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CPL Bloodstone
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.11.13 15:10:00 -
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i assure you this thread isn't void.
It was always our intent to give the district back to KOTR. Which we have stated publically and intend to do soon which is already set.
The fact is Djinn Rampage a representitive of KOTR is not present. Where is AE with our claim on WTF? Hrmm? I didn't hear anything back from you or Kujo on the matter. So , unless you come here B*tching to the masses, guess thats the only way to get this kind of thing worked out. Also, what about your Friends of Nyian san holding 3 districts on PFC? |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
1664
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Posted - 2013.11.13 15:11:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:
So you believe that the only place to train is in live action with all the marbles on the table?
I can literally think of no scenario where people do not train before endeavoring into something where the stakes are high.
Care to offer an example? I mean CCP has given us literally ZERO ways to team deploy other than PC. Right now PC has perhaps 1-5% of the playerbase involved. Do you think that might change if we were to have the old corp battle mode back?
PFC is the only thing close to this. If you don't like the idea behind PFC then you flat out don't like the idea of having a vibrant Molden Heath with lots of fighting.
I'd venture to say that the success people have in PC comes from the experience they gathered in beta fighting in lots of corp battles. I don't think PFC is going to change this anytime soon, but it does give corps a way to show their lower SP players what they have to do. It gives some validity to their statements about how to skill and the importance of specialization and teamwork if they want to be successful in PC.
To argue this only shows a person to be stubborn to a fault or a troll.
I believe that
Prior to me joining R* i had played in 0 corp battles in DUST, but i had done corp battles in other games so thats where my experience mostly comes from and its easily applied in other games
PFC is like a giant ball of wool and players muck about on it and maybe fight once a week while farming the other 6days
PFC is peaceful mostly and backed up by bigger corps who are supposed to keep balance (lolAE keeping balance while looking at Nyain San 3 districts lol)
Thing is tho 'war' isnt fair, they will hit you as much as possible and if you own 1 district thats easy to deal with but once you hit the higher numbers then it gets harder and harder to deal with because of overlapping timers for example or just timers when the corp isnt as active
Really how many games will it take for PFC corps to be good enough to join and compete with the rest of molden heath?
How long will it have to go on for? Will they ever be good enough to compete?
PFC is a farmville planet which isnt as active as it really should be and they have the fall back knowing that they will always have that district even if they lose, PC you lose you have a re up, you lose that you may have another re up or you lose the district on PFC it doesnt happen and you can contact the 'police' to sort it out
PFC is as far away from PC as it gets imo |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe PC RISE of LEGION
1918
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Posted - 2013.11.13 15:42:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:
So you believe that the only place to train is in live action with all the marbles on the table?
I can literally think of no scenario where people do not train before endeavoring into something where the stakes are high.
Care to offer an example? I mean CCP has given us literally ZERO ways to team deploy other than PC. Right now PC has perhaps 1-5% of the playerbase involved. Do you think that might change if we were to have the old corp battle mode back?
PFC is the only thing close to this. If you don't like the idea behind PFC then you flat out don't like the idea of having a vibrant Molden Heath with lots of fighting.
I'd venture to say that the success people have in PC comes from the experience they gathered in beta fighting in lots of corp battles. I don't think PFC is going to change this anytime soon, but it does give corps a way to show their lower SP players what they have to do. It gives some validity to their statements about how to skill and the importance of specialization and teamwork if they want to be successful in PC.
To argue this only shows a person to be stubborn to a fault or a troll.
I believe that Prior to me joining R* i had played in 0 corp battles in DUST, but i had done corp battles in other games so thats where my experience mostly comes from and its easily applied in other games PFC is like a giant ball of wool and players muck about on it and maybe fight once a week while farming the other 6days PFC is peaceful mostly and backed up by bigger corps who are supposed to keep balance (lolAE keeping balance while looking at Nyain San 3 districts lol) Thing is tho 'war' isnt fair, they will hit you as much as possible and if you own 1 district thats easy to deal with but once you hit the higher numbers then it gets harder and harder to deal with because of overlapping timers for example or just timers when the corp isnt as active Really how many games will it take for PFC corps to be good enough to join and compete with the rest of molden heath? How long will it have to go on for? Will they ever be good enough to compete? PFC is a farmville planet which isnt as active as it really should be and they have the fall back knowing that they will always have that district even if they lose, PC you lose you have a re up, you lose that you may have another re up or you lose the district on PFC it doesnt happen and you can contact the 'police' to sort it out PFC is as far away from PC as it gets imo
But you joined Red Star. The corp was full of people with experience. It's not about the individual players when it comes to PC. If the field commanders and squad leaders have no idea how to field a team and set objectives then it doesn't matter how good the individuals are.
I really don't have the patience to try to explain to people why it is important to train for things. I took it for granted that normally functioning human brains just had the importance of training in all walks of life stored as important by default.
Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
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Roman837
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
11
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Posted - 2013.11.13 15:55:00 -
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So, just to clarify....its perfectly acceptable..if I create a fake corp, add it to my alliance..and own a pfc district? All I have to do is..warn the attacking team, or team I'm attaxking that I'm brining in alliance members? And then just claim its training? OOORRRRR we can just attack or defend a district on pfc with our actual corp guys..and use it for actual training as its intended. There's so many flaws, and biased outlooks. It has good intentions in theory and publicly..but in reality the only people on pfc are those who beg to AE. KOTR does not deserve a PFC district, if they do have one, I better not see them in any matches against us or our allies. If we do, we will retaliate against the only thing available, their PFC district. |
CPL Bloodstone
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
178
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Posted - 2013.11.13 15:56:00 -
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lol actually I am in knights of the round, im in their corporation as of last week. nice try. also you do realize that you can make your tags disappear on the forums as well right? go to settings and do it.[/quote]
I honestly didn't know that and why would you hide it? |
Void Echo
2135
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Posted - 2013.11.13 16:06:00 -
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CPL Bloodstone wrote:lol actually I am in knights of the round, im in their corporation as of last week. nice try. also you do realize that you can make your tags disappear on the forums as well right? go to settings and do it.
I honestly didn't know that and why would you hide it?[/quote]
they requested that I don't show my affiliation in the forums.
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Derrith Erador
Pradox One Proficiency V.
414
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Posted - 2013.11.13 16:09:00 -
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CPL Bloodstone wrote: this entire thread is Void.
I saw what you did there.
And so it was written, those who have no love for redheads or chili will forever be shunned by Praetorians.
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MICKY KNOCKS
The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day
70
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Posted - 2013.11.13 18:56:00 -
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Roman837 wrote:So, just to clarify....its perfectly acceptable..if I create a fake corp, add it to my alliance..and own a pfc district? All I have to do is..warn the attacking team, or team I'm attaxking that I'm brining in alliance members? And then just claim its training? OOORRRRR we can just attack or defend a district on pfc with our actual corp guys..and use it for actual training as its intended. There's so many flaws, and biased outlooks. It has good intentions in theory and publicly..but in reality the only people on pfc are those who beg to AE. KOTR does not deserve a PFC district, if they do have one, I better not see them in any matches against us or our allies. If we do, we will retaliate against the only thing available, their PFC district.
^ This is dead on. If a Corp is in PFC and is also showing a presence in outside PC then they should give up their PFC district to a smaller indie Corp by selling it to them, as they are obviously ready to move out. Also this Corp being mentioned as having 3 PFC districts should be given proper notice to relinquish 2 of their choice back to the previous owners, or ordered to give them to smaller Corps that are in line to receive one if the previous owners already have one, if they do not comply, they should be attacked by anyone that wants the district with no rules, then the victor can sell it for their efforts or keep it if they have NO other districts as PFC calls for.
All this farming and other bullshit these corps are pulling is absolutely intolerable, and I understand why you are all so mad at PFC. However, please know that some corps are using it in the capacity that the community intended, and it has gotten us on our feet and we will be moving out soon. So please get behind this thing and help out if you don't like the way it's going, don't just keep saying it should be taken away or burned down. Without PFC, this game would surely lose all luster to any newcomers and in a very short time get really boring for all you vets as well.
AE should be commended on their efforts to help keep this game growing by supporting PFC, and I highly doubt they are giving preference to this corp that has 3 districts within it, as they recently put out a thread warning against this very violation. Has anyone tried to inform AE in a post or email, or are we just jumping right to the conclusion that they are constantly looking over who owns which districts on PFC hour by hour, and they already know? I am not kissing their ass in any way as I have no affiliation with them, I am just saying PFC is a great thing for newcomers and they are the only ones that have stayed by PFC's side throughout the last couple of months since I have been involved (about 3 months).
If it wasn't for PFC, I wouldn't be playing this game, I guarantee it. But since I am in a PFC district, I get a chance every once in a while to kill one of you, and that is worth keeping. Sorry for the long post.
1st Commander.The Dyst0pian Corporation
Public Channel: Dyst0pian Discourse
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Eugene Killmore
Red Star. EoN.
188
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Posted - 2013.11.13 19:13:00 -
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Gods Architect wrote:Sver has been badly beaten, they are no longer a superpower and stomping them now is not fair or fun. The PFC specifics on what kind of corp can join PFC is shady and undefined at best. This "illegal" action will be dealt with but understand that R* is trying to burn PFC and at the moment full attention is being paid to them. If able the superpowers will divert assistance to this cause. Hold tight.
super powers lol pradox? hahahahahahahahaha now in spanish jajajajajajajajajaja |
bigolenuts
Ancient Exiles.
162
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Posted - 2013.11.13 19:42:00 -
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Queen my dishes please... |
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DJINN Rampage
Ancient Exiles.
726
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Posted - 2013.11.13 20:36:00 -
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you have been warned.
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GÿáTemplar of the Exiled.GäóGÖå
Gÿå GÖí.GÖí Gÿ» Gÿ« ... Who Gives A Flux
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SoTarian PoParrazi
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
121
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Posted - 2013.11.13 20:38:00 -
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DJINN Rampage wrote:you have been warned. Hide yo isk - hide yo districts! |
Void Echo
2135
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Posted - 2013.11.13 21:24:00 -
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i assume that was towards sver, rampage.
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Gildart Lightray
Eternal Beings
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Posted - 2013.11.13 21:24:00 -
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This is like the 6th thread in a month about someone not doing something "right" on PFC. Another complaint about something. The enforcers, whoever they are should be busy atm with PFC violations with so many threads about this and that. I still haven't seen a thank you thread lol.
Forum Warrior lvl. 0
Rank : Trollawon / I'm doing it wrong :)
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CPL Bloodstone
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
179
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Posted - 2013.11.13 21:43:00 -
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DJINN Rampage wrote:you have been warned.
Who you warning Djinn Rampage? Nyian San for holding 3 districts on PFC? Or you warning WTF Acadami for bringing in 15/16 ringers without warning? Or are you warning STB even though our plan is to give back lolKOTR their distrcit back, which was stated publically. tell me Please oh great masta |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San Proficiency V.
134
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Posted - 2013.11.13 21:44:00 -
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we are losing two of our three pfc district tonight relax everybody |
137H4RGIC
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
133
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:18:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:CPL Bloodstone wrote:lol actually I am in knights of the round, im in their corporation as of last week. nice try. also you do realize that you can make your tags disappear on the forums as well right? go to settings and do it. I honestly didn't know that and why would you hide it?
they requested that I don't show my affiliation in the forums.[/quote] Yet here you are, letting the cat out of the bag. Seems legit |
137H4RGIC
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
133
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:20:00 -
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INSIDE JOKE: KOTR is not PC ready. |
Void Echo
2136
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:26:00 -
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137H4RGIC wrote:Void Echo wrote:CPL Bloodstone wrote:lol actually I am in knights of the round, im in their corporation as of last week. nice try. also you do realize that you can make your tags disappear on the forums as well right? go to settings and do it. I honestly didn't know that and why would you hide it? they requested that I don't show my affiliation in the forums. Yet here you are, letting the cat out of the bag. Seems legit[/quote]
well, I had to in order for this to happen.
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ragewardog
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
89
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:46:00 -
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we are giving the district back... if they want to use this fight as a training match cool if not ok we will no show if thats what they want o7 |
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DJINN Rampage
Ancient Exiles.
730
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Posted - 2013.11.13 23:54:00 -
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CPL Bloodstone wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:you have been warned. Who you warning Djinn Rampage? Nyian San for holding 3 districts on PFC? Or you warning WTF Acadami for bringing in 15/16 ringers without warning? Or are you warning STB even though our plan is to give back lolKOTR their distrcit back, which was stated publically. tell me Please oh great masta
yes to all.
and it is Master OG Templar DJINN Rampage to you heathen.
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GÿáTemplar of the Exiled.GäóGÖå
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ragewardog
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
89
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Posted - 2013.11.14 00:03:00 -
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no more STB post here we are returning the district |
Violent Priors
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND
0
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Posted - 2013.11.14 01:04:00 -
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This matter is resolved. For the record Void has been a Knight for like 2 weeks. I personally don't like posting on the forums, but found it necessary b4 this gets out of hand. I spoke to Sever leadership moments ago, any further communications will be done in-game. |
Ripcord19981
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND
252
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Posted - 2013.11.14 01:33:00 -
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Violent Priors wrote:This matter is resolved. For the record Void has been a Knight for like 2 weeks. I personally don't like posting on the forums, but found it necessary b4 this gets out of hand. I spoke to Sever leadership moments ago, any further communications will be done in-game. ur 1st like
I can only please one person per day. Today is not ur day, tomorrow doesn't look too bright either.
Turkey sammich>taco
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DJINN Kujo
Ancient Exiles.
674
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Posted - 2013.11.14 05:43:00 -
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We have this tracked already; I have already received messages from STB about this. Personally I must say this is a piece of **** move, secondly; sorry for STB to here, but you are officially marked, yet again. This time, there will be no mercy, if you expect to hold anything in Molden Heath again, you better put your money where your actions lead you in, as only your indulgent self conscious acts have yet again brought this upon you. Have fun.
Ancient Exiles, CEO
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ragewardog
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
91
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Posted - 2013.11.14 10:07:00 -
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kujo man stb run 50 deep a night we are trying to get a place are none a team can pc to learn... and as kotr has stated we are no showing the battle today they are getting it back and they did not want it to be a training so we will no show. I would have gave it back the day of but I got of before they won it... and work 10+ hours so didn't no till after kotr attacked it which put the 48 hour timer on it but they get it back tonight.... as for the ae attack I don't no why we was attacked seeing that we have stated many times we was and are giving the district back... |
DJINN Kujo
Ancient Exiles.
678
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Posted - 2013.11.14 10:56:00 -
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Rage I understand this, but you want a PFC district, we can discuss something around the issue. I was not to thrilled to find out STB took this district. I understand that you want to train your newer players, but in all actuality; there are some corporations out there that need WAY more experience than STB. Hell, there is even players within AE we need to get into PC's if your really worried about it. Hit up Anonymous to, they are always down for fights, give your guys something to fight for, but don't pick on PFC districts. And as far as the Nyain San thing, yes they did have 3 districts, wants to look at that again? That's like saying through the course of enforcement of PFC, Ancient Exiles. holding districts is negligent but it's for a cause. Some timers on PFC are hard for AE. to hit, but in the end it's always good to have Nyain San there to help us out in that case.
- As far as WTF, we are still investigating this matter especially with them holding districts in their main corp outside of PFC. As the timer is hard for us, we are looking into this during the weekend as it's more plausible in this scenario.
Ancient Exiles, CEO
Your failure to plan ahead does not constitute an emergency on my end.
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superjoe360x
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
112
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Posted - 2013.11.14 11:13:00 -
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Eugene Killmore wrote:Gods Architect wrote:Sver has been badly beaten, they are no longer a superpower and stomping them now is not fair or fun. The PFC specifics on what kind of corp can join PFC is shady and undefined at best. This "illegal" action will be dealt with but understand that R* is trying to burn PFC and at the moment full attention is being paid to them. If able the superpowers will divert assistance to this cause. Hold tight. super powers lol pradox? hahahahahahahahaha now in spanish jajajajajajajajajaja Red Star hahahahahahahaha. Ohhhhhhhhhh hahahahahaha you guys and your spamming of **** to lag everyone out is in fact the biggest joke in Dust. Hahahahahaha so keep on laughing Eugene. Maybe when you can beat somebody fairly everyone wont take you as a joke. |
ragewardog
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
91
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Posted - 2013.11.14 11:43:00 -
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OK.... I get that other corps need it to I'm just saying man its pfc for training we are just trying to do just that but I get the smaller corps need the space more then we do... and as for the attack ae put on are district is that because of this? Is there anything I can do about that or is it just a fun fight? |
Traky78
What The French
379
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Posted - 2013.11.14 12:27:00 -
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DJINN Kujo wrote:Rage I understand this, but you want a PFC district, we can discuss something around the issue. I was not to thrilled to find out STB took this district. I understand that you want to train your newer players, but in all actuality; there are some corporations out there that need WAY more experience than STB. Hell, there is even players within AE we need to get into PC's if your really worried about it. Hit up Anonymous to, they are always down for fights, give your guys something to fight for, but don't pick on PFC districts. And as far as the Nyain San thing, yes they did have 3 districts, wants to look at that again? That's like saying through the course of enforcement of PFC, Ancient Exiles. holding districts is negligent but it's for a cause. Some timers on PFC are hard for AE. to hit, but in the end it's always good to have Nyain San there to help us out in that case.
- As far as WTF, we are still investigating this matter especially with them holding districts in their main corp outside of PFC. As the timer is hard for us, we are looking into this during the weekend as it's more plausible in this scenario.
What is the problem with our PFC district ? |
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