DUST Search - The Tactical Guide to Uplink Strategy

Terminus Dwyryd wrote:

I am new to uplink deployment but there is one thing which does really annoy me.

If one plans to lay an uplink which is more in a support or in a flanking position away from the front line and is in a spot of relative calm then please, please take a few seconds to look at the large map to see if there are other uplinks in the same spot.

It really riles me when I plan my next drop and I check my current uplinks (which I do every fre minutes) to find them in a pile of half a doxen uplinks. Not only does it make it hard to plan what to do next because in that mass of blurry blue light it's impossible to work out if my link has gone or not but it makes the shape of the battlefield warped. Having a pile of uplinks in the same corner means that there's only one entry in the battle area but the battle is brought to the links and there's no other way in and the things are camped.

Just don't run around a corner and think that this is a nice spot where ther's no firing going on so it would be good for an uplink please check that there aren't more five paces ahead. Clumpng uplinks brings the batte to you and it gives the opposition the ability to defend easier than if the uplinks were depoluyed in a manner which gives you the upper hand.

In short, look at the bloody map.

- Terminus

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John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 390	Posted - 2013.11.17 00:32:00 - [1] - Quote A Tactical Guide to Uplink Strategy (or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Being a Spam Artist) Note: this is a work in progress Foreword: My intent is not to create a "WP Farmer's almanac" (maybe I should have used that for the title, lol) for uplink spamming. This guide is designed as a sort of supplement to the excellent Logi code threadlink here, in order to encourage and facilitate the "working as intendedGäó"use of uplinks. Introduction Contrary to popular belief, there is strategy to be found in the correct use of this much-maligned piece of equipment. Just to get the defnitions straight, strategy refers to the overarching goal (or goals) of the military force in question. This is not to be confused with tactics, which are the means by which that goal is achieved. For example, the strategic goal of D-day was to establish a foothold in continental Europe in order to open a second, western front. The tactics employed (massively oversimplifying) were a combined airdrop and amphibious landing at multiple points to seal off a large section of coastline. So, back to uplink strategery. Rather than merely "reinforcing" as listed in the many R's of the logi code, I like to think of what I do as more of a "Tactical logistics" style of play. With the proper tactics, we can place uplinks in such a way as to shape the battlefield. Our strategy is to effectively make the battlefield as "small" as possible for our forces, allowing not only for reinforcement of the positions/battle lines we already have, but to create potential new ones to outflank the enemy as well. At some point dropships will presumably take on more and more of this role (soonGäó), but for now (1.6) they are still flying coffins if a good forge gunner is around, and uplinks are the most effective way to shrink the battlefield. Important! Before even starting out, you will need to spend some SP, as basically everything in this guide will be hard to do if you don't have the drop uplink deployment skill to at least level 3, and level 4 is where you really start to open up the possibilities. To keep this from being an insane wall of text, I'll break it up into a few parts. In part one we will start with the basics: - How uplinks work - What not to do with uplinks - What types of uplinks there are and how they differ - How many uplinks can I use at one time? - How do I keep track of them? Part two will briefly discuss some basic fitting suggestions, and part 3 will cover tactics (what this thread is actually about!), using the uplinks to their maximum potential. Templar'd for her pleasure Amarr victor!
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 390	Posted - 2013.11.17 00:32:00 - [2] - Quote Part 2 Templar'd for her pleasure Amarr victor!
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 390	Posted - 2013.11.17 00:33:00 - [3] - Quote Reserved Templar'd for her pleasure Amarr victor!
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 390	Posted - 2013.11.17 00:34:00 - [4] - Quote Reserved Templar'd for her pleasure Amarr victor!
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 390	Posted - 2013.11.17 00:34:00 - [5] - Quote Reserved Templar'd for her pleasure Amarr victor!
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 390	Posted - 2013.11.17 00:41:00 - [6] - Quote Reserved Templar'd for her pleasure Amarr victor!
Blake Kingston Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 144	Posted - 2013.11.17 02:43:00 - [7] - Quote You should mention facing. The direction someone faces when they spawn is the same direction you faced when you threw the droplink out. Thus running up to a wall and throwing one out will lead to people spawning, facing a blank wall. This leads to precious seconds wasted as they try to regain their orientation. So don't do it. Simply aim yourself in the direction you will go after you have layed down the drop link. Generally that's a useful direction. Or plan for what is a useful direction - looking at the nearest objective, for example, helps when someone spawns in to stop a hack. Facing in some random direction wont help.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 391	Posted - 2013.11.17 04:41:00 - [8] - Quote Thanks for the suggestion. I often forget that functionality myself to be perfectly honest. I'll be sure to mention it in part 3. Templar'd for her pleasure Amarr victor!
Awry Barux Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 356	Posted - 2013.11.17 05:13:00 - [9] - Quote This is all excellent advice, I do the vast majority of these things already but it's a great guide. +1
IceShifter Childhaspawn DUST University Ivy League 395	Posted - 2013.11.17 18:58:00 - [10] - Quote Think you should title this a Comprehensive guide as you delve beyond the links themselves and into fittings.

John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 409	Posted - 2013.11.17 20:55:00 - [11] - Quote IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote: Think you should title this a Comprehensive guide as you delve beyond the links themselves and into fittings. LOL, I guess I could. Didn't plan on being this specific originally. But, as things I write often do, it got away from me a little bit and took on a life of its own. Some of part 3 should be ready by tomorrow, but I think the finished product may have to wait until my return flight... "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor!
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 424	Posted - 2013.11.20 03:15:00 - [12] - Quote Updated "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor!
Sky Kage Clones Of The Damned 89	Posted - 2013.11.20 05:21:00 - [13] - Quote damn.. you were busy writing. good guide though, really covers just about everything. Now if ccp would just get rid of all the map clutter in game... I die alot AND have fun... Who knew? FIX MATCHMAKING CCP!
IceShifter Childhaspawn DUST University Ivy League 431	Posted - 2013.11.22 15:17:00 - [14] - Quote Just a thought, but I generally consider the flux variants battle spawns and the quantum/ standard variants entry spawns. The flux are more useful in the heat of battle, granted placing them as such doesn't allow them to survive very long, but your team returns to the field faster. The quantum have a bonus to the number of spawns they may sustain, so I figured that they were designed with long term deployment in mind. Deploying these 120m or more (Not ridiculously so) from an area of interest allows the team to reform and approach tactfully. So theres my 0.02 isk flux are best deployed near an engagement, while the standard and quantum variants are best used as long distant reforming points. GûæGûæGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûê ]GûäGûäGûäGûäGûäGûäGûä - Just a bit further... IlGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûê] ..GùÑGèÖGû¦GèÖGùñ......GùÑGèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGùñ xxx xxx xxx
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 441	Posted - 2013.11.23 05:05:00 - [15] - Quote IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote: Just a thought, but I generally consider the flux variants battle spawns and the quantum/ standard variants entry spawns. The flux are more useful in the heat of battle, granted placing them as such doesn't allow them to survive very long, but your team returns to the field faster. The quantum have a bonus to the number of spawns they may sustain, so I figured that they were designed with long term deployment in mind. Deploying these 120m or more (Not ridiculously so) from an area of interest allows the team to reform and approach tactfully. So theres my 0.02 isk flux are best deployed near an engagement, while the standard and quantum variants are best used as long distant reforming points. Yeah, I'm sure most of us do it that way. I'm putting it into part 3 eventually(soon-¥Gäó), but it makes sense to mention it earlier, so I made the change to part 1. Keep the good feedback coming! "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor!
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 754	Posted - 2013.12.20 19:28:00 - [16] - Quote Shameless bump. I swear I'll have this done by Xmas, I was waiting to see if there were any notable changes in 1.7/1.8 but the answer is no/who knows when we'll find out (still hoping for an amarr scout in 1.8!) so I guess I'll just finish and make changes later. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor!
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 1940	Posted - 2013.12.20 20:01:00 - [17] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Shameless bump. I swear I'll have this done by Xmas, I was waiting to see if there were any notable changes in 1.7/1.8 but the answer is no/who knows when we'll find out (still hoping for an amarr scout in 1.8!) so I guess I'll just finish and make changes later. The more guides I write, the more work I have to do every time a new patch drops. Welcome to the AuthorGÇÖs club. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else, there is the Learning Coalition.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 1405	Posted - 2013.12.27 15:54:00 - [18] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: Shameless bump. I swear I'll have this done by Xmas, I was waiting to see if there were any notable changes in 1.7/1.8 but the answer is no/who knows when we'll find out (still hoping for an amarr scout in 1.8!) so I guess I'll just finish and make changes later. The more guides I write, the more work I have to do every time a new patch drops. Welcome to the AuthorGÇÖs club. Tell me about it. I like to write, gotta do something with that minor in literature, but man this is time consuming with the formatting and character limits and etc etc. Anyway, made some minor edits and reformats to make room for the rest of part 3. On track to finish it before 2014. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor!
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 1453	Posted - 2013.12.31 18:58:00 - [19] - Quote Whew! Finally done for now. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor!
Zion Shad Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2070	Posted - 2014.01.04 01:46:00 - [20] - Quote Congratulations John! You have been selected as a Nominee for the Dust 514 Wall of Fame. You should take the time to take a look. Thank you for your community work and congratz again. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=133460&find=unread Shad Co-Owner of Multiplexgaming.com Co-Host of PODSIDE on iTunes

John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 1626	Posted - 2014.01.10 19:02:00 - [21] - Quote Thanks for the nomination. Time to practice my "I'm disappointed but Fox deserved to win" face and clap for the TV cameras! Also, made a few minor edits to the guide. Still waiting on 1.8 and how they plan to work the Amarr logi bonus. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor! Forum Warrior lv.1
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 1626	Posted - 2014.01.20 18:31:00 - [22] - Quote Bump. Still waiting on some info for 1.8 before updating again. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor! Forum Warrior lv.1
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 1764	Posted - 2014.01.29 16:42:00 - [23] - Quote Bump. Time to use that 3x SP for an Amarr logi suit if you want to use uplinks in 1.8. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.1 Amarr victor!
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 1915	Posted - 2014.02.09 20:00:00 - [24] - Quote Bump. Will need to reformat extensively due to space limitations, might restart that prior to 1.8 depending on how long it takes for it to drop. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.1 Amarr victor!
Terminus Dwyryd Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 16	Posted - 2014.02.11 09:15:00 - [25] - Quote I am new to uplink deployment but there is one thing which does really annoy me. If one plans to lay an uplink which is more in a support or in a flanking position away from the front line and is in a spot of relative calm then please, please take a few seconds to look at the large map to see if there are other uplinks in the same spot. It really riles me when I plan my next drop and I check my current uplinks (which I do every fre minutes) to find them in a pile of half a doxen uplinks. Not only does it make it hard to plan what to do next because in that mass of blurry blue light it's impossible to work out if my link has gone or not but it makes the shape of the battlefield warped. Having a pile of uplinks in the same corner means that there's only one entry in the battle area but the battle is brought to the links and there's no other way in and the things are camped. Just don't run around a corner and think that this is a nice spot where ther's no firing going on so it would be good for an uplink please check that there aren't more five paces ahead. Clumpng uplinks brings the batte to you and it gives the opposition the ability to defend easier than if the uplinks were depoluyed in a manner which gives you the upper hand. In short, look at the bloody map. - Terminus Pam: "I wonder what my name means in Welsh" Nessa: "Why?"
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2112	Posted - 2014.02.24 15:21:00 - [26] - Quote Terminus Dwyryd wrote: I am new to uplink deployment but there is one thing which does really annoy me. If one plans to lay an uplink which is more in a support or in a flanking position away from the front line and is in a spot of relative calm then please, please take a few seconds to look at the large map to see if there are other uplinks in the same spot. It really riles me when I plan my next drop and I check my current uplinks (which I do every fre minutes) to find them in a pile of half a doxen uplinks. Not only does it make it hard to plan what to do next because in that mass of blurry blue light it's impossible to work out if my link has gone or not but it makes the shape of the battlefield warped. Having a pile of uplinks in the same corner means that there's only one entry in the battle area but the battle is brought to the links and there's no other way in and the things are camped. Just don't run around a corner and think that this is a nice spot where ther's no firing going on so it would be good for an uplink please check that there aren't more five paces ahead. Clumpng uplinks brings the batte to you and it gives the opposition the ability to defend easier than if the uplinks were depoluyed in a manner which gives you the upper hand. In short, look at the bloody map. - Terminus ~~Fire~~ spam bad! arrr.... "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2253	Posted - 2014.03.09 19:36:00 - [27] - Quote Bump. That is all. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
lok rark StealthSquad 33	Posted - 2014.03.24 03:14:00 - [28] - Quote cough cough
Thrydwulf Khodan 75	Posted - 2014.03.26 12:06:00 - [29] - Quote Currently (1 day after 1.8) the Amarr bonus does not appear to apply if you drop the link and swap out suits, or if you are dead and have to spawn back in.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2510	Posted - 2014.03.26 13:39:00 - [30] - Quote Thrydwulf Khodan wrote: Currently (1 day after 1.8) the Amarr bonus does not appear to apply if you drop the link and swap out suits, or if you are dead and have to spawn back in. Interesting. I haven't been able to play yet, will have to do some testing and also see if I can get infos from CCP. Seems strange to me they would program it that way. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!



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