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True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4119	Posted - 2013.11.13 18:40:00 - [61] - Quote I'd like to think that before I quit I was doing pretty well as a rookie tanker. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1751	Posted - 2013.11.13 18:56:00 - [62] - Quote Thor McStrut wrote: Seeing some of you in here who claim average, or above average, that makes me bottom of the barrel. I nearly always finish in the middle of the team (6-10), unless I'm having a bad game, then I'm in the bottom 5. The rare games I'm in the top 5, means there was something wrong with the rest of the blueberries. Hey, it gets better. You'll learn the tricks to doing well that aren't entirely obvious. I don't know what you're specced into, but having a level one logi fit is really handy for farming SP. This also let's you learn some tactics that let you read the ebb and flow of the battle a little bit more. constantly having +x points pop up for support action means you are learning where to be in a fight. you can take those lessons and apply them to your slayer fits. There is really no reason that anyone who uses a medium frame to not be able to run a standard level logi. Even if you're going for Assault you'll have all the pre-reqs for running a decent logi of that race. All you need to do is spec level one and toss some equipment on there.
Quil Evrything DUST University Ivy League 375	Posted - 2013.11.13 19:29:00 - [63] - Quote A mathematical interruption for all the "am I average/ am I not average" introspection: When it comes to your kills, your KDR is a zero-sum game. For you to be doing well, someone else has to be doing not well. Or at least, not as well as you. So if your KDR at the end of a game is >1.0, then you were "above average" for the players in that game. This is separate from your 1-16 ranking.
Awry Barux Xer Cloud Consortium 310	Posted - 2013.11.13 19:35:00 - [64] - Quote I vary anywhere between 1/10 and 10/2 depending on level of intoxication. Integrate over intoxication and I end up being pretty much average to slightly above average (overall k/d between 1-1.5).
Vinsarrow New Eden Blades Of The Azure 77	Posted - 2013.11.13 19:45:00 - [65] - Quote Average is a illusion as well as the term normal
Awesome Pantaloons Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 147	Posted - 2013.11.13 20:06:00 - [66] - Quote I wondered for a while if I was average. This thread has made me realize that I am indeed above average. :D Thanks for the confidence boost suckers! Ah, I'm just kidding with you guys. I'm impressed that you are sticking around and having fun even if you aren't completely dominating. A round of applause to you all! Unless you're a dirty Minmatar heathen... then you need to just gtfo. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited." -The Code of Demeanor
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 89	Posted - 2013.11.13 20:08:00 - [67] - Quote Quil Evrything wrote: A mathematical interruption for all the "am I average/ am I not average" introspection: When it comes to your kills, your KDR is a zero-sum game. For you to be doing well, someone else has to be doing not well. Or at least, not as well as you. So if your KDR at the end of a game is >1.0, then you were "above average" for the players in that game. This is separate from your 1-16 ranking. The average KDR in most shooters is less than 1. Vinsarrow wrote: Average is a illusion as well as the term normal "Average" is mathematical term, but it's been bastardized by people of the internet who don't know what is means. For those who don't know, average means the sum of everything in a variable divided by the number of numbers. Sample: 3,3,3,3,3 3+3+3+3+3=15 15/5=3 The average is 3 Sample: 1,2,3,4,5 1+2+3+4+5=15 15/5=3 The average is 3 Sample: 3,6,7,23,8 3+6+7+23+8=47 47/5=9.4 The average is 9.4 You should have learned this in third grade. The not logic bomb!
XEROO COOL Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 110	Posted - 2013.11.13 20:11:00 - [68] - Quote I am a meat popsicle. Everyone has a plan until you punch em in the face! (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles. 2904	Posted - 2013.11.13 20:11:00 - [69] - Quote I'm pretty bad. Below avg I'd say GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 2
1st Lieutenant Tiberius 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 463	Posted - 2013.11.13 20:13:00 - [70] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: I'm pretty bad. Below avg I'd say As another below average player, I can confirm this statement The Sinwarden

XEROO COOL Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 110	Posted - 2013.11.13 20:14:00 - [71] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: I'm pretty bad. Below avg I'd say (-.(-.(-.-).-).-) Chinese mafia agrees with you! Everyone has a plan until you punch em in the face! (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
Justice Prevails 82	Posted - 2013.11.13 20:18:00 - [72] - Quote Maybe average. I get my share of top 3 finishes, but as a lonewolf, I am usually on a team of randoms. My kdr is on the rise from the dark depths of my first couple months. I think a pro coach once said that you are only as good as your last game. That's why I always go to bed on a good one. Whatever my skill level, probably hit my ceiling, being 40 and all. That's ok, as long as the bills are being paid, life is good.:-) Great job, team. Head back to the MCC for debriefing and cocktails.
Robocop Junior The Surrogates Of War 348	Posted - 2013.11.13 20:24:00 - [73] - Quote It's ok to be average since at least 50% of every game's playerbase are just horrendous.
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 89	Posted - 2013.11.13 20:33:00 - [74] - Quote Robocop Junior wrote: It's ok to be average since at least 50% of every game's playerbase are just horrendous. When it comes to KDR, most players are terrible or a small minority is really good. Depends on your perspective. The not logic bomb!
Ansiiis The Trustworthy We Pay The Iron Price 391	Posted - 2013.11.13 21:20:00 - [75] - Quote Looking at the guys who say 1 kd/r is average I would say no. I have a petty kd/r of 4.04 which is kind of bad for a slayer but I ussualy play solo and can still go toe to toe with some good players.
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 89	Posted - 2013.11.13 21:27:00 - [76] - Quote Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: Looking at the guys who say 1 kd/r is average I would say no. I have a petty kd/r of 4.04 which is kind of bad for a slayer but I ussualy play solo and can still go toe to toe with some good players. "Average" is not a subjective and/or opinionated word! It's a mathematical word and *the average KDR is less than one!* The not logic bomb!
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 427	Posted - 2013.11.13 21:31:00 - [77] - Quote I would say below average, but then I go in game and I see that I must be average. Also, I looked at my KDR when I was trying to figure out how to look at my character sheet again and was surprised as all hell when I saw that it was actually above a one. That blew my mind.
Soldiersaint Deepspace Digital 584	Posted - 2013.11.13 21:47:00 - [78] - Quote Im beyond below average. That goes for every video game ive ever played in my life . I always like to play the supporting role. Medic,Engineer etc. Even though im not good at playing I still have fun win or lose. After all if your not having fun then why are you even playing?
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1083	Posted - 2013.11.13 22:01:00 - [79] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: I am, not afraid to admit it either, sure as hell not one of the best players out there in dust just an slightly above average scrub. Wouldn't even class myself as one of the better scouts in the game. I'm that guy who takes a proto scout suit into the half of a battle everyone else has given up on and goes 30-17 like a fool. Just a hard working scrub that tries his best in his role. So are you? I am the logi version of this, only I'd end up going 15-19-22. Fake edit: By logi, I mean somewhere between the AR Assport tryhard and the "no worries massah, I be right here with my rep tool just fo' you massah" I run Sidearm primary 99.9% of the time so I am either creeping on you or charging you like a madman dumping my gun into you and spamming R3. I do my best to support my squad/team with strategic uplinks and hives, I nearly always have my Wiyrkomi injector fitted (in fact, if I have an injector fitted it is ALWAYS a Wiyrkomi, I can't stand the walmart rezzers). I am a battlefield facilitator who will aggressively defend my chosen home/ward. If all of this makes me a scrub, then I am proud to be a scrub. IMHO, it is infinitely better than being one of the circlejerking protobear, epeeners that think their "m4d Sk!11z" actually means anything in the grand scheme of things. I be so l33t cause I call my mix of ADD and early onset Parkinsons "gun game" yo. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 92	Posted - 2013.11.13 22:13:00 - [80] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: I do my best to support my squad/team with strategic uplinks and hives, I nearly always have my Wiyrkomi injector fitted (in fact, if I have an injector fitted it is ALWAYS a Wiyrkomi, I can't stand the walmart rezzers). You're the first person I've ever seen to use the term "Wal-mart" without reference to MAG. I use standard needles because the higher tier ones cost too much CPU and PG. :( The not logic bomb!

Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 467	Posted - 2013.11.13 22:14:00 - [81] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Below average-average at best when it comes to killing, average-above average logi. That's me too, though I might even say I'm a good logi because I don't do things like pick guys up when I know they will be killed again, I look to use my rep tool first but most of the time realize I would be more help pulling out my gun. But I am a very average killer who stays around a 1 KDR
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10216	Posted - 2013.11.13 22:23:00 - [82] - Quote I consider myself an average casual. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier Specialist Current Theme \\= Advanced Scrambler Rifle =// Unlocked
Lightning Bolt2 From The Mist 344	Posted - 2013.11.13 22:25:00 - [83] - Quote I considered myself average until I went 14-3 in a NK ONLY HEAVY! Become a scout today -- and die in 0.1 *seconds!!!*
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1085	Posted - 2013.11.13 22:37:00 - [84] - Quote Marlin Kirby wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: I do my best to support my squad/team with strategic uplinks and hives, I nearly always have my Wiyrkomi injector fitted (in fact, if I have an injector fitted it is ALWAYS a Wiyrkomi, I can't stand the walmart rezzers). You're the first person I've ever seen to use the term "Wal-mart" without reference to MAG. I use standard needles because the higher tier ones cost too much CPU and PG. :( Hey Capt.... Tell Stylie you found his orthopedic shoes, I am right here and not going anywhere. Damn Simpsons references.... I really miss the gif battles..... Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 93	Posted - 2013.11.13 22:40:00 - [85] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Marlin Kirby wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: I do my best to support my squad/team with strategic uplinks and hives, I nearly always have my Wiyrkomi injector fitted (in fact, if I have an injector fitted it is ALWAYS a Wiyrkomi, I can't stand the walmart rezzers). You're the first person I've ever seen to use the term "Wal-mart" without reference to MAG. I use standard needles because the higher tier ones cost too much CPU and PG. :( Hey Capt.... Tell Stylie you found his orthopedic shoes, I am right here and not going anywhere. Damn Simpsons references.... I really miss the gif battles..... Alyoyo? Is that you? I DON'T KNOW! The not logic bomb!
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 694	Posted - 2013.11.13 22:44:00 - [86] - Quote Based on my KDR, I am solidly below average. Based on my typical ranking in matches and WP, I am about average. In terms of my "leet" opponents in-game, my handicap of 2 standard or militia pistols, no aim assist, and using a standard scout suit 99% of the time, I would consider myself above-average. mmmm..... perspective.... it's all relative.
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 510	Posted - 2013.11.13 22:51:00 - [87] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: I am, not afraid to admit it either, sure as hell not one of the best players out there in dust just an slightly above average scrub. Wouldn't even class myself as one of the better scouts in the game. I'm that guy who takes a proto scout suit into the half of a battle everyone else has given up on and goes 30-17 like a fool. Just a hard working scrub that tries his best in his role. So are you? i'm a scrub that evolves constantly 100% scout that went from a .28 kd and dug my way out to a 1.70 kd and climbing with 20k + kills people like us play with others and dont judge even when we get to the 30+ kills a game we invite all level of players to our squads and try to help them with usefull tips and tricks we dont let our ego get in the way of the fun were having while playing dust we dont pad our stats and kd and we dont run from 2 vs1 even against proto i'm a deadly scrub with some good gun game SOONGäó
Azri Sarum BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 118	Posted - 2013.11.14 00:55:00 - [88] - Quote I see people batting around KDR's but I think its a poor metric for determining player effectiveness / skill. Is a scout below average because they went 9 / 10 in a domination where they cleared out every enemy spawn pad? Is a sniper 'uber leet' by going 15/0? Are you comparing your KRD to people running full proto when you are rocking STD with a smattering of ADV modules? If so, why on earth would you do that? Just figured people should think about this some. There are a bunch of factors that work against your KRD, things like choosing to use lower tier suits/modules, not having as many SP as proto players, etc. These are all things that reduce your KDR independant of your actual skill. EVE - Victor Maximus DUST - Azri Sarum
Aqua-Regia 560	Posted - 2013.11.14 01:01:00 - [89] - Quote I AFK so I'm a greatly below average scrub. GòöGòºGòºGòºGòºGòºGòºGòùGöÉGòôBPO / BPC Collector Gòû Gòó *SoonGäó* GòáGò¬Gò¬GòºGòñGòñGò¬GòñGòºGòºGòñGòªGò¬GòñGò¬GòªGòºGò¼GòínoneGòPGûá GòÜGòñGòñGòñGòñGòñGòñGò¥Dust 514 GòPGò¢§GòÆGòú00GòáGòòGòÜGòí00GòPGò¢
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 94	Posted - 2013.11.14 01:02:00 - [90] - Quote Azri Sarum wrote: I see people batting around KDR's but I think its a poor metric for determining player effectiveness / skill. Is a scout below average because they went 9 / 10 in a domination where they cleared out every enemy spawn pad? Is a sniper 'uber leet' by going 15/0? Are you comparing your KRD to people running full proto when you are rocking STD with a smattering of ADV modules? If so, why on earth would you do that? Just figured people should think about this some. There are a bunch of factors that work against your KRD, things like choosing to use lower tier suits/modules, not having as many SP as proto players, etc. These are all things that reduce your KDR independant of your actual skill. I bet you already know this because you play EVE, but the best way to do it in the game is by ISK efficiency. Since we don't have a stat for that in Dust (yet) we can't go by it. The not logic bomb!



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