DUST Search - Shield extenders are ruining the game

Atiim wrote:

Ignoble Son wrote:

Atiim wrote:

Allotek Flux Grenade and Freedom Mass Driver combo

or

Imperial Scrambler Rifle/Carthum Assault Scrambler Rifle

Shields aren't really a problem when you use these

What's your point? Doesn't make shield extenders any less bull****.

All of these weapons have a higher efficiency rating towards shields, meaning that they will have an easier time destroying shield users than armor users.

I've yet to see anyone's shields survive an Allotek. They even make Gunnlogies run home to their mothers.

Lets look at the HP amount from a shield extender and armor plate.

Basic Shield Extender (STD): 22HP / Basic Armor Plate (STD): 80HP

Enhanced Shield Extender (ADV); 33HP/ Enhanced Armor Plate (ADV): 118HP

Complex Shield Extender (PRO) 66HP/ Complex Armor Plate (PRO) : 155HP?

A complex shield extender gives you less total HP than a basic armor extender (80HP) and they have a very low HP ceiling in comparison to armor.

Maybe you should put some armor plates and shield extenders on your fittings. They are designed to give you better survivability on the battlefield and do their job well.

(Yes I know I didn't put Ferroscale and Reactive Plates there)

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Ignoble Son 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 377	Posted - 2013.11.17 23:33:00 - [1] - Quote They alow people to survive engaugments longer than they would if they were using something else in there high slots, oh I don't know, like damage mods for instance. I'm all for HP debuffs like the damage mod but I think that high slot HP buffs are a bunch of bull****. Shield extenders should most definitely be removed from the game, or at the very least nerfed into the ground. {:)}{3GÇó>
DeadlyAztec11 Gallente Federation 2623	Posted - 2013.11.17 23:34:00 - [2] - Quote Flux.... Do you even? Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
Ploo-Koon Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 331	Posted - 2013.11.17 23:35:00 - [3] - Quote weirdest troll post ever (GöÉGöî ).....[ a¦Å^Gûá ].....{ a¦Å\°/a¦Å }.....( : : )
Mr Machine Guns Nyain San 146	Posted - 2013.11.17 23:36:00 - [4] - Quote Ploo-Koon wrote: weirdest troll post ever agree
N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 1555	Posted - 2013.11.17 23:37:00 - [5] - Quote "Or at the very least, nerfed into the ground" Dedicated heavy, tanker, and pilot. You could say i like heavy things.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5185	Posted - 2013.11.17 23:37:00 - [6] - Quote No. Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
STABBEY Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 469	Posted - 2013.11.17 23:37:00 - [7] - Quote Ignoble Son wrote: They alow people to survive engaugments longer than they would if they were using something else in there high slots, oh I don't know, like damage mods for instance. I'm all for HP debuffs like the damage mod but I think that high slot HP buffs are a bunch of bull****. Shield extenders should most definitely be removed from the game, or at the very least nerfed into the ground. By this logic Armor plates are OP and should be removed from the game Just shut up noob lol Gÿú GÖ¦ Gÿñ Gäó © sç+(¬GÇ+¬)sç+ (-éGîú¦ÇGîú¦ü)ßòñ Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ -GòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉ+¦Gû¼Gû¼ +¬(GùÅ¦«¦âGÇó)¦¦ (GùúGùó)GöîGê¬GöÉ (a+ç'¦Ç-'¦ü)a+ç GöîGê¬GöÉ(GùúGùó)GöîGê¬GöÉ
Benjamin Ciscko The Generals EoN. 220	Posted - 2013.11.17 23:38:00 - [8] - Quote Flux grenades... they do exist. Vehicle rework scheduled for 1.5.... 1.6.... 1.7........ Tanker/Logi Wait until AV feels the pain vehicle users have
Scheherazade VII 131	Posted - 2013.11.17 23:39:00 - [9] - Quote Ignoble Son wrote: They alow people to survive engaugments longer than they would if they were using something else in there high slots, oh I don't know, like damage mods for instance. I'm all for HP debuffs like the damage mod but I think that high slot HP buffs are a bunch of bull****. Shield extenders should most definitely be removed from the game, or at the very least nerfed into the ground. WHAT'S THIS? MORE HP = ABILITY TO TAKE MORE BULLETS? It's like... mathematics...no! It can't be!! Armour tanking is the problem, 800+ armour on a gallente logi? shields melt easily what with aim assist and AR spam, not to mention the popularity of the scrambler rifle with some of them dealing 100hp damage PER SHOT. It's not ARs or shields, it's armour and scrambler rifles. For the record I love SCRs. GêÜGëêDUST VIDEOSGëêGêÜ
Sky Kage Clones Of The Damned 63	Posted - 2013.11.17 23:39:00 - [10] - Quote What you smokin? I die alot AND have fun... Who knew?

M McManus Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 269	Posted - 2013.11.17 23:44:00 - [11] - Quote Either troll or he's playing to much CoD cause that is the only current shooter I can think of that takes less bullets to kill someone then Dust in its current state...
DoubleTap420 Pradox One Proficiency V. 124	Posted - 2013.11.17 23:45:00 - [12] - Quote Are you that desperate for attention? Long live scouts! We will prevail one day. Minja time...cant touch this! I make the Minnie. The Minnie dont make me.
Moonracer2000 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 688	Posted - 2013.11.17 23:46:00 - [13] - Quote I think the only thing wrong with shield extenders is a lack of a stacking penalty.
Ignoble Son 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 377	Posted - 2013.11.17 23:53:00 - [14] - Quote STABBEY wrote: Ignoble Son wrote: They alow people to survive engaugments longer than they would if they were using something else in there high slots, oh I don't know, like damage mods for instance. I'm all for HP debuffs like the damage mod but I think that high slot HP buffs are a bunch of bull**. Shield extenders should most definitely be removed from the game, or at the very least nerfed into the ground. By this logic Armor plates are OP and should be removed from the game Just shut up noob lol Logic doesn't mater shield extenders are bull** nerf'em. {:)}{3GÇó>
Ploo-Koon Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 333	Posted - 2013.11.17 23:55:00 - [15] - Quote Ignoble Son wrote: Logic doesn't mater shield extenders are bull**** nerf'em. Did a shield extender kill your puppy or something? (GöÉGöî ).....[ a¦Å^Gûá ].....{ a¦Å\°/a¦Å }.....( : : )
Brokerib Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 29	Posted - 2013.11.18 00:01:00 - [16] - Quote Ignoble Son wrote: They alow people to survive engaugments longer than they would if they were using something else in there high slots, oh I don't know, like damage mods for instance. I'm all for HP debuffs like the damage mod but I think that high slot HP buffs are a bunch of bull****. Shield extenders should most definitely be removed from the game, or at the very least nerfed into the ground. Excellent parody of the damage mod nerf threads, +1 for you. Just can't believe how many fish you've caught...isn't there a quota on that?
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1105	Posted - 2013.11.18 00:13:00 - [17] - Quote Allotek Flux Grenade Freedom Mass Driver or Imperial Scrambler Rifle/Carthum Assault Scrambler Rifle Shields aren't really a problem when you use these Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 312	Posted - 2013.11.18 00:15:00 - [18] - Quote I can only imagine this is a tongue in cheek post. I hope so anyway.
Ignoble Son 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 379	Posted - 2013.11.18 00:16:00 - [19] - Quote Atiim wrote: Allotek Flux Grenade Freedom Mass Driver or Imperial Scrambler Rifle/Carthum Assault Scrambler Rifle Shields aren't really a problem when you use these What's your point? Doesn't make shield extenders any less bull****. {:)}{3GÇó>
STABBEY Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 471	Posted - 2013.11.18 00:16:00 - [20] - Quote Ignoble Son wrote: STABBEY wrote: Ignoble Son wrote: They alow people to survive engaugments longer than they would if they were using something else in there high slots, oh I don't know, like damage mods for instance. I'm all for HP debuffs like the damage mod but I think that high slot HP buffs are a bunch of bull**. Shield extenders should most definitely be removed from the game, or at the very least nerfed into the ground. By this logic Armor plates are OP and should be removed from the game Just shut up noob lol Logic doesn't mater shield extenders are bull** nerf'em. You should probably uninstall dust if you dont like shield extenders sç+(-¼GÇ+-¼)sç+ Gÿú GÖ¦ Gÿñ Gäó © sç+(¬GÇ+¬)sç+ (-éGîú¦ÇGîú¦ü)ßòñ Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ -GòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉ+¦Gû¼Gû¼ +¬(GùÅ¦«¦âGÇó)¦¦ (GùúGùó)GöîGê¬GöÉ (a+ç'¦Ç-'¦ü)a+ç GöîGê¬GöÉ(GùúGùó)GöîGê¬GöÉ

Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1106	Posted - 2013.11.18 00:31:00 - [21] - Quote Ignoble Son wrote: Atiim wrote: Allotek Flux Grenade and Freedom Mass Driver combo or Imperial Scrambler Rifle/Carthum Assault Scrambler Rifle Shields aren't really a problem when you use these What's your point? Doesn't make shield extenders any less bull****. All of these weapons have a higher efficiency rating towards shields, meaning that they will have an easier time destroying shield users than armor users. I've yet to see anyone's shields survive an Allotek. They even make Gunnlogies run home to their mothers. Lets look at the HP amount from a shield extender and armor plate. Basic Shield Extender (STD): 22HP / Basic Armor Plate (STD): 80HP Enhanced Shield Extender (ADV); 33HP/ Enhanced Armor Plate (ADV): 118HP Complex Shield Extender (PRO) 66HP/ Complex Armor Plate (PRO) : 155HP? A complex shield extender gives you less total HP than a basic armor extender (80HP) and they have a very low HP ceiling in comparison to armor. Maybe you should put some armor plates and shield extenders on your fittings. They are designed to give you better survivability on the battlefield and do their job well. (Yes I know I didn't put Ferroscale and Reactive Plates there) Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1106	Posted - 2013.11.18 00:32:00 - [22] - Quote Point on the doll where the ck.0 touched you. Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Meeko Fent Commando Perkone Caldari State 1575	Posted - 2013.11.18 00:34:00 - [23] - Quote Ploo-Koon wrote: weirdest troll post ever Most obvious too. Yeah, you know Armor can get more HP right? For the State! For Caldari FW join Caldari Hierarchy Replication Warrior
Ignoble Son 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 379	Posted - 2013.11.18 00:38:00 - [24] - Quote Atiim wrote: Ignoble Son wrote: Atiim wrote: Allotek Flux Grenade and Freedom Mass Driver combo or Imperial Scrambler Rifle/Carthum Assault Scrambler Rifle Shields aren't really a problem when you use these What's your point? Doesn't make shield extenders any less bull**. All of these weapons have a higher efficiency rating towards shields, meaning that they will have an easier time destroying shield users than armor users. I've yet to see anyone's shields survive an Allotek. They even make Gunnlogies run home to their mothers. Lets look at the HP amount from a shield extender and armor plate. Basic Shield Extender (STD): 22HP / Basic Armor Plate (STD): 80HP Enhanced Shield Extender (ADV); 33HP/ Enhanced Armor Plate (ADV): 118HP Complex Shield Extender (PRO) 66HP/ Complex Armor Plate (PRO) : 155HP? A complex shield extender gives you less total HP than a basic armor extender (80HP) and they have a very low HP ceiling in comparison to armor. Maybe you should put some armor plates and shield extenders on your fittings. They are designed to give you better survivability on the battlefield and do their job well. (Yes I know I didn't put Ferroscale and Reactive Plates there) It has nothing to do with what weapons are good against them it has to do with the fact that the people who are using/abusing them get an unfair advantage (in the form of extra HP) over those what are not using them. BLAM they're bull**, end of story, nerf'em. {:)}{3GÇó>
Altipher-D Altwood Ignominious Front 0	Posted - 2013.11.18 00:57:00 - [25] - Quote As someone wh runs all shield extenders in they're high slots I support this theard. Shield extenders are OP. As it was so eloquently stated by the op of this thread, "nerf'em".
hgghyujh Expert Intervention Caldari State 165	Posted - 2013.11.18 00:57:00 - [26] - Quote M McManus wrote: Either troll or he's playing to much CoD cause that is the only current shooter I can think of that takes less bullets to kill someone then Dust in its current state... but at the same time you shouldn't have to stack complex extenders to compete, he is right that HP has displaced other modules. I would agree that tank modules need a nerf, base hp needs a massive buff, and other modules need to have their fitting requirements cut down drastically
ACE OF JOKERS AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 64	Posted - 2013.11.18 00:58:00 - [27] - Quote Ignoble Son wrote: They alow people to survive engaugments longer than they would if they were using something else in there high slots, oh I don't know, like damage mods for instance. I'm all for HP debuffs like the damage mod but I think that high slot HP buffs are a bunch of bull**. Shield extenders should most definitely be removed from the game, or at the very least nerfed into the ground. TRoll post is bad. Anti-like for you sir.**
Templar 10 Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 22	Posted - 2013.11.18 01:12:00 - [28] - Quote i dont understand if this is a troll or not lol complex shield extender 66hp complex armor plate 116+hp might be wrong with the numbers but lol nerf the extender why not nerf the plate ( oh thats right plates give movement debuffs ) sounds like it is just fine the way it is lol ps you really suck at trolling if this is a troll but ima give u a -1 for effort get creative scrub
axis alpha Red Star. EoN. 79	Posted - 2013.11.18 01:20:00 - [29] - Quote I tank shields... you live by it and die by it... Sooooo no The best part of waking up, is whiskey in my cuuuuup!
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 1514	Posted - 2013.11.18 01:23:00 - [30] - Quote Yes, let's just remove Shield Extenders, and while we're at it, remove all other mods and mod slots too ö/\ö :D



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