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Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2128	Posted - 2013.11.13 15:21:00 - [1] - Quote I am, not afraid to admit it either, sure as hell not one of the best players out there in dust just an slightly above average scrub. Wouldn't even class myself as one of the better scouts in the game. I'm that guy who takes a proto scout suit into the half of a battle everyone else has given up on and goes 30-17 like a fool. Just a hard working scrub that tries his best in his role. So are you? Sinboto - The True Blood Minja. Forum Warrior level 2 A grunt of STB
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 2448	Posted - 2013.11.13 15:25:00 - [2] - Quote I guess I'm in the middle of "Average" Level 2 Forum Warrior Hate Lord
Kovinis Sparagas Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 84	Posted - 2013.11.13 15:26:00 - [3] - Quote I'm below average best kill streak
Cosgar ParagonX 7736	Posted - 2013.11.13 15:29:00 - [4] - Quote Below average-average at best when it comes to killing, average-above average logi. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
xSaloLx SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 155	Posted - 2013.11.13 15:29:00 - [5] - Quote I know I am. Roughly 11m and terribad gun game. That's why I'm a logi. ITT: Actual logistics players.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 430	Posted - 2013.11.13 15:29:00 - [6] - Quote Hard to say, i have trouble with classifying how good someone is. I would say average to low average, but i do excel at having fun. I am apparently not the only fool
Acturus Galaxy Happy Pumpkin 171	Posted - 2013.11.13 15:31:00 - [7] - Quote I am average as well, keeping my KDR at 1 and win/loose at 1 First weapon I specialized in was the plasma canon, and now I am going for scout with scrambler pistol, I am picking everything that are not FoTM. Did try dropships for a time but that was too hardcore and isk costly for my taste. I have proto gal logi but very rarely use this, I find it too boring now that it has become FoTM. It was more challenging when everyone was running shield tanked cal logis. It was difficult keeping my KDR at 1 using a plasma canon as only weapon on my logi.
Ansiiis The Trustworthy We Pay The Iron Price 391	Posted - 2013.11.13 15:36:00 - [8] - Quote I would say I am average.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 7553	Posted - 2013.11.13 15:40:00 - [9] - Quote Technically above average, though I'm definitely a scrub Fan Fiction \ Broke Dropship Pilot /
Idye Lotz xCosmic Voidx Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 192	Posted - 2013.11.13 15:41:00 - [10] - Quote Acturus Galaxy wrote: I am average as well, keeping my KDR at 1 and win/loose at 1 First weapon I specialized in was the plasma canon, and now I am going for scout with scrambler pistol, I am picking everything that are not FoTM. Did try dropships for a time but that was too hardcore and isk costly for my taste. I have proto gal logi but very rarely use this, I find it too boring now that it has become FoTM. It was more challenging when everyone was running shield tanked cal logis. It was difficult keeping my KDR at 1 using a plasma canon as only weapon on my logi. Lol using a plasma cannon I would say having a 1 k/d is impressive Is Sorry for shooting you in the back. Now please look elsewhere so I can continue.

A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 433	Posted - 2013.11.13 15:42:00 - [11] - Quote Average I am.
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 1257	Posted - 2013.11.13 15:44:00 - [12] - Quote I am probably a bit above average if I look at my usual place on the scoreboards at the end of matches. "Please don't" GÿåForum warrior lvl.1Gÿå
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 1288	Posted - 2013.11.13 15:44:00 - [13] - Quote I am scrub garbage. But, you will go broke trying to **** with me. Cheeseburgers.
Hecarim Van Hohen Unkn0wn Killers 242	Posted - 2013.11.13 15:48:00 - [14] - Quote I'd like to think that I'm average but anyone that I've played against (and with) would say I'm not average, not even close :D D-í¦¦¦¦i-ó¦¦¦+¦¿¦ºv-ë-£i-ë¦ó¦¦d¦ò-Ç¦íe¦¦-ë-í¦ò-ó ¦ò¦+-üw¦¿¦¦e-ü -ë¦òs¦¢¦+t-Å¦+-£a¦¢-án-¥¦¢-ƒ¦¢d-ü-í-ó¦ó-ó ¦¦u-ÿ-ó¦¦¦+n-ÿ-í¦¦-ü-ëi¦ó-ó-Pt-Å-Åe¦º-Å-Çd-Å-ó -ü-ÿ-ü-íw¦¿-¥-£¦í-ëe¦¦-ÿ-ü -í-ü¦óf-ía¦¢¦+-P¦í-ól-ƒ¦ó
Shotty GoBang Pro Hic Immortalis 2168	Posted - 2013.11.13 15:52:00 - [15] - Quote Brave Sinboto, I'm afraid you are mistaken. You're KDR ranks in the upper 26th percentile of Scout Community. Not to mention your lofty kill count, ranked in the upper 15th. A claim of 'average' on your part is statistically unsound. You are a deadly Scout, like it or not :-)
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Public Disorder. 1217	Posted - 2013.11.13 15:55:00 - [16] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: I am scrub garbage. But, you will go broke trying to **** with me. +1 bro. Spoken like a real merc =) I support SP rollover.
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 87	Posted - 2013.11.13 15:56:00 - [17] - Quote I'm by no means average in pub matches. I'm at least in fourth place most of the time and I rarely go negative. PC is different. I suck in PC. Although, most of my matches were against TPs and Hell storm (or today's AE.) BTW: The average KDR in most games is below 1. It was like .83 in MAG. BF3 KDRs were heavily skewed because of the revive system. The not logic bomb!
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR DROID EXILES 545	Posted - 2013.11.13 15:57:00 - [18] - Quote I would say I am a slightly above average scrub YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
knight of 6 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 592	Posted - 2013.11.13 15:58:00 - [19] - Quote I don't know what average is. players better than me are above me and players worse than me are below me so in my mind I will always be "the middle" regardless of the middle's location. 10 mill sp proto capable 3000 - 4000 kills 1.3 KDR WP per match 800ish 1k+ in a good game. am I average? "God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon Ko6, scout, tanker. CLOSED BETA VET
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Public Disorder. 1217	Posted - 2013.11.13 15:58:00 - [20] - Quote Definitely somewhere in average here. But i like to think i'm in the upper decile of being a highly annoying pain-in-the-ass. I support SP rollover.

IVIaster LUKE Shadow Company HQ 83	Posted - 2013.11.13 16:00:00 - [21] - Quote I'm below average at best myself. Just a scrub having fun. Just giving ya'll something to shoot at. ;) "If you can dodge a Wrench, you can dodge a Duvolle".
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 88	Posted - 2013.11.13 16:03:00 - [22] - Quote IVIaster LUKE wrote: I'm below average at best myself. Just a scrub having fun. Just giving ya'll something to shoot at. ;) I love your SIG. The not logic bomb!
Heimdallr69 Imperfect Bastards 1270	Posted - 2013.11.13 16:03:00 - [23] - Quote I'm average I'm everyone's type
Kal Kronos L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 104	Posted - 2013.11.13 16:08:00 - [24] - Quote Slightly above average, I'll know that I've become "leet" when I finally spec core locus and can spam them every where. I have no delusions as to my skills, I feel a lot of players on here do though. **** is played on miles upon miles of wire, some time connection makes you the boot and other times your the bug. Dedicated redline sniper, tower forger, nade spammer, protostomper, and mass driver.
axis alpha Red Star. EoN. 73	Posted - 2013.11.13 16:09:00 - [25] - Quote With a 2.60 id say I'm pretty average. The best part of waking up, is whiskey in my cuuuuup!
IVIaster LUKE Shadow Company HQ 83	Posted - 2013.11.13 16:16:00 - [26] - Quote Marlin Kirby wrote: IVIaster LUKE wrote: I'm below average at best myself. Just a scrub having fun. Just giving ya'll something to shoot at. ;) I love your SIG. tips the hat. Who doesn't need a good laugh every now and then. "If you can dodge a Wrench, you can dodge a Duvolle".
Everything Dies Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 214	Posted - 2013.11.13 16:17:00 - [27] - Quote I'd like to think that I'm good at what I do...i.e. avoid being slaughtered in CQC. I'm rarely at the top of the leaderboards (1,000+ WP is a good match for me, easier now that I've fitted a suit with uplinks) but that's due to the fact that I prefer to play defensively; I find the nearest node and will defend it the entire match, be it with a sniper rifle, the occasional Wiyrkomi swarm, scout suit with REs or a cheap AR suit. My gun game is weak, so I rely on the element of surprise to get my kills. KDR has dropped by .5 following the move to scout/AR builds. Life is killing me.
Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 2295	Posted - 2013.11.13 16:17:00 - [28] - Quote Hello My name is Isk and I'm a hopeful tryhard -ê HellsGÇáorm Director -ê `Gû¦Amarr VictorGû¦`
Mregomies The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 108	Posted - 2013.11.13 16:20:00 - [29] - Quote I'm average. Kdr 1.5 and 15.5mil SP w/l ratio 1 Suomi, Finland, PERKELE!
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1751	Posted - 2013.11.13 16:28:00 - [30] - Quote I'm proud to say I'm solidly decent at video games. I'm not competitive enough to GAF about being good, so not being terrible is just fine by me.

Rei Shepard Spectre II 928	Posted - 2013.11.13 16:32:00 - [31] - Quote Well if i compare myself to myself but go back 12-13 years ago, i am kinda Average right now, compared to back then, when we played team deathmatch on a lan there was Team A and team B, team B being just me and team A everyone else, then they would ban me from using single shot weapon.... FCK COBRA STOP USING THE SNIPER RIFLE.... FCK COBRA STOP USING THE CROSSBOW.... FCK COBRA STOP USING THE MAGNUM.... FCK COBRA STOP USING THE AK... good times....but Carpal Tunnel, wrist nerve damage and age is a real ***** to keep beating it back.... I am not kidding btw...(36y old) sniff... Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 271	Posted - 2013.11.13 16:36:00 - [32] - Quote Interesting post, Sinboto... +1 I'm an average slayer...I can occasionally get a decent kill streak in but more often than not I'm even KDR or slightly underwater. I knew that before I even started Dust though. My number 1 goal is to be the best team mate possible and I pretty much focus my efforts on that. I take a lot of pride in kill assists, hacking, shielding hackers, or making a solo run to get an uplink down on our next objective, or flanking and disrupting enemies while our real slayers knock them down, and protecting our Logibro's so they can keep the machine going. Victory in the match is what I'm looking for. No matter how rough some parts of the game are at the moment...I'm having a blast.
Humble Seeker PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 58	Posted - 2013.11.13 16:42:00 - [33] - Quote Well, I assess each battle and do the best that I can with my main fitting, which is Amarr Assault (Templar variant suit) with the Templar Laser rifle, until I decide to start using the advanced Amarr assault and fit an advanced LR with it. I run with a squad when I can, but when not, I just try to find ways to use my weapon of choice to support my team by burning down weakened enemies, or singling out troublesome rambo's. I'm terribad at close-quarters combat. I just point my scrambler pistol at the baddie and hope for the best. Whenever we're getting protostomped or just generally smacked around, I pull out a Baloch (Militia LAV) with a militia active scanner, and do my best to turn enemy players into proto-pancakes. Or at least annoy them enough to make them pull out Wyrkomi Swarms. Kek. "Surround yourself with the faithful, Stand together, for there is no strength like it under the heavens."
Krom Ganesh Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 660	Posted - 2013.11.13 16:44:00 - [34] - Quote On a good day, above average. The rest of the time, around average. !
KatanaPT Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 357	Posted - 2013.11.13 16:45:00 - [35] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Well if i compare myself to myself but go back 12-13 years ago, i am kinda Average right now, compared to back then, when we played team deathmatch on a lan there was Team A and team B, team B being just me and team A everyone else, then they would ban me from using single shot weapon.... FCK COBRA STOP USING THE SNIPER RIFLE.... FCK COBRA STOP USING THE CROSSBOW.... FCK COBRA STOP USING THE MAGNUM.... FCK COBRA STOP USING THE AK... good times....but Carpal Tunnel, wrist nerve damage and age is a real ***** to keep beating it back.... I am not kidding btw...(36y old) sniff... Lies, we have met several times and you are above average :P! Im average at best, there are good days and there are bad days, but what is important is having fun with your corpmates. And i know what you are talking about (35y old here) carpal tunnel and hands cramping up are a drag, and now with winter coming its gonna be interesting... Tech Guard Recruiting Spot
Master Jaraiya Ultramarine Corp 1277	Posted - 2013.11.13 16:50:00 - [36] - Quote I am probably the absolute worst player in the history of DUST 514. "The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies." *- The Toad Sage*
Kam Elto KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 130	Posted - 2013.11.13 16:51:00 - [37] - Quote Slightly below average but my large amount of SP make me slightly above average. Thank god for boosters.
Rei Shepard Spectre II 931	Posted - 2013.11.13 16:54:00 - [38] - Quote KatanaPT wrote: Rei Shepard wrote: Well if i compare myself to myself but go back 12-13 years ago, i am kinda Average right now, compared to back then, when we played team deathmatch on a lan there was Team A and team B, team B being just me and team A everyone else, then they would ban me from using single shot weapon.... FCK COBRA STOP USING THE SNIPER RIFLE.... FCK COBRA STOP USING THE CROSSBOW.... FCK COBRA STOP USING THE MAGNUM.... FCK COBRA STOP USING THE AK... good times....but Carpal Tunnel, wrist nerve damage and age is a real ***** to keep beating it back.... I am not kidding btw...(36y old) sniff... Lies, we have met several times and you are above average :P! Im average at best, there are good days and there are bad days, but what is important is having fun with your corpmates. And i know what you are talking about (35y old here) carpal tunnel and hands cramping up are a drag, and now with winter coming its gonna be interesting... :) ill take Above Average then when you give it to me, but i am way passed being really good back then, its gonna s*ck when i am 50 and a new shooter comes out, especially when you see stuff like the Omni being made to run in and the Oculus Rift, my neck already hurst when i turn it normally, let alone with an entire helmet on my head....4-5 hours a day ... Some of us were born 20 years too friggin soon... Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 88	Posted - 2013.11.13 16:59:00 - [39] - Quote Kam Elto wrote: Slightly below average but my large amount of SP make me slightly above average. Thank god for boosters. It's true. I should know. The not logic bomb!
steadyhand amarr Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1908	Posted - 2013.11.13 16:59:00 - [40] - Quote No one who checks fourms can count as an average user as it indicates a level of intrest outside of the I just want to log in play. Which is why iv always promoted talk to players in game while they are playing "my faith is my shield, the empress's light my guide and my fury my sword" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers

Nova Skyy Days of Ruin 0	Posted - 2013.11.13 17:07:00 - [41] - Quote I would say I'm poor to below average, but I've only been doing this for about two weeks. I'm quite confused, however the more I play the more I get a sense for the game. For a rookie, it's quite difficult to break into it all. There hasn't been one game where some player or groups of players know all the hidden spots and tricks for each map. I'm against people with huge dps, using massive weapons, big shield and armor tanks, and running around with skills that would take months to achieve. It's even more discouraging to realize that when I get those skills in the next few months, those players will be even greater skilled. I refuse to buy AUR, as I think that's just a silly cash cow for CCP. I hope it's a trend that does not stay in online games... as paying to win is a joke to me. With that said, I do have fun playing, but I think the game matching can be better done as it seems to randomly place teams with no skill balance. I'll play for a while more, but if I can't get over the rookie hump, then I think I'll pass on this one.
steadyhand amarr Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1910	Posted - 2013.11.13 17:09:00 - [42] - Quote One comment that stuck out was silly cash cow??? How else are ccp ment to make money on this game as whenever they make guns people cry out pay to win "my faith is my shield, the empress's light my guide and my fury my sword" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Meeko Fent Xer Cloud Consortium 1516	Posted - 2013.11.13 17:12:00 - [43] - Quote I am rather average. Usually go 1 for one. If its not a pub stomp like usual, I can go up to 2 for one, but usually 2.5 KDR. I Lock obbys Up on the Gallentean Scum. For the State! For Caldari FW join Caldari Hierarchy
Meeko Fent Xer Cloud Consortium 1516	Posted - 2013.11.13 17:15:00 - [44] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: One comment that stuck out was silly cash cow??? How else are ccp ment to make money on this game as whenever they make guns people cry out pay to win It isn't really pay to win anyway. Like that IGN guy said, "Its more Pay to play with all the new stuff you wont be using for a while. You pay and get to use the exact same things we freebies use only without the skill cost. For the State! For Caldari FW join Caldari Hierarchy
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 103	Posted - 2013.11.13 17:16:00 - [45] - Quote With a KDR of 1.15 I'm clearly in the average group. I'd like to think much of that is because of kbm, but really that's just an excuse. On the bright side, I'm trending upwards. Now being 43, I don't ever think I'll be the gamer I was when I was in my 20's and 30's and played competitively -- and I'm cool with that.
Ghost Kaisar R 0 N 1 N 825	Posted - 2013.11.13 17:17:00 - [46] - Quote Definitely Above Average. I might not be the best, but sure as hell better expect some resistance "All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
Nova Skyy Days of Ruin 0	Posted - 2013.11.13 17:18:00 - [47] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: One comment that stuck out was silly cash cow??? How else are ccp ment to make money on this game as whenever they make guns people cry out pay to win I'd rather just pay for the game. I don't have a beef with "extra" pay only items, but only if it's for aesthetic purposes. Seems paying for better weapons, armor, items, and boosters to skills only unbalances the game. Why should someone be better just because they can afford to boost skills? It's not a good atmosphere for gaming.
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1712	Posted - 2013.11.13 17:21:00 - [48] - Quote Pubs worst player you'll ever see PC solid player can go toe to toe with pretty good players... CEO of The Corporate Raiders, We're still recruiting... Level 1 Forum Warrior
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1712	Posted - 2013.11.13 17:28:00 - [49] - Quote Nova Skyy wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: One comment that stuck out was silly cash cow??? How else are ccp ment to make money on this game as whenever they make guns people cry out pay to win I'd rather just pay for the game. I don't have a beef with "extra" pay only items, but only if it's for aesthetic purposes. Seems paying for better weapons, armor, items, and boosters to skills only unbalances the game. Why should someone be better just because they can afford to boost skills? It's not a good atmosphere for gaming. I think that comes from a lack of a player market I'm going to bet 1-day boosters will go for 2-5 mill ISK 3-day boosters will go for 5-15 mill ISK 28-day boosters will go for 50-200 mill ISK BPO's (if sellable) 100-500 mill ISK Officer Weapons 1-2(Wolfmans/Calas)-4-5(Krins/Gastuns/Thales/Balacs) AUR BPC's 10kSTD-50kADV-150kPRO-500kTanks/DSs CEO of The Corporate Raiders, We're still recruiting... Level 1 Forum Warrior
Seymor Krelborn DUST University Ivy League 1192	Posted - 2013.11.13 17:39:00 - [50] - Quote I have average gun game if that's what you mean. I think I have above average battle awareness and tacticle execution. I think im pretty good at making isk and a decent squad leader. im certainly not on par with ancient exiles. insert witty or profound statement here _______.

Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe PC RISE of LEGION 1919	Posted - 2013.11.13 17:41:00 - [51] - Quote I'd like to think I'm above average. Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
DoubleTap420 Pradox One Proficiency V. 107	Posted - 2013.11.13 17:45:00 - [52] - Quote I guess I would consider myself a little better than above average. I would also put myself as a top 10 ground scout maybe. Long live scouts! We will prevail one day.
Aria Gomes Death by Disassociation Zero-Day 116	Posted - 2013.11.13 17:47:00 - [53] - Quote Below average but I do have some great battles under my battle where my gun game is great. I'm a support Assault so I care more about getting people to the front then myself. Once people rise out the uplinks, I head out there and go shoot. I die s lot, but at least I made sh!t happen.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1214	Posted - 2013.11.13 17:48:00 - [54] - Quote I consider myself average, I jsut think a larger then average amount of you suck monkey balls.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Public Disorder. 1218	Posted - 2013.11.13 17:49:00 - [55] - Quote Nova Skyy wrote: I would say I'm poor to below average, but I've only been doing this for about two weeks. I'm quite confused, however the more I play the more I get a sense for the game. For a rookie, it's quite difficult to break into it all. There hasn't been one game where some player or groups of players know all the hidden spots and tricks for each map. I'm against people with huge dps, using massive weapons, big shield and armor tanks, and running around with skills that would take months to achieve. It's even more discouraging to realize that when I get those skills in the next few months, those players will be even greater skilled. I refuse to buy AUR, as I think that's just a silly cash cow for CCP. I hope it's a trend that does not stay in online games... as paying to win is a joke to me. With that said, I do have fun playing, but I think the game matching can be better done as it seems to randomly place teams with no skill balance. I'll play for a while more, but if I can't get over the rookie hump, then I think I'll pass on this one. Stock with it, that rookie hump does pass. And remember that your skillpoints go a lot further than the vet's and you are closing the gap on them with every match,as painful as that might be at times. I support SP rollover.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe PC RISE of LEGION 1919	Posted - 2013.11.13 17:49:00 - [56] - Quote Nova Skyy wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: One comment that stuck out was silly cash cow??? How else are ccp ment to make money on this game as whenever they make guns people cry out pay to win I'd rather just pay for the game. I don't have a beef with "extra" pay only items, but only if it's for aesthetic purposes. Seems paying for better weapons, armor, items, and boosters to skills only unbalances the game. Why should someone be better just because they can afford to boost skills? It's not a good atmosphere for gaming. I don't think you are ever going to be truly satisfied in gaming unless you reside in some country where the state is so powerful that they decide to provide entertainment to it's oppressed populace for free. This isn't Alice in Wonderland. Businesses have to make money. I know plenty of people that are badass at this game that have never spent a dime. I'm average and I've spent a ton. Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1751	Posted - 2013.11.13 18:02:00 - [57] - Quote Nova Skyy wrote: I would say I'm poor to below average, but I've only been doing this for about two weeks. I'm quite confused, however the more I play the more I get a sense for the game. For a rookie, it's quite difficult to break into it all. There hasn't been one game where some player or groups of players know all the hidden spots and tricks for each map. I'm against people with huge dps, using massive weapons, big shield and armor tanks, and running around with skills that would take months to achieve. It's even more discouraging to realize that when I get those skills in the next few months, those players will be even greater skilled. I refuse to buy AUR, as I think that's just a silly cash cow for CCP. I hope it's a trend that does not stay in online games... as paying to win is a joke to me. With that said, I do have fun playing, but I think the game matching can be better done as it seems to randomly place teams with no skill balance. I'll play for a while more, but if I can't get over the rookie hump, then I think I'll pass on this one. Make sure to hang out int the rookie training grounds section of the forum. They have a channel "the learning coalition" for helping newbies figure out this game. Take them up on their offer. These guys know their ****.
Buddha Brown Factory Fresh 441	Posted - 2013.11.13 18:27:00 - [58] - Quote a hair above average when playing regularly, prettttty bad now that I poke my head in once a month or so. Still haven't DL'd this 1.6 and its apparent "ttk" madenss so I might even be half decent considering max'd assault/AR role
XANDER KAG Red Star. EoN. 484	Posted - 2013.11.13 18:34:00 - [59] - Quote I have no problem admiring it. I learned who to avoid better, so it looks like I am a better player than I really am, statistically speaking. Who says you can't kill in style? Fear the tribes.
Thor McStrut Reckoners 372	Posted - 2013.11.13 18:36:00 - [60] - Quote Seeing some of you in here who claim average, or above average, that makes me bottom of the barrel. I nearly always finish in the middle of the team (6-10), unless I'm having a bad game, then I'm in the bottom 5. The rare games I'm in the top 5, means there was something wrong with the rest of the blueberries.

True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4119	Posted - 2013.11.13 18:40:00 - [61] - Quote I'd like to think that before I quit I was doing pretty well as a rookie tanker. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1751	Posted - 2013.11.13 18:56:00 - [62] - Quote Thor McStrut wrote: Seeing some of you in here who claim average, or above average, that makes me bottom of the barrel. I nearly always finish in the middle of the team (6-10), unless I'm having a bad game, then I'm in the bottom 5. The rare games I'm in the top 5, means there was something wrong with the rest of the blueberries. Hey, it gets better. You'll learn the tricks to doing well that aren't entirely obvious. I don't know what you're specced into, but having a level one logi fit is really handy for farming SP. This also let's you learn some tactics that let you read the ebb and flow of the battle a little bit more. constantly having +x points pop up for support action means you are learning where to be in a fight. you can take those lessons and apply them to your slayer fits. There is really no reason that anyone who uses a medium frame to not be able to run a standard level logi. Even if you're going for Assault you'll have all the pre-reqs for running a decent logi of that race. All you need to do is spec level one and toss some equipment on there.
Quil Evrything DUST University Ivy League 375	Posted - 2013.11.13 19:29:00 - [63] - Quote A mathematical interruption for all the "am I average/ am I not average" introspection: When it comes to your kills, your KDR is a zero-sum game. For you to be doing well, someone else has to be doing not well. Or at least, not as well as you. So if your KDR at the end of a game is >1.0, then you were "above average" for the players in that game. This is separate from your 1-16 ranking.
Awry Barux Xer Cloud Consortium 310	Posted - 2013.11.13 19:35:00 - [64] - Quote I vary anywhere between 1/10 and 10/2 depending on level of intoxication. Integrate over intoxication and I end up being pretty much average to slightly above average (overall k/d between 1-1.5).
Vinsarrow New Eden Blades Of The Azure 77	Posted - 2013.11.13 19:45:00 - [65] - Quote Average is a illusion as well as the term normal
Awesome Pantaloons Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 147	Posted - 2013.11.13 20:06:00 - [66] - Quote I wondered for a while if I was average. This thread has made me realize that I am indeed above average. :D Thanks for the confidence boost suckers! Ah, I'm just kidding with you guys. I'm impressed that you are sticking around and having fun even if you aren't completely dominating. A round of applause to you all! Unless you're a dirty Minmatar heathen... then you need to just gtfo. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited." -The Code of Demeanor
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 89	Posted - 2013.11.13 20:08:00 - [67] - Quote Quil Evrything wrote: A mathematical interruption for all the "am I average/ am I not average" introspection: When it comes to your kills, your KDR is a zero-sum game. For you to be doing well, someone else has to be doing not well. Or at least, not as well as you. So if your KDR at the end of a game is >1.0, then you were "above average" for the players in that game. This is separate from your 1-16 ranking. The average KDR in most shooters is less than 1. Vinsarrow wrote: Average is a illusion as well as the term normal "Average" is mathematical term, but it's been bastardized by people of the internet who don't know what is means. For those who don't know, average means the sum of everything in a variable divided by the number of numbers. Sample: 3,3,3,3,3 3+3+3+3+3=15 15/5=3 The average is 3 Sample: 1,2,3,4,5 1+2+3+4+5=15 15/5=3 The average is 3 Sample: 3,6,7,23,8 3+6+7+23+8=47 47/5=9.4 The average is 9.4 You should have learned this in third grade. The not logic bomb!
XEROO COOL Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 110	Posted - 2013.11.13 20:11:00 - [68] - Quote I am a meat popsicle. Everyone has a plan until you punch em in the face! (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles. 2904	Posted - 2013.11.13 20:11:00 - [69] - Quote I'm pretty bad. Below avg I'd say GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 2
1st Lieutenant Tiberius 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 463	Posted - 2013.11.13 20:13:00 - [70] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: I'm pretty bad. Below avg I'd say As another below average player, I can confirm this statement The Sinwarden

XEROO COOL Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 110	Posted - 2013.11.13 20:14:00 - [71] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: I'm pretty bad. Below avg I'd say (-.(-.(-.-).-).-) Chinese mafia agrees with you! Everyone has a plan until you punch em in the face! (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
Justice Prevails 82	Posted - 2013.11.13 20:18:00 - [72] - Quote Maybe average. I get my share of top 3 finishes, but as a lonewolf, I am usually on a team of randoms. My kdr is on the rise from the dark depths of my first couple months. I think a pro coach once said that you are only as good as your last game. That's why I always go to bed on a good one. Whatever my skill level, probably hit my ceiling, being 40 and all. That's ok, as long as the bills are being paid, life is good.:-) Great job, team. Head back to the MCC for debriefing and cocktails.
Robocop Junior The Surrogates Of War 348	Posted - 2013.11.13 20:24:00 - [73] - Quote It's ok to be average since at least 50% of every game's playerbase are just horrendous.
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 89	Posted - 2013.11.13 20:33:00 - [74] - Quote Robocop Junior wrote: It's ok to be average since at least 50% of every game's playerbase are just horrendous. When it comes to KDR, most players are terrible or a small minority is really good. Depends on your perspective. The not logic bomb!
Ansiiis The Trustworthy We Pay The Iron Price 391	Posted - 2013.11.13 21:20:00 - [75] - Quote Looking at the guys who say 1 kd/r is average I would say no. I have a petty kd/r of 4.04 which is kind of bad for a slayer but I ussualy play solo and can still go toe to toe with some good players.
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 89	Posted - 2013.11.13 21:27:00 - [76] - Quote Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: Looking at the guys who say 1 kd/r is average I would say no. I have a petty kd/r of 4.04 which is kind of bad for a slayer but I ussualy play solo and can still go toe to toe with some good players. "Average" is not a subjective and/or opinionated word! It's a mathematical word and *the average KDR is less than one!* The not logic bomb!
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 427	Posted - 2013.11.13 21:31:00 - [77] - Quote I would say below average, but then I go in game and I see that I must be average. Also, I looked at my KDR when I was trying to figure out how to look at my character sheet again and was surprised as all hell when I saw that it was actually above a one. That blew my mind.
Soldiersaint Deepspace Digital 584	Posted - 2013.11.13 21:47:00 - [78] - Quote Im beyond below average. That goes for every video game ive ever played in my life . I always like to play the supporting role. Medic,Engineer etc. Even though im not good at playing I still have fun win or lose. After all if your not having fun then why are you even playing?
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1083	Posted - 2013.11.13 22:01:00 - [79] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: I am, not afraid to admit it either, sure as hell not one of the best players out there in dust just an slightly above average scrub. Wouldn't even class myself as one of the better scouts in the game. I'm that guy who takes a proto scout suit into the half of a battle everyone else has given up on and goes 30-17 like a fool. Just a hard working scrub that tries his best in his role. So are you? I am the logi version of this, only I'd end up going 15-19-22. Fake edit: By logi, I mean somewhere between the AR Assport tryhard and the "no worries massah, I be right here with my rep tool just fo' you massah" I run Sidearm primary 99.9% of the time so I am either creeping on you or charging you like a madman dumping my gun into you and spamming R3. I do my best to support my squad/team with strategic uplinks and hives, I nearly always have my Wiyrkomi injector fitted (in fact, if I have an injector fitted it is ALWAYS a Wiyrkomi, I can't stand the walmart rezzers). I am a battlefield facilitator who will aggressively defend my chosen home/ward. If all of this makes me a scrub, then I am proud to be a scrub. IMHO, it is infinitely better than being one of the circlejerking protobear, epeeners that think their "m4d Sk!11z" actually means anything in the grand scheme of things. I be so l33t cause I call my mix of ADD and early onset Parkinsons "gun game" yo. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 92	Posted - 2013.11.13 22:13:00 - [80] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: I do my best to support my squad/team with strategic uplinks and hives, I nearly always have my Wiyrkomi injector fitted (in fact, if I have an injector fitted it is ALWAYS a Wiyrkomi, I can't stand the walmart rezzers). You're the first person I've ever seen to use the term "Wal-mart" without reference to MAG. I use standard needles because the higher tier ones cost too much CPU and PG. :( The not logic bomb!

Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 467	Posted - 2013.11.13 22:14:00 - [81] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Below average-average at best when it comes to killing, average-above average logi. That's me too, though I might even say I'm a good logi because I don't do things like pick guys up when I know they will be killed again, I look to use my rep tool first but most of the time realize I would be more help pulling out my gun. But I am a very average killer who stays around a 1 KDR
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10216	Posted - 2013.11.13 22:23:00 - [82] - Quote I consider myself an average casual. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier Specialist Current Theme \\= Advanced Scrambler Rifle =// Unlocked
Lightning Bolt2 From The Mist 344	Posted - 2013.11.13 22:25:00 - [83] - Quote I considered myself average until I went 14-3 in a NK ONLY HEAVY! Become a scout today -- and die in 0.1 *seconds!!!*
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1085	Posted - 2013.11.13 22:37:00 - [84] - Quote Marlin Kirby wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: I do my best to support my squad/team with strategic uplinks and hives, I nearly always have my Wiyrkomi injector fitted (in fact, if I have an injector fitted it is ALWAYS a Wiyrkomi, I can't stand the walmart rezzers). You're the first person I've ever seen to use the term "Wal-mart" without reference to MAG. I use standard needles because the higher tier ones cost too much CPU and PG. :( Hey Capt.... Tell Stylie you found his orthopedic shoes, I am right here and not going anywhere. Damn Simpsons references.... I really miss the gif battles..... Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 93	Posted - 2013.11.13 22:40:00 - [85] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Marlin Kirby wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: I do my best to support my squad/team with strategic uplinks and hives, I nearly always have my Wiyrkomi injector fitted (in fact, if I have an injector fitted it is ALWAYS a Wiyrkomi, I can't stand the walmart rezzers). You're the first person I've ever seen to use the term "Wal-mart" without reference to MAG. I use standard needles because the higher tier ones cost too much CPU and PG. :( Hey Capt.... Tell Stylie you found his orthopedic shoes, I am right here and not going anywhere. Damn Simpsons references.... I really miss the gif battles..... Alyoyo? Is that you? I DON'T KNOW! The not logic bomb!
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 694	Posted - 2013.11.13 22:44:00 - [86] - Quote Based on my KDR, I am solidly below average. Based on my typical ranking in matches and WP, I am about average. In terms of my "leet" opponents in-game, my handicap of 2 standard or militia pistols, no aim assist, and using a standard scout suit 99% of the time, I would consider myself above-average. mmmm..... perspective.... it's all relative.
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 510	Posted - 2013.11.13 22:51:00 - [87] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: I am, not afraid to admit it either, sure as hell not one of the best players out there in dust just an slightly above average scrub. Wouldn't even class myself as one of the better scouts in the game. I'm that guy who takes a proto scout suit into the half of a battle everyone else has given up on and goes 30-17 like a fool. Just a hard working scrub that tries his best in his role. So are you? i'm a scrub that evolves constantly 100% scout that went from a .28 kd and dug my way out to a 1.70 kd and climbing with 20k + kills people like us play with others and dont judge even when we get to the 30+ kills a game we invite all level of players to our squads and try to help them with usefull tips and tricks we dont let our ego get in the way of the fun were having while playing dust we dont pad our stats and kd and we dont run from 2 vs1 even against proto i'm a deadly scrub with some good gun game SOONGäó
Azri Sarum BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 118	Posted - 2013.11.14 00:55:00 - [88] - Quote I see people batting around KDR's but I think its a poor metric for determining player effectiveness / skill. Is a scout below average because they went 9 / 10 in a domination where they cleared out every enemy spawn pad? Is a sniper 'uber leet' by going 15/0? Are you comparing your KRD to people running full proto when you are rocking STD with a smattering of ADV modules? If so, why on earth would you do that? Just figured people should think about this some. There are a bunch of factors that work against your KRD, things like choosing to use lower tier suits/modules, not having as many SP as proto players, etc. These are all things that reduce your KDR independant of your actual skill. EVE - Victor Maximus DUST - Azri Sarum
Aqua-Regia 560	Posted - 2013.11.14 01:01:00 - [89] - Quote I AFK so I'm a greatly below average scrub. GòöGòºGòºGòºGòºGòºGòºGòùGöÉGòôBPO / BPC Collector Gòû Gòó *SoonGäó* GòáGò¬Gò¬GòºGòñGòñGò¬GòñGòºGòºGòñGòªGò¬GòñGò¬GòªGòºGò¼GòínoneGòPGûá GòÜGòñGòñGòñGòñGòñGòñGò¥Dust 514 GòPGò¢§GòÆGòú00GòáGòòGòÜGòí00GòPGò¢
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 94	Posted - 2013.11.14 01:02:00 - [90] - Quote Azri Sarum wrote: I see people batting around KDR's but I think its a poor metric for determining player effectiveness / skill. Is a scout below average because they went 9 / 10 in a domination where they cleared out every enemy spawn pad? Is a sniper 'uber leet' by going 15/0? Are you comparing your KRD to people running full proto when you are rocking STD with a smattering of ADV modules? If so, why on earth would you do that? Just figured people should think about this some. There are a bunch of factors that work against your KRD, things like choosing to use lower tier suits/modules, not having as many SP as proto players, etc. These are all things that reduce your KDR independant of your actual skill. I bet you already know this because you play EVE, but the best way to do it in the game is by ISK efficiency. Since we don't have a stat for that in Dust (yet) we can't go by it. The not logic bomb!

Cosgar ParagonX 7741	Posted - 2013.11.14 01:02:00 - [91] - Quote Vinsarrow wrote: Average is a illusion as well as the term normal Not really. Everything in life has a Mendoza line. Just don't have one for Dust 514 yet. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
ACE OF JOKERS AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 6	Posted - 2013.11.14 01:13:00 - [92] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: I am, not afraid to admit it either, sure as hell not one of the best players out there in dust just an slightly above average scrub. Wouldn't even class myself as one of the better scouts in the game. I'm that guy who takes a proto scout suit into the half of a battle everyone else has given up on and goes 30-17 like a fool. Just a hard working scrub that tries his best in his role. So are you? With a 3 K-D ratio , 95% times playing ALONE or Mentoring players in my Corp (sadly i dont squad up with GOOD squads almost never...), id say im a slightly above average player. (Its King Checkmate BTW)
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1085	Posted - 2013.11.14 02:23:00 - [93] - Quote Marlin Kirby wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: Marlin Kirby wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: I do my best to support my squad/team with strategic uplinks and hives, I nearly always have my Wiyrkomi injector fitted (in fact, if I have an injector fitted it is ALWAYS a Wiyrkomi, I can't stand the walmart rezzers). You're the first person I've ever seen to use the term "Wal-mart" without reference to MAG. I use standard needles because the higher tier ones cost too much CPU and PG. :( Hey Capt.... Tell Stylie you found his orthopedic shoes, I am right here and not going anywhere. Damn Simpsons references.... I really miss the gif battles..... Alyoyo? Is that you? I DON'T KNOW! LOL, nope, I just watched the gif battles, I never participated. Here's a hint: "NERDS!!!!!!!!" Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 95	Posted - 2013.11.14 02:51:00 - [94] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Marlin Kirby wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: Hey Capt.... Tell Stylie you found his orthopedic shoes, I am right here and not going anywhere. Damn Simpsons references.... I really miss the gif battles..... Alyoyo? Is that you? I DON'T KNOW! LOL, nope, I just watched the gif battles, I never participated. Here's a hint: "NERDS!!!!!!!!" ORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!! I had to look up "orthopedic shoes" because "nerds" was too broad. Hehe, at least you're a lady now. The not logic bomb!
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 932	Posted - 2013.11.14 02:52:00 - [95] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: I don't know what average is. players better than me are above me and players worse than me are below me so in my mind I will always be "the middle" regardless of the middle's location. 10 mill sp proto capable 3000 - 4000 kills 1.3 KDR WP per match 800ish 1k+ in a good game. am I average? By those standards I'm slightly above average. Except for K/D. I blame that on me trying to run and gun everytime I got into a firefight. But yeah of all things. K/D does not equate skill. Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Azri Sarum BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 120	Posted - 2013.11.14 03:07:00 - [96] - Quote Marlin Kirby wrote: I bet you already know this because you play EVE, but the best way to do it in the game is by ISK efficiency. Since we don't have a stat for that in Dust (yet) we can't go by it. Yea, thats the stat we really need. Hopefully they will add it sooner or later. I think it would be really nice for the new players and those who have posted in this thread. We might have average gun games, but if we lose 50k in a match but drop 500k of proto... EVE - Victor Maximus DUST - Azri Sarum
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 1443	Posted - 2013.11.14 03:08:00 - [97] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: I am, not afraid to admit it either, sure as hell not one of the best players out there in dust just an slightly above average scrub. Wouldn't even class myself as one of the better scouts in the game. I'm that guy who takes a proto scout suit into the half of a battle everyone else has given up on and goes 30-17 like a fool. Just a hard working scrub that tries his best in his role. So are you? You're actually really good, for a Scout that is ö/\ö :D
VAHZZ The dyst0pian Corporation 209	Posted - 2013.11.14 03:09:00 - [98] - Quote i am way above average...I AM INSAAAAAAAANE!!! The merc with a mouth - beware of random bouts of insanity!
Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits 244	Posted - 2013.11.14 03:29:00 - [99] - Quote Would like to claim above average, but probably a touch bellow average. They say the truth hurts, and they were right :...-(
Aizen Intiki Hell's Gate Inc 555	Posted - 2013.11.14 03:36:00 - [100] - Quote Lightning Bolt2 wrote: I considered myself average until I went 14-3 in a NK ONLY HEAVY! [EDIT] I don't think I'm average bcause I pull out dropships with the intention of crushing people, pulled out a thale just to no-scope, speed tank heavys (as fast as a assault ), and a ton of other reasons although before 1.4 I was average dedicated to running a scout with NKs ARs and REs. [EDIT] slightly above a 2.0 K/D still somehow ! Lightning, umm just a note: Don't jump into a crowd of people when I'm on the field. Just sayin



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