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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2013.11.12 19:33:00 -
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As the forum is likely aware by now, our corp wallet is a complete free-for-all. So how does that work for securing payment for ringers that you bring in? It doesn't offer payment security in the traditional sense, but it offers an interesting opportunity for ringer squads to make a LOT of isk.
Our protocols suggest that anyone interested in joining our active PC attacks send aboard a market representative (you don't have to identify to me that this is a market alt) with whom the party can trust and communicate with via Skype or another off game VoIP system. The market representative is tasked with either jumping out of the PC battle early or sitting out the entire match to watch the wallet screen in temporary afk for word that the match is ending. At such time, the market rep begins the strategic withdraw process to take out taxed funds on a winning PC battle.
To illustrate, a six merc squad could have a 7th agent waiting back at home base. If the PC match results in a 40 million isk payout, that splits 5,714,000 isk seven ways.
For greater security at protecting information on when a match ends it is suggested that a party bring in a full 16 merc squad via 3 to 4 XER corp alts. Under these conditions the only other players to know when a match is over are enemy combatant, who may themselves have market representatives in XER.
Payment doesn't stop there. A market representative may continue to skim profits from the sale of excess clones if a district is held by Xer Cloud Consortium for an extended period of time. Otherwise, the market representative may choose to send clones to attack another district which which they want to pick a fight.
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Mikey Ducati
Xer Cloud Consortium
28
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Posted - 2013.11.12 19:39:00 -
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God, I freaking love this corporation. Give me about a half hour, my corpmates. I will be playing some ambush to fuel all your wallet snatching needs. Just because I love you guys so.
I'm also thinking of doing a "ISK for hire" deal. I haven't figured it all out yet and how it would work. The idea is that I have an alt who grinds for you and at a percentage of the total ISK.
So if you need money but don't have the time, we can speak in game, come to an agreement of how much you want accumulated and I charge you a percentage of it (both agreed upon). I can give you the time and date I will begin such, with a comm channel that you can communicate with me.
Oh and when we will have another PC? I'm ready to troll...
Long live XCC.
Disrupt order. Evade rules. Invoke chaos
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
322
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Posted - 2013.11.12 19:42:00 -
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Mikey Ducati wrote:God, I freaking love this corporation. Give me about a half hour, my corpmates. I will be playing some ambush to fuel all your wallet snatching needs. Just because I love you guys so.
I'm also thinking of doing a "ISK for hire" deal. I haven't figured it all out yet and how it would work. The idea is that I have an alt who grinds for you and at a percentage of the total ISK.
So if you need money but don't have the time, we can speak in game, come to an agreement of how much you want accumulated and I charge you a percentage of it (both agreed upon). I can give you the time and date I will begin such, with a comm channel that you can communicate with me.
Oh and when we will have another PC? I'm ready to troll...
Long live XCC.
Disrupt order. Evade rules. Invoke chaos
We should hit up the Chinese Internet Cafe gold grinders. I bet they'd like a change from grinding FF XIV Realm Reborn accounts.
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Mikey Ducati
Xer Cloud Consortium
28
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Posted - 2013.11.12 19:45:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:Mikey Ducati wrote:God, I freaking love this corporation. Give me about a half hour, my corpmates. I will be playing some ambush to fuel all your wallet snatching needs. Just because I love you guys so.
I'm also thinking of doing a "ISK for hire" deal. I haven't figured it all out yet and how it would work. The idea is that I have an alt who grinds for you and at a percentage of the total ISK.
So if you need money but don't have the time, we can speak in game, come to an agreement of how much you want accumulated and I charge you a percentage of it (both agreed upon). I can give you the time and date I will begin such, with a comm channel that you can communicate with me.
Oh and when we will have another PC? I'm ready to troll...
Long live XCC.
Disrupt order. Evade rules. Invoke chaos
We should hit up the Chinese Internet Cafe gold grinders. I bet they'd like a change from grinding FF XIV Realm Reborn accounts.
Oh yea? That sounds like a good idea! I have no idea how to contact them though. But I like where this is heading |
Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
322
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Posted - 2013.11.12 19:45:00 -
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For PC battles, its also a fun sleight of hand when a corps sits in the warbarge then exits the match to bring in new players after you have already spawned on the ground.
That's especially potent with our corp because everyone expects us to run militia suits.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
322
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Posted - 2013.11.12 19:48:00 -
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Mikey Ducati wrote:Jadek Menaheim wrote:Mikey Ducati wrote:God, I freaking love this corporation. Give me about a half hour, my corpmates. I will be playing some ambush to fuel all your wallet snatching needs. Just because I love you guys so.
I'm also thinking of doing a "ISK for hire" deal. I haven't figured it all out yet and how it would work. The idea is that I have an alt who grinds for you and at a percentage of the total ISK.
So if you need money but don't have the time, we can speak in game, come to an agreement of how much you want accumulated and I charge you a percentage of it (both agreed upon). I can give you the time and date I will begin such, with a comm channel that you can communicate with me.
Oh and when we will have another PC? I'm ready to troll...
Long live XCC.
Disrupt order. Evade rules. Invoke chaos
We should hit up the Chinese Internet Cafe gold grinders. I bet they'd like a change from grinding FF XIV Realm Reborn accounts. Oh yea? That sounds like a good idea! I have no idea how to contact them though. But I like where this is heading If people aren't down for paying real money there is always going to the LP system coming to faction war fare. You ask players to pay a retainer fee of a certain number of LP gear items to keep your employ a certain number of hours per week of grind service.
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Jadu Wen
Xer Cloud Consortium
157
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Posted - 2013.11.12 19:50:00 -
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Warning: alt legions coming to DUST 514!
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2013.11.12 19:51:00 -
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Jadu Wen wrote:Warning: alt legions coming to DUST 514! Anything to expand the allure and draw of this free to play game. If you can make money off a free to play game that's even better!
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Jadu Wen
Xer Cloud Consortium
157
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Posted - 2013.11.12 19:55:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:Jadu Wen wrote:Warning: alt legions coming to DUST 514! Anything to expand the allure and draw of this free to play game. If you can make money off a free to play game that's even better! Would be really interested to find out if that is against the EULA. I don't see it as so because you are paying for someone's time, not for in game items, materials, or accounts.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2013.11.12 19:58:00 -
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Jadu Wen wrote:Jadek Menaheim wrote:Jadu Wen wrote:Warning: alt legions coming to DUST 514! Anything to expand the allure and draw of this free to play game. If you can make money off a free to play game that's even better! Would be really interested to find out if that is against the EULA. I don't see it as so because you are paying for someone's time, not for in game items, materials, or accounts. All you would be doing is coordinating times with their battles in order to withdraw wallet fund during times of lesser corp competition. On there other hand if someone was grinding isk as a business, I would imagine they would have two accounts running simultaneously. That way they can charge extra for the convenience of lump sum isk payments to their employers.
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MySpaceTom
Xer Cloud Consortium
44
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:00:00 -
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This actually sounds quite feasible, and I do imagine there are wealthy players who might not mind tossing out a couple coins to run proto tanks all day
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
325
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:01:00 -
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MySpaceTom wrote:This actually sounds quite feasible, and I do imagine there are wealthy players who might not mind tossing out a couple coins to run proto tanks all day Yes, it would have to be at a market rate less than AUR goods. I imagine the community could find those levels.
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Jadu Wen
Xer Cloud Consortium
157
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:02:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:MySpaceTom wrote:This actually sounds quite feasible, and I do imagine there are wealthy players who might not mind tossing out a couple coins to run proto tanks all day Yes, it would have to be at a market rate less than AUR goods. I imagine the community could find those levels. Now Jadek...that might actually start hurting CCP bottom line, but it'll certainly generate awareness and press about the game.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
325
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:06:00 -
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Jadu Wen wrote:Jadek Menaheim wrote:MySpaceTom wrote:This actually sounds quite feasible, and I do imagine there are wealthy players who might not mind tossing out a couple coins to run proto tanks all day Yes, it would have to be at a market rate less than AUR goods. I imagine the community could find those levels. Now Jadek...that might actually start hurting CCP bottom line, but it'll certainly generate awareness and press about the game. Then they should start making AUR items other than weapons, equipment, and vehicles. Bring on the paint bucket please!
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
355
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:06:00 -
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Mikey Ducati wrote:Jadek Menaheim wrote: We should hit up the Chinese Internet Cafe gold grinders. I bet they'd like a change from grinding FF XIV Realm Reborn accounts.
Oh yea? That sounds like a good idea! I have no idea how to contact them though. But I like where this is heading
Hmm. You see the way your Corp is set up? If gold grinders actually did find your guild one of them would be refreshing your bank screen 24/7 every 15 seconds or so and attempting withdrawals...
They don't play for fun, they play to get the most money out of a short time. Repetitive grinding. In other words, attracting their attention to your Corp would effectively mean the end of your cash dispersal plans.
If you can read this, it means you are reading.
Unless you are skimming
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
325
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:13:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Mikey Ducati wrote:Jadek Menaheim wrote: We should hit up the Chinese Internet Cafe gold grinders. I bet they'd like a change from grinding FF XIV Realm Reborn accounts.
Oh yea? That sounds like a good idea! I have no idea how to contact them though. But I like where this is heading Hmm. You see the way your Corp is set up? If gold grinders actually did find your guild one of them would be refreshing your bank screen 24/7 every 15 seconds or so and attempting withdrawals... They don't play for fun, they play to get the most money out of a short time. Repetitive grinding. In other words, attracting their attention to your Corp would effectively mean the end of your cash dispersal plans. Good point. Additionally, that network load might flux up CCP's servers. Oh dear.
Headline: "Free to Play Game Taken Down by Wallet."
Plus if that becomes the case, I will simply start another corp and run the corps concurrently as a growing alliance. If anything this model may evolve into a virus that peaks in relationship to the volume of gold grinders. People really can't break this idea.
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Jadu Wen
Xer Cloud Consortium
157
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:17:00 -
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If CCP forbids these kinds of corps from developing it wouldn't reflect very well on their goal to make a persistent sandbox in Dust 514. If anything they would be pouring out the sand from the sandbox. Players don't have to join into this system. They are free to remain with traditional corps and the like.
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MySpaceTom
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:19:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:Headline: "Free to Play Game Taken Down by Wallet."
Plus if that becomes the case, I will simply start another corp and run the corps concurrently as a growing alliance. If anything this model may evolve into a virus that peaks in relationship to the volume of gold grinders. People really can't break this idea. Yes, XER is chaos incarnate!!!!!
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Jadu Wen
Xer Cloud Consortium
157
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:24:00 -
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MySpaceTom wrote:Jadek Menaheim wrote:Headline: "Free to Play Game Taken Down by Wallet."
Plus if that becomes the case, I will simply start another corp and run the corps concurrently as a growing alliance. If anything this model may evolve into a virus that peaks in relationship to the volume of gold grinders. People really can't break this idea. Yes, XER is chaos incarnate!!!!! We do have an available corp size of 5300 users which can be segmented down into an alliance. If gold grinders become too large of an issue the CEO can just kick them and start simple vetting procedures to balance grinders and isk producers
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:26:00 -
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I'd nominate Chit Hoppened or one of his alts to oversee the next corp in our alliance.
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Jadu Wen
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:27:00 -
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Thank God for those 'read all' mail controls coming with 1.7. I'm up to 200 new mails in 5 days! The inner OCD in me is not happy.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:29:00 -
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Jadu Wen wrote:Thank God for those 'read all' mail controls coming with 1.7. I'm up to 200 new mails in 5 days! The inner OCD in me is not happy. Yeah, it make a notification for when someone applies, is accepted, leaves, changes the corp tax, or sends corp mail. It is a little burdensome at the moment.
Just think what it'll shoot up to when we have attack orders place on our districts.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:39:00 -
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Jadu Wen wrote:MySpaceTom wrote:Jadek Menaheim wrote:Headline: "Free to Play Game Taken Down by Wallet."
Plus if that becomes the case, I will simply start another corp and run the corps concurrently as a growing alliance. If anything this model may evolve into a virus that peaks in relationship to the volume of gold grinders. People really can't break this idea. Yes, XER is chaos incarnate!!!!! We do have an available corp size of 5300 users which can be segmented down into an alliance. If gold grinders become too large of an issue the CEO can just kick them and start simple vetting procedures to balance grinders and isk producers An alliance filtered from members within the group may be a useful idea. Filter the producers to their own group while the takers have a piece of their own corp organized by the same open access principals.
I'd certainly relegate AFG alt to that latter alliance corp.
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Jadu Wen
Xer Cloud Consortium
159
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:41:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:An alliance filtered from members within the group may be a useful idea. Filter the producers to their own group while the takers have a piece of their own corp organized by the same open access principals. I'd certainly relegate AFG alt to that latter alliance corp. Haha, we're not kicking him....just moving him off to Siberia. I love it Jadek!
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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:41:00 -
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you people are all insane but this is brilliant, please don't stop, i really wanna see how long you guys can keep on going.
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MySpaceTom
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:44:00 -
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gbghg wrote:you people are all insane but this is brilliant, please don't stop, i really wanna see how long you guys can keep on going. I'm quite surprised something like this hasn't been done in Eve Online. How different is the tax system and corp wallet from Dust?
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
327
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:45:00 -
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gbghg wrote:you people are all insane but this is brilliant, please don't stop, i really wanna see how long you guys can keep on going. Only five days in...
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Demon Ronin
1176
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:49:00 -
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why does my head always hurt when I read or hear eve talk?
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Jadu Wen
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:53:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:gbghg wrote:you people are all insane but this is brilliant, please don't stop, i really wanna see how long you guys can keep on going. Only five days in... Hey Jadek, I've got an idea for that 'Siberia' corp, will message you on IRC.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:56:00 -
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HAHAHAhahahahaoahOAhHA! Jadu, that's damn brilliant. Yes, go and make that corporation. Wow...that title is too funny when you shorten it down.
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