You people clearly don't understand their point of view then. NO SH&T A VIDEO IS GOING TO GET A BETTER RESPONSE. You can write and write about problems all you want, at the end of the day its hard to literate a problem in the game. Especially one as complicated as HMG's not doing damage unless the reticule is red. "THATS NOT HARD TO UNDERSTAND" you say? Sure its not hard to understand what your writing, its a problem when CCP trys to REPLICATE the issue.

REPLICATE. If they cant REPLICATE it, then it becomes incredibly hard for them to fix.

Video is an outstanding way to show CCP how exactly a glitch works. It provides a step by step basis on how to replicate a bug or glitch. Once they can replicate it, they can then isolate the bug, figure out why it happens. and THEN fix the problem.

Its not a communication thing dude. Just because CCP doesn't blue tag every single god damn thread doesn't mean they don't look and read what people are writing. Why should they post on a thread that's brought up the same issue for the twelfth time? It would just be tedious and a waste of time.


My point is, yes, CCP has said time and time again that video is a good way to get things fixed. If you provide video evidence it provides a very sturdy platform for CCP to work off of. Otherwise, all you write on the forum is nothing more then opinion. The only difference is that some people's opinions sound more constructive and intelligent then others.

My point is, yes, CCP has said time and time again that video is a good way to get things fixed. If you provide video evidence it provides a very sturdy platform for CCP to work off of. Otherwise, all you write on the forum is nothing more then opinion. The only difference is that some people's opinions sound more constructive and intelligent then others.

So you rather want CCP not posting in those threads?

Seems like an excellent reason to give us the ability to record our matches in game



Probably not technically possible, but still.

More like a reason to give us some sort of sandbox mode, firing range, or private matches (similar to corp battles)

If they want us to test their product, then why not give us an easy way to test things...right?

In the case of HMG aiming bug, they were given detailed description of what and when it's happening months before video was posted. And they surely can test and replicate something more easily than us players. I don't think that every post in the feedback/requests (or general discussions) should receive a blue tag or CCP isn't communicating with it's playerbase. But it seems that they either don't pay attention to some requests, or discard them as "not important" unless people aren't screaming about it left and right. Since heavies aren't really the most used class in this game, it's no wonder there wasn't much noise being made about the bug.

Anyway, I'm suspecting they knew about the bug all along, but decided to be silent about it and hope noone notices. This probably isn't even a bug in a classic sense. More likely they decided to "borrow" the aiming mechanics from other weapons, modify it a bit to make it look like it has a spread, and just go with that. This is probably the reason why they ignored all the previous threads on the topic, until someone made a video for all to see.

I already stated in the OP a point as to why us making videos is such a chore as they have to be made in such a specific way, but let me clarify a bit:

1. We don't have an easy way to test things ourselves. Even so it takes a lot of time and effort just to set up the right conditions in order to start testing. Not to mention the whole recording and video making process as well.

2. Making videos isn't enough. I stated that I made a video about the HMG problem in the past and no one cared about it because it was just normal gameplay. In order for things to actually have any proof behind them (and for them to be even acknowledged by others), they need to be recorded in a testing environment where no other outside variables can affect them. This is the only way to keep other players from posting things about how it's my fault that the HMG dispersion doesn't work, or whatever.

3. I shouldn't have to spend time and effort to make a video showing such an obvious problem (like the lack of dispersion when using an AR for the first 30 rounds). 90%+ of the playerbase has used or uses the AR. Describing the issue in detail should be good enough since all a player has to do is equip an AR the next time they play and fire at a point on a wall to see how little dispersion/recoil there is.

Not only this, but CCP can test these things 100x faster than we can, yet we have to spend so much time and effort to bring such obvious information to light.

If we are supposed to be the primary testing force for this game, why is it then that we have no area in the game to easily test things? We don't have a sandbox mode, or a single player weapon range, or even a way to create private matches.
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We have to go out of our way just to provide them information that isn't that hard to obtain, all to make sure that certain COMMON broken machanics in this game are actually known to the DEVs.

-If you use an AR and ADS you'll notice that it has no dispersion for the first 30 rounds, and you'll wonder why Dust has this mechanic yet every other FPS doesn't. This was apparent to me ever since the very first match I played of this game.

-If you use an HMG you'll find that you mainly do damage when your reticule is red (i.e. the tiny dot in the center is on the other player), yet you do minimal damage in your spread. This takes a bit of time to actually realize, but most players saw this was an obvious problem with the changes in uprising.

-If you throw a grenade and kill a heavy in one shot you'll probably think of yourself as a great shot...until you realize that your grenade only says it does 600 damage and that heavy had 1300 ehp. You can't tell me this is supposed to be working as intended.

If anything, they could at least give us a list of the things they are currently working on, and what's important/not so important.

You mean like a roadmap? LOL!!!!!

Probably the #1 thing people have been asking for since forever.

Funny thing how people discard the previous roadmap being a roadmap despite ccp hitting mile markers and theming the ponit patches around the features slated on the roadmap in the order listed.

People can't take CCPs road map serious...for obvious reasons.

But just to elaborate some more. How many times were vehicle fixes pushed back? Not to mention other small stuff mentioned in the past that were suppose to come sooner rather than later, *cough*paintbucket*cough*.

A roadmap by CCP is something like this

- Fix abc

- Fix def

- Fix ghi (maybe more content)

So when something gets pushed back for a couple months, that roadmap basically just tells you "more fixes on the way"... no dates, no ETA, nothing.

That's not a roadmap really, that's a rough guestimation of when stuff coming. At this point, nobody would really hold their breath for any date that CCP sets.