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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2013.11.12 19:34:00 -
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Cenex Langly wrote:Atiim wrote:The title is self explanatory.
With the amount of SCRs on the field I seem to be dying much faster
The suit is a Logistics M/1 Series, so if you have an anti-SCR fit then please share
-HAND There is absolutely nothing you can do against this. Those guns have bonus damage to Shields. Minmatar and Caldari tank with shields. When you completely remove the tank then you die once you hit armor. When those guns are doing 80-100 dmg per shot, you're pretty much Fu**ed!
Minmatar shield tank?
I must honestly be doing it wrong then, because my fit has less than 150 shields but 507 armor.
There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy, don't cry
You'll still be useful in my eyes
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
4915
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Posted - 2013.11.12 19:51:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Atiim wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Really? For a guy with an opinion on everything you can't figure out SCR do reduced damage on armor? I'm not idiotic, I know thier weakness is armor. I just want to survive the OHKO Charge shot from an Imperial Imperial charge shots do approximately 400 damage with charge shots assuming damage mods are used. If you are getting OHKO'd, you are either running militia gear or running a shield tank. Also, posting in stealth nerf SCR thread. Logistics M/1 Series Shields: 118HP Armor: 507HP I'm not shield tanking or using MLT gear.
Then you're not getting OHKO'd unless you're being headshotted, and even then possibly not.
Level 4 Forum Warrior
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
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Aisha Ctarl
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1704
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Posted - 2013.11.12 19:54:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Atiim wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Really? For a guy with an opinion on everything you can't figure out SCR do reduced damage on armor? I'm not idiotic, I know thier weakness is armor. I just want to survive the OHKO Charge shot from an Imperial Imperial charge shots do approximately 400 damage with charge shots assuming damage mods are used. If you are getting OHKO'd, you are either running militia gear or running a shield tank. Also, posting in stealth nerf SCR thread. Logistics M/1 Series Shields: 118HP Armor: 507HP I'm not shield tanking or using MLT gear.
Charged Imperial shot coupled with Complex damage mods to your face is likely the culprit of your OHK deaths or near OHK deaths.
My personal strategy for SCR use is to lead with a charge shot (aimed at the head) then follow up with a lightning fast volley center of mass. What usually happens is if I don't OHK the enemy with the charged shot, they're left with something like 20 armor, and the volley takes them out immediately thereafter.
The problem that arises is that if the charge shot doesn't OHK the enemy, they usually turn about trying to figure out what hit them but stay still in one place (ie, they pivot). Standing still is the absolute worst thing you can do against a SCR, if you want to survive, movement is the answer. I hate to admit it, but there is nothing that infuriates me more than hitting someone with a charged shot, but them knowing better and starting to strafe like a mofo leaving me going PEW PEW PEW PEW all over the place missing every shot AS THEY SCURRY THE F*** AWAY WITH ONLY 13 ARMOR.
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*Ahem* yes, movement is the answer.
Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given."
- The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming
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SoTarian PoParrazi
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
115
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:00:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Atiim wrote:SoTarian PoParrazi wrote:Really? For a guy with an opinion on everything you can't figure out SCR do reduced damage on armor? I'm not idiotic, I know thier weakness is armor. I just want to survive the OHKO Charge shot from an Imperial Imperial charge shots do approximately 400 damage with charge shots assuming damage mods are used. If you are getting OHKO'd, you are either running militia gear or running a shield tank. Also, posting in stealth nerf SCR thread. Logistics M/1 Series Shields: 118HP Armor: 507HP I'm not shield tanking or using MLT gear.
They're probably double tapping the charge shot to make it seem like it's just 1 shot - but your getting hit 2-3 times. more instantly. Weapon over-heats right after, though. |
Oswald Rehnquist
541
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:10:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:Not getting shot is the best way not to die.
I concur with this, actually the slow drain from Ar to ScR is helping me out because I can dodge scram shots and when facing off in cqc, trading ScP headhosts vs ScR shots is almost on equal footing
Below 28 dB
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles.
2860
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:15:00 -
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Stick with team. Imperials can only take on one guy at a time provided theyre not mlt nubs
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calvin b
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
909
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:18:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Joel II X wrote:They're weaker against armor. So my suggestion is running armor if you don't mind the speed loss.
I'm armor tanker to the max and they still melt my face off worse than the Plasma Rifle.
Spot on sir, We were running squad the other day and some one was running an advance ScR and had to be modded to no end. The ScR was doing insane amounts of damage and it didnt matter what you were running. The ScR is OP and I do not care what anyone says. It is F****** stupid they have a charge shot that depletes your shields in one shot and then they can hammer at your armor with impunity. The fact they have a scope allows for them to have better aim than an iron sight for example look at the LR how much better it is now it has a scope. The ScR in the right hands is far more deadly than an AR, that is why so many are using them. Those who lose to an AR are either bad at the weapon or the AR user is that much better.
Do not eat the yellow snow
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8213
The Neutral Zone
675
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:26:00 -
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Atiim wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:The Figure 8 What is this "Figure 8" of which you speak?
The lost art of spraying your AR because you can't keep your ADS on an opponent because you suck, hence the reason you play DUST in the first place. Anyone who does the strafe is an outdated scrub. Sure, it works against a Militia fit noob... when you are protostomping, but its a cheap tactic that only works for scrubs against scrubs. Letting aim assist do the work for you isn't a skill.
The strafing pattern doesn't work against anyone who isn't a noob. Even randoms patterns still leave you into ambush shots.
Its like playing Space Invaders from back in the day. The last alien would go back and forth on the screen really fast, all you had to do was lead it and shoot it and let it run right into your shot. Human's a creatures of pattern, so predicting the pattern the DUST Dancer will do is simple. But a good player doesn't get into head on gun fights if he can help it.
Best defense against an SCR (from the people who beat me) is Gallente Brick (because it's weak against armor) and if you get them to over heat, you have a 4-5 second window of them being unarmed to destroy them. Also, if you're behind cover against an SCR and there is more than 5m between you, don't bother coming out. He has a charged shot volley waiting for you. Take cover and come at him again from a different position, or simply leave the fight and give him one less kill to get.
No shame in picking your battles. You think the top players in this game got there by taking all comers on equal terms? |
Aisha Ctarl
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1706
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:30:00 -
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calvin b wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Joel II X wrote:They're weaker against armor. So my suggestion is running armor if you don't mind the speed loss.
I'm armor tanker to the max and they still melt my face off worse than the Plasma Rifle. Spot on sir, We were running squad the other day and some one was running an advance ScR and had to be modded to no end. The ScR was doing insane amounts of damage and it didnt matter what you were running. The ScR is OP and I do not care what anyone says. It is F****** stupid they have a charge shot that depletes your shields in one shot and then they can hammer at your armor with impunity. The fact they have a scope allows for them to have better aim than an iron sight for example look at the LR how much better it is now it has a scope. The ScR in the right hands is far more deadly than an AR, that is why so many are using them. Those who lose to an AR are either bad at the weapon or the AR user is that much better.
The fact that you'd even state that the SCR is OP shows me that you have a few screws loose in that brain of yours. The SCR overheats, the AR does not so a user will be PUNISHED if they try and spam a SCR.
The SCR also DOES NOT have a scope, it has an RDS aka a Red Dot SIGHT as in NO ZOOM. Before you spread misinformation on the weapon, get your facts straight.
I'm sorry if you got your ass handed to you by a SCR user, but find somewhere else to passively moan about how "OP" they are. Or (I've sooooooooooo been waiting to use this in context) ----> Get gud nub.
Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given."
- The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
1580
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:32:00 -
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Run a heavy suit with stacked armour plates and shields (I say why not, it's extra ehp) and then use a duvolle
"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
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8213
The Neutral Zone
677
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:37:00 -
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calvin b wrote:
Spot on sir, We were running squad the other day and some one was running an advance ScR and had to be modded to no end. The ScR was doing insane amounts of damage and it didnt matter what you were running. The ScR is OP and I do not care what anyone says. It is F****** stupid they have a charge shot that depletes your shields in one shot and then they can hammer at your armor with impunity. The fact they have a scope allows for them to have better aim than an iron sight for example look at the LR how much better it is now it has a scope. The ScR in the right hands is far more deadly than an AR, that is why so many are using them. Those who lose to an AR are either bad at the weapon or the AR user is that much better.
*ahem*! Mr. Thale's, does not have the right speak on the SCR! Shaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame, shame on you!
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Berserker007
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
366
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:57:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:The Figure 8
lol, and simply liked for the corp :D |
Woka II
Ultramarine Corp
4
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Posted - 2013.11.12 21:13:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:They're weaker against armor. So my suggestion is running armor if you don't mind the speed loss.
I run ADV assault SCR on my scout because it works more effectively than my Gek. I would go Shotty, but I prefer to keep my targets further away.
They're not, it's currently bugged and does the same damage to armor. Or atleast I heard |
Aisha Ctarl
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1708
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Posted - 2013.11.12 21:19:00 -
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Woka II wrote:Joel II X wrote:They're weaker against armor. So my suggestion is running armor if you don't mind the speed loss.
I run ADV assault SCR on my scout because it works more effectively than my Gek. I would go Shotty, but I prefer to keep my targets further away. They're not, it's currently bugged and does the same damage to armor. Or atleast I heard
People spreading lies in the hopes of getting the SCR nerfed so the AR can remain king. It is untrue, the SCR does reduced damage to armor.
For example I can take out 500HP of shields in around 3 shots or 1.5 shots if charged, but it takes about 7 - 8 shots to slog through 500HP of armor.
Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given."
- The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming
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8213
The Neutral Zone
678
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Posted - 2013.11.12 21:23:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:Woka II wrote:Joel II X wrote:They're weaker against armor. So my suggestion is running armor if you don't mind the speed loss.
I run ADV assault SCR on my scout because it works more effectively than my Gek. I would go Shotty, but I prefer to keep my targets further away. They're not, it's currently bugged and does the same damage to armor. Or atleast I heard People spreading lies in the hopes of getting the SCR nerfed so the AR can remain king. It is untrue, the SCR does reduced damage to armor. For example I can take out 500HP of shields in around 3 shots or 1.5 shots if charged, but it takes about 7 - 8 shots to slog through 500HP of armor.
Try 10 shots to carve through 500 armor, at <40m |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
4107
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Posted - 2013.11.12 21:27:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:Atiim, you're a funny guy, I'm gonna personally hunt you now with my Imperial. Ok  I guess I'll add you on the list of people who hunt me down with extreme prejudice in FW.
Lol you wont see me there anymore.....
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
893
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Posted - 2013.11.13 02:51:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Run a heavy suit with stacked armour plates and shields (I say why not, it's extra ehp) and then use a duvolle
I'm a logistics. The only one of 2 logistics in my entire corp at that (well the only 2 "triage" logistics).
And I don't like the idea of having to run a single role just to counter one weapon
There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy, don't cry
You'll still be useful in my eyes
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
893
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Posted - 2013.11.13 02:53:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:Woka II wrote:Joel II X wrote:They're weaker against armor. So my suggestion is running armor if you don't mind the speed loss.
I run ADV assault SCR on my scout because it works more effectively than my Gek. I would go Shotty, but I prefer to keep my targets further away. They're not, it's currently bugged and does the same damage to armor. Or atleast I heard People spreading lies in the hopes of getting the SCR nerfed so the AR can remain king. It is untrue, the SCR does reduced damage to armor. For example I can take out 500HP of shields in around 3 shots or 1.5 shots if charged, but it takes about 7 - 8 shots to slog through 500HP of armor.
Exactly, I believe armor has a base resistance of 10% against Lasers and Scrambler Rifles. Scrambler Pistols will just f*** up anything when in the right hands.
There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy, don't cry
You'll still be useful in my eyes
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
893
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Posted - 2013.11.13 03:00:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Atiim wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:Atiim, you're a funny guy, I'm gonna personally hunt you now with my Imperial. Ok I guess I'll add you on the list of people who hunt me down with extreme prejudice in FW. Lol you wont see me there anymore.....
You mean you won't hunt me down in FW?
I'm so relieved 
There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy, don't cry
You'll still be useful in my eyes
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Aisha Ctarl
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1712
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Posted - 2013.11.13 03:10:00 -
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Atiim wrote:True Adamance wrote:Atiim wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:Atiim, you're a funny guy, I'm gonna personally hunt you now with my Imperial. Ok I guess I'll add you on the list of people who hunt me down with extreme prejudice in FW. Lol you wont see me there anymore..... You mean you won't hunt me down in FW? I'm so relieved
I didn't write that lmao
Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given."
- The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming
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Meeko Fent
Xer Cloud Consortium
1507
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Posted - 2013.11.13 03:17:00 -
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Armor Tank.
That's how you beat a ScR.
For the State!
For Caldari FW join Caldari Hierarchy
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
896
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Posted - 2013.11.13 13:59:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:Armor Tank.
That's how you beat a ScR.
Really?
My fit has 507 armor. I already knew that. Do you have any other advice?
Check out my corp's new website here :D
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Bad Heal
PwNdCaKeSnRapLeSyrup
88
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Posted - 2013.11.13 14:10:00 -
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You could play the PS4 in two days. Its a guaranteed way to never die by the ScR ever again.
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chase rowland
The Enclave Syndicate
Dark Taboo
65
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Posted - 2013.11.13 14:10:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Kasote Denzara wrote:Not getting shot is the best way not to die. Gee you don't say? I had absolutely no idea
lol, i love seeiing the hate come onto attims posts |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
897
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Posted - 2013.11.13 14:14:00 -
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chase rowland wrote:Atiim wrote:Kasote Denzara wrote:Not getting shot is the best way not to die. Gee you don't say? I had absolutely no idea lol, i love seeiing the hate come onto attims posts
Why? What did I ever say or do to people on the forums to deserve hate?
Check out my corp's new website here :D
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Sleepy Zan
Xer Cloud Consortium
2799
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Posted - 2013.11.13 14:48:00 -
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Skill into scr problem solved
Quick, no, hard... I got all your scopes here
... and for a limited time only you can get the 360 edition.
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Sleepy Zan
Xer Cloud Consortium
2799
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Posted - 2013.11.13 14:51:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Gunmouse wrote:Just wait for the nerf that is coming to them.  ROFL There is no nerf coming to them. No DEV or CPM has even come close to implying that it is. It's just a group of trolls running around.
You haven't been here that long have you.
Quick, no, hard... I got all your scopes here
... and for a limited time only you can get the 360 edition.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
903
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Posted - 2013.11.13 14:52:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:Skill into scr problem solved
Already have, along with every other light weapon in the game.
I only have lvl 1 in PLCs though.
And I shouldn't have to skill into one weapon to survive against it. Or should everyone carry Duvolles 
Check out my corp's new website here :D
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Sleepy Zan
Xer Cloud Consortium
2799
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Posted - 2013.11.13 14:56:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:Skill into scr problem solved Already have, along with every other light weapon in the game. I only have lvl 1 in PLCs though. And I shouldn't have to skill into one weapon to survive against it. Or should everyone carry Duvolles
not when there's the Imperial
Quick, no, hard... I got all your scopes here
... and for a limited time only you can get the 360 edition.
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Justicar Karnellia
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
126
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Posted - 2013.11.13 15:01:00 -
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Stan Dan wrote:Get close and keep moving. I run a cal logo with shield and armor tank. Usually I bob and weave enough to doge most shots, they still take my shields but I usually take them before they get my armor.
Yeah - this is my technique , I'm heavily stacked in shields, and usually if you're close, a bit of a strafe while hip firing will kill them first. Of course, this is a skill based counter. |
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