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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
4541
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Posted - 2013.11.18 13:02:00 -
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So I see a forge gunner.
I close the distance since I have a shotgun... And he turns around.
I think "Ok, I'm just 5 meters away, I'll start firing"
1 Shot, shields down.
2nd shot, 1/2 armor down
3rd shot... nope, forge gun charged and kills me.
Am I the only one who sees a problem here?
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Tech De Ra
Electronic Sports League
156
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Posted - 2013.11.18 13:04:00 -
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Yeah, you ran directly at him
Tech De Ra // Electronic Sports League Games Co-ordinator
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
696
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Posted - 2013.11.18 13:05:00 -
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Seems perfectly fine to me.
Props to the Heavy for getting a kill at 5m with an FG. |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
4541
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Posted - 2013.11.18 13:05:00 -
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Tech De Ra wrote:Yeah, you ran directly at him
Going side to side.
In a scout suit.
Jumping.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Luk Manag
of Terror
TRE GAFFEL
178
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Posted - 2013.11.18 13:06:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:So I see a forge gunner.
I close the distance since I have a shotgun... And he turns around.
I think "Ok, I'm just 5 meters away, I'll start firing"
1 Shot, shields down.
2nd shot, 1/2 armor down
3rd shot... nope, forge gun charged and kills me.
Am I the only one who sees a problem here?
Yep. There's always a risk that the forge gunner is a decent shot and you shouldn't just expect to run circles around him.
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
696
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Posted - 2013.11.18 13:08:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Tech De Ra wrote:Yeah, you ran directly at him Going side to side. In a scout suit. Jumping.
This makes the Heavy seem even more badass if he managed to keep up with your jumping and strafing. |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
4541
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Posted - 2013.11.18 13:08:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Tech De Ra wrote:Yeah, you ran directly at him Going side to side. In a scout suit. Jumping. This makes the Heavy seem even more badass if he managed to keep up with your jumping and strafing.
That's just silly if it's even possible.
A sniper can't do that, why the **** should a forge gunner do so?
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Rei Shepard
The Rainbow Effect
1022
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Posted - 2013.11.18 13:08:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Tech De Ra wrote:Yeah, you ran directly at him Going side to side. In a scout suit. Jumping.
Either he had solid aim, or luck on his side or both.
Props for FG guy to be on the ground and not halfway somewhere on a roof/redline accross the map, shooting at moving pixels.
Winner of the EU Squad Cup
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
"Accuracy"
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Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
576
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Posted - 2013.11.18 13:09:00 -
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Lucky shots happen.
Also the tone of your post reads 'wah wah wah I got killed, nerf it so I can play'
HTFU is the typical response ... you shouldn't expect any better with a title like that ! |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
4541
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Posted - 2013.11.18 13:10:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Tech De Ra wrote:Yeah, you ran directly at him Going side to side. In a scout suit. Jumping. Either he had solid aim, or luck on his side or both. Props for FG guy to be on the ground and not halfway somewhere on a roof/redline accross the map, shooting at moving pixels.
Actually he was.
I went inside the redline to get him.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Rei Shepard
The Rainbow Effect
1024
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Posted - 2013.11.18 13:12:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Tech De Ra wrote:Yeah, you ran directly at him Going side to side. In a scout suit. Jumping. Either he had solid aim, or luck on his side or both. Props for FG guy to be on the ground and not halfway somewhere on a roof/redline accross the map, shooting at moving pixels. Actually he was. I went inside the redline to get him.
/facepalm
Well at least he was on the ground .....i guess ...
Redline sh*t kills needs to stop, in 1.7 theres gonna be 6 tanks in each redline if they dont fix the wp/kill gains from it.
I hate the part where i close the objective, then realise ...wtf is my team of blueberry nuts....ah right they are all in the redline..then get gunned down by squad who want a piece of me ....
Winner of the EU Squad Cup
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
"Accuracy"
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Mortedeamor
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
758
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Posted - 2013.11.18 13:13:00 -
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well you did achieve the thing you were seeking death..so whats the problem lol jk scouts really need ccp's love |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
4541
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Posted - 2013.11.18 13:14:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Tech De Ra wrote:Yeah, you ran directly at him Going side to side. In a scout suit. Jumping. Either he had solid aim, or luck on his side or both. Props for FG guy to be on the ground and not halfway somewhere on a roof/redline accross the map, shooting at moving pixels. Actually he was. I went inside the redline to get him. /facepalm Well at least he was on the ground .....i guess ... Redline sh*t kills needs to stop, in 1.7 theres gonna be 6 tanks in each redline if they dont fix the wp/kill gains from it. I hate the part where i close the objective, then realise ...wtf is my team of blueberry nuts....ah right they are all in the redline..then get gunned down by squad who want a piece of me ....
I know right?
I hold down an entire objective by my own, pwning everyone who spawns or tries to get in.
But to hack it?
My team mates are sniping somewhere off in the distance, being useless >_>
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
2204
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Posted - 2013.11.18 13:14:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Tech De Ra wrote:Yeah, you ran directly at him Going side to side. In a scout suit. Jumping.
You took a gamble, it didn't pay off. Sorry buddy.
No.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
4541
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Posted - 2013.11.18 13:16:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Tech De Ra wrote:Yeah, you ran directly at him Going side to side. In a scout suit. Jumping. You took a gamble, it didn't pay off. Sorry buddy.
It shouldn't be a gamble...
It should be a landslide win to me.
I was in a shotgun, 5 meters away from a target I snuck upon, using an AV weapon.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
2062
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Posted - 2013.11.18 13:17:00 -
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I believe the projectile actually is the size of a soccer ball, and at close range this means if you're anywhere within that reticle despite how large it is, you will probably get clipped by the ball and as such be dealt full impact damage.
Also at such close range those things are basically hitscan, if they travel at 7000m/s as advertised on their descriptions.
Just be glad you could probably run 10 more of those suicide scout fits without your wallet blinking an eye. If I tried to bring out 10 assault dropships to try shoot or squash the forge gunner I'd be in for a bad time.
"When nothing is going your way, go out of your way to do nothing."
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Foundation Seldon
Gespenster Kompanie
Villore Accords
194
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Posted - 2013.11.18 13:17:00 -
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No I don't see a problem with the situation you've listed. You either screwed up or the Forge was a stellar shot.
You had all the advantage in the world in this situation, he wasn't on a tower accessible only by Dropships, he wasn't being constantly supported by repping nanohives, and you got inside of your optimal range in order to kill him and proceeded to drop the soap on this one.
**** happens.
1.7 LAVs - Thoughts and Discussion
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Tech De Ra
Electronic Sports League
157
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Posted - 2013.11.18 13:17:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Tech De Ra wrote:Yeah, you ran directly at him Going side to side. In a scout suit. Jumping. You took a gamble, it didn't pay off. Sorry buddy. It shouldn't be a gamble... It should be a landslide win to me. I was in a shotgun, 5 meters away from a target I snuck upon, using an AV weapon.
Using a cannon that fires bullets the size of you
He basically had a shotgun that was bigger than you
Tech De Ra // Electronic Sports League Games Co-ordinator
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
4541
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Posted - 2013.11.18 13:19:00 -
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Foundation Seldon wrote:No I don't see a problem with the situation you've listed. You either screwed up or the Forge was a stellar shot.
You had all the advantage in the world in this situation, he wasn't on a tower accessible only by Dropships, he wasn't being constantly supported by repping nanohives, and you got inside of your optimal range in order to kill him and proceeded to drop the soap on this one.
**** happens.
It never happens to me with any other weapon :\
If I get within the required range, and I get at least one shot off, the enemy is always screwed.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
699
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Posted - 2013.11.18 13:23:00 -
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Tech De Ra wrote:He basically had a shotgun that was bigger than you
Lol. |
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
736
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Posted - 2013.11.18 13:26:00 -
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Yep, forge gun. The magical f*cking pixie fantasy weapon. Tool of the weak, flavor of the month.
If the pen is mightier than the sword, in a duel I'll let you have the pen!
-Steven Wright
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Gorra Snell
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
228
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Posted - 2013.11.18 13:26:00 -
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The only problem I see is that the shotgun could possibly use more beef. When running FG, I think I've pulled off a short-range kill like that a total of once...the vast, vast majority of the time, I die.
Remove RDVs from the game.
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
699
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Posted - 2013.11.18 13:31:00 -
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Gorra Snell wrote:The only problem I see is that the shotgun could possibly use more beef. When running FG, I think I've pulled off a short-range kill like that a total of once...the vast, vast majority of the time, I die.
I use to do it frequently. I would just aim at the ground instead of the enemy. |
rpastry
Carbon 7
CRONOS.
65
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Posted - 2013.11.18 13:57:00 -
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suicide mission... you're 5m away when you start shooting and fire 3 shots at him.
by the 3rd shot you should've been right in his face so the splash from his FG killed him too. |
Borne Velvalor
Endless Hatred
934
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Posted - 2013.11.18 14:03:00 -
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This problem does not exist only with Scouts 5m away. I have caught Heavies completely off guard with my Laser 75m away and after 3 seconds straight of firing, he'll line up a shot and OHKO me. I do the same all the time as a Heavy. I don't act like it's perfectly OK that I have a Charge Sniper Rifle that has no sway, requires no skills and OHKOs everyone up to 300m away and flashed bright red when it will do so, still often dealing hundreds of damage if I miss.
I am in miltia gear with a forge gun. I shoot at a prototype Heavy with a SMG. He takes 90% of my health down with his HMG. I switch to my forge and charge it as I hide behind a rock for a few seconds, strafe out, OHKO. Oh boy, what skill it took! 
Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn.
Panda.
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Vin Mora
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
254
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Posted - 2013.11.18 14:11:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri wrote:I believe the projectile actually is the size of a soccer ball,
I have proof that this is incorrect.
You know that underground turret in one of the new sockets? You can kill it with a Forge Gun is your aim just right through a slit in the ground about 1 or less in size.
The FG round is an upsized bullet, but the AoE for it is what we see, and makes it look large.
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
714
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Posted - 2013.11.18 14:12:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:
Going side to side.
In a scout suit.
Jumping.
Side to side as in switching direction back and forth?
If so, just stick with one direction against forge heavies. If you can get within 5 or so meters, you move faster than people can turn which means the heavy can't hit you. Switching strafe directions can go badly because of the forge's blast radius.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
4543
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Posted - 2013.11.18 14:15:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:Cat Merc wrote:
Going side to side.
In a scout suit.
Jumping.
Side to side as in switching direction back and forth? If so, just stick with one direction against forge heavies. If you can get within 5 or so meters, you move faster than people can turn which means the heavy can't hit you. Switching strafe directions can go badly because of the forge's blast radius.
Thanks for the tip.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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J0hlss0n
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
41
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Posted - 2013.11.18 14:16:00 -
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I want the name of that heavy... so I can send some isk to reward him, simply because he did awesome there. =) |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
4543
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Posted - 2013.11.18 14:17:00 -
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J0hlss0n wrote:I want the name of that heavy... so I can send some isk to reward him, simply because he did awesome there. =)
Cat Merc :)
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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