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Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.13 23:37:00 -
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Can you make the new rifles the new default weapons on the starter fits for the non Gallente players? I think if we want the 4 rifles to have a balance we need to start having new players have an equal opportunity to try different ones. Similarly can the sidearms on the default suits also be racially based (when the new Ga and Ca pistols are released)? In eve the race doesn't limit your choices, but it does intoduce you to certain ships and weapons first depending on your race.
Over time this could make it much more likely that there will be a little more balance in rifle variants. People are just starting to warm up to the Scrambler rifle, it would be nice if it replaced the AR on the Amarr starter suits.
The Ellecon's come from a long line of Gallente. Tarn chose Peace. Tallen chose war.
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Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.11.13 23:49:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote:Can you make the new rifles the new default weapons on the starter fits for the non Gallente players? I think if we want the 4 rifles to have a balance we need to start having new players have an equal opportunity to try different ones. Similarly can the sidearms on the default suits also be racially based (when the new Ga and Ca pistols are released)? In eve the race doesn't limit your choices, but it does intoduce you to certain ships and weapons first depending on your race.
Over time this could make it much more likely that there will be a little more balance in rifle variants. People are just starting to warm up to the Scrambler rifle, it would be nice if it replaced the AR on the Amarr starter suits.
Good idea. I'm a huge fan of some more distinction in the racial starter suits. |
Vulpes Dolosus
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.11.13 23:51:00 -
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This would require that they either each get a militia variant or STD variants are use on the fits. Not that I don't support this idea, I would love it. I'd like militia variants of every weapon as well. Just pointing this out.
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Marlin Kirby
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RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.14 02:00:00 -
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I agree and have nothing to add. I'm only posting so this thread gets bumped.
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Aizen Intiki
Hell's Gate Inc
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Posted - 2013.11.14 04:19:00 -
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Agreed. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
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Posted - 2013.11.14 04:56:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:This would require that they either each get a militia variant or STD variants are use on the fits. Not that I don't support this idea, I would love it. I'd like militia variants of every weapon as well. Just pointing this out.
We need militia variants of every weapon and starter fits that include heavies, scouts, and (limited) vehicles so that new players will learn from the start that there's more to this game than medium suits and ARs.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Talos Vagheitan
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Posted - 2013.11.14 05:09:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote:Can you make the new rifles the new default weapons on the starter fits for the non Gallente players? I think if we want the 4 rifles to have a balance we need to start having new players have an equal opportunity to try different ones. Similarly can the sidearms on the default suits also be racially based (when the new Ga and Ca pistols are released)? In eve the race doesn't limit your choices, but it does intoduce you to certain ships and weapons first depending on your race.
Over time this could make it much more likely that there will be a little more balance in rifle variants. People are just starting to warm up to the Scrambler rifle, it would be nice if it replaced the AR on the Amarr starter suits.
I agree completely. - Racial militia starter suits.
Amarr assault
Caldari Assault etc.
+1
Who cares what some sniper has to say
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Lightning Bolt2
From The Mist
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Posted - 2013.11.14 05:26:00 -
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+1, we need the variety (CCP, can I ever repick my race I found out about lore & such at 6mil SP so I can't turn back!)
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Vell0cet
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.14 05:39:00 -
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Yep the NPE doesn't show off the diversity of suits/weapons/vehicles at all. I bet there are tons of people who played the academy, uninstalled and had no idea you could fly dropships, drive tanks, fire laser beams, etc. thinking it was just a bunch of ARs.
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Lt Royal
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.11.14 05:51:00 -
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Yeh I completely agree with this and it may even put a stop to the people screaming GÇ£AR 514GÇ¥, the only issue I have with this is; the Scrambler Rifle. As its militia or standard version only has single fire and would automatically unbalance the Amarrian class from the get go, so maybe if CCP released an assault variant to the standard levels not to mention Militia variants for all weaponry....... |
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PEW JACKSON
s i n g u l a r i t y
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Posted - 2013.11.14 11:04:00 -
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Militia assault scrambler rifle would be nice. Maybe even the LR being pre fitted onto a starter fit :D |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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Posted - 2013.11.14 11:25:00 -
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Signed.
Also, there should be a brief explanation of the weapon philosophy in the character creator so that they know what they're getting into during the creation process. I think it'd kinda suck to get stuck with a weapon I'm not proficient with because I didn't know the racial fighting style!
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Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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Posted - 2013.11.14 11:26:00 -
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Lt Royal wrote:Yeh I completely agree with this and it may even put a stop to the people screaming GÇ£AR 514GÇ¥, the only issue I have with this is; the Scrambler Rifle. As its militia or standard version only has single fire and would automatically unbalance the Amarrian class from the get go, so maybe if CCP released an assault variant to the standard levels not to mention Militia variants for all weaponry.......
Not necessarily. A charged shot dishes out three times the normal damage and that can strip shields in a hurry on a shield tanker and even make one-hit kills early on in the game. Just have to be a good shot xD
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deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
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Posted - 2013.11.14 11:34:00 -
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I say each player is pre skilled into racial weapon and medium suit and given an amount of sp for core skills
Christ is lord
Sanguine knights , open recruitment, join now.
Dust should add open world , kinda like arma!
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Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.14 13:16:00 -
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deepfried salad gilliam wrote:I say each player is pre skilled into racial weapon and medium suit and given an amount of sp for core skills
I'm against this, but I don't have a problem with getting free skillbooks for certain skills at the beginning.
The Ellecon's come from a long line of Gallente. Tarn chose Peace. Tallen chose war.
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Joel II X
AHPA
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Posted - 2013.11.14 17:46:00 -
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Wait, then we should have a militia variant of either the scrambler rifle or the laser rifle for the Amarrian starter fits, too.
I like this idea. +1 |
Awry Barux
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.14 18:06:00 -
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Yeah +1, though I must say that if I knew a change like this was coming, I wouldn't have picked Amarr- I want free rail rifles :( |
Marlin Kirby
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.14 18:11:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Wait, then the other races should have a militia variant of either the scrambler rifle or the laser rifle for the Amarrian starter fits, too.
I like this idea. +1
EDIT: Starter Gallente Anti-Armor should use plasma cannons then, too.
Yep. There needs to be more militia weapons. By the way, the scrambler rifle is suppose to be the Amarr AR. It's much more versatile than the LR.
We only have two light anti-armor weapons right now and one of them is terrible and isn't very fast or guided.
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Lt Royal
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.11.14 18:44:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:
Not necessarily. A charged shot dishes out three times the normal damage and that can strip shields in a hurry on a shield tanker and even make one-hit kills early on in the game. Just have to be a good shot xD
But n00bs and blueberries are not good shots........ |
Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.11.14 19:00:00 -
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+1(hundred)
Been wanting to see this for a while.
Also, I'd like to see - when all racial variants are released - a starter fit for each frame size (light/medium/heavy) not just medium frames.
Gÿó +¦ +¦ Gÿó
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CLONE117
planetary retaliation organisation
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Posted - 2013.11.14 19:06:00 -
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i wonder what the clipsize of a mlt scrambler rifle would be?....
something like this is needed.
adds something interesting to toy with.. |
Marlin Kirby
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.15 05:04:00 -
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I would put it at 30 rounds
The not logic bomb!
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Bannana Boat Corp
Relentless Heroes Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.15 10:11:00 -
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+1
But would require the racial AV as well as the other long ranged weapons like the precision rifle
Would like to see it phased in asap. Better for the LP market too
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Marlin Kirby
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.15 15:34:00 -
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Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:+1
But would require the racial AV as well as the other long ranged weapons like the precision rifle
Would like to see it phased in asap. Better for the LP market too
Yep, I'm waiting for that too. We still have no idea what the Amarr and Mim anti-vehicle weapons are. Kind of aggravating to be honest.
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Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.15 16:21:00 -
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A lot of people scream about the power of the AR but the SCR is just as deadly, they just aren't as exposed to everyone from the start. With limited SP people are unlikely to put SP into a weapon without a militia variant, I know I never tried certain weapons until I got skill less BPOs.
With this idea implemented people can start a new character and already have a wide array of new weapons to try out without skilling into. It would all be a militia variants, but it wouldn't let certain weapons be favored over others.
The Ellecon's come from a long line of Gallente. Tarn chose Peace. Tallen chose war.
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Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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Posted - 2013.11.15 16:31:00 -
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Lt Royal wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:
Not necessarily. A charged shot dishes out three times the normal damage and that can strip shields in a hurry on a shield tanker and even make one-hit kills early on in the game. Just have to be a good shot xD
But n00bs and blueberries are not good shots........
I don't really go with assumption or stereotypical standpoints.
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Marlin Kirby
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RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.15 21:47:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote:A lot of people scream about the power of the AR but the SCR is just as deadly, they just aren't as exposed to everyone from the start. With limited SP people are unlikely to put SP into a weapon without a militia variant, I know I never tried certain weapons until I got skill less BPOs.
With this idea implemented people can start a new character and already have a wide array of new weapons to try out without skilling into. It would all be a militia variants, but it wouldn't let certain weapons be favored over others.
SCR still scare the crap out of shield tanking me.
The not logic bomb!
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Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.15 21:49:00 -
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Marlin Kirby wrote:Tallen Ellecon wrote:A lot of people scream about the power of the AR but the SCR is just as deadly, they just aren't as exposed to everyone from the start. With limited SP people are unlikely to put SP into a weapon without a militia variant, I know I never tried certain weapons until I got skill less BPOs.
With this idea implemented people can start a new character and already have a wide array of new weapons to try out without skilling into. It would all be a militia variants, but it wouldn't let certain weapons be favored over others. SCR still scare the crap out of shield tanking me.
I'm not looking forward to the combat rifle either.
The Ellecon's come from a long line of Gallente. Tarn chose Peace. Tallen chose war.
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Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.21 08:02:00 -
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So....*resuscitates post*
The Ellecon's come from a long line of Gallente. Tarn chose Peace. Tallen chose war.
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Tallen Ellecon
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RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.12.09 16:13:00 -
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Maybe 1.8?
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