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WAR-MONGER SLAUGHTER
Unkn0wn Killers
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Posted - 2013.11.13 21:35:00 -
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if u think we have a small player base now.... lol .. ohhhh... u just wait till ps4 ... 
those new weapons coming .. when ever they come .. aren't enough to keep players here on ps3 ..
we need all racial variants ASAP ... or watch dust turn to dust ..
ccp .. time line / your response?
WAR-MONGER SLAUGHTER ... THE GOD HEAVY
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Jadd Hatchen
Psygod9
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
35
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Posted - 2013.11.13 21:48:00 -
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WAR-MONGER SLAUGHTER wrote:if u think we have a small player base now.... lol .. ohhhh... u just wait till ps4 ... those new weapons coming .. when ever they come .. aren't enough to keep players here on ps3 .. we need all racial variants ASAP ... or watch dust turn to dust .. ccp .. time line / your response?
You're a little late. It was all covered in this other thread:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1485658#post1485658
But tl;dr - CCP has made a commitment. They work on their own timeline. It will be ported over to PS4 when and only when it makes sense to do so. And not already covered, the new stuff was announced at both Fanfest 2013 and EVE Vegas in Oct 2013 and they confirmed new stuffs will be out before end of this year. They already have the racial stuffs (watch the demo's on youtube) and just need to integrate them onto the sony network etc.
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
1225
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Posted - 2013.11.14 02:52:00 -
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Determine the attachment rate of DUST on the PS3 and then use that number to figure out it for the PS4 attachment rate. Which one is bigger? The system with the larger number wins.
80M PS3 with 10k players is about one and 8,000 PS3 sold had DUST actively playing.
If the PS4 sold 5M on day one the we would lose a little over 600 active players IF DUST is downloaded on 1 out of every 8,000 PS4
No matter how you look at it the PS3 is the system to program for if you want to move games.
Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
932
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Posted - 2013.11.14 03:04:00 -
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Check out my corp's new website here :D
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Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
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Posted - 2013.11.14 03:05:00 -
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Is there some kind of secret drinking game going on that i'm not a part of? Every time someone makes a half baked post about the PS4 killing Dust we take a shot? I wish I would have known, I could have been hammered for the past month and a half. Player numbers seem pretty stable for a while now, the core seems fairly dedicated, and "the grind" will reel people back in when they beat their new games in a week or 2.
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KGB Sleep
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
385
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Posted - 2013.11.14 03:08:00 -
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80 million PS3 users are not all picking up their PS4s this week. |
WAR-MONGER SLAUGHTER
Unkn0wn Killers
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Posted - 2013.11.14 14:15:00 -
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KGB Sleep wrote:80 million PS3 users are not all picking up their PS4s this week.
some will n many more as we get closer to xmas ... plus after xmas sales .. dust needs to act fast to save its player base.
dust doesn't have 8000 separate active weekly players ( not counting alts) ... so every player we lose... it will show.
ps ... the post says "dust 514 & ps4" ... not ps3 vs ps4 ... 
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Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals
Top Men.
645
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Posted - 2013.11.14 14:22:00 -
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i leave this here
ps4 already breaking
YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!!
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trraacx
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.14 14:54:00 -
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I'm actually hoping to pick up a ps3 from people dumping there's so that I can play dust with my kids in the same room.
I'm pretty sure they and I will still be playing this for a few years, I doubt we are outliers.
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Asirius Medaius
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Posted - 2013.11.15 02:56:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Determine the attachment rate of DUST on the PS3 and then use that number to figure out it for the PS4 attachment rate. Which one is bigger? The system with the larger number wins.
80M PS3 with 10k players is about one and 8,000 PS3 sold had DUST actively playing.
If the PS4 sold 5M on day one the we would lose a little over 600 active players IF DUST is downloaded on 1 out of every 8,000 PS4
No matter how you look at it the PS3 is the system to program for if you want to move games.
I am afraid the math isn't that simple (and linear, may I add), you also need to recognize the amount of games on the PS4 now compared to the PS3. Because of that distribution, we could have MUCH more people playing Dust 514 and taking advantage of the lack of games on PS4's release, or we can wait a couple years when there are much more games already stable and competing.
It seems CCP likes entering the arena when the competition is more than just started.
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WAR-MONGER SLAUGHTER
Unkn0wn Killers
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Posted - 2013.11.15 03:07:00 -
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we could have MUCH more people playing Dust 514 and taking advantage of the lack of games on PS4's release
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I hope that's the case.. I would rather a larger player base... I just want ccp to release the rest of the content that can keep that player base here.... we need it now.
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Mac Dac
Wraith Shadow Guards
270
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Posted - 2013.11.15 03:19:00 -
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KGB Sleep wrote:80 million PS3 users are not all picking up their PS4s this week.
You know Sony is not going to do that any way. Thy are going to slowly send out ps4s to mae them more valuable... like what they did for the ps2s and i think ps3s.
"We should take care not to make intellect our god; it has, of course, strong muscles, but no personality" Albert Einste
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Aaroniero d'Lioncourt
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.11.15 03:43:00 -
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emtbraincase
Falconpunch Hatesurfers
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Posted - 2013.11.15 03:52:00 -
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Aaroniero d'Lioncourt wrote:
SoonGäó |
Minako Nakajima
Vortex State Empire
Dark Taboo
30
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Posted - 2013.11.15 04:49:00 -
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SoonGäó 514Gäó
"Looks can kill." // Terminally Insane
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meri jin
Goonfeet
Top Men.
625
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Posted - 2013.11.15 05:54:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Determine the attachment rate of DUST on the PS3 and then use that number to figure out it for the PS4 attachment rate. Which one is bigger? The system with the larger number wins.
80M PS3 with 10k players is about one and 8,000 PS3 sold had DUST actively playing.
If the PS4 sold 5M on day one the we would lose a little over 600 active players IF DUST is downloaded on 1 out of every 8,000 PS4
No matter how you look at it the PS3 is the system to program for if you want to move games.
Sorry to say this, but I think that you are very wrong here.
CCP in my eyes, missed a very huge chance. It's not like they need to stop Dust on PS3s, they could have done it on both systems. Like Destiny or other modern shooter do the same. Now think about the hype for a moment, look how extremely well the PS4 is sold out. I know some people (me included!) who are having a PS4 at the very first day, without having games that are absolute essential. Why is that? Because the console gamers are ready for new stuff, we have waited some years now and the pure excitement for new hardware is big. So big that I buy the PS4 even if there are not games at all.
And now think for a second what would happen if you turn you PS4 on and discover a free to play shooter on the Network. What do you think would the people do? The new console owners? Seeing a free shooter? Yeah, they would download it and take a closer look at it.
Personally I know people who sold the PS3 to buy a PS4 and I know people who don't have a PS3 but already have a PS4. Now guess what? They would like to give Dust a chance. And now that we are talking about chances, Dust had it, they could have been there, they could have jump on the new sensation train and show some presents.
Now as it is, Dust is NOT present on the PS3, some PS3 owners didn't even know about Dust, yeah, the own a PS3, play shooter and never heard of Dust.
I'm a hundred percent sure, that CCP did a big mistake now jumping day one on the PS4. I'M absolutely certain about it.
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Aisha Ctarl
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
1767
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Posted - 2013.11.15 05:58:00 -
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Well if the ps4 can play ps3 games, why can't dust simply be downloaded and played?
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Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
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Posted - 2013.11.15 05:59:00 -
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Dust is in absolutely no shape to be on PS4 right now, and putting it on PS4 would do almost nothing for it's numbers in my opinion. At best it would just split current numbers between PS3/PS4.
EDIT: Marketing is a different story however, and CCP would do well to try and spread the word better than they have been. |
dogmanpig
black market bank
43
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Posted - 2013.11.15 06:03:00 -
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A Sony representative has provided the following statement to IGN:
"A handful of people have reported issues with their PlayStation 4 systems. This is within our expectations for a new product introduction, and the vast majority of PS4 feedback has been overwhelmingly positive. We are closely monitoring for additional reports, but we think these are isolated incidents and are on track for a great launch.
There have been several problems reported, which leads us to believe there isnGÇÖt a singular problem that could impact a broader percentage of systems. The number of affected systems represents less than .4% of shipped units to date, which is within our expectations for a new product introduction."
read the source of post before you fly off the handle.
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1839
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Posted - 2013.11.15 06:06:00 -
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Well, folks are having trouble logging into the PSN. You got an article for that, too? |
dogmanpig
black market bank
43
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Posted - 2013.11.15 06:09:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Well, folks are having trouble logging into the PSN. You got an article for that, too?
not shocking, they haven't had large number to stress test the PS4 connection to PSN. check out the obama care and the fails they have had.
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1840
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Posted - 2013.11.15 06:11:00 -
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I love Playstation but some of you Sony fans act a bit like members of an occult sometimes. |
meri jin
Goonfeet
Top Men.
625
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Posted - 2013.11.15 06:12:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Well, folks are having trouble logging into the PSN. You got an article for that, too?
Dude, it's lunch day. You realizing something or are you numb?
I personally would have bean surprised if the would have NO problems with the PSN.
We all know that this should have not happens, but I happens every time something big needs a network, like WoW, SimSity, Diablo3 and other network stuff.
Btw: The HDMI problem was solved already http://kotaku.com/good-news-about-our-once-broken-ps4-1464813671
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1840
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Posted - 2013.11.15 06:15:00 -
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meri jin wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Well, folks are having trouble logging into the PSN. You got an article for that, too? Dude, it's lunch day. You realizing something or are you numb? I personally would have bean surprised if the would have NO problems with the PSN. We all know that this should have not happens, but I happens every time something big needs a network, like WoW, SimSity, Diablo3 and other network stuff. Btw: The HDMI problem was solved already http://kotaku.com/good-news-about-our-once-broken-ps4-1464813671
Like I said...
Michael Arck wrote:I love Playstation but some of you Sony fans act a bit like members of an occult sometimes.
You really need to calm down broski. Obviously my original post was part sarcasm, part cynical.
I already know and understand all the first gen/launch problems that come along with it. You Sony fans are freaking looney tunes for real.
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dogmanpig
black market bank
44
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Posted - 2013.11.15 06:19:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:I love Playstation but some of you Sony fans act a bit like members of an occult sometimes.
that doesn't actually hurt all that much, i been a die hard xbox and microsoft fan for years. i think microsoft lost their way with console games but they will come back eventually and hell the new xbox one might be its turn around, but if your calling me a sony fan, lol no. if i had not been forced to get one to play with friends i dont live near anymore, i would still be loving my xbox 360. but all console are doomed to face some first day troubles. give it a week i bet you most of it will be fixed
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meri jin
Goonfeet
Top Men.
626
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Posted - 2013.11.15 06:48:00 -
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Michael Arck I'm going to ignore you from this point.
dogmanpig wrote:Michael Arck wrote:I love Playstation but some of you Sony fans act a bit like members of an occult sometimes. that doesn't actually hurt all that much, i been a die hard xbox and microsoft fan for years. i think microsoft lost their way with console games but they will come back eventually and hell the new xbox one might be its turn around, but if your calling me a sony fan, lol no. if i had not been forced to get one to play with friends i dont live near anymore, i would still be loving my xbox 360. but all console are doomed to face some first day troubles. give it a week i bet you most of it will be fixed
I think it will take a little longer.
The PS4 have two lunch days. 15 Nov merica and the 29 Non rest of the world. This could extend the network problems if you ask me. (15 Nov. in Merica to farm some xbox marked shares)
Xbox One is lunching only in some countries on 21 Nov. this could lead to some very big network problems.
But actually I was hoping to see a Dust514/PS4 discussion here, I guess it is not possible without being called a occult member or some one pointing out that the PS4 is already crap?
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dogmanpig
black market bank
44
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Posted - 2013.11.15 06:52:00 -
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meri jin wrote:Michael Arck I'm going to ignore you from this point. dogmanpig wrote:Michael Arck wrote:I love Playstation but some of you Sony fans act a bit like members of an occult sometimes. that doesn't actually hurt all that much, i been a die hard xbox and microsoft fan for years. i think microsoft lost their way with console games but they will come back eventually and hell the new xbox one might be its turn around, but if your calling me a sony fan, lol no. if i had not been forced to get one to play with friends i dont live near anymore, i would still be loving my xbox 360. but all console are doomed to face some first day troubles. give it a week i bet you most of it will be fixed I think it will take a little longer. The PS4 have two lunch days. 15 Nov merica and the 29 Non rest of the world. This could extend the network problems if you ask me. (15 Nov. in Merica to farm some xbox marked shares) Xbox One is lunching only in some countries on 21 Nov. this could lead to some very big network problems. But actually I was hoping to see a Dust514/PS4 discussion here, I guess it is not possible without being called a occult member or some one pointing out that the PS4 is already crap?
welcome to dust 514, forums wars. war, war never changes....
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meri jin
Goonfeet
Top Men.
626
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Posted - 2013.11.15 06:58:00 -
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I used to be on the front line of the forum war, but dust become so uninteresting, that even the forum wars become boring.
Like I said, was hoping to see some interesting stuff here, so CCP might read it and admit that they have done a mistake (not to us of course, to themselves) and start on working / finishing the PS4 version. I would be interested in Dust once more if it arrive on the PS4.
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
1240
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Posted - 2013.11.15 11:05:00 -
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With limited development resources I don't think a PS4 client would be very smart. We need to work on the version for us before we work on anything else.
Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
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KGB Sleep
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
388
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Posted - 2013.11.15 11:06:00 -
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i'm on dust now but i have been playing with BF4 friends who got their consoles today. there are a few probs logging in to PSN but I am getting thier msgs now.
Is it bad that I am kind of happy that I can play dust for awhile? They will be busy with 64 player matches.
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boba's fetta
Operation Clone Shield
116
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Posted - 2013.11.15 11:09:00 -
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dust is enough to keep me on the ps3. im not intrested in upgrading yet. all thesse calls of impeanding death are rather comical. |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1843
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Posted - 2013.11.15 11:24:00 -
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How did CCP make a mistake by bringing Dust 514 to PS3 long before a PS4 was announced? How are they making a mistake now by not just jumping ship to PS4, even though so many things need to be done to this game?
That's the part I don't get. Common sense seems to be forgotten. It doesn't make sense for CCP to go to PS4 now, especially since history explains to us that every new console generation iteration needs a significant time block to allow folks to transition from PS3 to PS4. It doesn't make sense when content still has to be developed for the game itself. Also you must consider that this is new tech. So we want CCP, in the game's current state, to bring it to PS4 and also work on new content while learning and understanding the tech of PS4? That's alot of work to be done. It's not a "plug and play" situation, so to speak.
Why are we wanting more on the plate? PS4 isn't going to solve anything besides making Dust graphically appeasing. Content still needs to be added. Bugs, weapon balances and such still needs to be hashed out. It's like a kid who sits at a table who only ate half of his dinner but he is already reaching for his dessert. It's not good to do that.
It will come to PS4 but right now, its really not a concern. And its for reasons that we should at least understand. Let's continue to get this game better before we think of the next big thing. |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
1428
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Posted - 2013.11.15 11:34:00 -
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I haven't played Dust for a little while now, and am done with it for the time being. However when, and if, they get on PS4, I will probably take another look at it if it seems decent enough by then. The game still has potential, and is one heck of a competitive shooter due to a lot of very dedicated and beast players. But it does need a LOT of work and TLC.
Had a lot of good times in the year+ I played it (the longest I have ever stuck with a single online game), but I have moved on. And with the PS4 officially released as of today, I doubt I will ever get back into Dust for the PS3. It'll be KZSF for me for a while.
Sadly I don't think this game will make it to PS4 because it will have died before it even had the opportunity, but would be nice to see it evolve and eventually make it. |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1562
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Posted - 2013.12.03 23:14:00 -
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Dust will survive to the PS4.
Just look at EvE Online, people said CCP was gonna fail, and now look at it.
As for the racial variants, I expect them to come around 1.8 or 1.9, but no later than 2.0
Just look at the DEV Blogs for 1.7. This is enough proof that CCP is getting work done as opposed to just plastering SoonGäó everywhere and crossing their fingers hoping people will forget.
I mean it's just appalling. CCP releases an DEV blog, people praise it.
CCP releases an update, and the playerbase praises it. Then 2 weeks later they decide to moan and groan about the other stuff that wasn't in the update.
Will anything satisfy you people?
Actually, don't answer that. I already know the answer is no
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
1562
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Posted - 2013.12.03 23:15:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:I haven't played Dust for a little while now, and am done with it for the time being. However when, and if, they get on PS4, I will probably take another look at it if it seems decent enough by then. The game still has potential, and is one heck of a competitive shooter due to a lot of very dedicated and beast players. But it does need a LOT of work and TLC.
Had a lot of good times in the year+ I played it (the longest I have ever stuck with a single online game), but I have moved on. And with the PS4 officially released as of today, I doubt I will ever get back into Dust for the PS3. It'll be KZSF for me for a while.
Sadly I don't think this game will make it to PS4 because it will have died before it even had the opportunity, but would be nice to see it evolve and eventually make it.
I'll bet 2 million ISK that DUST 514 survives to the PS4.
And when it does, I want a formal thread saying "I told you so".
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
3197
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Posted - 2013.12.03 23:16:00 -
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Trash game is trash.
I still laugh at "laser focused on ps3" lol
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Dbukalski
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.12.04 00:01:00 -
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Eve survived because it is fun for new players back when mmos was the thing to.do and u pay monthly subscriptions
Dust is ftp. Its revenue depends on new player paying for new things. What are vets spending money on? Wheress the revenue streeam when its the same 2000 vets for 3 years and u all have ur bos and dont need mid level aur gear when u have proto.
Ps4 was an opportunitu missed for nubs to play against other nubs and someday mix the 2 communities. Keep the proto suites out |
Vell0cet
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
659
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Posted - 2013.12.04 00:27:00 -
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If DUST went to 2 different platforms (of 2 different generations) simultaneously using presumably 2 different engines (unreal 3 & 4) development will grind to a halt. When there are balance issues, they will have to figure out if it's the PS3 client, PS3 server code, the Unreal 3 engine, or PS4 client issues, PS4 server issues, probems with the Unreal 4 engine. When they make changes it will have to be thoroughly tested in both environments as well as mixed environments. It complicates development exponentially (and consequentially slows it by the same factor). We need CCP to focus on getting the missing content in place and balanced before the monumental challenge of porting this thing over to next gen.
Once we have the basic gameplay in a good place, then it is time for a full court press to do the port (perhaps for a spring 2015 release). With a fresh port of a solid game, the hope is we will see a new set of reviews and a marketing campaign to promote DUST. I think we will see a surge of players from that point forward. This game is still too much like a beta right now.
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