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Linqded
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.16 19:35:00 -
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dust community, don't allow them to gain the momentum eon had.
put the embers out before it becomes a raging inferno.
those allied with them, pay close attention to the members within their ranks and you will see many trolls and enemies of old.
rise now and stifle their progression.
before we all succumb to their rule.
AE cares nothing for this community and should not be allowed to proceed unhindered as they are. |
Linqded
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.16 19:52:00 -
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I only meant the corp AE is going to become like the alliance eon. as you see so far their friends are troll posting.
this is how it starts. one corp with the ability to form a strong alliance that has nothing but greed in their plan but hides behind the fa+šade of friendly allainces.
mark my words once you all get sucked in deep enough AE will turn on you.
but have your laughs now. and once the QQ starts after AE has backstabbed the very posters in this thread I will link this thread in your QQ posts. |
Linqded
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.16 20:18:00 -
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SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:
sotapop, your just a leftover from the old regime. you know as well as I that you and your cohorts will suck the life out of this corp/alliance and move onto the next victim.
the really sad part is your a skilled player with thoughtful ideas yet you waste your ability on breaking down the community instead of building it up.
I mourn your indifference. |
Linqded
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.16 20:38:00 -
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SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Linqded wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote: sotapop, your just a leftover from the old regime. you know as well as I that you and your cohorts will suck the life out of this corp/alliance and move onto the next victim. the really sad part is your a skilled player with thoughtful ideas yet you waste your ability on breaking down the community instead of building it up. I mourn your indifference. Although what you say rings some truth - I think I'm a bit misunderstood. The very last thing I want to do or be known for is harming this community in any shape or form.
your posts in the forums and your actions on the field are disconnected
I remember that post, and posts like that are reasons I do have respect for you, both as a player and a forum warrior.
I understand new eden and I get that backstabbing and political intrigue are part of the game, as well as greed.
but we must, for the sake of dust's growth be community builders at this stage or you and those like you will have no one to back stab and dominate.
although veal is delicious, if you don't let some calves grow up to be cows you will eventually run out of fresh meat.
entertain these thoughts while you continue to try to stamp out those 100% dedicated to community growth and then ask yourself if you are successful at this but don't take up the reigns yourself of providing a place for new players to grow, who will?
and then you will only have the few hundred like you to play this game with.
if that's what you and those like you call a win, then continue on your present course.
personally, I want this game to be great and competitive and I want the community to thrive. it's partly our responsibility to do this. theres plenty of time to be the best at dominating the game, once we have a robust community ready for that level of gameplay.
at the risk of sounding dramatic, right now, mercs like you are killing this game far more than the devs ever could. |
Linqded
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.16 20:51:00 -
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SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Linqded wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Linqded wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote: sotapop, your just a leftover from the old regime. you know as well as I that you and your cohorts will suck the life out of this corp/alliance and move onto the next victim. the really sad part is your a skilled player with thoughtful ideas yet you waste your ability on breaking down the community instead of building it up. I mourn your indifference. Although what you say rings some truth - I think I'm a bit misunderstood. The very last thing I want to do or be known for is harming this community in any shape or form. your posts in the forums and your actions on the field are disconnected I remember that post, and posts like that are reasons I do have respect for you, both as a player and a forum warrior. I understand new eden and I get that backstabbing and political intrigue are part of the game, as well as greed. but we must, for the sake of dust's growth be community builders at this stage or you and those like you will have no one to back stab and dominate. although veal is delicious, if you don't let some calves grow up to be cows you will eventually run out of fresh meat. entertain these thoughts while you continue to try to stamp out those 100% dedicated to community growth and then ask yourself if you are successful at this but don't take up the reigns yourself of providing a place for new players to grow, who will? and then you will only have the few hundred like you to play this game with. if that's what you and those like you call a win, then continue on your present course. personally, I want this game to be great and competitive and I want the community to thrive. it's partly our responsibility to do this. theres plenty of time to be the best at dominating the game, once we have a robust community ready for that level of gameplay. at the risk of sounding dramatic, right now, mercs like you are killing this game far more than the devs ever could. Just out of curiosity and not disagreement, what exactly am I known for that has harmed this community?
generally speaking the relentless proto stomping and PC mechanics manipulation and domination.
if I really need to be more specific, then my attempt to reach out to you and your ilk is already a lost cause.
bottom line you know what you and your friends have done and are doing. I will not flame or get into a discussion based on semantics. its pointless to do so.
you either recognize the harm you and yours have done and will choose to reverse course or you will continue to clumsily steamroll the community into the dust.
it is your choice. |
Linqded
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.16 21:35:00 -
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SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:The issue of proto stomping is toughy. I grinded hard to get my gear and enjoy it - but I understand the destruction to others enjoyments it bring. As such - since Open Beta first dropped, I have never used a proto suit in pubs. I also jump into pub squads for those single games and help guide and teach and inspire people to push forward to enjoy the game as I have.
But this is a bumpy road to do - it's not something the community can see. All they notice is when I group with friends who are all vets like me - we destroy all. But I keep those squads just for FW for the Amarr side - especially since they're struggling so hard currently. (sometimes ambush since most my friends favor the quick games :( )
And then there's my personal issue with the HMG - I've tried to become a legend with it - but the stats won't allow it. So I've jumped from HMG to the only Amarr weapon *I'm an amarr loyalist* I knew of that's any good - ScR. And it's given me a bad outlook of FOTM, rather then me just breaking free of a poorly designed gun. I still think AR is a better weapon, but that's not important.
But even that is a poor excuse for myself since I run around in an LLAV - but you have to remember, 80% of my games I am solo - by myself - struggling. LLAV was my counter to my suits weaknesses *heavy*. Often times if there's no squad on the other side I'll just drive around just trying to run people over - never getting out. But even then I get hatemail.
I'm in a lose - lose situation in the communities eyes.
But despite all that - It's my deepest wish to help this game. I had 400mil ISK at one point a month ago - I've given away nearly 300mil ISK to pubs and players low in ISK for free. I am now down to nearly 200mil even with me PCing constantly and raking in 10mil a game contracts.
Honestly - this is just a rant in my defense - I have no real defense for my actions in game. I can only hope people who read my posts come to understand I am not a bad guy - want to help - will help anyone, even if I hate you. This games success and growth means more then petty disputes. But I feel stuck between a rock and a hard place.
If I could bow down infront of everyone and apologize, I would, and I would hope CCP would be behind me when I do so I could secretly throw them the middle fingers - because it's there bad mechanics forcing me to play the way I do.
I cant agree with you more in your comments about ccp. it is ultimately their responsibility.
I will take you at face value on your charitable efforts since I have not personally seen this.
if you wouldn't mind, seeing that you do seem to have the community at heart, please explain to me then why you and your corp (if you can say they feel the same as you about this game) have shown so much hostility to a training corp I will leave unnamed who is doing nothing but trying to help new players?
because right now as I see it you speak of caring for a community yet you and yours have attempted to crush one of the biggest community builders in this game.
further more have you ever reached out to this community building corp to offer your experience to its new players?
I hope you can provide some insight into this for me, because I want to believe you are a valued member of the community instead of an instigator in its demise. |
Linqded
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.16 21:47:00 -
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Derrith Erador wrote:Not going to lie, the above posts took too long to read, so I didn't.
lol if that was to long to read may I suggest never cooking a frozen dinner in a microwave.
the amount of text you would have to read to cook it safely and completely may overwhelm you.
also don't drive... road signs can be as comprehensive as a book.
oh but silly me ive already gone on to long for you and have probably used words like "book" that you are unfamiliar with.
allow me just to pat you on the soft spot in your cranium and send you on your way. |
Linqded
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:21:00 -
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Linqded wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:
I cant agree with you more in your comments about ccp. it is ultimately their responsibility.
I will take you at face value on your charitable efforts since I have not personally seen this.
if you wouldn't mind, seeing that you do seem to have the community at heart, please explain to me then why you and your corp (if you can say they feel the same as you about this game) have shown so much hostility to a training corp I will leave unnamed who is doing nothing but trying to help new players?
because right now as I see it you speak of caring for a community yet you and yours have attempted to crush one of the biggest community builders in this game.
further more have you ever reached out to this community building corp to offer your experience to its new players?
I hope you can provide some insight into this for me, because I want to believe you are a valued member of the community instead of an instigator in its demise.
The Imperfects value individuals and there ability to back up there words. They do not want to see this game go to **** anymore then the rest of you. However, they're trolls, worse then I. They tend to let petty disputes and comments derail them from there initial attempts to bring something to this game and have become very bitter towards the community. It's a shame. But they enjoy the villain role they've taken up - originally stating that if they community rose up against them it would inspire people to get more skilled. But that got derailed as well by CCP mechanics - they're a frustrated lot when it comes to Dust. I stayed with them because I wanted to be known as a good player who could play with the best and the best wanted to play with. But by doing so I became isolated from much of the community - which i work on repairing. Imps were not bad guys - they created events and RP's for people to enjoy rather then just crushing and laughing. Take the Dust Uni planet at start of PC for example - they declared intent to crush it and it turned into several threadnaughts of everyone tuning in to enjoy the meta involved. But did they crush Dust Uni? No - they never fought them more then once. SI are the ones who crushed Dust Uni and there dreams. What did the Imps do? They challenged the corps who called themselves the best and sold districts to corps who wouldn't get into PC on there own and set up protection plans for them, creating deals with EoN to leave these guys alone. And as for me helping training corps - I have. I've been asked to train heavies and show them the ropes almost monthly - and I do so with pride. No heavy should feel insecure trying to come to talk to me asking for advice on anything. I will always help.
I appreciate you taking the time to discuss this with me.
I personally understand how frustrating this game can get.
I also value the villain role in new eden.
I only hope they can realize that when they started this game it was a very different game and while encouraging the community to improve their skill and rising against them is a great endeavor, dust in its present state has not the facilities or infrastructure to meet this challenge nor the player base.
as we have already agreed CCP must do their part to ensure a thriving community but we must still do ours.
there simply isn't a good guy out their to challenge your bad guy.
we all want the same thing here I think, can I implore you and those like you to find a more productive way to achieve the goals you all seem to have.
because right now its just crushing the community.
may I suggest finding a way to build the community base without the blue wars and elitisism ( probably not a real word but you know what I mean)?
this never ending recycling of the same top players in different corps stamping out the little guys because they can isn't helping anyone but the few on the stomping side.
is there not a better way to have fun here?
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Linqded
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:24:00 -
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ER-Bullitt wrote:Yerp... put troll hats down and Sota answered my questions straight up, gave some good advice too. All done on the forums tho.. still never seen that fat bastard in game.
Side note.. best advice you can give a heavy right now.. spec into something else !
LOLz
To the OP, good luck with this endeavor. you will need it.
I only want to see the game get awesome and have an awesome community behind it. |
Linqded
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.18 01:53:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:The only reason Ancient Exiles would backstab anyone is because there's no-one left to give a competitive fight 
well they are planning a blue war.
that means they will have battles with friendly corps to farm isk. which is all they care about.
but yes once that gets boring, the usual suspects from these corps will backstab their brothers as they have time and time again to the prior alliances they were part of. |
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