :D
ö/\ö :D
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Boot Booter
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
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Posted - 2013.11.19 23:40:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Boot Booter wrote:Haha sorry man I promise I don't usually try to pub stomp with PC gear. At least you didn't run into me "experimenting" with my balac gar AR. If it's any consolance, I lost the krin in that match too. Btw. Use the tac AR for the long range scout thing. The burst is just a weird twisted Gallente version of the upcoming God rifle. IIRC you lost 5 I was also trying it out to see if I like the Combat Rifle :D
LOL probs did. It's just a Duvolle with a few extra rounds. Not too special. How often do you get one shot with a Thale from some red line sniper? As soon as I break out an officer AR though.. Poo hits fans.
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MassiveNine
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
543
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Posted - 2013.11.20 00:45:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:MassiveNine wrote:Robocop Junior wrote:TuFar Gon wrote:Ugh!!! Just ugh!! we gotta get around somehow u phuking cry baby btch,,WUT DA HELL!! Can we heavies do anything without u pussssi mediums cryin about it. Wow this response is typical of your arrogant tryhard corp wouldn't surprise me if you were all little boys. Well besides his grammar which could use some work he's absolutely right. We get nerfed, tons of people leave the frame. Those who do stay figure out a good way to use it, people come back. All of a sudden it's OP again, and you see the little babies in this thread crying about it. Wa Wa Boo Hoo A heavy in a LAV killed me. I'm sorry, but could you tell me what a LAV is for then if it's not supposed to be used to carry me around? Wow you guys are clowns. I'm not really complaining about heavies using LAVs. Let me break it down for you. First, I love heavies. I think they need more weapons but that's a whole different topic. Heavies play a very specialized role in dust. Some heavies thinking that they are a Rambo God creation are the root cause of everyone "crying" for a buff. I think they're are fine to good at doing what they are intended. Second, this post isn't specific to heavies. I am really talking about the instant in and out of vehicles. This is a poor mechanic in dust that anyone can abuse. The reason I brought up heavies is because they are most likely to use this because the hmg sucks everywhere but CQC. Third, did I ever cry like you depicted? I was more making a joke that is related to something that should probably be fixed. Get good at reading comprehension? To answer your question, what is an LAV for? It's for transporting troops from point A to point B. It's not for abusing a poor game mechanic and driving around the entire match looking for easy 1v1s. Oh and if it turns out things aren't working out let's just press circle and instantly be safe and cruise off into the sunset. Now tell me, who's more of a ***** cry baby?
It's funny, when people have a bad argument the first things they attack are grammar and "comprehension." Maybe you're the person who should go back and re-read things. Never once did I single you out as a cry baby. CCP is built around broken mechanics we just have to do what we can to survive until things get fixed or better. With the new HP buff they have definitely been better but I won't stop "crying" until we get all our racial suits and more weapons. I'm sorry that you felt the need to defend yourself over your own mistake, but maybe you should read things twice before you let poopy fall out that open hole in your face.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
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Posted - 2013.11.20 00:57:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:I'm annoyed. Big fat heavies rolling around and instantaneously appearing out of their logi LAV with a HMG in your face. To test my theory I timed how long it took for me to get out of a car and I found it wasn't instantaneous! The best proof of what is happening that I could find was here. It's a bit outdated but clearly outlines the seriousness of this issue. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=llUFoQ448wU&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DllUFoQ448wU
Actually, heavies overcoming their built in disadvantage by riding around in LAVs makes a lot of sense.
Though, I will admit that I have always thought that we should have entrance and exit animations for vehicles as well as alterations to LAV performance based on dropsuit mass but that is probably just me.
I mean, I know it is a game but I think that some things that make sense on a basic level should be included
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Leovarian L Lavitz
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Posted - 2013.11.20 01:04:00 -
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I love to do this with my medium suits, but it is a blessing for heavies. If I couldn't exit instantly I'd probably roll the Lav to toss myself into the air and then come in from above, shooting all the way. (I do this sometimes for fun.)
I mostly use the LAV tactic when I'm running solo. It's my wingman when I don't have anyone to back me up.
Omni-Soldier
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Boot Booter
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
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Posted - 2013.11.20 01:43:00 -
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MassiveNine wrote: It's funny, when people have a bad argument the first things they attack are grammar and "comprehension." Maybe you're the person who should go back and re-read things. Never once did I single you out as a cry baby. CCP is built around broken mechanics we just have to do what we can to survive until things get fixed or better. With the new HP buff they have definitely been better but I won't stop "crying" until we get all our racial suits and more weapons. I'm sorry that you felt the need to defend yourself over your own mistake, but maybe you should read things twice before you let poopy fall out that open hole in your face.
I never attacked anyones grammer... I said "Get good reading comprehension?" as a joke about the popular "Get good?" saying which is roughly analogous to some people's argument to why some people should stop being cry babies about this subject.
Yeah I agree, instant LAV entering and exiting is a bad mechanic and needs to be fixed. Thats kinda the whole point of this thread.
Not sure what racial variants of heavies really have to do with this but yes, I agree with that too.
Any thing else I can help clear up for you? I am perfectly happy to hold your hand and walk you through all of this. I know reading is tough but together, anything is possible.  |
Patrick57
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Posted - 2013.11.20 01:45:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:I never attacked anyones grammer... I said "Get good reading comprehension?" as a joke about the popular "Get good?" saying which is roughly analogous to some people's argument to why some people should stop being cry babies about this subject. Yeah I agree, instant LAV entering and exiting is a bad mechanic and needs to be fixed. Thats kinda the whole point of this thread. Not sure what racial variants of heavies really have to do with this but yes, I agree with that too. Any thing else I can help clear up for you? I am perfectly happy to hold your hand and walk you through all of this. I know reading is tough but together, anything is possible.
Imagine this:
Driving up to an objective that the enemies got to slightly before you.
Get out, which takes 3 seconds.
Before you've even opened the door, you're dead.
ö/\ö :D
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Boot Booter
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
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Posted - 2013.11.20 01:52:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Boot Booter wrote:I never attacked anyones grammer... I said "Get good reading comprehension?" as a joke about the popular "Get good?" saying which is roughly analogous to some people's argument to why some people should stop being cry babies about this subject. Yeah I agree, instant LAV entering and exiting is a bad mechanic and needs to be fixed. Thats kinda the whole point of this thread. Not sure what racial variants of heavies really have to do with this but yes, I agree with that too. Any thing else I can help clear up for you? I am perfectly happy to hold your hand and walk you through all of this. I know reading is tough but together, anything is possible. Imagine this: Driving up to an objective that the enemies got to slightly before you. Get out, which takes 3 seconds. Before you've even opened the door, you're dead.
Yeah probably wouldnt need to take 3 seconds. I was thinking more around 1 second or less. I am not worried about the time; more so following a person moving through space. I am not very fond of aiming at someones dome while in a LAV and then having them appear next to the car guns a-blazing. It just seems kinda unrealistic, no? |
SoTarian PoParrazi
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
304
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Posted - 2013.11.20 01:53:00 -
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So... is this a discussion on how to make everyone never spec into LAV's? Because - if you're any good at this game - you'd realize how fast an AR kills. 1 second is already too much time.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ - Let's make a contract!
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Grease Spillett
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
94
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Posted - 2013.11.20 01:54:00 -
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Made it through ten seconds!
Next time you see me, bring more friends.
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Patrick57
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Posted - 2013.11.20 01:56:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:Yeah probably wouldnt need to take 3 seconds. I was thinking more around 1 second or less. I am not worried about the time; more so following a person moving through space. I am not very fond of aiming at someones dome while in a LAV and then having them appear next to the car guns a-blazing. It just seems kinda unrealistic, no?
Ooh, so more like a huge leap out of the LAV? I like it :D Then they could make LAVs like they were before Uprising, where they would just completely launch into the air when you drove off a cliff.
Jump out at the right time, and you get launched 50 feet into the air :D This could be a solution to rooftop Forge Gunning :D
ö/\ö :D
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Boot Booter
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
162
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Posted - 2013.11.20 01:58:00 -
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SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:So... is this a discussion on how to make everyone never spec into LAV's? Because - if you're any good at this game - you'd realize how fast an AR kills. 1 second is already too much time.
HAHA no man!
LAVs would still be very useful even with a 1 second animation. I wish they would make the small turrets more relevant and useful but again thats another topic.
Yeah I know the AR is pretty good..?
Here's a thought maybe an idiot who drives up directly in front of a couple mercs hacking/defending an objective and decides to jump out deserves to be shot in the face?
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SoTarian PoParrazi
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
304
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Posted - 2013.11.20 02:01:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:
Here's a thought maybe an idiot who drives up directly in front of a couple mercs hacking/defending an objective and decides to jump out deserves to be shot in the face?
Here's a better thought - those couple of mercs should of put one guy to check there backs? How can you expect not to die if you don't have visual of your enemies?
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ - Let's make a contract!
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Boot Booter
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
162
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Posted - 2013.11.20 02:09:00 -
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SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Boot Booter wrote:
Here's a thought maybe an idiot who drives up directly in front of a couple mercs hacking/defending an objective and decides to jump out deserves to be shot in the face?
Here's a better thought - those couple of mercs should of put one guy to check there backs? How can you expect not to die if you don't have visual of your enemies?
Wut? Obviously they are checking their backs... that's not really the point.
The point is instantly appearing out of an LAV is a bad mechanic a gives an extreme advantage to the LAV driver. |
deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
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Posted - 2013.11.20 02:38:00 -
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Welcome to New Eden
Christ is lord
Sanguine knights , open recruitment, join now.
Free tacos
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
1121
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Posted - 2013.11.20 12:04:00 -
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SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:So... is this a discussion on how to make everyone never spec into LAV's? Because - if you're any good at this game - you'd realize how fast an AR kills. 1 second is already too much time.
Nope, I took it as a discussion on how to encourage people to use LAVs less cheaply and more intelligently.
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TuFar Gon
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
47
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Posted - 2013.11.20 14:14:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:TuFar Gon wrote:Ugh!!! Just ugh!! we gotta get around somehow u phuking cry baby btch,,WUT DA HELL!! Can we heavies do anything without u pussssi mediums cryin about it. Here's to missing the point. Cheers. only point Im seeing is u cryin,,grow a pair and PLAY THE DAMN GAME!!
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Leovarian L Lavitz
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Posted - 2013.11.20 15:25:00 -
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The instant in/out thing is a good compromise to being able to simply drive by unloading our weapons at you.
Omni-Soldier
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Boot Booter
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
165
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Posted - 2013.11.20 18:10:00 -
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TuFar Gon wrote:Boot Booter wrote:TuFar Gon wrote:Ugh!!! Just ugh!! we gotta get around somehow u phuking cry baby btch,,WUT DA HELL!! Can we heavies do anything without u pussssi mediums cryin about it. Here's to missing the point. Cheers. only point Im seeing is u cryin,,grow a pair and PLAY THE DAMN GAME!!
I have grown many pairs thank you. |
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