DUST Search - [40 million isk per match] Xer Cloud Consortium Pays Ringers Better than Anyone!

MassiveNine wrote:

Jadek Menaheim wrote:

MassiveNine wrote:

Jadek Menaheim wrote:

MassiveNine wrote:

So I'm a bit confused, is this only for squads who want to ring? What if I was picked up solo, how does that work?

If you don't have a friend or another Dust game open on another screen you stand not to make any isk as a ringer in our PC battles. Plus you have to win the game to claim your money. Simple as that.

That's kind of dumb. Makes it much more of a hassle. I understand the part of winning, I'm quite used to it. Everyone knows no win = no pay but if I ring alone there's no reason a director in your corp couldn't keep records of who ringed in what match and pay accordingly, and if you plan to keep this going it would probably be a good idea to set up a base number is pay per ring and then have a formula to pay according to performance. Also, why couldn't I just apply an alt to the corp and you transfer the funds to the alt afterwards if you were still worried?

Do you not realize that all members in this corp are director; will and forever always be the case. With that comes a certain set of protocols, such as we can not guarantee pay for ringers. However, you may still run as a ringer with other corps in our PC battles and stand to clean out the house of their winnings.

So then have an alt join, don't give him director rights, boom easy as that. It's illogical to have a ring setup for only squads. You're more than likely going to find single ringers than whole squads from a corp, you need to have something set up that way.

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Mikey Ducati Xer Cloud Consortium 31	Posted - 2013.11.12 20:59:00 - [31] - Quote My CEO and my "in the spirit" CEO, If you guys start that filtered corp, I want in on that as well. I will happily create an alt to support that cause. I am a capable mercenary that you would need to add to the building blocks. But let not my words be your guide. Lets us fire rifles together and you will see my worth Regards
Phantom Eins Xer Cloud Consortium 4	Posted - 2013.11.12 21:08:00 - [32] - Quote gbghg wrote: you people are all insane but this is brilliant, please don't stop, i really wanna see how long you guys can keep on going. we can keep it going forever if we choose. the corp is broke but makes a mill per squad per match.
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 329	Posted - 2013.11.12 21:22:00 - [33] - Quote Alright Ladies and Gentlemen, stay tuned for tonights development when Xer Cloud Consortium annouces the name of our new partnership filter corp. This corp is designed as a place for members we flag as not meeting a positive growth ratio of production verses theft. Warnings are placed by general community observances of the users actions on the corp wallet. Refresh spam of the wallet is one factor that may place a member in limbo. This means you afg alt. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1181	Posted - 2013.11.12 21:49:00 - [34] - Quote ..........
MassiveNine 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 468	Posted - 2013.11.12 21:52:00 - [35] - Quote So I'm a bit confused, is this only for squads who want to ring? What if I was picked up solo, how does that work? Official DUST514 LAV Mechanic
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 330	Posted - 2013.11.12 21:52:00 - [36] - Quote Surt gods end wrote: .......... Thanks for feeding the trolls with your topic bump [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 1453	Posted - 2013.11.12 21:52:00 - [37] - Quote Gambling is a tax on stupid people. Closed Beta Vet Reading the forums detracts from overall enjoyment of the game
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 330	Posted - 2013.11.12 21:54:00 - [38] - Quote MassiveNine wrote: So I'm a bit confused, is this only for squads who want to ring? What if I was picked up solo, how does that work? If you don't have a friend or another Dust game open on another screen you stand not to make any isk as a ringer in our PC battles. Plus you have to win the game to claim your money. Simple as that. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1181	Posted - 2013.11.12 21:55:00 - [39] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: Surt gods end wrote: .......... Thanks for feeding the trolls with your topic bumb
MassiveNine 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 468	Posted - 2013.11.12 21:57:00 - [40] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: MassiveNine wrote: So I'm a bit confused, is this only for squads who want to ring? What if I was picked up solo, how does that work? If you don't have a friend or another Dust game open on another screen you stand not to make any isk as a ringer in our PC battles. Plus you have to win the game to claim your money. Simple as that. That's kind of dumb. Makes it much more of a hassle. I understand the part of winning, I'm quite used to it. Everyone knows no win = no pay but if I ring alone there's no reason a director in your corp couldn't keep records of who ringed in what match and pay accordingly, and if you plan to keep this going it would probably be a good idea to set up a base number is pay per ring and then have a formula to pay according to performance. Also, why couldn't I just apply an alt to the corp and you transfer the funds to the alt afterwards if you were still worried? Official DUST514 LAV Mechanic

Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 331	Posted - 2013.11.12 21:58:00 - [41] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: Gambling is a tax on stupid people. There's always the one genius in that crowd making millions. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 1454	Posted - 2013.11.12 21:59:00 - [42] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: Gambling is a tax on stupid people. There's always the one genius in that crowd making millions. You're right, the Casino. Closed Beta Vet Reading the forums detracts from overall enjoyment of the game
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 1285	Posted - 2013.11.12 22:01:00 - [43] - Quote Show me the money...? (You'll be hearing from my AR scrub alt - SoonGäó) Cheeseburgers.
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 331	Posted - 2013.11.12 22:02:00 - [44] - Quote MassiveNine wrote: Jadek Menaheim wrote: MassiveNine wrote: So I'm a bit confused, is this only for squads who want to ring? What if I was picked up solo, how does that work? If you don't have a friend or another Dust game open on another screen you stand not to make any isk as a ringer in our PC battles. Plus you have to win the game to claim your money. Simple as that. That's kind of dumb. Makes it much more of a hassle. I understand the part of winning, I'm quite used to it. Everyone knows no win = no pay but if I ring alone there's no reason a director in your corp couldn't keep records of who ringed in what match and pay accordingly, and if you plan to keep this going it would probably be a good idea to set up a base number is pay per ring and then have a formula to pay according to performance. Also, why couldn't I just apply an alt to the corp and you transfer the funds to the alt afterwards if you were still worried? Do you not realize that all members in this corp are directors; will and forever always be the case. With that comes a certain set of protocols, such as we can not guarantee pay for ringers. However, you may still run as a ringer with other corps in our PC battles and stand to clean out the house of their winnings. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 331	Posted - 2013.11.12 22:03:00 - [45] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: Jadek Menaheim wrote: Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: Gambling is a tax on stupid people. There's always the one genius in that crowd making millions. You're right, the Casino. Remember, everybody in the corp is the 'house.' You can never beat the house. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
MassiveNine 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 468	Posted - 2013.11.12 22:05:00 - [46] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: MassiveNine wrote: Jadek Menaheim wrote: MassiveNine wrote: So I'm a bit confused, is this only for squads who want to ring? What if I was picked up solo, how does that work? If you don't have a friend or another Dust game open on another screen you stand not to make any isk as a ringer in our PC battles. Plus you have to win the game to claim your money. Simple as that. That's kind of dumb. Makes it much more of a hassle. I understand the part of winning, I'm quite used to it. Everyone knows no win = no pay but if I ring alone there's no reason a director in your corp couldn't keep records of who ringed in what match and pay accordingly, and if you plan to keep this going it would probably be a good idea to set up a base number is pay per ring and then have a formula to pay according to performance. Also, why couldn't I just apply an alt to the corp and you transfer the funds to the alt afterwards if you were still worried? Do you not realize that all members in this corp are director; will and forever always be the case. With that comes a certain set of protocols, such as we can not guarantee pay for ringers. However, you may still run as a ringer with other corps in our PC battles and stand to clean out the house of their winnings. So then have an alt join, don't give him director rights, boom easy as that. It's illogical to have a ring setup for only squads. You're more than likely going to find single ringers than whole squads from a corp, you need to have something set up that way. Official DUST514 LAV Mechanic
Mikey Ducati Xer Cloud Consortium 34	Posted - 2013.11.12 22:08:00 - [47] - Quote We will show you honor amongst thieves. Our society shall thrive. And the beauty of silence is the tranquility of its sound and the notion of understanding. My dear brothers knows that sound all too well.
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 332	Posted - 2013.11.12 22:10:00 - [48] - Quote MassiveNine wrote: Jadek Menaheim wrote: MassiveNine wrote: Jadek Menaheim wrote: MassiveNine wrote: So I'm a bit confused, is this only for squads who want to ring? What if I was picked up solo, how does that work? If you don't have a friend or another Dust game open on another screen you stand not to make any isk as a ringer in our PC battles. Plus you have to win the game to claim your money. Simple as that. That's kind of dumb. Makes it much more of a hassle. I understand the part of winning, I'm quite used to it. Everyone knows no win = no pay but if I ring alone there's no reason a director in your corp couldn't keep records of who ringed in what match and pay accordingly, and if you plan to keep this going it would probably be a good idea to set up a base number is pay per ring and then have a formula to pay according to performance. Also, why couldn't I just apply an alt to the corp and you transfer the funds to the alt afterwards if you were still worried? Do you not realize that all members in this corp are director; will and forever always be the case. With that comes a certain set of protocols, such as we can not guarantee pay for ringers. However, you may still run as a ringer with other corps in our PC battles and stand to clean out the house of their winnings. So then have an alt join, don't give him director rights, boom easy as that. It's illogical to have a ring setup for only squads. You're more than likely going to find single ringers than whole squads from a corp, you need to have something set up that way. Then you don't understand the purpose of this social experiment. -Tax Rate is 95% -All Players are Directors -Al Players have access to the Corp Wallet -(New) Players Flagged as Non-Contributive, are ejected from the corp and asked to join our partner corp. If you want to run as a single ringer, contact myself or one of the other members to Xer Could Consortium and we will contact you on availabiliites for upcoming PC battles. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadu Wen Xer Cloud Consortium 160	Posted - 2013.11.12 22:13:00 - [49] - Quote Yep, we hold a database of perspective players who have contacted us. It's no skin off our back if you don't want to throw your name into the ring. We have space for all the alts in the Dust 514 community. 5300 slots and counting.... GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûäGûæGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûÇGûÇGûÇ GûÆGûêGûÆGûêGûÆGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûÇGûäGûê GûÆGûêGûäGûäGûä GûÆGûêGûæGûæGûÇGûê ? SoonGäó
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 332	Posted - 2013.11.12 22:16:00 - [50] - Quote Yes sir, we have the space. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]

Mikey Ducati Xer Cloud Consortium 35	Posted - 2013.11.12 22:17:00 - [51] - Quote Brothers, if you will, please send me information through in game email.
MassiveNine 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 468	Posted - 2013.11.12 22:17:00 - [52] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: Then you don't understand the purpose of this social experiment. -Tax Rate is 95% -All Players are Directors -Al Players have access to the Corp Wallet -(New) Players Flagged as Non-Contributive, are ejected from the corp and asked to join our partner corp. If you want to run as a single ringer, contact myself or one of the other members to Xer Could Consortium and we will contact you on availabiliites for upcoming PC battles. It's still illogical. There should be no reason to have X amount of ISK set aside for this purpose. You claim to pay the best and then say that you can't guarantee payment to a solo ringer? I understand the idea behind it and if you really claim to make as much as you do then whats the problem? @ Jadu there was nothing said about hesitation to join the ring, but if you really want people interested there needs to be some kind of assurance of pay. Official DUST514 LAV Mechanic
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 332	Posted - 2013.11.12 22:23:00 - [53] - Quote MassiveNine wrote: Jadek Menaheim wrote: Then you don't understand the purpose of this social experiment. -Tax Rate is 95% -All Players are Directors -Al Players have access to the Corp Wallet -(New) Players Flagged as Non-Contributive, are ejected from the corp and asked to join our partner corp. If you want to run as a single ringer, contact myself or one of the other members to Xer Could Consortium and we will contact you on availabiliites for upcoming PC battles. It's still illogical. There should be no reason to have X amount of ISK set aside for this purpose. You claim to pay the best and then say that you can't guarantee payment to a solo ringer? I understand the idea behind it and if you really claim to make as much as you do then whats the problem? @ Jadu there was nothing said about hesitation to join the ring, but if you really want people interested there needs to be some kind of assurance of pay. Why do you keep saying this is illogical? We are just working outside of your personal box of ideals and traditional guidelines. If you really want to work with us you have to step into chaos my fellow merc. I'm not worried if I don't hear back from you. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 332	Posted - 2013.11.12 22:25:00 - [54] - Quote Mikey Ducati wrote: Brothers, if you will, please send me information through in game email. I am away from console for the next couple of hours. Will post updates later sir. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Chit Hoppened Xer Cloud Consortium 164	Posted - 2013.11.12 22:49:00 - [55] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: I'd nominate Chit Hoppened or one of his alts to oversee the next corp in our alliance. I have an alt? Since when did that happen? I do have a "retired" account that I could use for some madness. We can discuss that on our forums though. Bringing Heavy Metal to New Eden. Cannon Fever Representative
MassiveNine 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 468	Posted - 2013.11.12 23:32:00 - [56] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: MassiveNine wrote: Jadek Menaheim wrote: Then you don't understand the purpose of this social experiment. -Tax Rate is 95% -All Players are Directors -Al Players have access to the Corp Wallet -(New) Players Flagged as Non-Contributive, are ejected from the corp and asked to join our partner corp. If you want to run as a single ringer, contact myself or one of the other members to Xer Could Consortium and we will contact you on availabiliites for upcoming PC battles. It's still illogical. There should be no reason to have X amount of ISK set aside for this purpose. You claim to pay the best and then say that you can't guarantee payment to a solo ringer? I understand the idea behind it and if you really claim to make as much as you do then whats the problem? @ Jadu there was nothing said about hesitation to join the ring, but if you really want people interested there needs to be some kind of assurance of pay. Why do you keep saying this is illogical? We are just working outside of your personal box of ideals and traditional guidelines. If you really want to work with us you have to step into chaos my fellow merc. I'm not worried if I don't hear back from you. It's illogical because you haven't looked at all of the different variables. You want people to ring but expect them to work through this like it's a hurdles race. A lot of simplification could be done to ease the process so the only person staying within the "box" is you. i've never said it was a bad idea, I am saying it's a bad idea not to look at the whole picture. Go ahead and add me to the "list," i'm curious to see how this really works. Official DUST514 LAV Mechanic
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 334	Posted - 2013.11.13 02:53:00 - [57] - Quote MassiveNine wrote: It's illogical because you haven't looked at all of the different variables. You want people to ring but expect them to work through this like it's a hurdles race. A lot of simplification could be done to ease the process so the only person staying within the "box" is you. i've never said it was a bad idea, I am saying it's a bad idea not to look at the whole picture. Go ahead and add me to the "list," i'm curious to see how this really works. While I myself am not going to admit I've seen the whole picture, I have considered the valid points you have brought up. The concern with having me in the box is chalked down to a trust issue for some people. While yes, I would be willing to stay back and videotape the transfer process, some corps would rather handle the acquisition and transfer process themselves. As for payment of ringers I am not going to set a guaranteed rates and standards figure. I will however support the idea of corp members putting forward some kind of fighters fund to pay ringers from our pockets (if we are willing and able for that match), which I imagine is going to be somewhat low, especially considering you may lose the match regardless. The value of this fighters fund will be disclosed before the match (photos can be emailed if you request). The purpose of having the hurdles race to the cash is there to heighten the value you place on winning a match as a solo or squad ringer. The competitive system establishes an understanding regarding disparity of payment from a PC battle after taxes. Finally, thank you. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
ritslight umarn SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 172	Posted - 2013.11.13 08:02:00 - [58] - Quote why am I reading 3 guys talking about poop on the fourms for 3 pages long, you could of spoke in corp chat, this thread could of been 1 page long but nooo. lvl 5 random guy lvl 3 thumb wiggler Let the bacon commence!
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 347	Posted - 2013.11.13 18:02:00 - [59] - Quote MassiveNine wrote: It's still illogical. There should be no reason to have X amount of ISK set aside for this purpose. You claim to pay the best and then say that you can't guarantee payment to a solo ringer? I understand the idea behind it and if you really claim to make as much as you do then whats the problem? @ Jadu there was nothing said about hesitation to join the ring, but if you really want people interested there needs to be some kind of assurance of pay. I would like to hear what you feel is a fair amount of pay for play. Please think about this in the context that you are the merc who steals the 95%-100% tax pot from a PC battle. With such a high potential isk figure I would argue it would seem more fair to have a lower play payment to bring on your services. Yes, there is greater risk, but there is also greater reward. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 379	Posted - 2013.11.14 19:06:00 - [60] - Quote If I am the one in the box who fights to withdraw funds, it'll work like this. Payment is split between the highest WP earner in the match and the highest killer. However, I am only able to pay people with what goes into the wallet from taxes so that means if there are no players from XERCC in the PC battle, outside players do not receive a prize pot, only the normal winnings for a PC match. That is why I am asking ringers to join XERCC if they want to fuel a much greater pot. A normal PC match will put down approx. 40 to 45 million into the corp wallet with 95% tax if all players are from the same corp. If however, the one ringer is from outside of the corp and dominates the match with WP or Kills I will still award that player the prize for their merits. Again another player tied to those fighting may beat me to the withdraw button, thus nullifying the prize sent to the top WP and Kills earner. I am offering this system as a mean to bolster competitive meta gaming in Dust 514. [sig=hex.dec]4d7920313333372048617830727a2078706c6f747a20522058706f7364206259206c766c2035204330646562386b727a[/sig]



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