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Derrith Erador
Pradox One Proficiency V.
426
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Posted - 2013.11.16 21:49:00 -
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Linqded wrote:Derrith Erador wrote:Not going to lie, the above posts took too long to read, so I didn't. lol if that was to long to read may I suggest never cooking a frozen dinner in a microwave.
A frozen DINNER!!! Sota better hold me back.
I love kittens with mittens
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SoTarian PoParrazi
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
212
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Posted - 2013.11.16 21:54:00 -
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Linqded wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:The issue of proto stomping is toughy. I grinded hard to get my gear and enjoy it - but I understand the destruction to others enjoyments it bring. As such - since Open Beta first dropped, I have never used a proto suit in pubs. I also jump into pub squads for those single games and help guide and teach and inspire people to push forward to enjoy the game as I have.
But this is a bumpy road to do - it's not something the community can see. All they notice is when I group with friends who are all vets like me - we destroy all. But I keep those squads just for FW for the Amarr side - especially since they're struggling so hard currently. (sometimes ambush since most my friends favor the quick games :( )
And then there's my personal issue with the HMG - I've tried to become a legend with it - but the stats won't allow it. So I've jumped from HMG to the only Amarr weapon *I'm an amarr loyalist* I knew of that's any good - ScR. And it's given me a bad outlook of FOTM, rather then me just breaking free of a poorly designed gun. I still think AR is a better weapon, but that's not important.
But even that is a poor excuse for myself since I run around in an LLAV - but you have to remember, 80% of my games I am solo - by myself - struggling. LLAV was my counter to my suits weaknesses *heavy*. Often times if there's no squad on the other side I'll just drive around just trying to run people over - never getting out. But even then I get hatemail.
I'm in a lose - lose situation in the communities eyes.
But despite all that - It's my deepest wish to help this game. I had 400mil ISK at one point a month ago - I've given away nearly 300mil ISK to pubs and players low in ISK for free. I am now down to nearly 200mil even with me PCing constantly and raking in 10mil a game contracts.
Honestly - this is just a rant in my defense - I have no real defense for my actions in game. I can only hope people who read my posts come to understand I am not a bad guy - want to help - will help anyone, even if I hate you. This games success and growth means more then petty disputes. But I feel stuck between a rock and a hard place.
If I could bow down infront of everyone and apologize, I would, and I would hope CCP would be behind me when I do so I could secretly throw them the middle fingers - because it's there bad mechanics forcing me to play the way I do. I cant agree with you more in your comments about ccp. it is ultimately their responsibility. I will take you at face value on your charitable efforts since I have not personally seen this. if you wouldn't mind, seeing that you do seem to have the community at heart, please explain to me then why you and your corp (if you can say they feel the same as you about this game) have shown so much hostility to a training corp I will leave unnamed who is doing nothing but trying to help new players? because right now as I see it you speak of caring for a community yet you and yours have attempted to crush one of the biggest community builders in this game. further more have you ever reached out to this community building corp to offer your experience to its new players? I hope you can provide some insight into this for me, because I want to believe you are a valued member of the community instead of an instigator in its demise. The Imperfects value individuals and there ability to back up there words. They do not want to see this game go to **** anymore then the rest of you. However, they're trolls, worse then I. They tend to let petty disputes and comments derail them from there initial attempts to bring something to this game and have become very bitter towards the community.
It's a shame. But they enjoy the villain role they've taken up - originally stating that if they community rose up against them it would inspire people to get more skilled.
But that got derailed as well by CCP mechanics - they're a frustrated lot when it comes to Dust. I stayed with them because I wanted to be known as a good player who could play with the best and the best wanted to play with. But by doing so I became isolated from much of the community - which i work on repairing.
Imps were not bad guys - they created events and RP's for people to enjoy rather then just crushing and laughing. Take the Dust Uni planet at start of PC for example - they declared intent to crush it and it turned into several threadnaughts of everyone tuning in to enjoy the meta involved. But did they crush Dust Uni? No - they never fought them more then once. SI are the ones who crushed Dust Uni and there dreams. What did the Imps do? They challenged the corps who called themselves the best and sold districts to corps who wouldn't get into PC on there own and set up protection plans for them, creating deals with EoN to leave these guys alone.
And as for me helping training corps - I have. I've been asked to train heavies and show them the ropes almost monthly - and I do so with pride. No heavy should feel insecure trying to come to talk to me asking for advice on anything. I will always help.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ - Let's make a contract!
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ER-Bullitt
592
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:04:00 -
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Yerp... put troll hats down and Sota answered my questions straight up, gave some good advice too. All done on the forums tho.. still never seen that fat bastard in game.
Side note.. best advice you can give a heavy right now.. spec into something else !
LOLz
To the OP, good luck with this endeavor. you will need it. |
CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm.
235
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:13:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Umm good luck I have a lot of friends in AE doubt I'd ring against them This...
CEO
Invictus Maneo~ "I remain unvanquished"
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Linqded
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:21:00 -
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Linqded wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:
I cant agree with you more in your comments about ccp. it is ultimately their responsibility.
I will take you at face value on your charitable efforts since I have not personally seen this.
if you wouldn't mind, seeing that you do seem to have the community at heart, please explain to me then why you and your corp (if you can say they feel the same as you about this game) have shown so much hostility to a training corp I will leave unnamed who is doing nothing but trying to help new players?
because right now as I see it you speak of caring for a community yet you and yours have attempted to crush one of the biggest community builders in this game.
further more have you ever reached out to this community building corp to offer your experience to its new players?
I hope you can provide some insight into this for me, because I want to believe you are a valued member of the community instead of an instigator in its demise.
The Imperfects value individuals and there ability to back up there words. They do not want to see this game go to **** anymore then the rest of you. However, they're trolls, worse then I. They tend to let petty disputes and comments derail them from there initial attempts to bring something to this game and have become very bitter towards the community. It's a shame. But they enjoy the villain role they've taken up - originally stating that if they community rose up against them it would inspire people to get more skilled. But that got derailed as well by CCP mechanics - they're a frustrated lot when it comes to Dust. I stayed with them because I wanted to be known as a good player who could play with the best and the best wanted to play with. But by doing so I became isolated from much of the community - which i work on repairing. Imps were not bad guys - they created events and RP's for people to enjoy rather then just crushing and laughing. Take the Dust Uni planet at start of PC for example - they declared intent to crush it and it turned into several threadnaughts of everyone tuning in to enjoy the meta involved. But did they crush Dust Uni? No - they never fought them more then once. SI are the ones who crushed Dust Uni and there dreams. What did the Imps do? They challenged the corps who called themselves the best and sold districts to corps who wouldn't get into PC on there own and set up protection plans for them, creating deals with EoN to leave these guys alone. And as for me helping training corps - I have. I've been asked to train heavies and show them the ropes almost monthly - and I do so with pride. No heavy should feel insecure trying to come to talk to me asking for advice on anything. I will always help.
I appreciate you taking the time to discuss this with me.
I personally understand how frustrating this game can get.
I also value the villain role in new eden.
I only hope they can realize that when they started this game it was a very different game and while encouraging the community to improve their skill and rising against them is a great endeavor, dust in its present state has not the facilities or infrastructure to meet this challenge nor the player base.
as we have already agreed CCP must do their part to ensure a thriving community but we must still do ours.
there simply isn't a good guy out their to challenge your bad guy.
we all want the same thing here I think, can I implore you and those like you to find a more productive way to achieve the goals you all seem to have.
because right now its just crushing the community.
may I suggest finding a way to build the community base without the blue wars and elitisism ( probably not a real word but you know what I mean)?
this never ending recycling of the same top players in different corps stamping out the little guys because they can isn't helping anyone but the few on the stomping side.
is there not a better way to have fun here?
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Linqded
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:24:00 -
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ER-Bullitt wrote:Yerp... put troll hats down and Sota answered my questions straight up, gave some good advice too. All done on the forums tho.. still never seen that fat bastard in game.
Side note.. best advice you can give a heavy right now.. spec into something else !
LOLz
To the OP, good luck with this endeavor. you will need it.
I only want to see the game get awesome and have an awesome community behind it. |
noob cavman
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance
169
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:27:00 -
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Squaded with sota a few times, most chilled sarcastic funny arse you will ever meet and a pleasure to play with. Great games and greater ccompany, also has good taste in anime |
XxWarlordxX97
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
5517
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Posted - 2013.11.17 01:41:00 -
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Linqded wrote:dust community, don't allow them to gain the momentum eon had.
put the embers out before it becomes a raging inferno.
those allied with them, pay close attention to the members within their ranks and you will see many trolls and enemies of old.
rise now and stifle their progression.
before we all succumb to their rule.
AE cares nothing for this community and should not be allowed to proceed unhindered as they are.
This is a sigh, Time to go hardcore
Level 5 forum warrior
My heavy suit is OP
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XxWarlordxX97
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
5517
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Posted - 2013.11.17 01:43:00 -
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SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Dachande Anasazi wrote: EVERYTHING
Hey, me and this guy are having an actual conversation here that could help me understand others view points of my actions and could help me improve my relationship with everyone. If you have nothing to add then refrain from bringing out the troll in me.
I just call you Sota pop
Level 5 forum warrior
My heavy suit is OP
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Gildart Lightray
Eternal Beings
41
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Posted - 2013.11.17 01:55:00 -
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I have to squad up with SoTa at least once in my DUST lifetime.
When will that be? Hopefully before this game fails.
Forum Warrior lvl. 0
Rank : Trollawon / I'm doing it wrong :)
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SoTarian PoParrazi
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
215
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Posted - 2013.11.17 01:59:00 -
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Gildart Lightray wrote:I have to squad up with SoTa at least once in my DUST lifetime. When will that be? Hopefully before this game fails. Be more then happy to squad up with ya sometime.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ - Let's make a contract!
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SoTarian PoParrazi
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
215
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Posted - 2013.11.17 02:00:00 -
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noob cavman wrote:Squaded with sota a few times, most chilled sarcastic funny arse you will ever meet and a pleasure to play with. Great games and greater ccompany, also has good taste in anime Thanks for compliments! It's rare I get any. :( lol
Dem Anon guys are always fun to squad with. Though fighting for Minmatar is the reason I tend not too anymore. :(
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ - Let's make a contract!
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Gildart Lightray
Eternal Beings
41
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Posted - 2013.11.17 02:02:00 -
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SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Gildart Lightray wrote:I have to squad up with SoTa at least once in my DUST lifetime. When will that be? Hopefully before this game fails. Be more then happy to squad up with ya sometime.
That would be great. We can do Amarr FW Long live the Empress 0/
Forum Warrior lvl. 0
Rank : Trollawon / I'm doing it wrong :)
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Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
576
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Posted - 2013.11.17 02:14:00 -
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Down with AE! Theyvre been policing us for far too long with their Eon Alliance. Look at them owning 36% of Molden Heath and and using STB as a lapdog and that NewYorkNick character is just plain awful. I mean, really. Who's up for forming a FAEC with Seraphim and PRO? We got the manpowah.
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843 Epidemic
449
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Posted - 2013.11.17 09:53:00 -
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Naah it's a bit too soon for this thread.
843-BANE
Director // Ranking Officer // BurgezzE.T.F
Contact me here
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Ser Tarlon
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
61
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Posted - 2013.11.17 10:09:00 -
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843 Epidemic wrote:Naah it's a bit too soon for this thread. If an alliance owns more than 30% of MH, than it's time And to the OP, don't think it's just bad to have one alliance which rules molden heath, because only than there will be a big war. But that alliances shouldn't be able to lock their districts, that's the biggest problem in PC beneath the lag in my opinion.
Black, Red - Strength, Dead
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ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance
403
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Posted - 2013.11.17 14:00:00 -
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Linqded wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote: sotapop, your just a leftover from the old regime. you know as well as I that you and your cohorts will suck the life out of this corp/alliance and move onto the next victim. the really sad part is your a skilled player with thoughtful ideas yet you waste your ability on breaking down the community instead of building it up. I mourn your indifference.
1 question..
what life?
also one comment.
nice alt.
Ps4 Killed Microminisoft
KAPLOOOOOOYAAAAAAAAAA
Still Got your taco truck for ransome
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ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance
403
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Posted - 2013.11.17 14:05:00 -
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Linqded wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Linqded wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote: sotapop, your just a leftover from the old regime. you know as well as I that you and your cohorts will suck the life out of this corp/alliance and move onto the next victim. the really sad part is your a skilled player with thoughtful ideas yet you waste your ability on breaking down the community instead of building it up. I mourn your indifference. Although what you say rings some truth - I think I'm a bit misunderstood. The very last thing I want to do or be known for is harming this community in any shape or form. your posts in the forums and your actions on the field are disconnected I remember that post, and posts like that are reasons I do have respect for you, both as a player and a forum warrior. I understand new eden and I get that backstabbing and political intrigue are part of the game, as well as greed. but we must, for the sake of dust's growth be community builders at this stage or you and those like you will have no one to back stab and dominate. although veal is delicious, if you don't let some calves grow up to be cows you will eventually run out of fresh meat. entertain these thoughts while you continue to try to stamp out those 100% dedicated to community growth and then ask yourself if you are successful at this but don't take up the reigns yourself of providing a place for new players to grow, who will? and then you will only have the few hundred like you to play this game with. if that's what you and those like you call a win, then continue on your present course. personally, I want this game to be great and competitive and I want the community to thrive. it's partly our responsibility to do this. theres plenty of time to be the best at dominating the game, once we have a robust community ready for that level of gameplay. at the risk of sounding dramatic, right now, mercs like you are killing this game far more than the devs ever could.
one more thing
all corps will do this want to know why?
because once a dominant force leaves the game or gets destroyed a new one arises and does exactly what the last did. most corps wouldnt even join pc just because bro soooo what are you talking about? only ppl doing pc are the closed beta players because new players dont really build corps and do pc they either join other corps and get better and or not join at all and do pub matches or fw.
Ps4 Killed Microminisoft
KAPLOOOOOOYAAAAAAAAAA
Still Got your taco truck for ransome
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ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance
403
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Posted - 2013.11.17 14:13:00 -
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SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Gildart Lightray wrote:I have to squad up with SoTa at least once in my DUST lifetime. When will that be? Hopefully before this game fails. Be more then happy to squad up with ya sometime.
ive never seen this guy^^ wear a proto in pub and i usually squad up alot with the man. jussaying yo#
on another note when we do squad up in the lav of choice it reaks a smell of cheese burgers sweaty gym socks cigar smoke farts and bubblegum but both oprah winfrey and this sota guy rule in advance or standard gear.
Ps4 Killed Microminisoft
KAPLOOOOOOYAAAAAAAAAA
Still Got your taco truck for ransome
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Asya Belentine
Death Firm.
53
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Posted - 2013.11.17 14:24:00 -
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AH MAH GAWD! I wanna play with some of you bitter vets. Sounds like the promise of a good time. Also I would like to fail a bit less haha.
~~Anything is possible when your man smells like Old Spice and not a lady. IGÇÖm on a horse.~~-¥
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Gildart Lightray
Eternal Beings
42
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Posted - 2013.11.17 14:35:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:Linqded wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Linqded wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote: sotapop, your just a leftover from the old regime. you know as well as I that you and your cohorts will suck the life out of this corp/alliance and move onto the next victim. the really sad part is your a skilled player with thoughtful ideas yet you waste your ability on breaking down the community instead of building it up. I mourn your indifference. Although what you say rings some truth - I think I'm a bit misunderstood. The very last thing I want to do or be known for is harming this community in any shape or form. your posts in the forums and your actions on the field are disconnected I remember that post, and posts like that are reasons I do have respect for you, both as a player and a forum warrior. I understand new eden and I get that backstabbing and political intrigue are part of the game, as well as greed. but we must, for the sake of dust's growth be community builders at this stage or you and those like you will have no one to back stab and dominate. although veal is delicious, if you don't let some calves grow up to be cows you will eventually run out of fresh meat. entertain these thoughts while you continue to try to stamp out those 100% dedicated to community growth and then ask yourself if you are successful at this but don't take up the reigns yourself of providing a place for new players to grow, who will? and then you will only have the few hundred like you to play this game with. if that's what you and those like you call a win, then continue on your present course. personally, I want this game to be great and competitive and I want the community to thrive. it's partly our responsibility to do this. theres plenty of time to be the best at dominating the game, once we have a robust community ready for that level of gameplay. at the risk of sounding dramatic, right now, mercs like you are killing this game far more than the devs ever could. one more thing all corps will do this want to know why? because once a dominant force leaves the game or gets destroyed a new one arises and does exactly what the last did. most corps wouldnt even join pc just because bro soooo what are you talking about? only ppl doing pc are the closed beta players because new players dont really build corps and do pc they either join other corps and get better and or not join at all and do pub matches or fw.
Then what the hell am I doing then? My character was born on January 3 and I only came back to DUST around June. I have a corp of what many would say noobs. But we're going to still try.
Forum Warrior lvl. 0
Rank : Trollawon / I'm doing it wrong :)
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Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance
3784
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Posted - 2013.11.17 22:18:00 -
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The only reason Ancient Exiles would backstab anyone is because there's no-one left to give a competitive fight
ANON Diplomat -//- I Support SP Rollover ^_^
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p4rkwaydrive
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
418
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Posted - 2013.11.17 23:04:00 -
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I'm bored
GôªGôùGôÉGôú GôôGôPGôöGôó GôúGôùGôö GôòGôPGôº GôóGôÉGô¿ GÖÑ
Wa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-POW!
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Linqded
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2013.11.18 01:53:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:The only reason Ancient Exiles would backstab anyone is because there's no-one left to give a competitive fight
well they are planning a blue war.
that means they will have battles with friendly corps to farm isk. which is all they care about.
but yes once that gets boring, the usual suspects from these corps will backstab their brothers as they have time and time again to the prior alliances they were part of. |
STABBEY
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
472
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Posted - 2013.11.18 02:43:00 -
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Linqded wrote:dust community, don't allow them to gain the momentum eon had.
put the embers out before it becomes a raging inferno.
those allied with them, pay close attention to the members within their ranks and you will see many trolls and enemies of old.
rise now and stifle their progression.
before we all succumb to their rule.
AE cares nothing for this community and should not be allowed to proceed unhindered as they are.
sç+(-¼GÇ+-¼)sç+ No, we just dont like you.. Community is great +¬(GùŦ«¦âGÇó)¦¦
P.S. I hate EoN Scum! (a+ç'¦Ç-'¦ü)a+ç
Gÿú GÖ¦ Gÿñ Gäó © sç+(¬GÇ+¬)sç+ (-éGîú¦ÇGîú¦ü)ßòñ
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DJINN Kujo
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
702
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Posted - 2013.11.18 08:01:00 -
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No alt's here cause every AE. member knows how I feel about them
But if we didn't care about the community, let's see where shall I start:
- Doing my best to uphold PFC in a fashionable manner, although a hard task to take on, no lies - Giving up districts outside of PFC territory for similar ideological corporations so they can play in PC while they have a chance - We don't attack our own districts, well actually AE attacked AE. once, that was the most fun I have ever had in this game - We are now in an alliance with Dust corporations and I am almost positive all of the dust corporation leaders will keep me in line, except on Sundays cause that's my drink and play Dust nights - We still attend to smaller corporations necessities; such as Latino Killer Corporation wanting to PC against us so they can see what we do in PC's
Somehow we are at fault by an alt that doesn't have the balls to show his face.... maybe your scared? Maybe you have doubt in your own skill in this game? Who knows, sad to see your parents didn't raise you better.
Ancient Exiles, CEO
Your failure to plan ahead does not constitute an emergency on my end.
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SoTarian PoParrazi
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
254
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Posted - 2013.11.18 08:07:00 -
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DJINN Kujo wrote:No alt's here cause every AE. member knows how I feel about them But if we didn't care about the community, let's see where shall I start: - Doing my best to uphold PFC in a fashionable manner, although a hard task to take on, no lies - Giving up districts outside of PFC territory for similar ideological corporations so they can play in PC while they have a chance - We don't attack our own districts, well actually AE attacked AE. once, that was the most fun I have ever had in this game - We are now in an alliance with Dust corporations and I am almost positive all of the dust corporation leaders will keep me in line, except on Sundays cause that's my drink and play Dust nights - We still attend to smaller corporations necessities; such as Latino Killer Corporation wanting to PC against us so they can see what we do in PC's Somehow we are at fault by an alt that doesn't have the balls to show his face.... maybe your scared? Maybe you have doubt in your own skill in this game? Who knows, sad to see your parents didn't raise you better. Everyone wants to just blame the best for there problems.
I'm almost on the verge of saying **** everyone and begging to join AE. But I rather start an anime corp instead and train some new guys and get some old ones <3
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ - Let's make a contract!
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DJINN Kujo
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
702
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Posted - 2013.11.18 08:18:00 -
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We're far from the best, the best still nests with old players from Imperfects. Could we ever get there? We would have to trim the fat quite a bit and tighten things up a bit further. Talk to Marauder, he'd probably create one with you!
Ancient Exiles, CEO
Your failure to plan ahead does not constitute an emergency on my end.
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SoTarian PoParrazi
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
258
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Posted - 2013.11.18 08:34:00 -
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DJINN Kujo wrote:We're far from the best, the best still nests with old players from Imperfects. Could we ever get there? We would have to trim the fat quite a bit and tighten things up a bit further. Talk to Marauder, he'd probably create one with you! Does AE have a public channel?
And you guys are the current best - to the community eyes you may as well be Imperfects. Enjoy the burden, we sure did. Lol :)
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ - Let's make a contract!
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Zatara Rought
Imperfects
1690
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Posted - 2013.11.18 08:54:00 -
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DJINN Kujo wrote:We're far from the best, the best still nests with old players from Imperfects. Could we ever get there? We would have to trim the fat quite a bit and tighten things up a bit further. Talk to Marauder, he'd probably create one with you!
TeamPlayers on their best day > AE on their best day.
That's Master nader to you scrub.
Skype me @ Zatara.Rought
CCP's Motto: "SoonGäó"
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