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Zekain K Expert Intervention Caldari State 485	Posted - 2013.11.17 03:24:00 - [1] - Quote I run a mini avd (now a proto) light frame for lulz every so often. I ran with it in 4 games of skirmish. In 3 of them i was able to do fairly well. The one match I didn't do too well because of it being a stacked proto stomp..... :/ The best score I had was 26/4. My fit is as follows. 2X complex shield extenders. 1X basic armor plate 1X basic armor repair 1X Exile 1X locust grenade 1X nano hive. The idea of this fit is to run in, and deal hit and run attacks at close range. Surprise enemies, flank them, and to generally be suicidal aggressive. Never stop moving, strafe like crazy. When fighting at a distance. ADS, and strafe. Aim for the enemies head, and only stay out of cover for short periods of time. And jump to get behind cover, don't run for it. I really want the caldari scout now. Dedicated Scouts, quit complaining.
DeadlyAztec11 Gallente Federation 2601	Posted - 2013.11.17 03:27:00 - [2] - Quote lol Your pulling an Aztec; telling a group of people they are doing it wrong. Brings new back, good times, good times... Madness is the emergency exit. You can just step outside, and close the door on all those dreadful things that happened.
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic Top Men. 290	Posted - 2013.11.17 03:30:00 - [3] - Quote So you give anecdotal evidence and now feel like everyone who runs scouts is wrong? I want you to go into PC with a scout. I want you to stack a medium frame and follow the exact same advice you give. Let us know your results!
calvin b Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 963	Posted - 2013.11.17 03:52:00 - [4] - Quote I run a speed tanked Scout as one of my fits and I score very well. Its not that anyone is doing it wrong, its other factors. Just run the suit on how you built it and just let things be. Do not eat the yellow snow
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2216	Posted - 2013.11.17 03:54:00 - [5] - Quote Ok not touching this one...... Sinboto - The True Blood Minja. Forum Warrior level 2 A grunt of STB
Protocake JR Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 982	Posted - 2013.11.17 04:04:00 - [6] - Quote Zekain K wrote: I run a mini avd (now a proto) light frame for lulz every so often. I ran with it in 4 games of skirmish. In 3 of them i was able to do fairly well. The one match I didn't do too well because of it being a stacked proto stomp..... :/ The best score I had was 26/4. My fit is as follows. 2X complex shield extenders. 1X basic armor plate 1X basic armor repair 1X Exile 1X locust grenade 1X nano hive. The idea of this fit is to run in, and deal hit and run attacks at close range. Surprise enemies, flank them, and to generally be suicidal aggressive. Never stop moving, strafe like crazy. When fighting at a distance. ADS, and strafe. Aim for the enemies head, and only stay out of cover for short periods of time. And jump to get behind cover, don't run for it. I really want the caldari scout now. Dedicated Scouts, quit complaining. Yep, i've done the same thing. I basically turned my light frame suit into a medium-frame assault suit, except I get to take advantage of the smaller hitbox and faster speed (than my amarr assault). It's pretty fun, except for the anemic CPU/PG and reletively low speed for a "fast" suit. @ Galvan Nized Scouts are very deadly in PC. Some of the top slayers in PC are scouts. People, you need to realize that if you're bad at shooting, then you are bad at shooting and nothing can help you except practice and OP weapons. Just because you can't do it, doesn't mean someone else can't.
ACE OF JOKERS AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 51	Posted - 2013.11.17 04:05:00 - [7] - Quote Zekain K wrote: I run a mini avd (now a proto) light frame for lulz every so often. I ran with it in 4 games of skirmish. In 3 of them i was able to do fairly well. The one match I didn't do too well because of it being a stacked proto stomp..... :/ The best score I had was 26/4. My fit is as follows. 2X complex shield extenders. 1X basic armor plate 1X basic armor repair 1X Exile 1X locust grenade 1X nano hive. The idea of this fit is to run in, and deal hit and run attacks at close range. Surprise enemies, flank them, and to generally be suicidal aggressive. Never stop moving, strafe like crazy. When fighting at a distance. ADS, and strafe. Aim for the enemies head, and only stay out of cover for short periods of time. And jump to get behind cover, don't run for it. I really want the caldari scout now. Dedicated Scouts, quit complaining. Scouts are UP as f still: Check this out: Mk.0 scout GÖª3x Complex shield Ext GÖªComplex reactive plates GÖªBasic armor plates GÖªIshikune assault SMG (Main) GÖªToxin AR (Sidearm XD) GÖªLocus grenade GÖªCompact nanohive 590 Total EHP, 30 scan profile,8.08 speed I 've gotten games 35(or more) 5 (Or less) With this scout. BUT, ITS VERY VERYVERY, Map dependant. If i have cover i can play.With no cover ANYTHING will drop me in 1 second. Hit detection is way too powerful so much than a Scout running at 10.4 Speed cannot even dodge a SINGLE AR bullet.... And each time i die i loose delicious 120k.... Scouts need a buff.
LUGMOS YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE 106	Posted - 2013.11.17 04:07:00 - [8] - Quote Zekain wrote: The one match I didn't do too well because of it being a stacked proto stomp Isnt this most matches... You must have gotten Lol nubs. And the fact you run an exile shows that you are an assault, not a real scout. The biggest threat to my scout is everything. My scout is the biggest threat to everything.
VAHZZ The dyst0pian Corporation 228	Posted - 2013.11.17 04:11:00 - [9] - Quote You are not a dedicated scout and run the Scout fit every so often. I have an Assault alt that i run every so often but i'm not a dedicated Assault user - stop b-tching about people b-tching..it only stirs things up - and aggravates people. The only good troll is a funny troll and you aren't funny. and also...that is not a Scout fit what so ever...it is putrid The merc with a mouth - beware of random bouts of insanity! ~ Proud Sniper
Protocake JR Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 982	Posted - 2013.11.17 04:12:00 - [10] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: Zekain wrote: The one match I didn't do too well because of it being a stacked proto stomp Isnt this most matches... You must have gotten Lol nubs. And the fact you run an exile shows that you are an assault, not a real scout. WTF is a real scout?

LUGMOS YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE 106	Posted - 2013.11.17 04:18:00 - [11] - Quote To Protocake and OP... A real scout does not have a nanohive in its equipment slot, they would have an active scanner or possibly REs. A real scout doesnt dual tank, they use modules to enhance precision and scan range, or speed and stamina. Most scouts dont use ARs, because they look for an ACTUALLY challenging weapon to use, ie PLC, shotty, ScP, or NKs. The biggest threat to my scout is everything. My scout is the biggest threat to everything.
VAHZZ The dyst0pian Corporation 231	Posted - 2013.11.17 04:20:00 - [12] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: To Protocake and OP... A real scout does not have a nanohive in its equipment slot, they would have an active scanner or possibly REs. A real scout doesnt dual tank, they use modules to enhance precision and scan range, or speed and stamina. Most scouts dont use ARs, because they look for an ACTUALLY challenging weapon to use, ie PLC, shotty, ScP, or NKs. Don't forget the Sniper The merc with a mouth - beware of random bouts of insanity! ~ Proud Sniper
knight of 6 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 625	Posted - 2013.11.17 04:23:00 - [13] - Quote Zekain K wrote: I run a mini avd (now a proto) light frame for lulz every so often. I ran with it in 4 games of skirmish. In 3 of them i was able to do fairly well. The one match I didn't do too well because of it being a stacked proto stomp..... :/ The best score I had was 26/4. My fit is as follows. 2X complex shield extenders. 1X basic armor plate 1X basic armor repair 1X Exile 1X locust grenade 1X nano hive. The idea of this fit is to run in, and deal hit and run attacks at close range. Surprise enemies, flank them, and to generally be suicidal aggressive. Never stop moving, strafe like crazy. When fighting at a distance. ADS, and strafe. Aim for the enemies head, and only stay out of cover for short periods of time. And jump to get behind cover, don't run for it. I really want the caldari scout now. Dedicated Scouts, quit complaining. thats cute, tourist. you ran 4 games do you feel four games is sufficient to judge a class? what did the scout suit do for you? clearly it didn't speed about the battlefield, it's plated and there aren't any biotics. it didn't sneek about either it's mini and un-damped. so in essence you have an mlt med frame... congrats? i'm gonna be straight with you a light frame is nothing but a hinderence anything a light frame can do a med does better. that is why we complain not because we can't get kills. scary scout is scary, but also useless. "God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon Ko6, scout, tanker. CLOSED BETA VET
Cosgar ParagonX 7815	Posted - 2013.11.17 04:23:00 - [14] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: To Protocake and OP... A real scout does not have a nanohive in its equipment slot, they would have an active scanner or possibly REs. A real scout doesnt dual tank, they use modules to enhance precision and scan range, or speed and stamina. Most scouts dont use ARs, because they look for an ACTUALLY challenging weapon to use, ie PLC, shotty, ScP, or NKs. That's a specific playstyle. Not one that should define a game mechanic. Dust is supposed to have a sandbox style character customization. Heavy snipers, shotgun assaults and all that. There's no wrong way to play a scout, (or any class) just what makes people comfortable. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Protocake JR Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 982	Posted - 2013.11.17 04:26:00 - [15] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: To Protocake and OP... A real scout does not have a nanohive in its equipment slot, they would have an active scanner or possibly REs. A real scout doesnt dual tank, they use modules to enhance precision and scan range, or speed and stamina. Most scouts dont use ARs, because they look for an ACTUALLY challenging weapon to use, ie PLC, shotty, ScP, or NKs. Oooookkaay. Let me rephrase the question. WTF is a real scout supposed to do? WHAT is it's purpose on the battlefield, and HOW does it go about fulfilling that purpose?
hackerzilla Defenders of the Helghast Dream 473	Posted - 2013.11.17 04:26:00 - [16] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: To Protocake and OP... A real scout does not have a nanohive in its equipment slot, they would have an active scanner or possibly REs. A real scout doesnt dual tank, they use modules to enhance precision and scan range, or speed and stamina. Most scouts dont use ARs, because they look for an ACTUALLY challenging weapon to use, ie PLC, shotty, ScP, or NKs. +1 to that, except for the dual tanking thing, and nanohives, some weapons (scrambler pistol, plasma cannon, flaylock etc.) are niche, scout type weapons but all rely on a nanohive, because of their ** ammo capacity. #Scout4life -Minmatar Scout- -Minmatar Logistics- -Mass Driver and Sniper Rifle Expert-**
LUGMOS YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE 109	Posted - 2013.11.17 04:27:00 - [17] - Quote Yes yes, i understand. But i was not keen on how he was saying that dedicated souts are doing it wrong. I doubt the fact that he actually has skilled into scouts. The biggest threat to my scout is everything. My scout is the biggest threat to everything.
Assert Dominance Ahrendee's Wafflehouse 458	Posted - 2013.11.17 04:27:00 - [18] - Quote So you go lolpub get a good score and come here and tell us well experienced scouts were doing it wrong... Play this game at the highest level of competition in the game and tell me all about how you played smart, flanked the enemy, etc etc... I wanna know all about it. I eat blue waffles when i proto stomp.
knight of 6 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 625	Posted - 2013.11.17 04:28:00 - [19] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: To Protocake and OP... A real scout does not have a nanohive in its equipment slot, they would have an active scanner or possibly REs. A real scout doesnt dual tank, they use modules to enhance precision and scan range, or speed and stamina. Most scouts dont use ARs, because they look for an ACTUALLY challenging weapon to use, ie PLC, shotty, ScP, or NKs. most scout used to run ARs because hit detection was bad. "God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon Ko6, scout, tanker. CLOSED BETA VET
VAHZZ The dyst0pian Corporation 231	Posted - 2013.11.17 04:28:00 - [20] - Quote Protocake JR wrote: LUGMOS wrote: To Protocake and OP... A real scout does not have a nanohive in its equipment slot, they would have an active scanner or possibly REs. A real scout doesnt dual tank, they use modules to enhance precision and scan range, or speed and stamina. Most scouts dont use ARs, because they look for an ACTUALLY challenging weapon to use, ie PLC, shotty, ScP, or NKs. Oooookkaay. Let me rephrase the question. WTF is a real scout supposed to do? WHAT is it's purpose on the battlefield, and HOW does it go about fulfilling that purpose? A scout is sneaky..pure stealth The merc with a mouth - beware of random bouts of insanity! ~ Proud Sniper

Llast 326 An Arkhos 484	Posted - 2013.11.17 04:30:00 - [21] - Quote Zekain K wrote: I run a mini avd (now a proto) light frame for lulz every so often. I ran with it in 4 games of skirmish. In 3 of them i was able to do fairly well. The one match I didn't do too well because of it being a stacked proto stomp..... :/ The best score I had was 26/4. My fit is as follows. 2X complex shield extenders. 1X basic armor plate 1X basic armor repair 1X Exile 1X locust grenade 1X nano hive. The idea of this fit is to run in, and deal hit and run attacks at close range. Surprise enemies, flank them, and to generally be suicidal aggressive. Never stop moving, strafe like crazy. When fighting at a distance. ADS, and strafe. Aim for the enemies head, and only stay out of cover for short periods of time. And jump to get behind cover, don't run for it. I really want the caldari scout now. Dedicated Scouts, quit complaining. See you out there I am apparently not the only fool
LUGMOS YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE 112	Posted - 2013.11.17 04:34:00 - [22] - Quote @ Protocake A scouts role is to SCOUT (0_0). This means to survey the enemy, by calling out how many, what type they are, and what not. They are supposed to be skilled in using active and passive scanning to seek oit enemy intel. Scouts also do infiltration, by rushing in to an objective and getting out. They can also flank and take out targets. Scout snipers are particularly effective at scouting, but a scout with a scanner is also very effective. This is a legitamate scout, but as Cosgar pointed out, it is a sandbox out there. The biggest threat to my scout is everything. My scout is the biggest threat to everything.
Rusty Shallows 495	Posted - 2013.11.17 04:44:00 - [23] - Quote Original Poster you are doing it wrong. "Complaining," is a soft insulting term. In this age of virtual reality and theme based news outlets people reach for stronger terminology. Clearly degrade the dissenters with words like, "whiners" or "QQers." Try thinking more like a lobbyist or campaign manager. By the way. I disagree. Light Frames are worse than Heavy Frames. At least my Dren Sentinel can take a hit at range. My Scout M-I Alt with max innate buffer skills loses 2/3rds of his life jumping from a low structure where the inertial dampeners won't kick in. When the game map features are almost as dangerous as the enemy fire then something is wrong. +1 for offering advice. "She may not be Miss Right but she'll do right now," Thank you SR-71
LUGMOS YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE 113	Posted - 2013.11.17 04:48:00 - [24] - Quote God i hate the fall damage on scouts. They are light frames, they should take less fall damage. The biggest threat to my scout is everything. My scout is the biggest threat to everything.
Meeko Fent Commando Perkone Caldari State 1550	Posted - 2013.11.17 04:51:00 - [25] - Quote Scouts shouldn't HAVE to brick tank to preform their role. However, due to lolScanners which damn near can't be beat unless you pile on the profile skills and mods make scouts unable to well, scout stealthily. For the State! For Caldari FW join Caldari Hierarchy Replication Warrior
VAHZZ The dyst0pian Corporation 231	Posted - 2013.11.17 04:52:00 - [26] - Quote That damn fall damage is why i never stick to building tops The merc with a mouth - beware of random bouts of insanity! ~ Proud Sniper
Zekain K Expert Intervention Caldari State 486	Posted - 2013.11.17 04:53:00 - [27] - Quote Lots of rustled jimmies in here.
Ignoble Son 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 368	Posted - 2013.11.17 04:58:00 - [28] - Quote I went 16/0 in an OMS earlyer today with he following setup on a Gal scout, using stick and move tactics. Comp shield extender Duvall assault rifle Toxin SMG Comp Ferroscale plate Basic plate Comp ken cat Comp repairer It was pretty fun. {:)}{3GÇó>
LUGMOS YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE 115	Posted - 2013.11.17 05:00:00 - [29] - Quote Would you like to enlighten us dedicated scouts further with more on how to do it right, zekain? The biggest threat to my scout is everything. My scout is the biggest threat to everything.
DEZKA DIABLO Unkn0wn Killers 44	Posted - 2013.11.17 05:00:00 - [30] - Quote Zekain K wrote: I run a mini avd (now a proto) light frame for lulz every so often. I ran with it in 4 games of skirmish. In 3 of them i was able to do fairly well. The one match I didn't do too well because of it being a stacked proto stomp..... :/ The best score I had was 26/4. My fit is as follows. 2X complex shield extenders. 1X basic armor plate 1X basic armor repair 1X Exile 1X locust grenade 1X nano hive. The idea of this fit is to run in, and deal hit and run attacks at close range. Surprise enemies, flank them, and to generally be suicidal aggressive. Never stop moving, strafe like crazy. When fighting at a distance. ADS, and strafe. Aim for the enemies head, and only stay out of cover for short periods of time. And jump to get behind cover, don't run for it. I really want the caldari scout now. Dedicated Scouts, quit complaining. BBBBAAAAAAHHHAAAAA DUDE YOU KILL ME HAHAHA! Dude runs assault rifle an basically is telling shotgun an knife scouts your doing it wrong LULZZZZ! Welcome to AR514 lol, run it with biotic mods an a MAN WEAPON, let's us know how well you do lol. Went 15/0 hardly trying last nigh with a toxin bpo just to see how easy the AR is, and it's child mode, I don't even have points in it an I dropped anyone I shot at, WITHOUT PROFICIENCY DAMAGE OR DAMAGE MODS! Go back to where you came from scrub! LOL telling us were doing it wrong lol no assault rifle lol, also probably beating all the ten year olds playing before school lol get outta here, U TOO FUNNY!



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