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Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.11.13 04:18:00 -
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According to the rules of PFC, no outside corporation of PFC can take a district on the planet without notifying and authorization from the people in charge of PFC.
The attacking corp cannot have more than 150 clones to attack, no outside corporation can stage all out fights (proto) in PFC since it is only for training unless both sides agree to it.
No outside corp can flip a district on PFC without authorization from those in charge, no outside corporation may move clones to attack a district on the planet.
Both corporations involved in an attack on PFC must be in communications with each other so there can be organized training matches or organized district flips.
There is a corporation in PFC that does not belong on the planet that took a district without abiding by the rules last night.
Knights of the Round is attempting to retake the PFC district SVER illegally took in attempt to keep everything in order.
If we fail at retaking the district, we would like for those in charge of PFC to aid in doing so.
If its requested, i and a few others have proof of the illegal actions taken by SVER true blood during the fight.
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Gods Architect
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
926
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Posted - 2013.11.13 04:53:00 -
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Sver has been badly beaten, they are no longer a superpower and stomping them now is not fair or fun. The PFC specifics on what kind of corp can join PFC is shady and undefined at best. This "illegal" action will be dealt with but understand that R* is trying to burn PFC and at the moment full attention is being paid to them. If able the superpowers will divert assistance to this cause. Hold tight.
I created Heaven and Hell I am God's Architect
Dust Illuminati soldier
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ritslight umarn
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
172
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Posted - 2013.11.13 06:11:00 -
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:o me no understand you?
can me have polish translaitor?
lvl 5 random guy
lvl 3 thumb wiggler
Let the bacon commence!
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Heimdallr69
Imperfect Bastards
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Posted - 2013.11.13 06:48:00 -
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STB was a superpower? Woah I must have been high for a while
I'm everyone's type
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Hawkin P
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
303
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Posted - 2013.11.13 06:52:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:According to the rules of PFC, no outside corporation of PFC can take a district on the planet without notifying and authorization from the people in charge of PFC.
The attacking corp cannot have more than 150 clones to attack, no outside corporation can stage all out fights (proto) in PFC since it is only for training unless both sides agree to it.
No outside corp can flip a district on PFC without authorization from those in charge, no outside corporation may move clones to attack a district on the planet.
Both corporations involved in an attack on PFC must be in communications with each other so there can be organized training matches or organized district flips.
There is a corporation in PFC that does not belong on the planet that took a district without abiding by the rules last night.
Knights of the Round is attempting to retake the PFC district SVER illegally took in attempt to keep everything in order.
If we fail at retaking the district, we would like for those in charge of PFC to aid in doing so.
If its requested, i and a few others have proof of the illegal actions taken by SVER true blood during the fight.
AE Broke PFC, come on man pay attention. |
Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.11.13 06:58:00 -
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Hawkin P wrote:Void Echo wrote:According to the rules of PFC, no outside corporation of PFC can take a district on the planet without notifying and authorization from the people in charge of PFC.
The attacking corp cannot have more than 150 clones to attack, no outside corporation can stage all out fights (proto) in PFC since it is only for training unless both sides agree to it.
No outside corp can flip a district on PFC without authorization from those in charge, no outside corporation may move clones to attack a district on the planet.
Both corporations involved in an attack on PFC must be in communications with each other so there can be organized training matches or organized district flips.
There is a corporation in PFC that does not belong on the planet that took a district without abiding by the rules last night.
Knights of the Round is attempting to retake the PFC district SVER illegally took in attempt to keep everything in order.
If we fail at retaking the district, we would like for those in charge of PFC to aid in doing so.
If its requested, i and a few others have proof of the illegal actions taken by SVER true blood during the fight. AE Broke PFC, come on man pay attention.
Need to talk...
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ritslight umarn
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
172
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Posted - 2013.11.13 07:03:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:STB was a superpower? Woah I must have been high for a while
yeah you should of seen us we was like superman, like pow
lvl 5 random guy
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Let the bacon commence!
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MICKY KNOCKS
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
69
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Posted - 2013.11.13 07:37:00 -
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Gods Architect wrote:Sver has been badly beaten, they are no longer a superpower and stomping them now is not fair or fun. The PFC specifics on what kind of corp can join PFC is shady and undefined at best. This "illegal" action will be dealt with but understand that R* is trying to burn PFC and at the moment full attention is being paid to them. If able the superpowers will divert assistance to this cause. Hold tight.
The dispute with Red Star has been worked out, and they are no longer "trying to burn PFC", and PFC does have established rules, so any Corp that has violated them should be held accountable.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
2090
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Posted - 2013.11.13 09:53:00 -
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This PFC thing has become a joke anyway....Nyain San has two districts on Oddeldulf as if that complies with the ideology of planet fight club. |
ragewardog
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
87
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Posted - 2013.11.13 10:48:00 -
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we did not brake pfc, see I sent 200 clones to fight 450 cause I wanted to give my guys 2 good fights however I told them fight hard give them your best cause well we don't like kotr.. I didn't think kotr sucked so bad that they wouldn't win the fight when they had 450 vs 200 and only cost us 121 clones of the 200 lol anyway I was going to give it bac when I got home from work which you can do we have done this before, but some smart corp attacked it before I could ''kotr'' so I don't no what to tell them take if you can or just give it to them lol... |
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Ekrano Fergus
Molon Labe PC
RISE of LEGION
16
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Posted - 2013.11.13 11:17:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:This PFC thing has become a joke anyway....Nyain San has two districts on Oddeldulf as if that complies with the ideology of planet fight club.
They have Three now.
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iTbagyou
Red Star.
EoN.
113
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Posted - 2013.11.13 11:52:00 -
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Gods Architect wrote:Sver has been badly beaten, they are no longer a superpower and stomping them now is not fair or fun. The PFC specifics on what kind of corp can join PFC is shady and undefined at best. This "illegal" action will be dealt with but understand that R* is trying to burn PFC and at the moment full attention is being paid to them. If able the superpowers will divert assistance to this cause. Hold tight.
We are, interesting theory considering we returned the district to dystopia. Lets hear some more theories. |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
1391
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Posted - 2013.11.13 12:03:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:This PFC thing has become a joke anyway....Nyain San has two districts on Oddeldulf as if that complies with the ideology of planet fight club.
The fact it exists proves how much of a joke pc is.
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Minmatar and Gallente fw.
Fix PC lag please CCP.
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Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.11.13 12:21:00 -
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ragewardog wrote:we did not brake pfc, see I sent 200 clones to fight 450 cause I wanted to give my guys 2 good fights however I told them fight hard give them your best cause well we don't like kotr.. I didn't think kotr sucked so bad that they wouldn't win the fight when they had 450 vs 200 and only cost us 121 clones of the 200 lol anyway I was going to give it bac when I got home from work which you can do we have done this before, but some smart corp attacked it before I could ''kotr'' so I don't no what to tell them take if you can or just give it to them lol...
by doing this you have broken several rules. cant attack with over 150 clones, both corps must be in communication with each other during the time, you did not attempt to communicate at all, its kinda sad that you attacked them for no reason, a top 10 corp attacking a ranked 81 corp in a non aggression zone for no reason with no communications between the 2 corps? fishy...
anyway see you at the fight.
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iTbagyou
Red Star.
EoN.
113
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Posted - 2013.11.13 12:21:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:This PFC thing has become a joke anyway....Nyain San has two districts on Oddeldulf as if that complies with the ideology of planet fight club. The fact it exists proves how much of a joke pc is.
I personally couldnt agree more. Training is essentially moot if you have nothing to lose. |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe PC
RISE of LEGION
1916
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Posted - 2013.11.13 12:45:00 -
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iTbagyou wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:This PFC thing has become a joke anyway....Nyain San has two districts on Oddeldulf as if that complies with the ideology of planet fight club. The fact it exists proves how much of a joke pc is. I personally couldnt agree more. Training is essentially moot if you have nothing to lose.
That is one of the dumbest things I've ever read. You should rethink that, take a deep breath and edit that.
There is literally nothing that people do where stakes are high that training isn't involved.
Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
1661
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Posted - 2013.11.13 12:57:00 -
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Ekrano Fergus wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:This PFC thing has become a joke anyway....Nyain San has two districts on Oddeldulf as if that complies with the ideology of planet fight club. They have Three now.
Good luck trying to get AE to boot there allies out of 2 districts |
CPL Bloodstone
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
176
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Posted - 2013.11.13 13:13:00 -
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Fact is Void Echo, you do not have a corp attached to your name, suggesting your a ringer, therefore Kotr broke the rules in hiring ringers and not informing STB of this. Tired of this consistant whining on the forums. Also, the fact that you do not have a corp under name means this entire thread is moot. Move along nothing to see here. Besides that, we were already planning on giving it back to Kotr. |
NAV HIV
The Generals
EoN.
525
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Posted - 2013.11.13 13:34:00 -
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Gods Architect wrote:Sver has been badly beaten, they are no longer a superpower and stomping them now is not fair or fun. The PFC specifics on what kind of corp can join PFC is shady and undefined at best. This "illegal" action will be dealt with but understand that R* is trying to burn PFC and at the moment full attention is being paid to them. If able the superpowers will divert assistance to this cause. Hold tight.
Correct me if i'm wrong, is Pradox of all Corps calling STB weak?! Lmfao |
iTbagyou
Red Star.
EoN.
113
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Posted - 2013.11.13 13:34:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:iTbagyou wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:This PFC thing has become a joke anyway....Nyain San has two districts on Oddeldulf as if that complies with the ideology of planet fight club. The fact it exists proves how much of a joke pc is. I personally couldnt agree more. Training is essentially moot if you have nothing to lose. That is one of the dumbest things I've ever read. You should rethink that, take a deep breath and edit that. There is literally nothing that people do where stakes are high that training isn't involved.
No thanks, ill stick with my statement. |
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Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.11.13 13:41:00 -
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CPL Bloodstone wrote:Fact is Void Echo, you do not have a corp attached to your name, suggesting your a ringer, therefore Kotr broke the rules in hiring ringers and not informing STB of this. Tired of this consistant whining on the forums. Also, the fact that you do not have a corp under name means this entire thread is moot. Move along nothing to see here. Besides that, we were already planning on giving it back to Kotr.
like I said, there is proof that you broke the rules, we did not
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SoLJae
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.11.13 13:55:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Ekrano Fergus wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:This PFC thing has become a joke anyway....Nyain San has two districts on Oddeldulf as if that complies with the ideology of planet fight club. They have Three now. Good luck trying to get AE to boot there allies out of 2 districts
For sure, for sure.
AE's attempts at being the "policeman" of PFC might seem a little more respectable, if they were unbiased with their enforcement.
The fact is that Nyain San scares the $hit out of them. They're a tiger that they don't want to tangle with.
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CPL Bloodstone
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
177
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Posted - 2013.11.13 14:09:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:CPL Bloodstone wrote:Fact is Void Echo, you do not have a corp attached to your name, suggesting your a ringer, therefore Kotr broke the rules in hiring ringers and not informing STB of this. Tired of this consistant whining on the forums. Also, the fact that you do not have a corp under name means this entire thread is moot. Move along nothing to see here. Besides that, we were already planning on giving it back to Kotr. like I said, there is proof that you broke the rules, we did not
Where is Violent Priors? Where is anyone from Kotr? Why is Void Echo doing this when you were tagged with Kotr and now you are not? There is the fact everyone see's. Not you claiming we broke the rules.
Anyway, it is our intent to let Kotr win the re-attack. We are sending in our new guys to get some pc training. Not our A team. Please try to win Violent priors. if you cannot, we will sit in the MCC for you. So you can.
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Roman837
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
8
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Posted - 2013.11.13 14:25:00 -
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KOTR has shown up in many fights "ringing" rather filling in spots against us and our allies in PC fights. MH has become one big Red and Blue Donut, Districts are locked or on crazy times or constantly under attack by corps alts. KOTRs district had 450 clones..and was ONLINE for multiple days, why were they not using PFC as its intended? They are farming it. We wanted a PC fight and saw the oppertunity, we only launched 200 clones because we wanted it to be competitive. No one would have thought we were going to flip it. We have many members in our corp who are new and owning a district on PFC would benifit them greatly, we also, would never lock it, and we would only put our newer guys in it. Its funny that people can exspect to ring against us, or pay others to ring against us, and then ***** when we go after the only thing they own. I will FC the PC vs KOTR, I will only bring 3 other trainers. The rest of the guys we will field will be members who have expressed an interest to fight in them. We do no expect to win, just to teach them some pointers. As Bloodstone stated., if you still cannot get it back...we will hold it for you..and keep fielding our guys In need of training. Is that not what PFC is for? Training? Well, perfect we are willing to have a training fight with you. |
Zatara Rought
Imperfects
1659
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Posted - 2013.11.13 14:42:00 -
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Gods Architect wrote:Sver has been badly beaten, they are no longer a superpower and stomping them now is not fair or fun. The PFC specifics on what kind of corp can join PFC is shady and undefined at best. This "illegal" action will be dealt with but understand that R* is trying to burn PFC and at the moment full attention is being paid to them. If able the superpowers will divert assistance to this cause. Hold tight.
R* as publicly apologized for attacking PFC districts with intents of conquest. Unless you can furnish proof otherwise they are no longer in violation of PFC and returned the dyst0pian corps district without contest.
That's Master nader to you scrub.
Skype me @ Zatara.Rought
CCP's Motto: "SoonGäó"
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe PC
RISE of LEGION
1918
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Posted - 2013.11.13 14:47:00 -
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iTbagyou wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:iTbagyou wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:This PFC thing has become a joke anyway....Nyain San has two districts on Oddeldulf as if that complies with the ideology of planet fight club. The fact it exists proves how much of a joke pc is. I personally couldnt agree more. Training is essentially moot if you have nothing to lose. That is one of the dumbest things I've ever read. You should rethink that, take a deep breath and edit that. There is literally nothing that people do where stakes are high that training isn't involved. No thanks, ill stick with my statement.
So you believe that the only place to train is in live action with all the marbles on the table?
I can literally think of no scenario where people do not train before endeavoring into something where the stakes are high.
Care to offer an example? I mean CCP has given us literally ZERO ways to team deploy other than PC. Right now PC has perhaps 1-5% of the playerbase involved. Do you think that might change if we were to have the old corp battle mode back?
PFC is the only thing close to this. If you don't like the idea behind PFC then you flat out don't like the idea of having a vibrant Molden Heath with lots of fighting.
I'd venture to say that the success people have in PC comes from the experience they gathered in beta fighting in lots of corp battles. I don't think PFC is going to change this anytime soon, but it does give corps a way to show their lower SP players what they have to do. It gives some validity to their statements about how to skill and the importance of specialization and teamwork if they want to be successful in PC.
To argue this only shows a person to be stubborn to a fault or a troll.
Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
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Void Echo
2134
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Posted - 2013.11.13 14:48:00 -
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CPL Bloodstone wrote:Void Echo wrote:CPL Bloodstone wrote:Fact is Void Echo, you do not have a corp attached to your name, suggesting your a ringer, therefore Kotr broke the rules in hiring ringers and not informing STB of this. Tired of this consistant whining on the forums. Also, the fact that you do not have a corp under name means this entire thread is moot. Move along nothing to see here. Besides that, we were already planning on giving it back to Kotr. like I said, there is proof that you broke the rules, we did not Where is Violent Priors? Where is anyone from Kotr? Why is Void Echo doing this when you were tagged with Kotr and now you are not? There is the fact everyone see's. Not you claiming we broke the rules. Anyway, it is our intent to let Kotr win the re-attack. We are sending in our new guys to get some pc training. Not our A team. Please try to win Violent priors. if you cannot, we will sit in the MCC for you. So you can.
we have video proof, also you should looked at the tags during the battle, if you didn't then your own fault.
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CPL Bloodstone
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
178
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Posted - 2013.11.13 15:00:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:CPL Bloodstone wrote:Void Echo wrote:CPL Bloodstone wrote:Fact is Void Echo, you do not have a corp attached to your name, suggesting your a ringer, therefore Kotr broke the rules in hiring ringers and not informing STB of this. Tired of this consistant whining on the forums. Also, the fact that you do not have a corp under name means this entire thread is moot. Move along nothing to see here. Besides that, we were already planning on giving it back to Kotr. like I said, there is proof that you broke the rules, we did not Where is Violent Priors? Where is anyone from Kotr? Why is Void Echo doing this when you were tagged with Kotr and now you are not? There is the fact everyone see's. Not you claiming we broke the rules. Anyway, it is our intent to let Kotr win the re-attack. We are sending in our new guys to get some pc training. Not our A team. Please try to win Violent priors. if you cannot, we will sit in the MCC for you. So you can. we have video proof, also you should looked at the tags during the battle, if you didn't then your own fault.
Tag switching is the same as ringing. Nice try Void, I respect you as a merc but its declining quickly. Fact again, you are not in Knights of the Round, therefore this entire thread is Void.
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Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.11.13 15:02:00 -
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CPL Bloodstone wrote:Void Echo wrote:CPL Bloodstone wrote:Void Echo wrote:CPL Bloodstone wrote:Fact is Void Echo, you do not have a corp attached to your name, suggesting your a ringer, therefore Kotr broke the rules in hiring ringers and not informing STB of this. Tired of this consistant whining on the forums. Also, the fact that you do not have a corp under name means this entire thread is moot. Move along nothing to see here. Besides that, we were already planning on giving it back to Kotr. like I said, there is proof that you broke the rules, we did not Where is Violent Priors? Where is anyone from Kotr? Why is Void Echo doing this when you were tagged with Kotr and now you are not? There is the fact everyone see's. Not you claiming we broke the rules. Anyway, it is our intent to let Kotr win the re-attack. We are sending in our new guys to get some pc training. Not our A team. Please try to win Violent priors. if you cannot, we will sit in the MCC for you. So you can. we have video proof, also you should looked at the tags during the battle, if you didn't then your own fault. Tag switching is the same as ringing. Nice try Void, I respect you as a merc but its declining quickly. Fact again, you are not in Knights of the Round, therefore this entire thread is Void.
lol actually I am in knights of the round, im in their corporation as of last week. nice try. also you do realize that you can make your tags disappear on the forums as well right? go to settings and do it.
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DJINN Rampage
Ancient Exiles.
724
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Posted - 2013.11.13 15:03:00 -
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CPL Bloodstone wrote:Void Echo wrote:CPL Bloodstone wrote:Void Echo wrote:CPL Bloodstone wrote:Fact is Void Echo, you do not have a corp attached to your name, suggesting your a ringer, therefore Kotr broke the rules in hiring ringers and not informing STB of this. Tired of this consistant whining on the forums. Also, the fact that you do not have a corp under name means this entire thread is moot. Move along nothing to see here. Besides that, we were already planning on giving it back to Kotr. like I said, there is proof that you broke the rules, we did not Where is Violent Priors? Where is anyone from Kotr? Why is Void Echo doing this when you were tagged with Kotr and now you are not? There is the fact everyone see's. Not you claiming we broke the rules. Anyway, it is our intent to let Kotr win the re-attack. We are sending in our new guys to get some pc training. Not our A team. Please try to win Violent priors. if you cannot, we will sit in the MCC for you. So you can. we have video proof, also you should looked at the tags during the battle, if you didn't then your own fault. Tag switching is the same as ringing. Nice try Void, I respect you as a merc but its declining quickly. Fact again, you are not in Knights of the Round, therefore this entire thread is Void.
i assure you this thread isn't void.
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CPL Bloodstone
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
178
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Posted - 2013.11.13 15:10:00 -
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i assure you this thread isn't void.
It was always our intent to give the district back to KOTR. Which we have stated publically and intend to do soon which is already set.
The fact is Djinn Rampage a representitive of KOTR is not present.
Where is AE with our claim on WTF?
Hrmm? I didn't hear anything back from you or Kujo on the matter. So , unless you come here B*tching to the masses, guess thats the only way to get this kind of thing worked out. Also, what about your Friends of Nyian san holding 3 districts on PFC? |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
1664
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Posted - 2013.11.13 15:11:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:
So you believe that the only place to train is in live action with all the marbles on the table?
I can literally think of no scenario where people do not train before endeavoring into something where the stakes are high.
Care to offer an example? I mean CCP has given us literally ZERO ways to team deploy other than PC. Right now PC has perhaps 1-5% of the playerbase involved. Do you think that might change if we were to have the old corp battle mode back?
PFC is the only thing close to this. If you don't like the idea behind PFC then you flat out don't like the idea of having a vibrant Molden Heath with lots of fighting.
I'd venture to say that the success people have in PC comes from the experience they gathered in beta fighting in lots of corp battles. I don't think PFC is going to change this anytime soon, but it does give corps a way to show their lower SP players what they have to do. It gives some validity to their statements about how to skill and the importance of specialization and teamwork if they want to be successful in PC.
To argue this only shows a person to be stubborn to a fault or a troll.
I believe that
Prior to me joining R* i had played in 0 corp battles in DUST, but i had done corp battles in other games so thats where my experience mostly comes from and its easily applied in other games
PFC is like a giant ball of wool and players muck about on it and maybe fight once a week while farming the other 6days
PFC is peaceful mostly and backed up by bigger corps who are supposed to keep balance (lolAE keeping balance while looking at Nyain San 3 districts lol)
Thing is tho 'war' isnt fair, they will hit you as much as possible and if you own 1 district thats easy to deal with but once you hit the higher numbers then it gets harder and harder to deal with because of overlapping timers for example or just timers when the corp isnt as active
Really how many games will it take for PFC corps to be good enough to join and compete with the rest of molden heath?
How long will it have to go on for? Will they ever be good enough to compete?
PFC is a farmville planet which isnt as active as it really should be and they have the fall back knowing that they will always have that district even if they lose, PC you lose you have a re up, you lose that you may have another re up or you lose the district on PFC it doesnt happen and you can contact the 'police' to sort it out
PFC is as far away from PC as it gets imo |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe PC
RISE of LEGION
1918
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Posted - 2013.11.13 15:42:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:
So you believe that the only place to train is in live action with all the marbles on the table?
I can literally think of no scenario where people do not train before endeavoring into something where the stakes are high.
Care to offer an example? I mean CCP has given us literally ZERO ways to team deploy other than PC. Right now PC has perhaps 1-5% of the playerbase involved. Do you think that might change if we were to have the old corp battle mode back?
PFC is the only thing close to this. If you don't like the idea behind PFC then you flat out don't like the idea of having a vibrant Molden Heath with lots of fighting.
I'd venture to say that the success people have in PC comes from the experience they gathered in beta fighting in lots of corp battles. I don't think PFC is going to change this anytime soon, but it does give corps a way to show their lower SP players what they have to do. It gives some validity to their statements about how to skill and the importance of specialization and teamwork if they want to be successful in PC.
To argue this only shows a person to be stubborn to a fault or a troll.
I believe that Prior to me joining R* i had played in 0 corp battles in DUST, but i had done corp battles in other games so thats where my experience mostly comes from and its easily applied in other games PFC is like a giant ball of wool and players muck about on it and maybe fight once a week while farming the other 6days PFC is peaceful mostly and backed up by bigger corps who are supposed to keep balance (lolAE keeping balance while looking at Nyain San 3 districts lol) Thing is tho 'war' isnt fair, they will hit you as much as possible and if you own 1 district thats easy to deal with but once you hit the higher numbers then it gets harder and harder to deal with because of overlapping timers for example or just timers when the corp isnt as active Really how many games will it take for PFC corps to be good enough to join and compete with the rest of molden heath? How long will it have to go on for? Will they ever be good enough to compete? PFC is a farmville planet which isnt as active as it really should be and they have the fall back knowing that they will always have that district even if they lose, PC you lose you have a re up, you lose that you may have another re up or you lose the district on PFC it doesnt happen and you can contact the 'police' to sort it out PFC is as far away from PC as it gets imo
But you joined Red Star. The corp was full of people with experience. It's not about the individual players when it comes to PC. If the field commanders and squad leaders have no idea how to field a team and set objectives then it doesn't matter how good the individuals are.
I really don't have the patience to try to explain to people why it is important to train for things. I took it for granted that normally functioning human brains just had the importance of training in all walks of life stored as important by default.
Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
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Roman837
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
11
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So, just to clarify....its perfectly acceptable..if I create a fake corp, add it to my alliance..and own a pfc district? All I have to do is..warn the attacking team, or team I'm attaxking that I'm brining in alliance members? And then just claim its training? OOORRRRR we can just attack or defend a district on pfc with our actual corp guys..and use it for actual training as its intended. There's so many flaws, and biased outlooks. It has good intentions in theory and publicly..but in reality the only people on pfc are those who beg to AE. KOTR does not deserve a PFC district, if they do have one, I better not see them in any matches against us or our allies. If we do, we will retaliate against the only thing available, their PFC district. |
CPL Bloodstone
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
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lol actually I am in knights of the round, im in their corporation as of last week. nice try. also you do realize that you can make your tags disappear on the forums as well right? go to settings and do it.[/quote]
I honestly didn't know that and why would you hide it? |
Void Echo
2135
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CPL Bloodstone wrote:lol actually I am in knights of the round, im in their corporation as of last week. nice try. also you do realize that you can make your tags disappear on the forums as well right? go to settings and do it.
I honestly didn't know that and why would you hide it?[/quote]
they requested that I don't show my affiliation in the forums.
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Derrith Erador
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
414
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Posted - 2013.11.13 16:09:00 -
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CPL Bloodstone wrote:
this entire thread is Void.
I saw what you did there.
And so it was written, those who have no love for redheads or chili will forever be shunned by Praetorians.
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MICKY KNOCKS
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
70
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Posted - 2013.11.13 18:56:00 -
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Roman837 wrote:So, just to clarify....its perfectly acceptable..if I create a fake corp, add it to my alliance..and own a pfc district? All I have to do is..warn the attacking team, or team I'm attaxking that I'm brining in alliance members? And then just claim its training? OOORRRRR we can just attack or defend a district on pfc with our actual corp guys..and use it for actual training as its intended. There's so many flaws, and biased outlooks. It has good intentions in theory and publicly..but in reality the only people on pfc are those who beg to AE. KOTR does not deserve a PFC district, if they do have one, I better not see them in any matches against us or our allies. If we do, we will retaliate against the only thing available, their PFC district.
^ This is dead on. If a Corp is in PFC and is also showing a presence in outside PC then they should give up their PFC district to a smaller indie Corp by selling it to them, as they are obviously ready to move out. Also this Corp being mentioned as having 3 PFC districts should be given proper notice to relinquish 2 of their choice back to the previous owners, or ordered to give them to smaller Corps that are in line to receive one if the previous owners already have one, if they do not comply, they should be attacked by anyone that wants the district with no rules, then the victor can sell it for their efforts or keep it if they have NO other districts as PFC calls for.
All this farming and other bullshit these corps are pulling is absolutely intolerable, and I understand why you are all so mad at PFC. However, please know that some corps are using it in the capacity that the community intended, and it has gotten us on our feet and we will be moving out soon. So please get behind this thing and help out if you don't like the way it's going, don't just keep saying it should be taken away or burned down. Without PFC, this game would surely lose all luster to any newcomers and in a very short time get really boring for all you vets as well.
AE should be commended on their efforts to help keep this game growing by supporting PFC, and I highly doubt they are giving preference to this corp that has 3 districts within it, as they recently put out a thread warning against this very violation. Has anyone tried to inform AE in a post or email, or are we just jumping right to the conclusion that they are constantly looking over who owns which districts on PFC hour by hour, and they already know? I am not kissing their ass in any way as I have no affiliation with them, I am just saying PFC is a great thing for newcomers and they are the only ones that have stayed by PFC's side throughout the last couple of months since I have been involved (about 3 months).
If it wasn't for PFC, I wouldn't be playing this game, I guarantee it. But since I am in a PFC district, I get a chance every once in a while to kill one of you, and that is worth keeping. Sorry for the long post.
1st Commander.The Dyst0pian Corporation
Public Channel: Dyst0pian Discourse
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Eugene Killmore
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.11.13 19:13:00 -
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Gods Architect wrote:Sver has been badly beaten, they are no longer a superpower and stomping them now is not fair or fun. The PFC specifics on what kind of corp can join PFC is shady and undefined at best. This "illegal" action will be dealt with but understand that R* is trying to burn PFC and at the moment full attention is being paid to them. If able the superpowers will divert assistance to this cause. Hold tight.
super powers lol pradox? hahahahahahahahaha now in spanish jajajajajajajajajaja |
bigolenuts
Ancient Exiles.
162
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Posted - 2013.11.13 19:42:00 -
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Queen my dishes please... |
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DJINN Rampage
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2013.11.13 20:36:00 -
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you have been warned.
GÿúLevel 1 Forum WarriorGÖô
GÿáTemplar of the Exiled.GäóGÖå
Gÿå GÖí.GÖí Gÿ» Gÿ« ... Who Gives A Flux
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SoTarian PoParrazi
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
121
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Posted - 2013.11.13 20:38:00 -
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DJINN Rampage wrote:you have been warned.
Hide yo isk - hide yo districts! |
Void Echo
2135
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Posted - 2013.11.13 21:24:00 -
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i assume that was towards sver, rampage.
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Gildart Lightray
Eternal Beings
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Posted - 2013.11.13 21:24:00 -
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This is like the 6th thread in a month about someone not doing something "right" on PFC. Another complaint about something. The enforcers, whoever they are should be busy atm with PFC violations with so many threads about this and that. I still haven't seen a thank you thread lol.
Forum Warrior lvl. 0
Rank : Trollawon / I'm doing it wrong :)
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CPL Bloodstone
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
179
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Posted - 2013.11.13 21:43:00 -
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DJINN Rampage wrote:you have been warned.
Who you warning Djinn Rampage? Nyian San for holding 3 districts on PFC? Or you warning WTF Acadami for bringing in 15/16 ringers without warning? Or are you warning STB even though our plan is to give back lolKOTR their distrcit back, which was stated publically. tell me Please oh great masta |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San
Proficiency V.
134
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Posted - 2013.11.13 21:44:00 -
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we are losing two of our three pfc district tonight relax everybody |
137H4RGIC
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:18:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:CPL Bloodstone wrote:lol actually I am in knights of the round, im in their corporation as of last week. nice try. also you do realize that you can make your tags disappear on the forums as well right? go to settings and do it. I honestly didn't know that and why would you hide it?
they requested that I don't show my affiliation in the forums.[/quote]
Yet here you are, letting the cat out of the bag. Seems legit |
137H4RGIC
SVER True Blood
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:20:00 -
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INSIDE JOKE: KOTR is not PC ready. |
Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:26:00 -
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137H4RGIC wrote:Void Echo wrote:CPL Bloodstone wrote:lol actually I am in knights of the round, im in their corporation as of last week. nice try. also you do realize that you can make your tags disappear on the forums as well right? go to settings and do it. I honestly didn't know that and why would you hide it? they requested that I don't show my affiliation in the forums.
Yet here you are, letting the cat out of the bag. Seems legit[/quote]
well, I had to in order for this to happen.
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ragewardog
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:46:00 -
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we are giving the district back... if they want to use this fight as a training match cool if not ok we will no show if thats what they want o7 |
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DJINN Rampage
Ancient Exiles.
730
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Posted - 2013.11.13 23:54:00 -
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CPL Bloodstone wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:you have been warned. Who you warning Djinn Rampage? Nyian San for holding 3 districts on PFC? Or you warning WTF Acadami for bringing in 15/16 ringers without warning? Or are you warning STB even though our plan is to give back lolKOTR their distrcit back, which was stated publically. tell me Please oh great masta
yes to all.
and it is Master OG Templar DJINN Rampage to you heathen.
GÿúLevel 1 Forum WarriorGÖô
GÿáTemplar of the Exiled.GäóGÖå
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ragewardog
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
89
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Posted - 2013.11.14 00:03:00 -
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no more STB post here we are returning the district |
Violent Priors
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND
0
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Posted - 2013.11.14 01:04:00 -
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This matter is resolved. For the record Void has been a Knight for like 2 weeks. I personally don't like posting on the forums, but found it necessary b4 this gets out of hand. I spoke to Sever leadership moments ago, any further communications will be done in-game. |
Ripcord19981
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND
252
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Posted - 2013.11.14 01:33:00 -
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Violent Priors wrote:This matter is resolved. For the record Void has been a Knight for like 2 weeks. I personally don't like posting on the forums, but found it necessary b4 this gets out of hand. I spoke to Sever leadership moments ago, any further communications will be done in-game.
ur 1st like
I can only please one person per day. Today is not ur day, tomorrow doesn't look too bright either.
Turkey sammich>taco
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DJINN Kujo
Ancient Exiles.
674
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Posted - 2013.11.14 05:43:00 -
[55] - Quote
We have this tracked already; I have already received messages from STB about this. Personally I must say this is a piece of **** move, secondly; sorry for STB to here, but you are officially marked, yet again. This time, there will be no mercy, if you expect to hold anything in Molden Heath again, you better put your money where your actions lead you in, as only your indulgent self conscious acts have yet again brought this upon you. Have fun.
Ancient Exiles, CEO
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ragewardog
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
91
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Posted - 2013.11.14 10:07:00 -
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kujo man stb run 50 deep a night we are trying to get a place are none a team can pc to learn... and as kotr has stated we are no showing the battle today they are getting it back and they did not want it to be a training so we will no show. I would have gave it back the day of but I got of before they won it... and work 10+ hours so didn't no till after kotr attacked it which put the 48 hour timer on it but they get it back tonight.... as for the ae attack I don't no why we was attacked seeing that we have stated many times we was and are giving the district back... |
DJINN Kujo
Ancient Exiles.
678
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Posted - 2013.11.14 10:56:00 -
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Rage I understand this, but you want a PFC district, we can discuss something around the issue. I was not to thrilled to find out STB took this district. I understand that you want to train your newer players, but in all actuality; there are some corporations out there that need WAY more experience than STB. Hell, there is even players within AE we need to get into PC's if your really worried about it. Hit up Anonymous to, they are always down for fights, give your guys something to fight for, but don't pick on PFC districts. And as far as the Nyain San thing, yes they did have 3 districts, wants to look at that again? That's like saying through the course of enforcement of PFC, Ancient Exiles. holding districts is negligent but it's for a cause. Some timers on PFC are hard for AE. to hit, but in the end it's always good to have Nyain San there to help us out in that case.
- As far as WTF, we are still investigating this matter especially with them holding districts in their main corp outside of PFC. As the timer is hard for us, we are looking into this during the weekend as it's more plausible in this scenario.
Ancient Exiles, CEO
Your failure to plan ahead does not constitute an emergency on my end.
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superjoe360x
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
112
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Posted - 2013.11.14 11:13:00 -
[58] - Quote
Eugene Killmore wrote:Gods Architect wrote:Sver has been badly beaten, they are no longer a superpower and stomping them now is not fair or fun. The PFC specifics on what kind of corp can join PFC is shady and undefined at best. This "illegal" action will be dealt with but understand that R* is trying to burn PFC and at the moment full attention is being paid to them. If able the superpowers will divert assistance to this cause. Hold tight. super powers lol pradox? hahahahahahahahaha now in spanish jajajajajajajajajaja
Red Star hahahahahahahaha. Ohhhhhhhhhh hahahahahaha you guys and your spamming of **** to lag everyone out is in fact the biggest joke in Dust. Hahahahahaha so keep on laughing Eugene. Maybe when you can beat somebody fairly everyone wont take you as a joke. |
ragewardog
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
91
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Posted - 2013.11.14 11:43:00 -
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OK.... I get that other corps need it to I'm just saying man its pfc for training we are just trying to do just that but I get the smaller corps need the space more then we do... and as for the attack ae put on are district is that because of this? Is there anything I can do about that or is it just a fun fight? |
Traky78
What The French
379
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Posted - 2013.11.14 12:27:00 -
[60] - Quote
DJINN Kujo wrote:Rage I understand this, but you want a PFC district, we can discuss something around the issue. I was not to thrilled to find out STB took this district. I understand that you want to train your newer players, but in all actuality; there are some corporations out there that need WAY more experience than STB. Hell, there is even players within AE we need to get into PC's if your really worried about it. Hit up Anonymous to, they are always down for fights, give your guys something to fight for, but don't pick on PFC districts. And as far as the Nyain San thing, yes they did have 3 districts, wants to look at that again? That's like saying through the course of enforcement of PFC, Ancient Exiles. holding districts is negligent but it's for a cause. Some timers on PFC are hard for AE. to hit, but in the end it's always good to have Nyain San there to help us out in that case.
- As far as WTF, we are still investigating this matter especially with them holding districts in their main corp outside of PFC. As the timer is hard for us, we are looking into this during the weekend as it's more plausible in this scenario.
What is the problem with our PFC district ? |
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Kaltos Darksbane
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND
108
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Posted - 2013.11.14 13:46:00 -
[61] - Quote
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Dust 514?...............More like Dust 5150.
I support SP rollover!
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ragewardog
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
91
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Posted - 2013.11.14 17:17:00 -
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Traky u no the issue we got with your training corporation day before our battle you put your a team in and not new guys aka you broke pfc law |
Traky78
What The French
379
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Posted - 2013.11.14 17:23:00 -
[63] - Quote
This was really not our A team. And with all going on with STB at the moment, i thought you were trying to bash our Academy.
Next time send me a message bro... |
Roman837
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
14
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Posted - 2013.11.14 17:42:00 -
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Traky78 wrote:This was really not our A team. And with all going on with STB at the moment, i thought you were trying to bash our Academy.
Next time send me a message bro...
I will list the players you brought if needed..I'm sure they would not appreciate being considered NOT your A team. I do tho, understand your stance on not being sure what STB was going to bring..well, I kinda do, That is if..we didn't send you messages, which we did. All has been saved and forwarded. We were legit looking for a training match with your Academie.
STB Director(Diplomat and PC/FC dude) Also a Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
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CPL Bloodstone
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
180
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Posted - 2013.11.14 18:31:00 -
[65] - Quote
Traky78 wrote:This was really not our A team. And with all going on with STB at the moment, i thought you were trying to bash our Academy.
Next time send me a message bro...
I sent messages to my friend Weznof, guess he didn't get you the message. You messages our CEO about what was going on. So I sent the CEO of wtf acadamy several emails the day before and the day of. Only 2 acadamy mercs were in the battle the rest A team. I have the emails which were forwarded to AE and I have pics proving it. In. My mind you owe STB 72 million is. 36 for the clone pack and 2 mill per Merc in the battle. We brought 4 vets and 12 trainees .
CPL Bloodstone
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ragewardog
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
91
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Posted - 2013.11.14 20:53:00 -
[66] - Quote
I sent you mails you not someone else but you mails saying it was a training battle so don't give me that bs traky |
p4rkwaydrive
Ancient Exiles.
372
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Posted - 2013.11.14 21:51:00 -
[67] - Quote
Fighhtttttt
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