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Kasira Vorrikesh wrote:

Commando should be removed.

Who the hell ever thought of the word "commando", and then thought of a fat, slow suit with horrible fitting potential?

I think of commandos as being behind enemy lines for indefinite periods of time, which would imply high mobility and lower, not higher, suit profiles, and being able to carry a lot of equipment for self-sustaining sabotage runs. That would imply either a heavily modified medium suit (that was like a medium/light hybrid) or a light suit.

Current Logistics suit should be renamed and classified as an Assault variant; a new Logistics suit should be introduced that would resemble a medium/heavy hybrid. Fast as an assault, more base HP than an assault, 3 equipment slots, take off 1H and 1L (except Amarr), sidearm only armament.

That would allow people to keep their current Logi suits. It's the misnomer of the whole Logistics thing that bothers me most. When I think of "logistics", I think of unarmed trucks moving material and personnel 50 miles behind the front lines. It's just a bad name choice, as is the commando.

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Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1121	Posted - 2013.11.18 05:18:00 - [1] - Quote If you could pick one class in the entire game to remove, what class would it be? Why would you pick that class to be removed? If you could adjust the class, what would you do to it? Do you consider that class overpowered? If so, why would you consider said class to be overpowered? Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
AAGMUNDR Reliable Overwatch Inc. 263	Posted - 2013.11.18 05:20:00 - [2] - Quote No.
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 1120	Posted - 2013.11.18 05:21:00 - [3] - Quote Atiim wrote: If you could pick one class in the entire game to remove, what class would it be? *None Why would you pick that class? If you could adjust the class, what would you do to it? ^ Do you consider that class overpowered? ^ If so, why would you consider said class to be overpowered? ^ "The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1121	Posted - 2013.11.18 05:21:00 - [4] - Quote AAGMUNDR wrote: No. I didn't ask a yes or no question Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2859	Posted - 2013.11.18 05:24:00 - [5] - Quote no
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1121	Posted - 2013.11.18 05:26:00 - [6] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: no Why? Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10369	Posted - 2013.11.18 05:28:00 - [7] - Quote Atiim wrote: If you could pick one class in the entire game to remove, what class would it be? Why would you pick that class to be removed? If you could adjust the class, what would you do to it? Do you consider that class overpowered? If so, why would you consider said class to be overpowered? Scouts, Lights. General lack of any type of niche, anything it can do a medium suit can achieve to a similar degree. Decrease its signature radius, tie scanner mechanics to sensors based on the suit, boost scout sensor resolution. Nope vastly underpowered. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier Specialist Current Theme \\= Advanced Scrambler Rifle =// Unlocked
Meeko Fent Commando Perkone Caldari State 1587	Posted - 2013.11.18 05:28:00 - [8] - Quote Murderlogi's. There are multiple threads where I have answered the other questions. For the State! For Caldari FW join Caldari Hierarchy Replication Warrior
Cosgar ParagonX 7910	Posted - 2013.11.18 05:31:00 - [9] - Quote Sentinel. If every race is getting heavy, the sentinel could be very redundant in the long run. I wouldn't say outright remove it, but give the class a better specialization like AV or something depending on the race. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 0	Posted - 2013.11.18 05:32:00 - [10] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Atiim wrote: If you could pick one class in the entire game to remove, what class would it be? Why would you pick that class to be removed? If you could adjust the class, what would you do to it? Do you consider that class overpowered? If so, why would you consider said class to be overpowered? Scouts, Lights. General lack of any type of niche, anything it can do a medium suit can achieve to a similar degree. Decrease its signature radius, tie scanner mechanics to sensors based on the suit, boost scout sensor resolution. Nope vastly underpowered. message from Godin: IWS, leave. leave now and never come back.

Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 986	Posted - 2013.11.18 05:33:00 - [11] - Quote I can't think of any class that should be outright removed, but I feel most classes need to be better defined with better bonuses. If I had to pick one I'd go with the Logistics Role. Reducing their total PG and CPU but giving them a considerable reduction tot he cost of equipment would reduce their usage as forward assault while reinforcing the support oriented gameplay they were designed around. ADS Reports - Defining Racial Themes
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 468	Posted - 2013.11.18 05:33:00 - [12] - Quote The wild pubstomping protobear; known for traveling in packs. They seem alarmingly intelligent. I can't answer the other questions; i've already placed myself in jeopardy by naming them. Damn Imperials! Dust 514 belongs to the ARs!
Void Echo 2203	Posted - 2013.11.18 05:39:00 - [13] - Quote Atiim wrote: If you could pick one class in the entire game to remove, what class would it be? Commando Why would you pick that class to be removed? iv heard its complete basically came prenerfed If you could adjust the class, what would you do to it? give it low slots for armor regen Do you consider that class overpowered? its up If so, why would you consider said class to be overpowered? Youtube Closed Beta (Tanker) Vet Level 2.2 Forum Warrior
Kasira Vorrikesh Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 26	Posted - 2013.11.18 05:41:00 - [14] - Quote Commando should be removed. Who the hell ever thought of the word "commando", and then thought of a fat, slow suit with horrible fitting potential? I think of commandos as being behind enemy lines for indefinite periods of time, which would imply high mobility and lower, not higher, suit profiles, and being able to carry a lot of equipment for self-sustaining sabotage runs. That would imply either a heavily modified medium suit (that was like a medium/light hybrid) or a light suit. Current Logistics suit should be renamed and classified as an Assault variant; a new Logistics suit should be introduced that would resemble a medium/heavy hybrid. Fast as an assault, more base HP than an assault, 3 equipment slots, take off 1H and 1L (except Amarr), sidearm only armament. That would allow people to keep their current Logi suits. It's the misnomer of the whole Logistics thing that bothers me most. When I think of "logistics", I think of unarmed trucks moving material and personnel 50 miles behind the front lines. It's just a bad name choice, as is the commando.
Lorhak Gannarsein 601	Posted - 2013.11.18 05:49:00 - [15] - Quote Kasira Vorrikesh wrote: Commando should be removed. Who the hell ever thought of the word "commando", and then thought of a fat, slow suit with horrible fitting potential? I think of commandos as being behind enemy lines for indefinite periods of time, which would imply high mobility and lower, not higher, suit profiles, and being able to carry a lot of equipment for self-sustaining sabotage runs. That would imply either a heavily modified medium suit (that was like a medium/light hybrid) or a light suit. Current Logistics suit should be renamed and classified as an Assault variant; a new Logistics suit should be introduced that would resemble a medium/heavy hybrid. Fast as an assault, more base HP than an assault, 3 equipment slots, take off 1H and 1L (except Amarr), sidearm only armament. That would allow people to keep their current Logi suits. It's the misnomer of the whole Logistics thing that bothers me most. When I think of "logistics", I think of unarmed trucks moving material and personnel 50 miles behind the front lines. It's just a bad name choice, as is the commando. What about the regular assault suits? Two light weapons? I Support SP Rollover
Kasira Vorrikesh Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 27	Posted - 2013.11.18 05:55:00 - [16] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: What about the regular assault suits? Two light weapons? That might not be a bad idea. The current Logi suit could get different bonuses that would make it similar to the current Assault, while the current Assault could be modified so as to be a sort of "full-tard" attack suit. The Logissault would be the balanced one, the plain Assault would become the offensive wild card.
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2859	Posted - 2013.11.18 07:12:00 - [17] - Quote no
Robocop Junior The Surrogates Of War 362	Posted - 2013.11.18 07:51:00 - [18] - Quote The lower class....oh wait this game is free they can't afford to play anything else Haha ok sorry.
Ghost Kaisar R 0 N 1 N 883	Posted - 2013.11.18 08:02:00 - [19] - Quote Kasira Vorrikesh wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: What about the regular assault suits? Two light weapons? That might not be a bad idea. The current Logi suit could get different bonuses that would make it similar to the current Assault, while the current Assault could be modified so as to be a sort of "full-tard" attack suit. The Logissault would be the balanced one, the plain Assault would become the offensive wild card. I actually support this. However, they will really need to bring heavies and Scouts up to speed if they do this. "All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 221	Posted - 2013.11.18 08:40:00 - [20] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Atiim wrote: If you could pick one class in the entire game to remove, what class would it be? Why would you pick that class to be removed? If you could adjust the class, what would you do to it? Do you consider that class overpowered? If so, why would you consider said class to be overpowered? Scouts, Lights. General lack of any type of niche, anything it can do a medium suit can achieve to a similar degree. Decrease its signature radius, tie scanner mechanics to sensors based on the suit, boost scout sensor resolution. Nope vastly underpowered. This In addition I want to see WP for passive scans as well and Teamview for passivly scanned enemies...

Seymor Krelborn DUST University Ivy League 1221	Posted - 2013.11.18 08:57:00 - [21] - Quote Atiim wrote: If you could pick one class in the entire game to remove, what class would it be? Why would you pick that class to be removed? If you could adjust the class, what would you do to it? Do you consider that class overpowered? If so, why would you consider said class to be overpowered? I came here for one question and see five.... I am overwhelmed. I give up insert witty or profound statement here _______.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10378	Posted - 2013.11.18 09:22:00 - [22] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Atiim wrote: If you could pick one class in the entire game to remove, what class would it be? Why would you pick that class to be removed? If you could adjust the class, what would you do to it? Do you consider that class overpowered? If so, why would you consider said class to be overpowered? Scouts, Lights. General lack of any type of niche, anything it can do a medium suit can achieve to a similar degree. Decrease its signature radius, tie scanner mechanics to sensors based on the suit, boost scout sensor resolution. Nope vastly underpowered. message from Godin: IWS, leave. leave now and never come back. Message Back: Go kit kat an assault then. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier Specialist Current Theme \\= Advanced Scrambler Rifle =// Unlocked
DeadlyAztec11 Gallente Federation 2642	Posted - 2013.11.18 10:21:00 - [23] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Atiim wrote: If you could pick one class in the entire game to remove, what class would it be? Why would you pick that class to be removed? If you could adjust the class, what would you do to it? Do you consider that class overpowered? If so, why would you consider said class to be overpowered? Scouts, Lights. General lack of any type of niche, anything it can do a medium suit can achieve to a similar degree. Decrease its signature radius, tie scanner mechanics to sensors based on the suit, boost scout sensor resolution. Nope vastly underpowered. ? Et Tu IWS, Et Tu? I am tired of people saying this. Get either a tanked scout or an electronic warfare tanker, play smart. It pays off. I see people do it everyday, I do it everyday. I just don't understand what people are complaining about. Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 990	Posted - 2013.11.18 10:27:00 - [24] - Quote Assault Suits They are pointless in the grand scheme of things, they create problems with people's attitudes towards other suits. Hardly anyone uses it for the sidearm. No changes just remove, it will make the game better, stop a lot of rifts in the community, allow room for another specialist suit in medium set, greater variety! The pen is mightier than the sword The gun is mightier than both
IceShifter Childhaspawn DUST University Ivy League 399	Posted - 2013.11.18 11:32:00 - [25] - Quote INSTEAD... Reset everyones isk to ZERO. Remove Income generation from districts. Change isk payouts to a level that only supports militia level combat modules. 1. MAKE ISK MATTER 2. DESTROY THE SOURCES OF INCOME 3. LET THE PRICE DO THE REST.


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